June 21, 2022 Council Ad-Hoc Subcommittee on Race, Equity and Inclusion

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[00:00:01] Member Ellen Kamei: All right, good afternoon, everyone. Um, during this declared state of emergency. This meeting will be conducted in accordance with California government code section 54953 E, as authorized by resolution of the city council. Please contact city. clerk at mountain view.gov to obtain a copy of the applicable resolution. All members of the council, ad hoc subcommittee on race equity and inclusion, will participate in this meeting by video conference with no physical meeting location. As noted on the meeting agenda, members of the public may provide oral public comments during the public comment period for an item by joining the Zoom webinar at mountain view.gov slash meeting or by phone by dialing 669-9009128 and entering webinar ID 815-7199-2365. All emails received by 3 p.m. today were forwarded to the subcommittee. And um, just before we get started. I just, uh, wanted to do a recognition of um, Juneteenth, which was yesterday. Um, the 19th. Um, I'd like to take a moment to um, talk about the Juneteenth as a day to commemorate the emancipation of enslaved black Americans in Texas on June 19, 1865. Over 2 years after President Abraham Lincoln issued the emancipation proclamation, declaring all enslaved persons free. Those who were freed from bondage celebrated with their long overdue emancipation on June 19th. In 2021, President Biden signed legislation, establishing Juneteenth as the newest federal holiday. As a day to reflect on both bondage and freedom, a remembrance of slavery and subjugation, and to celebrate the power and resilience of black Americans. Who have endured generation of oppression in the ongoing journey towards equal justice, equal dignity, equal rights, and equal opportunity in America. And I believe the city of Mountain View Library, also celebrated by a list of different offerings related to the holiday as well. And now I will call on the assistant city manager, Christina Gilmore, to proceed with roll call.

[00:02:31] Christina Gilmore: Remember Abigoga?

[00:02:32] Member Margaret Abe-Koga: Here.

[00:02:33] Christina Gilmore: Member liber?

[00:02:35] Member Sally Lieber: Sure.

[00:02:36] Christina Gilmore: Sure, come I.

[00:02:37] Member Ellen Kamei: Here. Alright, so we'll move on to item three, which are oral communications. This portion of the meeting is reserved for persons wishing to address the subcommittee on any matter, not on the agenda. Speakers are allowed to speak on any topic for up to 3 minutes during this section. State law prohibits the subcommittee from acting on nonagenda items. But any member of the public on the line like to provide public comment on any item that is not on the agenda. If so, please click the raise hand button in Zoom or press star 9 on your phone. And we'll have our assistant city manager display a timer on the screen. So

[00:03:20] Member Ellen Kamei: we don't, oh here we go. Okay. So our 1st speaker is Bruce England. Hey, Bruce.

[00:03:29] Bruce England: Hi, thank you. Um, yeah, I had a conversation with Ellen earlier, so this won't be news to her, but um, I'm working with an intern at the Silicon Valley Bicycle Coalition on equity and active transportation issues. And some things that we would like to explore with Mountain View have to do with equity for particular age groups. So in particular youth and seniors. So for youth, in particular on the safe routes to school program. There's a lot going on through public works on that, but it could be stronger, and we'd like to explore ways to beef that up and collaborate across the city and through community organizations and so on. And with seniors, uh, sometimes people will stop riding bikes and being active for a variety of reasons, and there might be ways that the city can help to encourage and support seniors and either getting back on bikes back on their feet or even exploring options that they hadn't attempted earlier in life. So this is an FYI, just letting you know we're working on this. Thank you.

[00:04:34] Member Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. Other people wishing to provide public comment? I think you'll still need to raise

[00:04:44] Member Ellen Kamei: your hand for us. I think. So I'm not seeing any hands, um, but I know some folks had wanted to do a presentation, I think. And this is the time to do so. Here we go. All right. Uh, Miriam Connor.

[00:05:09] Miriam Connor: Hi, sorry. I just wanted to clarify, I think we felt the presentation was relevant to item 5.one. Um, but if we should do it now. We can do that.

[00:05:20] Member Ellen Kamei: So my understanding was that there was um, public comment. And so, um, That that it was organized for item number 3 since it's non-agendized. But if you like, yeah, but because you had a presentation, but if you want to wait, you can, um, mine, that was just my understanding from city staff that you wanted to speak now. So.

[00:05:45] Miriam Connor: Okay, I think we're on it. It's, I'm not giving the presentation. So. Okay, okay. So then someone should raise their hand, someone else should get their hand raised then. Sorry about that.

[00:05:54] Member Ellen Kamei: No, no worries. Thank you. appreciate it. Yeah. Okay. All right. Thank you. All right. And appreciate everyone working with us. I know this is happening all in real time. Our next speaker is Alex Yunez.

[00:06:12] Alex Yunez: Hi, yep. Um, nice to see everyone. Just wanted to confirm that, yeah, the presentation is for that other item, so are we, am I good to wait for that?

[00:06:22] Member Ellen Kamei: So I will defer to city staff whom I think that you are communicating with my. Sure.

[00:06:30] Christina Gilmore: So, um, Cher, can I, I was, I was led to believe that it was for item 3 for public comment, but I will defer to the chair if you would like the item word now, or if the item can be heard under 5.one. Okay.

[00:06:44] Member Ellen Kamei: Well, it seems like folks think that it's for item five. So we will move on from oral communications. Is that right, Alex? You want it for five? Um,

[00:06:54] Alex Yunez: yep, thank you so much, Chuck. Okay

[00:07:00] Member Ellen Kamei: All right, so seeing other hands, I'd like to close oral communications and move on to item four, which is our minute's approval. The minutes for November 19th, 2020, meeting have been delivered to subcommittee members and copies posted on the city hall bulletin board. If there are no corrections or editions, emotion is in order to approve these minutes. We also have the minutes for the April 22nd, 2021 meeting that have been delivered to subcommittee members and copies posted on the city hall bulletin board, which we'd also need a motion. to approve these minutes. Council member Abby Koga.

[00:07:37] Member Margaret Abe-Koga: I think you'd like to go ahead and make a motion to approve the consent items. Great, thank you.

[00:07:46] Member Ellen Kamei: Great. So we have a motion from council member Abbe Koga for minutes approval, council member Leaper.

[00:07:52] Member Sally Lieber: Uh, I'll 2nd the motion, but I'll be abstaining on the minutes, uh, because I was not on the committee at that time and was not present either. Great.

[00:08:03] Member Ellen Kamei: Got it. Thank you so much. Appreciate the 2nd. So we'll turn it over. Um, to Ms. Gilmore for the roll call vote.

[00:08:14] Christina Gilmore: Remember Abikoga?

[00:08:16] Member Margaret Abe-Koga: I.

[00:08:17] Christina Gilmore: Member Leaver?

[00:08:19] Member Sally Lieber: Abstain.

[00:08:21] Christina Gilmore: Chair commit.

[00:08:23] Member Ellen Kamei: Yes. Great. So we'll move on to motion carries at 2 with one abstention. So we'll move on to item 5, which is our discussion and action items. Our 1st item is 5.one. An update and discussion of the city's race, equity and inclusion action plan. This item includes an update on the city's race, equity, and inclusion action plan. Subcommittees, members can ask questions that may have. They may have following the presentation. And the public comment period will follow the conclusion of the committee member questions related to the staff presentation. So I'll turn it back over to assistant city manager Gilmore to provide the update.

[00:09:13] Christina Gilmore: Thank you, chair. May. Good evening. My name is Christina Gilmore. I am the assistant to the city manager. The purpose of this item is to provide the REI subcommittee with an update on the implementation of the race equity and inclusion action plan over the past fiscal year. The RAI action plan was developed in 2020 with refocus areas of focus, policing practices, policies and accountability, celebration and recognition of community diversity, and review of city operations and policies. Stock previously presented a comprehensive update to the council REI subcommittee at its November 19th, 2020 meeting, and an update on related to city policy, incidents, and outreach related to hate crimes at the April 22nd, 2021 meeting. In addition, written reports have been provided to the city council as part of the annual budget process. The memorandum that is in your agenda packet includes a summary of 19 accomplishments that have been accomplished within this past fiscal year within the 3 areas of focus. We'll highlight a few of those accomplishments as follows. Um, the staff has presented the PCAB feedback at the January 25th, 2022 city council meeting with recommendations to improve the SRR program and document and support the purpose and best practices of the program. Staff receive council direction to develop and review documents, drafts of these documents with the school districts and other key stakeholders. The goal is to execute the MOUs and bring the procedure manual to the peace app in the fall. The Mountain View Police Department also completed, it's a project with the PhD resource fellow to analyze traffic stop analysis. The Chinese language to the leadership academy was held for the 1st time the spring. In April 22, the academy launched with 18 Mandarin speaking Mountain View residents who participated in a free 7 week program to expand their engagement and their understanding of local government and city services. A graduation ceremony was held earlier this month on June 9th for the Academy of Participants. The Human Relations Commission will hold 2 events related to race and equity. Tomorrow, June 22nd. The HRC will host a community dialogue event titled Recovering Connection, bridging bridging the gaps between us, with candidly speaking, to promote connection and healing across racial groups in Mountain View. On July 26th, the HRC and partnership with the Mountain View Historical Association, um, will be developing uh, is developing a stability roundtable, community event, title, understanding the history of housing and mountain view, stories of racism, anti-discrimination, and movement towards inclusion. The event will focus on historical issues related to housing and race and include an oral storytelling project featuring community members who have experienced housing discrimination or work to address discrimination in housing in mountain view. As part of its fiscal year 2223 work plan, the HRC will propose a continuation of events in support of race equity and inclusion, including bystander intervention training, housing, insecurity, storytelling, and mental health awareness storytelling, as well as other in-person opportunities for connection. This workplan item will go to the city council in September for their review and approval. And finally, the city has incorporated the use of a budget equity lens into the annual budget development process. Some highlights of upcoming fiscal year 2223 activities include the development of a language access policy to identify and meet community needs for translation and interpretation services to help mountain view diverse residents access information about city programs and services and participate in city meetings, events, and input opportunities. Census demographic analysis, staff will be working to enhance the city's use of census demographic information from census 2020 to support the use of racial equity analysis in the development of city programs and policies, applications for grant funding, and the implementation of the city's REI action plan. And finally, historic Chinatown signage. Staff is working on finalizing the historic Chinatown signage that will commemorate the historic Chinatown along the Castro downtown area. This concludes staff's presentation and we are available to answer any questions. Thank you.

[00:14:25] Member Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you so much. Do committee members have questions for staff? Council member Abby Koda.

[00:14:33] Member Margaret Abe-Koga: Thank you, Chair, and thank you, staff for, um, the presentation and all the work that you put into getting quite a few accomplishments, um, done in the last a year. Um, I was really pleased to, um, attend, um, the Chinese language leadership academy, um, the, um, very impressed by the, the group. Um, and I, I believe I, I read that the Spanish language academy is, um, planning to start up again. Um, I guess ongoing. You know, I would like to see these become ongoing programs. Um, and so wondering, um, like, what do we need to do anything at the council level to, um, make these, uh, programs, solidify the programs to make them ongoing. Um, If you can provide some guidance, that'd be great. Thank you.

[00:15:36] Audrey Seymour Ramberg: I'm happy to respond to that question. Thank you, council member Abby Koga. Um, staff's intention is to have both um, Chinese and Spanish language academies ongoing and did, um, uh, include in the budget, some modest increase in our hourly um, staffing in order to, um, support that.

[00:15:58] Member Ellen Kamei: Great. And Mr. Amber, do you mind introducing yourself to our audience, just, thank you.

[00:16:05] Audrey Seymour Ramberg: My apologies, Audrey Seymour Ramberg, assistant city manager.

[00:16:10] Member Ellen Kamei: Great, thanks so much.

[00:16:11] Member Margaret Abe-Koga: Thank you. I had a couple more questions. Regarding the language access, um, initiative, uh, are we looking at, um, uh, written materials, website, uh, I guess do you have a sense of the scope of, um, what we're looking to provide, um, in different languages for the community.

[00:16:37] Audrey Seymour Ramberg: Thank you for your question. Yes, it would be looking at interpretation during meetings and which materials, um, and which platforms, including the website. Uh, to make materials more available in people's native language, looking at updated census data about the languages spoken in the home, um, looking at best practices in, um, communities, uh, um, near us and, um, Also looking at how we can support our staff across all the departments and really understanding how best to utilize our language services and also how best to, um, inform the community about the availability of these services. Uh, in order to um, maximize their access to information and participation.

[00:17:35] Member Margaret Abe-Koga: Great, thank you. Um, I guess my other, my other question was just looking ahead, um, you know, this was a ad hoc committee that we established in 2020. Um, and, um, I guess at some point, I, I, you know, I, I figured we would probably talk about, um, the future of this committee. Um, you know, I personally think there are many initiatives that we are continuing to work on and others that will come up. And so, um, I guess the question is, how do we, if we're interested, I personally am, um, bring this up to, I guess, to the, do we need to bring it up to the full council to, um, as to uh, whether we can make this a standing committee?

[00:18:27] Unknown Speaker: Uh, thank you, council member Abe Koga. So I would need to look at the city policy on how we create standing council committees. So I don't have an answer for that now, but that's certainly something that we can look into. And um, let you know further.

[00:18:47] Member Margaret Abe-Koga: Okay, great. Thank you. And then with that, if we can become a standing committee, I would assume that we would look at a work plan, putting a work plan together, an annual work plan together, and moving forward with future initiatives that, accurate.

[00:19:03] Unknown Speaker: Correct. Yes.

[00:19:09] Member Margaret Abe-Koga: Thank you.

[00:19:11] Member Ellen Kamei: Great. Thank you, council member Lieber.

[00:19:14] Member Sally Lieber: Thank you, chair. Uh, well, I want to also echo the kudos, um, the council member Abe Koga, uh, voiced about the leadership academy. So I think that those are, um, tremendously useful for the community. And I'm I'm always struck by the uh, valuable amount of information that goes out at the the neighborhood. Um, uh, meetings, and I'm wondering if we might occasionally consider, uh, doing kind of a newcomer briefing that would, um, where we would have translation, uh, available in in multiple languages, um, uh, for people who are brand new to the community and and might wonder, you know, what's going on in Mountain View. And that type of a thing, I think it would be very valuable, even if it were, uh, only once a year. So I'd like to, um, see us consider that with, uh, Robust, uh, language access as well to that. And then, um, on the historical front, I, uh, would like to see on a going forward basis, if there are opportunities to, uh, recognize, um, indigenous communities that have historically been in Mountain View. And, uh, maybe with some some signage or, um, some features of a park or something like that. And, um, I'd also like to, uh, have us consider at some point, um, an indigenous engagement policy. You know, that a number of public agencies in the area are formulating those now. And, um, I think it's a very helpful, uh, lens to bring to things and it's, um, an emerging area that's uh, becoming quite significant. And, um, Mountain View's history does include a very powerful, uh, presence of indigenous communities. Uh, and so I think it would be something that would, uh, really convey a, a significant community benefit, and uh, an educational opportunity for the families in, in Mountain View, and, and something that's uh, very interesting about our city's history.

[00:21:55] Member Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. All right. Um, well, I think, um, I just want to echo our thanks to staff. Um, that's why I, I wanted to call this meeting and I know that we haven't checked in together in a year and I thought there's a lot that's been going on and this would be a really great touch point. Really appreciate, Counselor, really, we were bringing up different ideas and Counselor Rabbi Khooa talking about the future of the subcommittee. I think that's kind of why we're reconvening and I think, um, we'll wait to hear back from staff on on next steps because I feel hesitant to add anything because we need to kind of discuss the the future of our of our ad hoc committee. Um, but I do want to echo the kudos in terms of, I think, the amount of engagement that we're seeing from our residents. Um, not only through, um, these specific programs, but I think in terms of how we've been, I think, more mindful in how we do our community outreach. So I'm really, um, grateful for for that. I think for the items that, um, Miss Gilmore, you mentioned, um, that are coming up. Um, the, you know, language access policy, the um, census demographic analysis and the historic Chinatown signage. Is there a time frame with which we could expect to hear back on these items or when you think we would reconvene on the update there? Um,

[00:23:24] Christina Gilmore: I don't have exact timelines. Um, I'd have to follow up with staff on that, but I think definitely within, um, the 1st half of the fiscal year we would hope to have, um, at least 2 or 3 of those items completed. Thank you. That's cool. Okay. I

[00:23:48] Unknown Speaker: think those are my my

[00:23:50] Member Ellen Kamei: questions and comments. So I'll turn it over to public comment. So, um, would any member of the public on the line like to provide comment on this item? If so, please click the raise hand button in Zoom or press Star 9 on your phone. We'll do 3 minutes and um, we'll display the timer on the screen. Our

[00:24:13] Unknown Speaker: speaker is Alex Nunez. Uh,

[00:24:18] Alex Yunez: thank you so much, uh, Cher Kumei, council member of a Koga, and Liber, um, for the opportunity to comment, and thank you to, uh, Ms. Gilmore for, uh, handling that discompopulated last minute, uh, presentation. Definitely really appreciate it. Also, thank you too. You know, city manager McCarthy, police chief Sheung, um, and Mr. Amberg. Definitely appreciate all of you. All right. Uh, so, uh, my comment uh, in particular. Um, number one, I'm very grateful and appreciative that, you know, we're circling back on this item. Um, as far as race equity and inclusion goes, um, I find the uh, subcommittee to be doing very important work. Um, and uh, in advance, just want to definitely share some things. Um, I did get a chance to look at the memo, um, around, uh, and and the section around policing, practices and and accountability. Um, and that last bullet point, um, I thought was a really positive development around, um, collaboration with some of our neighboring cities and congresswomen issues, um, you know, potential bridge towards, um, additional funding for alternative responses to mental health calls. Um, the reason why, uh, I'm commenting is because last December, um, I had the opportunity to observe an incident or, or a, you know, call where, um, there was a gentleman, uh, who in in that, uh, green box there, you can see. Um, you know, had, uh, some obvious issues in terms of his own, um, kind of mental standing at that point in time. In fact, um, you know, I had heard, um, if my memories serving me well, I'd actually heard him shouting out something to the effect of, you know, I don't have medication. Um, I'm, I don't have my pills. Um, and so, you know, he was kind of, uh, basically making a scene, um, and we could go back to the slide real quick, um, to the previous one. Yeah, I'll just kind of stay there. So, um, this had been going on for about, you know, 15 minutes and, you know, one thing that I observed around, um, the initial response was that, um, it felt like a perimeter kind of, um, got formed around the gentleman. Um, so, you know, instead of someone kind of like, you know, uh, approaching in, in, in a kind of gentle or, or kind of, you know, empathetic way. Um, it, it just, from my observation point, it kind of almost looked like someone being herded into a corner. Um, and as you can kind of see here, um, in the green boxes there. Um, there was clear kind of like, you know, people raising their hands up, kind of like being like, no, stay away, kind of like, you know, oppositional posture. So I'm not speaking to like the intent, um, of of opposition, but the posture itself was very kind of like, um, distancing, remain away. And there was a very kind of like, uh, long extended period of time where this gentleman was basically being, not only kind of had a perimeter being formed around him, but also it was very clear that, you know, he was also not to engage with the people who had created this perimeter. And, um, I could see that it was creating more agitation in the individual, um, next live, please. Um, and so as an observer, um, you know, I'm watching the situation. Obviously, you know, there's, um, you know, a national track record, not necessarily a mountain view, but a national track record around, you know, uh, individuals, minorities, black men in particular with, um, you know, police encounters resulting in, in, you know, either injury or or unfortunately death. Um, as an observer. One of the things that really made the situation kind of feel like it was likelier to escalate them to de-escalate, um, was the very visible presence of firearms. Um, and, you know, obviously I think police have a certain kind of procedure and way of how they, you know, have to be able to respond to certain threats. And so I think it's natural for them to have their hands that they're ready to be able to respond to any threat. I understand that, but it really kind of as an observer made the situation feel more potentially explosive and escalatory than I felt was necessary for.

[00:28:26] Unknown Speaker: Excuse me, chair, that was 3 minutes.

[00:28:28] Alex Yunez: Okay. So yeah. Yep, no worries. Thank you. Okay,

[00:28:33] Member Ellen Kamei: great. Thank you. And I think the next person, um, to speak is Dr. Megan Fraley. Hi Dr. Fraley. So did you want to pick up on the?

[00:28:45] Dr. Megan Fraley: Yeah.

[00:28:46] Member Ellen Kamei: Okay. Yeah, so I'll just say hold on just a 2nd. The PowerPoint went down, so we'll we'll bring it back.

[00:28:55] Dr. Megan Fraley: I don't know if I need it.

[00:28:57] Member Ellen Kamei: Okay. Okay, go ahead. We'll start your time.

[00:29:00] Dr. Megan Fraley: Yeah. I mean, if you, actually, you could put I mean, you could either way, it's fine with me. Um, yeah, so in my day job, I actually do interact with the police on occasion when we have to make calls due to someone being a risk to themselves. Um, and I work with pretty severely mental clients with pretty severe mental health issues that can become very dysregulated. And part of my day-to-day job is actually de-escalating people. So one thing that was kind of interesting to see in this experience. Um, that was sort of the end of it. And To, to just be honest, my experience was watching people try to do my job and they were, I mean, as far as untrained professionals, I was, Um, They did better, like they, they were clearly well intentioned and doing their best, but we do go to school for, 35, 10 years to be able to learn how to de-escalate folks. And so while I could see they were, you know, in a lot of integrity, good people, good police officers doing their best. The whole setup just goes against everything that I know in terms of what works for de-escalation. If I could have snapped my fingers and just had everyone disappear. It would have been. I would believe in like 5 to 10 minutes. I could have talked to him and like we could have gotten everything settled down. And so I think it was just a very eye-opening experience for me that. Um, yeah, it's just asking people to do something that, a couple trainings and de-escalation, just that's not what a, This is the job of a therapist. It's basically putting people in the role of a therapist that are not therapist. So unless police officers also start going to um, school for mental health. I think it's important that we have mental health professionals and they can be police officers, like whatever that is, but actually have police off, um, mental health professionals is the 1st line. Um, when someone, he was yelling, I'm manic and I need my medication, what I think he really needed in that moment with someone to help him de-escalate and get access to medication. And, um, we don't need guns with mental health professionals. Sometimes you might need backup with someone with a taser, just in case, but really, I think I just want to really say I support that you're seeking federal funding and working with Anna Eshu, and the sooner the better because this plagues us in the mental health field every single day that police are responding to calls where it just isn't the best setup. So we are really, I'm excited to see, and I know others are excited to see Mountain View partnering with neighboring cities to bring alternative responses to mental health calls for service in our district. We'd like to bring attention to also a recent study out of Stanford Institute for economic policy research, which found that just passing dispatching mental health professionals instead of police offers for nonviolent 911 calls led to 34% drop in reported crimes charged by the study and significantly lower cost. In addition to mental health crises, mental health specialists and paramedics responded to calls late to depression, poverty, homelessness, and substance abuse issues. So my ask, and I think our ask is just that the committee works to also expand mental health response in our area, and also the set of calls to things like homelessness and other issues. Thank you.

[00:32:04] Member Ellen Kamei: Thank you. Miriam Connor? Hi,

[00:32:11] Miriam Connor: this is Miriam Conner on behalf of the Mountain View coalition for place reform and accountability. So, um, thanks for giving me the opportunity to speak, and I echo the thanks from other commenters for, um, you know, competing the subcommittee and talking about all the stuff we're working on. So we're really glad to see the city continuing to commit to improving policing practices and policies and accountability. The formation of the public safety advisory board was a really important step to bring public engagement and accountability policing in Mountain View. And one thing I wanted to note is that for the work of PCAB to meet the goals it's set out by the REI action plan. Um, it's critical that the pizza I was taking an active role in making some substantive recommendations to counsel on the topics in their purview. So, um, in the in the memorandum associated with this item, it lists the peace app review of the MVPD budget as one of the efforts under this initiative, but this review was sort of, this is a presentation, but it didn't really result in action by peace app or recommendations for action to the council. Um, so my ask is just that the members on this subcommittee and and council in general, um, you know, when you have the chance to review the peace app work plan, make sure that it's clear where peace app should play that active role, where you would, you want to get those recommendations, um, versus just receiving a presentation, um, to make sure that, um, you know, action is taken on the items where we want action to be taken. Um, Yeah, that's my main comment, um, on behalf of BC. The other thing is that, um, We understand that there's going to be more information about Anna issues efforts to secure federal funding for these alternative responses to mental health calls for service, um, and we're just looking forward to hearing more about this and understanding what the city might be able to do with federal funding. Thanks so much.

[00:33:59] Member Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. Alright. Any others who would like to comment on item 5.one? All right, I am not seeing any hands. So I will bring it back. No, there were a few questions that came up and, um, not sure if, um, Staff would like to um, share any information. Perhaps, um, I think there were, um, on the federal funding component from congresswoman issues. there more information? Ms. Ramberg, go ahead.

[00:34:34] Audrey Seymour Ramberg: Um, thanks, chair, um, Kame, this, um, is something that Palo Alto and Mountain View and Los Altos are working together on to 1st comply with the application requirements to receive the funds, which is the stage we're in right now and have been even prior to that while those funds were kind of a little bit held in limbo with the budget process. talking about how they might be best utilized in our 3 communities, um, and also how they might, um, interrelate with the other efforts that are underway led by the county to develop different models of crisis response. Um, one of which is entirely community based and doesn't have any police involvement and that's known as trust, which is an acronym. Um, and I don't remember all the words that it stands for, but that's going to have its own mobile team based right here in North County with mental health and um, social work and health, um, as well as community folks with lived experience there to respond to, um, people who are in crisis, but not in the level of acute crisis that needs a higher level of intervention. So we're working closely with the county on that and how, um, and then they're also expanding their mobile crisis response team program to have a dedicated team in North County. And we're working to try to help them find a location for that so that it really is accessible to our community and the public safety advisory board has a subcommittee that's looking at how to raise awareness about that within our community, both of those models. And also, um, how to provide input to, um, all these different efforts, the, the earmark, what, what we choose to do with the earmark funding and these 2 um, county models of alternative response, which were trust in MCRT, so that they're really informed by what the, what we understand to be the community dynamics in Mountain View, and a really good connection into the network of people, um, in Mountain View, who could support the success of these efforts. And so, um, that work is underway both at the staff level. And with a subcommittee, um, uh, that's part of the current work plan for the public safety advisory board.

[00:37:02] Member Ellen Kamei: Great. Thank you. And appreciate you talking about the next steps with the county. That was going to be my follow-up question. I know, I think it was last year or the year before the committee had heard from county representatives about the mobile crisis response team, and I think, um, and I know PCEP has their, um, subcommittee as well. And I know for our next item, 5.2. We have county representatives, including our, um, A county supervisor, Otto Lee. If they're listening, I would encourage them too when we get to item 5.2 to feel free to add the information in terms of the county and the involvement in the partnership there. I would very much be interested in those next steps and perhaps would ask staff. Um, to brainstorm how best we can, um, keep the the public, um, informed about the, the opportunity with Congresswoman issue as well as the, how things would go with the, with the county. Council member lever.

[00:38:06] Member Sally Lieber: Thank you. Um, I have a question relative to the PowerPoint that we saw. And I'm I'm wondering when someone's experiencing a health crisis. Um, At what point would it, Trigger, Several police officers showing up with the firefighter paramedics. Go ahead Chief.

[00:38:35] Chief Chris Chong: Thank you. Chris Chong, please, chief. Thank you for that question. So, uh, typically a normal response for, um, if there's some sort of uh, potential for danger for the firefighters, our role there is to keep the firefighters safe, if it's more medical aid related. So, a standard response is to officers. Um, sometimes you may see one, there's also, um, we are hiring a lot of officers, so if they're paired up, uh, one trainee and an officer, you may have a situation where 2 units were sent, but you see 4 officers, which actually only count as 2 if that makes sense. So there's a lot of um, reasons and rationale for that. Um, but if it's more of a medical aid call, then our purpose is really to kind of stand back and let the firefighters do what they need to do and just kind of look out for their safety.

[00:39:22] Member Sally Lieber: And Do we have a written protocol, um, in terms of firefighter paramedics on, um, What services people are offered, say, a person says, I'm, uh, I'm out of my medication and I'm, I'm experiencing disturbances in my ability to operate. Um, Do we have a written protocol about how they're conveyed, say, to the county hospital? Or how they are offered services?

[00:40:03] Chief Chris Chong: Sure, I can't speak for the fire department per se on any of their protocols. I can tell you just from my experience being on those calls myself. unless the patient wants a transport to a local hospital. I think that's the continuity of care. However, if they, um, from what I've seen, if they decline medical treatment at that point, I've never seen a like a, uh, like a follow-up where they're, you know, helping them get medication or whatever.

[00:40:32] Member Sally Lieber: I'd be very interested in seeing what we have, um, through through fire. Um, in terms of the paramedics as far as, Like, uh, is the person offered. Uh, the services proactively. Um. Because I think if someone were having a heart attack, it would be, you know, do you want to go to the hospital, you know, or something like that, I'd like to see that, um, a mental health crisis is, uh, at least offered a, um, Uh, a health intervention. Um, for that. Uh, so I, I'd really like to see if we have, uh, a written protocol on that.

[00:41:28] Member Ellen Kamei: Great, thanks, council member Lieber. I know that we don't have our fire chief here to answer that question, but um, we'll let um, staff may follow up and um, uh, perhaps be able to update us um, at a later point. Does that work for you?

[00:41:47] Member Sally Lieber: Yes, it would be very sufficient. And if I might ask a follow-on question. I sorry. Um, I think it was last year. Uh, we were told that there would be staff with clinical experience, uh, inside the city organization. And so I've, I read, and I'm hearing about the, um, the collaboration within North County and, um, getting funding and all, and I, I'm thinking back to the point in time when we didn't have any firefighter paramedics. And it was, um, we had to, uh, really go into an overhire, um, standing to be able to have the staffing that we needed to transition to. And so I'm wondering, is it still the case that we're envisioning, um, having our, our own staffing or we're going to rely on staffing that's rotated. Uh, within several cities.

[00:43:00] Chief Chris Chong: May I may if I may answer that?

[00:43:04] Member Sally Lieber: Yes, of course, please.

[00:43:05] Chief Chris Chong: Sure, sure. So, um, I believe what you're referring to is uh, staff in the PD, did a presentation last year about the behavioral sciences unit. And what that is, is one of our community service officers, um, is actually on her own, um, obtained an LMFT, um, counseling degree, and at the time was working, um, with us, but also working for MCRT. So it was actually a match made in heaven because that gave us the ability to have a lot of communication back and forth with the county. Her role now in the 2nd year of the pilot program is to basically take any contacts that PD comes across that might be mental health related. She looks at those, um, and then really connects the dots and calls upon either social services or, um, uh, you know, whatever counseling or therapy type things, and really kind of gets them lined up, and even if need be, contacts the person who was in crisis, possibly the day before, but contacts them at a time where they're not in crisis and maybe more apt to receive services. Um, so we're still continually looking at that program that's separate from uh, the other programs that was mentioned, um, uh, uh, that we' looking at funding and things like that. Um, aside from that, PD is currently looking at even um, creating some extra space, should the North County MCRT, um, possibility come up. I was actually just down there, coincidentally, today, walking around and we have an area that we're kind of clearing out and if that opportunity comes up, we'd love to be, um, kind of ready and ready to go to pull the trigger on that to just kind of welcome that presence up in North County.

[00:44:41] Member Sally Lieber: Mm-hmm. I think that would be a very positive step, and I'm wondering if within the, uh, within the firefighter paramedic function is, um, is mental health crisis, something that, uh, staff is cross-trained on. And, uh, because I can envision many situations where it would just be, The police department interfacing with an individual versus fire, um, as well. So do we have that kind of cross training going on in fire?

[00:45:21] Member Ellen Kamei: So I, um, Kathleen reliever, I just want to welcome Chief, uh, Wan Diaz, our fire chief who was able to join. Um, so I know we've been having kind of some ongoing questions. And so, do you, do you perhaps maybe like to, um, ask that again for our chief who's who just joined? That'd be great. Thank you. Or give them a little bit of context. Because I'm thank you.

[00:45:43] Member Sally Lieber: Thank you for being here, Chief, and, um, uh, before you join, we saw a PowerPoint presentation about, uh, uh, community member that was experiencing a mental health crisis in the downtown. And where, um, Police were acting as as backup staffing to, uh, the firefighter paramedics and, um, trying to help this individual. And I'm just wondering, How are our paramedics cross trained in terms of mental health services?

[00:46:22] Chief Diaz: All firefighters, TMTs are paramedic. as part of our training. Mental health is a component that we receive when we attain the paramedic school and the paramedic classes. The permit focus is to, um, ensure that the situation does not escalate. To contact Santa Clara County, uh, mental health agency, and see if they have resources available to respond. Um, to uh, engage law enforcement officers and be guided by what they recommend maybe the best situation based on their experience. Typically on these type of calls, uh, they may have been prior contacts with the individual. Uh, law enforcement does keep track of their behavior in the past in different calls. So that would allow us to, um, either decide whether it's a situation that we need to engage deeper into the conversation. Or if it's a situation that is just not safe for the 1st responders and we have to allow other professionals to intervene. But in terms of protocols, Um, someone's mental health state, um, is a situation that we interact with. On a very regular basis. It's just very common in society today, uh, for us to arrive on the scene and be interacting with a person. Many times it's just someone that, uh, has not had, uh, the medication that we prescribe. Or perhaps there are, um, have a mental situation due to being, uh, under the influence of some type of substance. Um, but for, the, our approach is always to de-escalate the situation, and to provide any assistant that we can, including, and typically, we do transport. To the hospital where they, Taking the majority of they might take into Santa Clara County Valley medical where they have their mental health professionals, to deal with the situation at hand. So we, we make every effort to transport these patients, um, everyone gets treated equally, uh, in terms of whether they are an own house population or whether the situation is occurring in someone's house. Uh, We, mental health, uh, is, is an event that, uh, does raise some concerns for firefighter safety, um, 1st respond to safety. But we, our approach is always to provide the best level of care based on the situation at hand. Do you have like a specific question?

[00:48:46] Member Sally Lieber: Well, I'm wondering, um, how much formal training? Do the firefighter paramedics have?

[00:48:56] Chief Diaz: Firefighter paramedics? on mental health, firefighter paramedics, and EMT myself being an EMT. Part of our curriculum, part of our training, there's a, I don't remember if it was a week or 3 days or 5 days. But there was significant amount of, of training provided to us, and how to deal with this situation. Keep him in mind that. And at the scene of a mental health situation that I escalated where the person appears to be altered or if they were combative. We're very limited because we don't have any tools to provide other than restraining for transport. But there is a law that applies on all medical events. And that is, if someone is determined to be a danger to themselves, or to a danger to others. We will then make that we make that determination based on a series of questions. And we are obligated by law to then provide the protection that that person needs, which means is that they will be transported. Is what is called an implied consent. That the average person will want to be, if you're, if you know that you, if you don't know that you're altered, but it, but the average individual would want to be treated, if they knew that they were altered. The implying consent under the law allows us to, to transport that individual to the nearest hospital to have their medical situation. In this case, mental health. Be attended by a professional doctor in the emergency room. So yes, we we're trained. I can get back to you, staff can provide you a report on how many hours. For you to become a paramedic or to be an EMT, you have to have in uh, dealing with mental health. But the implied consent when someone is altered. And typically we ask him if their name, their location, the hour of the day, basic question like, who's the governor, who's the mayor, who's the president? If they're not able to answer those questions. That would tell us that they have an alter mental state, that requires that we then take the necessary actions to transport into a hospital. So we will place them on the gurney. And if for their safety and the safety of the paramedics in the ambulance, the firefighters, they get restrained, um, and and we, and we do have the restraining tools in the gurney to secure their hands and their feet and they get transported.

[00:51:16] Member Sally Lieber: Okay. That's, that's very helpful. And, and I would really like to know how many, how many hours of training it is. And if you've happened to come across any best practices, in terms of enhanced training. I would I would be very, very interested.

[00:51:36] Chief Diaz: I will provide that information.

[00:51:37] Member Sally Lieber: Thank you so much.

[00:51:39] Chief Diaz: My pleasure.

[00:51:40] Member Sally Lieber: Thank you.

[00:51:42] Member Ellen Kamei: Great. Any other follow-up questions? All right. Well, I wanna thank everyone, um, for, um, the presentation as well as joining us for the follow-up questions. Um, so we'll move on to item 5.2. Thank you. Thank you, Chiefs. Um, item 5.2 is an update on Santa Clara County's anti-racism community outreach, an education campaign, and hate prevention and inclusion task force. This item includes an update on Santa Clara County's anti-racism, community outreach, and education campaign, and an update on the Santa Clara County hate prevention, and inclusion task force. Subcommittee members will ask any questions they may have following the presentation. And the public comment period will follow the conclusion of the committee member questions related to the staff presentation. So I think 1st up is Santa Clara County board supervisor Otto Lee. Hi, Supervisor Lee. Good to see you. Thank you for your patience.

[00:52:44] Otto Lee: Good evening, good evening. Council member. Uh, Kimi. Uh, certainly an honor to be speaking with uh, the board uh, tonight, um, with the council and then this group, uh, and thanks for having me uh, here. My name is Otto Lee. I currently serve as the district 3 county supervisor here in Santa Clara County. It's a great pleasure to join everybody here tonight. Uh, to talk about what we've been learning and working on over the county's hate prevention and inclusion task force. Well, HPITF. But before I dive into that, I want to also provide a both context of how I, uh, join this committee to highlight the points of this work. My involvement in addressing hate instance came by way of introducing a series of board referrals last year to shine a spotlight on the anti-Asian violence and hate rhetoric county has been reckoning. But since last year, And racial bias and misinformation has always existed, and but it was a consequence of the COVID-19 pandemic, these issues have only been magnified and resulted in so many of these, uh, bigotry and violence that we've seen, so oftentimes in the news, uh, the county, HPITF, is a special joint committee. That the county is in cleric formulated with the city of San Jose, and other important stakeholders that meets every other month. As a member of the committee, we have heard from stakeholders throughout the region and beyond to inform about our work. Through the task force, we have established a mini grant program to provide resources to community-based organizations, CBOs, and not stakeholders to raise awareness around the issue of the hate related violences. Now, San Jose State University. The Research Foundation also has conducted a hedance and study. And gave us the report a couple months back and provided the findings recommendations. This report has guided some of the actionable steps that we've taken this county to address hate prevention. There's a few steps in particular that want to just highlight in particular. Uh, the 1st one has to do with the ghost guns ordinance. So based on report from the San Jose University Research Foundation, they referenced a report that the JCat, the joint counterterrorism assessment team, published, knowing that they're untraceable with nature of ghost guns, makes them very appealing to a lot of these extremist scripts. JCAT is the cold, uh, uh, collaboration of the federal law enforcement and the intelligence agencies, including our FBI local here. Uh, as this sounds, they state university report highlighted. Ghost guns have been used in mass shootings and attacks by extremists in California, including in 2013 the mass shooting in Santa Monica. And then 2017 mass shooting in Tahama County that killed 5 people. So, uh, back in March 22, uh, supervisor Chavez and myself introduced referral, uh, uh, at the county to call for the county council to work with a district attorney, to develop an owners that would prohibit the possession. Manufacturing, an assembly of a ghost member, county jurisdiction. And um, in May, we are uh, getting absence May, we received report back, and we're working on passing this ordinance, and some of you have known, uh, city of San Jose has also adopted something somewhere as well. Another action that the HPITF has done. The statewide level is relating to support of the AB 1947. Um, which is uh, proposed by somebody member Phil Ting. Uh, back in 2018. The state auditor has found that the law enforcement has not adequately identified, reported, or responded to hate crimes throughout the state of California. And because of that, assembly member, things bill, basically, is to call on each local law enforcement agency, to adopt a crime policy. So through the HPIT of interest to stakeholders within the task force, convene the working group to talk about resolution, and ultimately decided to recommend the HPITF, to approve the resolution and support of the AB 1947. And we have introduced that to uh, support that as a can glove as well along, with uh, supervisor Chavez. Um, The other issue that the report has also highlighted, uh, the county can do is to establish an office at the county level to prevent community hate. Uh, we did some research. Now, staff have learned that the constable in office dedicated to addressing hate crimes within the local government. Certainly is not new. Uh, for example, city of New York has launched the office of prevention of hate crimes in September 2019. And the jurisdiction has taken the holistic approach, around preventing hate crimes, by working with the city agencies, city organizations, and also district attorney hate crimes unit. Um, And even though this was considered less of a priority on this report, I certainly feel that is something that, as a county, we should be considered looking. So back in May, uh, so by the Chavez and myself, uh, formally introduced a referral, uh, to call on uh, us to look at establishing a county level office, or similar, at least a similar mechanism here. Uh, and we're hoping that uh, we'll be getting a report back soon from our administration on such a establishment. Um, early and we talk about the, um, mobile crisis bonds team. I'll be happy to talk a little bit more about what we're working on that as well on the Q and A, uh, section. Um, the the good news is we have such a team. The bad news that we are having some issues in terms of hiring. For example, the 20 positions that's opened up, only half is being filled right now. So there's still a huge shortage of individuals we need to hire. And then the last, uh, but not least which I want to talk about is the gun buyback program that we've done, uh, just this past month in Lopitas. Uh, the county uh, has not done one for quite a while, and since I got on board, it was one of the 1st things I wanted to push for, and uh, able to get some uh, small amount of funding, uh, $50,000 from the county along with some of the sources, including D's office, uh, tripping in to uh, come up to funding to, conduct this gun buyback program. Uh, we actually bought 415 weapon, including 7 ghost guns. Uh, over 14, at least 14 of the, uh, military style assault weapons, like the AR 15 bushmaster, which is the, uh, kind of favorite of all the mass shooters we saw in, uh, in Ubaldi and also in uh, New York, uh, upstate and many other places that used this, uh, and even one sort of shotgun, which I've never seen one. I've only seen them in video games, but actually seen one get turned in. So very excited to see those being uh, being uh, turned to us, so we're really happy to see that these type of programs, really easy to be continuing to be provided in the future. Um, I, I really do want to, to say that the, the, um, the, the, these type of ghost guns issues, uh, and then gun buyback is something that needs to happen far more often in different parts of the county. Uh, we didn't know Petas, so we certainly need one in other parts of county as well because let's say if you live in Euro. You're not going to spend 30 bucks on gas just to drop up the mopitas, turn your gun. So, I'm hoping to work with uh, our president uh, survives the Wassman to, hopefully we could put some together uh, before the end of the year as well, uh, to to cover that uh, southern part of our county. So these are some of the most significant things that we've done uh, through the work of this task force and happy to answer any questions uh, you might have today and certainly happy to be here.

[01:00:02] Member Ellen Kamei: Great. Thanks so much, Supervisor Lee. Do uh, committee members have any questions? Council member Abikoga.

[01:00:15] Member Margaret Abe-Koga: Thank you, Sharon. Thank you, supervisor, for joining us today and for um, your update. Um, I appreciate the initiatives that the county is working on it. I guess I'm trying to think about. Moving forward. How do we as cities, or how can we work together to, um, encourage, you know, all the cities, since each jurisdiction has to essentially do its own, um, adoption of these policies, um, or how we can work together to, to try to move that forward? So we do have a comprehensive, um, you know, coordinated, um, effort around. Thank you.

[01:00:55] Otto Lee: Thank you for the question, Margaret. Yeah, appreciate that. Yeah, exactly. And I think it is so important to know that, you know, there's no boundaries when it comes to hate. Uh, and and it's not even racial, right? I always tell people whether it's a racial race, uh, uh, uh, crime or incident against Asian, against the Jews, against the blacks, against the, uh, uh, uh, uh, Native Americans or Latinos. It's the same. It really is the same, hate against one, they can hate against all. So I think it's so important that we all work together from the county level and the 15 cities and towns that we have in our county to share best practices that we have adopted. Uh, and certainly, I think that's the reason why we hope that by establishing this off of the county level, we'll be able to share our best practices, knowledges, and, you know, any ordinances that we come up with, or you guys come up with. We certainly want to share, and there's no reason to reinvent the wheel. For example, regarding the ghost gun's owners, like say, San Jose's doing it, we're doing it at the county level too, and certainly makes a good, um, good template for all the other cities to, to, to copy and and emulate, and and spread the word. That is something they wanted to do, like what they do in New York when they started the office. We are following them too. So I think what we are doing here. is not just County, I think a lot of other countries, a lot of cities and counties around the country, also watch what we do as well. You know, Santa Clara County is the largest county in Northern California. And the Silicon Valley being here, we are very influential in so many ways. Uh, so I think it's, uh, it's really important that we are taking the lead and, and certainly, extreme amount be is when you are one of the most progressive, uh, leader on, on these issues as well. So I just want to thank you all for all your leadership and coming out these good ideas that we're working together.

[01:02:40] Member Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. Councilman reliever.

[01:02:44] Member Sally Lieber: Thank you, chair. Well, I'm very glad to see a county supervisor here and so thankful for the very sophisticated efforts of our county. Uh, I think from what I've seen in the community, the people who are most at risk are those who, um, maybe, uh, uh, experiencing unhoused status and, uh, relationship violence and, um, also maybe uh, undocumented. And um, then issues of um, mental health challenges or cognitive um, challenges. And I'm very glad that, uh, the county is working on each of those fronts and really looking at the, the role of firearms, in terms of, uh, the interaction, uh, between those, those elements. I think that's um, so much needed. Uh, over the past year, we've made a special effort to, uh, get engaged on legislation in the state capital. And so I would be especially interested, um, in, uh, on a going forward basis to, uh, maybe have our city manager's office hear from the county about what legislative efforts, uh, you are supporting so that we can kind of get that information and and work in concert with, uh, with the county, um, those kinds of objectives. Uh, uh, especially interest that I have is, um, also in terms of uh, juvenile justice. And, um, how to, uh, Serve the families that may have youth that are justice involved in terms of juvenile hall. And, um, sometimes in North County, we don't maybe have the exact same resources. are in other places in terms of the family justice centers. And et cetera. And, um, So I'd be very interested to, to hear from your office on what you can suggest to us in terms of policies so that we could make sure that we have, uh, those bases covered and, and, are working in the channels that we can to have, uh, have some coverage there.

[01:05:27] Otto Lee: Yes, thank you, uh, former assembly speaker for Tim. Um, and uh, I, I, 1st of all, yeah, thanks, yeah. I think it's so important to connect to make sure what we're doing and what Sacramento's doing, we're moving hand in hand. Like we talk about assembly member things, the legislation, for example, that's one of many, many that's happening. Um, going toward your your topic regarding the dresses involved, especially at the at the juvenile hall. Uh, our ranch. If you haven't been over there yet, Sally, I strongly recommend we'll schedule a tour for you over there. It's really an amazing place that they've established on Morgan Hill, uh, that has, uh, done great work. I mean, even throughout the pandemic, uh, and and we were able to, uh, through a lot of diversion programs that the population of them has certainly gone down through these different diversion programs we have. Um, the good news I would share with you is we are really getting down to ones and zeros when it comes to the girls. Um, and one thing I've been pushing very hard is trying to really find a complete diversion that would have 0 girls, uh, uh, being being held at the, uh, juvenile hall type, uh, uh, place, uh, because of the fact that, uh, statistics shows that 100% of these girls, uh, just involved turns out to be sexual assault victims. So they are really victims. And they need to be treated as such, and I think these are things that we're working on at the account level, understanding that. Um, In addition, uh, the, uh, issue of mental health is certainly, uh, huge, and we have, uh, you know, declared that the mental health being a crisis in our county a few months ago along with the supervisor, however. And we are really putting forth, uh, a lot more funding increasing the number of beds. Uh, that's starting with, you know, uh, detox bands, right? That we have is so, uh, Under, under, uh, funded that, you know, when people need to get treated, they need to get treated immediately. before they change their mind. If they have to wait 7 days to get the treatment. That doesn't make any sense. So those are the things that we're working on right now to increase funding immediately to make sure that we could get the, uh, uh, that. So we just passed our budget a couple days ago, uh, at the county level. So we're excited to see that. Uh, these are the programs that we're adopting very holistically, uh, and, and the, um, and of course, with the fundamental issues, we also have the issue of other type of diversions so that people who don't need to be going to jail or being booked. They get to go through what we call some type of a diversion means. So, for example, what it's called a um, soaping center, uh, that type of stuff. So we are, we are working hard on coming of these, uh, programs to avoid people to even get into the system to start with. I think that's what's important to celebrate those who have mental, um, uh, uh, behavior, health issues, those who have uh, uh, substance abuse issues and not turn them into uh, uh, a jail issue. It's, it's, it's kind of like the de facto way of things, the default way of getting things done, that's absolutely not effective, uh, and people on house on house is not a crime, right? Just, show conviction, itself, not crime. So there's no reason why they need to get into that whole system. So that's exactly what we're working on to uh, lower the, the, the number of folks, you know, turning to the wrong place. And uh, so thanks for the question.

[01:09:02] Member Ellen Kamei: Great. Thank you. I have, I have one question for you. Supervisor Lee. So you had the, the, the pleasure of listening to our item before item 5.one and listening, you know, I, I know that you, um, come from, from city council as well prior to being on the board. I mean, um, I think obviously the city of Mountain View is interested in innovative partnerships and we're doing our best with our, um, REI action plan. Are there, is there anything else that, you know, you were thinking of when you were listening to the presentation or maybe other things that you're seeing other, um, cities within your your district, um, You know, I'd be interested to hear.

[01:09:45] Otto Lee: True. I mean, I just want to say a few things about some of the plans that you guys have done, and I actually use as a model to show off to other cities. For example, is what you have done with the container housing unit project that you put together for the 100, uh, on healthful temporary housing, because that is one of those most innovative and yet necessary, uh, way to get folks house quickly. Uh, and and I'm always very uh, uh, proud to bring people over, uh, to show what city of Mountain View has been able to do and using that as example. Uh, not to shame anybody, but use it as a way to show that, you know, city can, can, can do this with other philanthropic groups and private friends and whatnot. And, and, and that's the type of, you know, uh, leadership that you guys are doing, and I'm really applauded, and I want to make sure that, uh, you know, these type of best practices get get, uh, you know, shared. Uh, we are, you know, trying to do the same thing over Palo Alto. We trying to do the same thing in certain parts of San Jose as well. Uh, and of course, with home key funding and all that, it's not so easy to get sometimes, like, we're working hard on trying to, to, um, replicate these, these, these stories. And then, you know, it's it's something that, uh, It takes a village. Uh, and, and, you know, it's something that, uh, would take, um, all of our efforts and fundings and whatnot to, to solve these very difficult, and there's no sort of bullet that we all know, right? This not like we build temporary housing or just a shelter. It was often unhealth problems. is not. You know, offering parking is part of it, right? And there's support of long-term housing. We still have to put somebody. So all these things were this conversion of, um, you know, motels to perm supportive housing, all those things and stuff that we work together. And they all go tie in in the county. One thing good about this county is we are a very progressive county to try to find these solutions working together. And I just want to thank you, um, personally, you know, all of you. Uh, on on Mountain View, especially, uh, on yourselves, Margaret and Sally, you guys are really the, the heart of the, of the city that, that helps me call this work and I just want to say that your, your partnership is crucial for us to make this a success. Yeah.

[01:11:55] Member Ellen Kamei: Great. Thank you so much. Any other questions from committee members for Supervisor Lee? All right. Thank you so much. We really appreciate it. Have a good night. Okay. So we'll move on to, um, our 2nd portion of 5.2, which is our, our update about the Santa Clara County hate prevention and inclusion task force. And I know we have many people joining us from the county. Thank you so much for being here and your patients. We have Marybelle Martinez, program manager, division of equity and social justice. Dr. Anna Lilia Garcia, Chief Equity and Inclusion Officer, Office of Equity Diversity and Belonging, and we have Dr. Rocio Luna, Deputy County Executive to provide an update. And I'm not sure who will start, but please feel free and go ahead. Go ahead, man. Will it

[01:12:59] Rocio Luna: be you, doctor? Okay. It's actually going to be, yes, Maribel will gives the overview, will be on standby for questions. Okay, perfect. Go ahead.

[01:13:09] Marybelle Martinez: Great. And hopefully you can see the slide deck. They're displayed. Perfect. Um, just want to give a brief background of some of the major events that led to where we are now in the work around uh, hate crimes, hate incidences and the prevention of them. Um, beginning with, uh, in 2016, um, with some community engagement, and then some, um, major events in our community, including the 2019, um, mass shooting at the Gilroy Garlic Festival, and then, um, all of the activities beginning in 2020, uh, that include both the, that include the pandemic, the uptick in hate crimes and the ongoing racialized tension with law enforcement across the country. Some of these points, um, in terms of the accomplishments, um, and the uh, current uh, legislation supervisor Lee has already uh, shared with you. But some of the board, um, referrals, um, that are with administration at this time and with the um, task force. Um, have to do with the documentation of contributions by Asian and Asian Americans. And that is something that's happening with Tennessee State University. Um, we've provided over $100,000 in mini grants, um, for organizations to provide training, education, and activities, uh, related to combating hate, uh, and of course, the ongoing work of the task force and the creation of the office of diversity, equity, and belonging, including, uh, the chief diversity and equity officer position. And just a quick recap, you do have the full report as an attachment to this item, but the recommendations, um, from the hate prevention inclusion task force, um, R 36 in these following areas. Um, that have to do anything from, um, Uh, addressing hate crimes and violence incited by hate speech to firearm accessibility, uh, to school-based programs and uh, focusing on different affinity groups and what might be most vulnerable for targets of hate crimes. Um, again, while we look at the division of equity and social justice. We have several offices and in the language access unit, that all work collaboratively to address the root causes of heat and also work toward a more equitable community, both through the policies and practices of the county, but also in the engagement in the community. And with that, I'll hand it over to my colleague, um, Dr. Andelia Garcia, who will speak a little bit more in depth about the work, um, being launched to the office of diversity, equity, and belonging.

[01:16:05] Dr. Anna Lilia Garcia: Thank you, Maribel. Good evening. My name is Annalilia Garcia. the chief equity and inclusion officer for the new Office of Diversity, Equity, and Belonging, part of the Division of Equity and Social Justice. Next slide. Want to take this moment to introduce you to the office and to the team. Uh, this office launched in January of this year. Um, there are 5 key positions in the office. Um, and these are the folks that make up the office. Next slide. The Office of Diversity, Equity and Belonging, um, has a vision to advance equitable strategies to improve outcomes for all. The goal of the office, specifically, is to strengthen county and departmental programs, services and policies, to advance equity and government. I just want to note that although I'm new to the position, I am not new to the county. I spent about 10 years at public health, leading the racial and health equity efforts with the public health department, and really taking lessons learned and national best practice from the government alliance and race and equity, to establish countywide infrastructure to advance equity in government. These are the 3 overarching objectives for the office in this very 1st year. The 1st is to establish the organizational and operational infrastructure, to advance the county's vision. The 2nd is to operationalize, to incorporate evidence-based principles of equity and belonging into all county policies, activities, and programs, and the 3rd is to cultivate partnerships. Um, across the county and and with cities, as well as with community-based organizations to advance equity. Next slide. Now you can click on all of these. Uh, this just gives you a flavor for the matrix of services that are, um, coming out of this office, what you can expect from from the team and I. We are here to provide technical assistance, training policy, practice, and procedural review, essentially establishing a solid infrastructure. Uh, to advance the work in government, uh, the county has adopted the government alliance on race and equity, institutional change approach, uh, the theory of change to organized conversations, to organize an infrastructure, normalize conversations about race, and to operationalize that. So that services the framework and informs the work that I am doing across the department, across the county with departments. Um, to establish the infrastructure. Next slide. And just what you can expect briefly, um, on the horizon for this new office, the 1st thing is uh, to establish a work plan, which was completed uh, last um, in April. Uh, the next component of this is to establish and launch a community of practice with departmental, um, racial equity leads across the county. We have a number of early adopters that have been doing this work, including public health for the last 5 years. So really building on local and national best practice to advance equity and government. Um, have launched the equity and learning and training program to normalize conversations about race and to really established a baseline understanding of shared urgency and what we are talking about. Uh, we established uh, establishing a contract with the government race and equity to move and advance the work. And this summer, we'll be developing, adopting a countywide budget equity tool, and we'll be operationalizing that in the next year. And to capture baseline data, we're going to be launching a countywide employee equity survey this fall that will inform a countywide equity strategic plan in 2023. Next line. Uh, this concludes our presentation and happy to answer any questions. Thank you.

[01:19:27] Member Ellen Kamei: Great. Thank you so much. Do committee members have questions? Okay. I, I have, I have one. Um, well, while we're waiting for our, our um, other committee members. So for the timeline that we just went through. Is there? So the there'll be report backs to the full board. Has there been any thought to, like, updating the 15 cities within the county or how you can share that information so that, like groups like ours, you know, or an ad hoc subcommittee, but our earlier conversation was maybe becoming a standing committee. Um, has there been thought on how you can can share that with, um, the different cities or, um, I'm not sure who wants to answer.

[01:20:21] Dr. Anna Lilia Garcia: My apologies, is that referencing the timeline I just shared for the office of the university? Equity in belong?

[01:20:26] Member Ellen Kamei: Okay. Yes, yes. Yes. there were there looked like there were various goals, different timelines. It looks like you're doing, I mean, just to say and acknowledge you're doing a lot of work. And I think one of the things that we're trying to do in this subcommittee is kind of seeing the different touch points with with the city and the county goals align and how we share that information, right? Because there can be redundancy or there can be other resources or, um, uh, you know, different expertises. And so want to share that information. And as I was seeing all of that and reading through the packet earlier, Um, you know, I thought, wouldn't it be great if there was a way for this to be communicated to the 15 cities within Santa Clara County. Um, you know, we can rely on our, on our supervisor. Um, but, you know, they're very busy too. So I just thought I'd ask. Do you want to answer that, Russia?

[01:21:21] Rocio Luna: Uh, I'm sure we've all thought about ways to sort of, um, you know, message. And of course, communication is always such a challenge because there's a lot of great work happening both at the city and county level. Um, and we'd have to really think about that. I know that for the 36 recommendations from the hate crimes, um, uh, prevention inclusion task force, we will be actually reaching out proactively to every city to see sort of how they see, um, each of the, uh, recommended, uh, recommendations sort of being integrated into, um, any city plan. So that's where they hate crimes, prevention, inclusion task force, but if we sort of, um, uh, think about broadly how we keep cities, um, in the know, we really would love to hear from you. And there's definitely the subcommittee here today. But as you know, every city is a little different. So any ideas you might have for us to sort of ensure that we are proactively communicating to all of our partners and city partners, especially as we build out each of the, um, each of the offices, which, of course, are anchored in, um, really working together to ensure that we, um, address both the current hate crimes wave that we're seeing, but also trying to work together to ensure that we, um, are working at building, uh, you know, a better place to live for all of our communities. by ensuring that we're addressing the root causes of hate and biases. And, you know, that it's going to take all of this to do this. We'd love to hear from you about your ideas for how to best communicate this information. Um, as we go pretty, pretty fast, but I can, I can tell you that for the 36 recommendations, we will be proactively reaching out to our cities.

[01:23:06] Member Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. I think even just that information right now is great for us and I think many cities have, um, you know, PIOs or, you know, chief communication officers now. And so that could be a really great way for maybe the county PIO to kind of connect with your office and share that information. I'm not sure. I'm, um, perhaps that's something the committee and, and our staff can, can get back to you offline on, um, that recommendation. Um, I want to turn to council member Abbe Koga. Um, go ahead.

[01:23:43] Member Margaret Abe-Koga: Thank you, Sharon. Thank you so much for coming and presenting to us. Um, along the same lines. Um, I was in particular interested. Um, I think you mentioned you're formulating a budget equity tool and um, we have um, now looking at our budget through an equity lens and just wondering, there might be some synergy there. So if it is possible to, you know, share information in that realm, that would be really fabulous, I think. Um, and then I was actually, um, uh, curious about the count. I think it's a county employee survey you're planning to do. Um, is that a, like a demographic type of survey or is it, um, or just, you know, the thoughts of employees around race equity. I was hoping he could elaborate a little bit more about that too.

[01:24:38] Dr. Anna Lilia Garcia: Most definitely. Thank you so much for the question. As I heard about your own budget equity tool. I was also, it's sparked my own interest. As we are looking at numerous examples from across the country, and there are a number of city examples, specifically from the city of San Antonio in particular. And also out of Portland and in Seattle as well. So, um, would love to talk more about that. The employee equity survey is adapted from the government alliance on race and equity. They have a national survey, um, that has been administered at the local state, um, has yet to be administered at the federal level. Um, and 42 questions. We are actually adapting that survey and will be administering 15 questions. And really focus on knowledge, attitudes, um, and just awareness, and will serve as a baseline survey to just get a better understanding and capture a wide net across the county. Of, um, staff's understanding on concepts of race and equity and belonging, uh, practices uh, within government and how we engage with community. It is meant to serve as as a baseline and one input into a broader environmental scam that will be conducted in 2023. But the survey itself has been created by the government alliance on race and equity and can definitely share information. About gear and can share information on the survey itself. Um, they have um, amazing information on their website that's easily accessible. So I'd be happy to provide you with the link. Thank you.

[01:26:07] Member Margaret Abe-Koga: Um, I don't know if I can, uh, ask the question to our staff now, chair. Is that okay? Um, because I, I, I've heard of Gar, um, Gar, where several of my regional boards, um, are members of Gar, and I'm just, I guess from our staff, wondering, um, is, is that something that we, uh, we could look at, I don't know the, like in terms of like the budget and how much it costs to be a member and all that, but is that something that we are looking at or could we look at, um, explore, um, being a part of the gear? program?

[01:26:45] Unknown Speaker: Uh, yes, council member, Abbe Koca. So staff has explored the GAR program. Uh, we have attended webinars and uh, looked into uh, what it means to join further. So I do think that this is something that, uh, we can put back on stash radar and see what sort of next steps we can take to uh, join and, and see what sort of uh, programs or benefits that uh, we can get out of it and even learning opportunities.

[01:27:16] Member Margaret Abe-Koga: Great. Thank you. Um, and then I don't know if we could go back to, um, supervisor, least, comments, but some of the, um, items he brought forward, um, like the AB 1947, um, Could we look at that? I don't know. I mean, maybe the chief can answer this, like, do we have a hate crime policy already, um, for our city?

[01:27:41] Chief Chris Chong: Um, not for the city, but the police department has one, as does the Santa Clara County Police Chiefs Association also has one that's kind of in concert, yes.

[01:27:50] Member Margaret Abe-Koga: Okay, so then, um, perhaps, yeah, perhaps we can look at AB 1947 and, um, it seems like it might, it falls along our, um, platform, our legislative platform, so we could look at signing on to that. Um, and then the ghost guns. I know council member, Libra brought up the other night, looking at gun safety initiatives, and I would like to ask if we can add that to the list. I don't know if we need to make formal emotions or how we want, how we want to advance these recommendations to the council, but, um, I would be interested in, in those 3 items, gear. 1947 and Ghost Guns. Thanks. Great.

[01:28:39] Member Ellen Kamei: Other questions from committee members. All right, I have another one. if possible. So, um, An apologies, I may have missed this, but, you know, one of the things, um, that I didn't hear was was trainings. So has your, um, or maybe sorry if I missed it. Can you kind of go into perhaps the training that you're doing both maybe internally as well as externally? For

[01:29:08] Dr. Garcia: the office of diversity, equity, and belonging. We're calling it the learning program, the learning and training program. Training is a critical input to the conversation, to normalizing conversations about race, equity, and belonging. Uh, and I've been doing trainings at the county for over 5 years now and the trainings, um, range from an introductory session on racial equity, structural racism 101, what it means to advance racial equity in government, application of racial equity tools. And in the last 5 months have been refining our modules. Uh, with departments that have been engaged with this work at the county, as our early adopters, and will actually be formalizing um, a training program this fall, uh, which really takes um, uh, cohorts through an experience and just really adapting the government alliance on race and equity model, something that public health went through back in 2016 through 2019. It's also a national best practice, really echoing that this goes beyond sending a group of staff to a training, but really looking at building the infrastructure within an organization. And includes a combination of training sessions, understanding the role of government, the history of government and race, and also the historical context of the work and um, why government. Um, uh, should be involved or can be involved, and how more particularly how government can be involved, what is the role of government. So we have a series of modules uh, that adapted and refined and will be launching formally this fall in training. The training is 20% of the equation, capacity building coaching. The how do we do the work, how we operationalize racial equity, but it means to operationalize a racial equity lens is really, really critical. The how to bridging concept to action is really important.

[01:30:59] Member Ellen Kamei: Yeah. I mean. Oh, city manager McCarthy. I have a follow-up question for you, Dr. Garcia, but I see other hands raising. So I'm gonna go to them and then I'll come back. Uh, city manager McCarthy, go ahead. Uh,

[01:31:12] City Manager Kimbra McCarthy: thank you, Cher Kamei. So I just wanted to thank county staff for being here and uh, outlining the recommendations and then also let you know that I think it would be really helpful for uh, the cities, the city managers, to know about the work you've done. I know that, you know, we have this committee in Mountain View, but I'm not really sure of the other 14 cities in the county and, uh, where they're at and some of those recommendations do involve law enforcement agencies. So I'm uh, currently the chair of our city managers group in our county about ready to transition out of that. But I would love, um, if you all would be able to attend one of our, um, monthly city managers, um, meetings that we have and come and talk about this and present the recommendations and findings if you're open to it. I think that would be a great way to share information with, um, all the, you know, other city managers in the county just so that we're all on the same page with, with the recommendations that are coming out of it.

[01:32:19] Member Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. Okay, I see my colleagues have their hands raised, but I'd like to finish my questions if that's okay. All right, cool. Um, so, I appreciate the further information about, I do agree that it's learnings and teachings and, um, it sounds like, um, I guess my, my question would be, is it something where you've, you've thought about training, like, government, uh, you know, council members or going into cities, um, because I think one of the things of interest, at least to me personally, but hopefully to the rest of the subcommittee, and then the entire council would be, you know, the, the training opportunities, we've talked about, um, prior in the subcommittee about like bystander intervention training. Um, we've talked about ally ship and trainings there. But I think, um, not all of us are are practitioners, like, um, All of you. And so I think that I know that our police department does, you know, unconscious bias training, you know, where all is at, various other trainings. Um, but we as electives, I don't know if there's been any thought about, um, that that would be great to hear if possible.

[01:33:35] Dr. Garcia: The strategy for the Office of Diversity, Equity, and Belonging, as we're thinking about strengthening the work that we do across the county is multi-prong. So it does include training, um, department, county staff at all levels. And also I've had the pleasure of working with um, a couple of offices, um, and have trained, uh, an entire office, for example, for one of our supervisors, um, putting them through similar trainings and whatnot. Um, it is an important strategy in in this work. And also working with communities, working with resident leaders, community-based organizations, grassroot organizations, that's something else that we also, while I was at public health, also did a lot of. So, um, It does require all of us, we all play a role in doing this work and normalizing at multiple levels with diverse stakeholders is a really key important aspect of this work. I did have the opportunity to present to all cities. Steve Preminger invited me. I think it was the summer of 2020, um, on the heels of of the murder of George Bloyd, the Black Lives Matter movement, uh, racism as a public health issue, the racial unrest, the anti-Asian hate of 2020 and beyond. And what precedes that, um, and the COVID inequities. I was invited to speak, uh, to all cities, uh, back then about Gare, about the work that public health was leading at that moment. And I know there was interest then. Uh, to have a conversation. Also want to lift up. There are other, um, The city of San Jose also has an office of racial equity. I know there are efforts across the county, and there is a regional collaboration of racial equity practitioners that meet on a regular basis. I know our office has been sitting with um, um, that group um, on a monthly basis. It's just served to be information sharing. It's nothing more than that at this moment. But I do welcome any ideas in terms of collaboration. Yeah,

[01:35:24] Member Ellen Kamei: thank you. I think the meeting you're talking about was probably the mayor's convening that used to happen on Saturdays, maybe. I don't remember it going out to all of us. I, I, I don't recall hearing about it, but, um, uh, very much appreciate that. And I think one of the other things that we talked about in our earlier, um, presentation was our Spanish language as well as our Mandarin leadership academies, and it would be great, I think, for them to know that, um, there's, you know, hate crimes task force that your office of belonging exists because we're having these leadership academies so that people know that they are welcome and belong in our, in our city, in our community. Um, so it would be great to integrate you all there as well. Council member Liber. Thank

[01:36:09] Member Sally Lieber: you, chair. Well, what? is really powerful about the, the approach of, of your office to me is the, the, the intersectional nature of it and recognizing the different factors that add up to individual and family strengths or, or lack, and and make people vulnerable to, um, various forces, be it racism or, or misogyny. Um, and this comes at a really opportune time for us as we're uh, going through our housing element, our general plan process. And, um, so I hope that we can really continue this collaboration. And um, talk a lot about what the individual cities can do. And the direction that we could help move cities in. You know, that there are pressures that are present in Santa Clara County that are not as present, almost any place else in terms of the cost of housing, the cost of transportation, um, certain environmental justice issues, and, uh, So I really do believe that if we can take a forward thinking approach here, that it will really set the mold for the rest of the country. So I'm very excited about what you have going. So thank you so much for being here. Great,

[01:37:40] Member Ellen Kamei: thank you. Council member Abi Koga. Thank

[01:37:43] Member Margaret Abe-Koga: you, chair. Sorry, I forgot to mention, um, I think you may have presented and I'm hoping that, um, we can have you act again, but I'm on the, um, executive committee of the cities association of Santa Clara County, which is made up of all 15 cities, and one of our, um, priorities is race equity. And so I believe he presented before. It would be great to have you back again to give us an update. And so, um, I will bring that up with the exec committee and see if we can invite you back to present to us. And it would be great. I would love to just, you know, take a few of these initiatives and see if we can move them forward at the regional level with all of the cities. Thank you.

[01:38:28] Unknown Speaker: Thank you. Happy to do so. Great, thank you. I

[01:38:32] Member Ellen Kamei: know, I have to think, I would think, thank you, Catherine Rakoga. I was like, I I, this is a party I was not invited to. Now I know where it was. Um, does anyone else have any other questions? All right, well, I want to, um, thank all of our county representatives for joining us tonight. Their patients in our making our way through our agenda. It was really robust, really interesting conversation, and I know you'll have follow up from us as individuals and us from the city as well. Uh, yes, Ms. Rambert. I'm sorry, that was an error. Oh, okay. I saw your hand go up. All right, well, thank you so much. Really looking forward to the potential partnerships and the further information and um, have a great night. Thank you so much. Thank you. Oh, I didn't take. Oh, I can take public comment. That's now my hand went up for that. Yes, thank you. Would any member of the public on the line like to provide comment on this item? If so, please click the raise handbun in Zoom or press star 9 on your phone. All right, we have a hand, so we'll pull up our 3 minute timer. And Hold on just a 2nd. Here we go. Miriam Connor. Hi,

[01:39:55] Miriam Connor: this is Miriam Connor again with the Mountain View coalition for police reform and accountability. So, as the subcommittee is considering issues of racism and hate in our county and our city. We'd like to draw attention to a recently published state audit, finding significant evidence of bias and extremism among officers in departments across California. The auditor found evidence in all 5 major departments covered by the report that there were officers with extremely racist, homophobic, transphobic sexist, or otherwise biased views that made them unfit for service. So as I'm saying this, I want to be clear that Mountain View was not included in this audit. My personal experience with MVPD officers through MVPDX. I haven't detected anything like these views, but I think this is an important and pervasive issue that has implications for every community in California. And we need to take it seriously. And so I'm hoping that this subcommittee and our public safety advisory board will consider investigating extremism in our community and enacting recommendations from the auditor locally. I think our ideal scenario is that taking action on the report in Mountain View further cements MVPDs, reputation, as a leader in professionalism and progressive policing, and, you know, we've taken action to systematically prevent problems in the future. Thank you. Thank you.

[01:41:15] Member Ellen Kamei: Alex Nunez? Hello,

[01:41:19] Alex Nuñez: um, thank you again, uh, Char Kamei, uh, and everyone else for the opportunity to comment. Um, I, I, I did want to uh, echo some of, um, the previous speaker's comments, um, Miriam, I believe. Um, and and just in terms of a little bit of kind of thinking around it. Um, this day audit that uh, Miriam referenced that I haven't had a chance to look at, but, you know, I have had seen, I have seen much, uh, other uh, research from organizations like the Brennan Center, which I think was referenced in, um, you know, one of the uh, reports in the agenda. For example, uh, basically reputable, um, sources indicating uh, that there is a active effort um, by white supremacist organizations, you know, racist organizations, far right, militants, et cetera, to form links, uh, to uh, and within law enforcement, uh, departments and officials. Um, and similarly to Miriam. My experience with MVPD, to be quite honest, has always been very +and I don't actually, you know, I would put, um, a large bet on any findings indicating that there is no, um, you know, like white supremacist links within Mountain View. Um, but at the same time, uh, if, you know, centers like this and and also the FBI actually, you know, which has made made it abundantly clear, our national, um, law enforcement, premier law enforcement organization is making abundantly clear, um, that these, you know, far right, uh, links between law enforcement, that these organizations are seeking to establish a foothold in law enforcement across the country. Um, if this is the case. If this is an active measure that these organizations are taking, then I do believe it would be best practice for our, um, you know, police departments across the nation, not just MVPD, to adopt similarly active measures to ensure that, uh, there are not individuals with these views, um, you know, making it onto our police department. Uh, and the reason why is because in terms of addressing hate crimes, um, you know, if we can trust as the public that hate crimes will be addressed, then it's important for us to trust that there are no, uh, you know, that the people were empowering to pursue those hate crimes and investigate them are not themselves, um, motivated by racial animus, um, against the groups that they are purportedly intending to be protecting. Um, so I I would encourage this as as just the best practice, as a precautionary, active measure, um, not as any kind of, uh, condemnation of of our MVPD. Um, and I will also say that I did appreciate, uh, uh, council uh, member Lieber's comment around housing. Um, you know, uh, there's a lot that's been said about housing, but, you know, it's it's abundantly clear that uh, homeless people are are much more likely to become victims of violent crime than to be, uh, perpetrators and when they're disproportionately minorities. Um, yeah, hate crime, um, surges. So thank you very much.

[01:44:21] Member Ellen Kamei: Great. Thank you. All right, I'm not seeing any other hands. So I'd like to close public comment and bring it back to the committee. We can move on to item number six, which is our subcommittee, staff comments, questions, and committee reports. Does anyone have anything to add for item number six? All right. I'm not seeing any and appreciate, um, I think we'll look to staff on, um, next steps and, um, the follow-up information, um, requests that that happened. Um, so I'll move on to item 7, which is our adjournment at 648 PM. Thank you, everyone. Appreciate it. Have a great night.