May 3, 2022 Council Transportation Committee

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Agenda

• 1. CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order at 6:32 p.m. by Chair Sally Lieber. (00:00:02)
• 2. ROLL CALL (00:01:31)
• 3. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC - None (00:01:47)
• 4. MINUTES APPROVAL (00:01:47)
• 4.1 Approve Meeting Minutes: M/S Kamei/Matichak - To approve the Council Transportation Committee meeting minutes of June 1, 2021. (00:01:47)
• 5. UNFINISHED BUSINESS - None (00:03:58)
• 6. NEW BUSINESS (00:03:58)
• 6.1 Safe Routes to School Program: Transportation Planner Ahmed provided a presentation on the Safe Routes to School (SRTS) program and updates. (00:03:58)
• 6.2 Vision Zero Action Plan/Local Road Safety Plan: Transportation Planner Ahmed presented information on the Vision Zero Action Plan and Local Road Safety Plan systemic safety analysis, potential countermeasures and potential prioritization criteria. (00:43:41)
• 7. COMMITTEE/STAFF ANNOUNCEMENTS, UPDATES, REQUESTS, AND COMMITTEE REPORTS (01:48:16)
• 7.1 Staff Comments: Public Works Director Cameron provided an update on the Residential Parking Permit Program's readiness for City Council and noted that Staff continues to monitor program feedback. (01:48:16)
• 7.2 Committee Comments - None (01:52:21)
• 8. ADJOURNMENT: The meeting was adjourned at 8:25 p.m. by Chair Sally Lieber. (01:52:21)

Transcript

1. CALL TO ORDER

[00:00:02] Chair Sally Lieber: Good evening, everyone, uh, and welcome to the Council Transportation Committee meeting of May 3rd, 2022. I'm going to read the usual announcement as required. This meeting will be conducted in accordance with California government code section 54953E is authorized by resolution of the city council. All members of the Council Transportation Committee are participating in this meeting by video conference with no physical meeting location. As noted on the meeting agenda. Members of the public may provide oral public comments during the public comment period for the item by signing in to mountain view.gov slash meeting. Or by phone, by dialing 669-900-9128. And entering webinar ID, 891-138-54017. Any emails that were received by 4.30 p.m. today were received directly by the council transportation committee members. Emails received after 4.30 p.m. will be entered into the record for the meeting. And all votes will be taken by roll call. Should we go on to the roll call now at this time?

2. ROLL CALL

[00:01:31] Public Works Director Cameron: Yes, thank you. I'm Don Cameron, public works director. I'll take the road call. Committee member Kamei.

[00:01:39] Member Ellen Kamei: Here,

[00:01:39] Public Works Director Cameron: committee member Mattachek,

[00:01:41] Member Lisa Matichak: here.

[00:01:42] Public Works Director Cameron: Chairperson labor.

[00:01:44] Chair Sally Lieber: Here.

[00:01:45] Public Works Director Cameron: All righty. We have full attendance.

4.1 Approve Meeting Minutes

[00:01:47] Chair Sally Lieber: Thank you. Great. Thank you. Well, go on now to oral communications. This portion of the meeting. Is reserved for persons wishing to address the committee on any matter that is not on tonight's agenda. Speakers are allowed to speak on any topic for up to 3 minutes during this section. State law prohibits the committee from acting on non-agenda items. Would any member of the public on the line like to provide comment on non-agenda items? If so, please click the raised hand button in Zoom or press star 9 on your phone and staff will display a timer on the screen. Okay I'm not seeing any, if I'm correct with that. Miss Cameron. Uh, so we'll go on now to uh, approval of the minutes. Uh, the minutes for the June 1st, 2021 meeting are presented for approval tonight. Are there any uh, corrections or comments on the minutes from the committee members? Right? Uh, we'll open it up for public comment. Does any member of the public have uh comment on the minutes? And I'm not seeing any. So we'll go on to a roll call vote on the minutes. We need a motion 1st, please. So sorry. Councilman Rick May.

[00:03:28] Member Ellen Kamei: I, I saw Councilmer Matachek's hand up 1st so I don't know. Councilmer Magic. it doesn't matter. Okay. Okay, I'll move approval of the minutes.

[00:03:38] Chair Sally Lieber: Thank you.

[00:03:39] Member Lisa Matichak: I'll 2nd it

[00:03:40] Chair Sally Lieber: Second.

[00:03:44] Public Works Director Cameron: Okay, roll call vote, uh, to approve the minutes of, um, June 1st, 2021. Committee member Kamei.

[00:03:53] Member Ellen Kamei: Yes.

[00:03:54] Public Works Director Cameron: Committee member Mattachek?

[00:03:56] Member Lisa Matichak: Yes.

[00:03:57] Public Works Director Cameron: Chairperson labor.

6.1 Safe Routes to School Program

[00:03:58] Chair Sally Lieber: Yes. Passes unanimously. Thank you. We'll go on to unfinished business of which we have none tonight and we'll move to our new business. Uh, item 6.one is the safe routes to school program. Uh, the staff, uh, presentation will be provided by Ms. Ahmed, uh, transportation planner.

[00:04:27] Transportation Planner Ahmed: Thank you. Sharing my screen and putting it on a presentation mode. Um, can everybody see my screen? Great. Um, so, hello committee, uh, members, I'm PRD Ahmed, transportation planner here with City of Mountain View, and today I'll be providing an update on safe as to school program and seeking your feedback on our current and future activities. For today's agenda, we'll cover safe for us to school programs background, our ongoing activities and recommended program approach, as well as the next steps. To give a little bit of overview of safe rest to school background. Uh, Saint Frost to School promotes walking and biking to school. To achieve this school, there are 4 components. 1st is education, which is achieved through teaching students about bicycle and pedestrian safety as well as traffic rules. Second is hosting encouragement events such as bike to school day or walk and roll events. Third is evaluation to make sure the program is achieving its goal, and for this engineering by conducting bike and walk, audits, uh, and design improvements. And the program works best when all different parts that integrated and complement each other. Cities like Mountain View have seen significant benefits from programs like this. These benefits include improving safety for students, um, reducing traffic congestion, providing a pleasant environment to achieve physical activities, and promoting inclusion and independence. Historically, mountain view had received federal funding for safe rust to school under a grand program called vehicle emissions reduction based at schools or verbs. Our current program uses VTA measure B funds as well as a small amount of city funds to obtain consultant support for various elements. Current program started in 2019, and several activities were carried out before the pandemic. These early activities included, developing school specific profile, suggested routes for different school, and organize the encouragement events like community wide bike rodeo. Here's an example of suggested route map that has been bedded with the school community via our newly formed coordinating committee. Um, as we were ramping up this program, um, we had, um, COVID-19. And which greatly impacted this work program. We weren't able to do any in-person activities such as musical assemblies or bike to school day. City staff were not allowed on campus between March 2020 to March 2022. Combined with the funding gap. This resulted in 4 years of missed lessons on traffic safety and education. Recent collisions involving students really highlight this gap in missed learning. There have been 5 collisions since the students returned to school in August 2021. Three of these collision resulted in minor injuries, a collision enhanced and fillets resulted in broken bones. And as you know, the collision add El Camino Real, and grant resulted in a tragic death of 13 year old Graham middle school student Andre Ritana. A common theme in all these collision was a lack of safe walking, riding, and driving behaviors, which could potentially be addressed through traffic safety training for students, as well as more careful and attentive driving on the parts of drivers. Um, current city activities, uh, for this program include infrastructure and engineering improvements as well as increased safety trainings and education for students. Um, for the infrastructure improvements near our schools, we have completed multiple bicycle and safety projects, including a protected bike lane near Graham Middle School, a raised crosswalk and bull baths near Castro Elementary School, and a class 2 protected bike way, um, by near Landos Elementary School. Along with infrastructure changes, infrastructure improvements, we have relaunched this program following COVID protocols. Late 2021, school resource officers provided traffic safety education at Graham Middle School. City has also dedicated staff time to make this program along a long lasting program for this city. With increased leadership and staff time. City has formed a safe routes to school coordinating committee to bring parents, students, schools, and different city departments together to coordinate on multiple safety effort. We hope that this committee will help us build a long lasting relationship with the school community. We have also expanded the crossing guard program by adding a new crossing guard at Hansen Miramonte intersection. And currently working in partnership with the Mountain View Wisman, uh, school district to increase the number of crossing guards for the next whole year. With updated COVID protocols in last in last March. Um, uh, in April, we held our 1st safety training at Graham Middle School during their PE class. The safety training was provided by city staff, school resource officers, state fast school consultants, um, that provided their expertise about 800 students attended this training, and this training included 4 topics. First was helmet fitting to describe to students why it is important to wear a helmet and how to fit it. Second was bicycle maintenance. Third was a crosswalk demonstration, how to do it safely. And we also provided rules off road, handouts and suggested map handouts. We also held a training at Landos elementary school, also last month where about 330 school students attended. This was also held during their PE class. There were about, there were 4 stations, including helmet fitting, crosswalk demonstration, and suggested route map. This month we are planning to hold safety training at Bob Elementary School. We are also hosting a citywide bike rodeo on May 21st at Rankstorp, basketball court, and we are planning to do additional, and additional events such as traffic safety musical and bicycle academy, and develop a safe as to school toolkit for parents and students. So they're able to hold their own events in near future. As we wrap up this currency fast to school program, we are working on establishing an approach for the next phase of this program. So to recap, 1st version of this program under verbs was well funded and completely consultant driven, with almost no city involvement and minimal investment from schools or school districts. The school helped publicize the events and helped with access to school counts. The current version of the program was launched in 2019 with more active involvement from the city. Under this program, schools are still expected to take counts of bikers and pedestrians, consultants are tasked to coordinate with schools, and city staff to provide supplemental training and establish a relationship with schools to improve communication. We have also established a coordinating committee with school staff, police SROs, and parents to get more direct feedback and participation in this program. As we are working on bringing back, safe as to school, uh, to different schools, we know that a strong relationship with city, school, and parents are needed for this program to continue and achieve this goal. And we hope that this ongoing coordination committee will help us build a long, fruitful relationship. Going forward, we anticipate more limited funding under measure B, and we are also looking at the most effective models for delivering this program. What we have found that the most effective program involve a strong partnership within and between the city, the school district, schools, and the school community like PTAs. So based on this model, staff is recommending that the city uses measure B funds strategically to focus on safety training. Ultimately, we would like to focus on training the trainers on bike and pedestrian safety. Staff will also work on to build partnership with schools and parents, so they have the opportunity to be involved in this program. So other city led activities could also include establishing and maintaining this coordinating committee, conducting infrastructure audits with a focus on peak crossing, providing resources for school, um, and volunteers to host different activities. Analyze counts and evaluate this program so we can recommend policies, and collaboratively managing the crossing guard program. We really need this program to be a partnership between the city and school and our hope is that ultimately schools will be delivering pedestrian and bicycle safety training as part of PE or orientation week. We also hope that schools will continue to help distribute communication and administer accounts for access to schools so that will help us evaluate this program. Parents and students are key partners in this program. We hope that they will participate in our committee and safety training, as well as lead certain activities such as bike to school day and bike parking surveys. Finally, we hope that the school district be part of this partnership through providing leadership, incorporating traffic safety education into annual curriculum, allow time for teachers on, uh, safe us to school, and invest in crossing guard programs. We believe that this partnership approach involving city, school parents, students, and the school district will deliver the greatest benefits to students. It will also allow us to strategically leverage our limited funding to focus on key priorities. So for the next steps. We will be continuing to provide safety trainings at different schools in Mountain View. We are currently working to host a bike rodeo that is scheduled on May 21st. We're expanding the coordinating committee by adding additional schools, and identifying crossing guard locations pending budget approval by city council and school board. So here we are today. We are looking for your feedback on current and future, uh, safe fast doing school activities, um, and, you know, just to end the presentation by saying that we know that it will take our entire community to provide this safety education and safety environment for our students to commute from school. So with that, um, This is at my presentation, thank you.

[00:16:22] Chair Sally Lieber: Thank you so much. We'll go on now too, any committee questions? Council member Metachek.

[00:16:37] Member Lisa Matichak: Thanks, I do have a few. Um. You use the word um, Tallies here. Um, and in the staff report, it talks about tallies of student access. And I just want to make sure I understand what that means. Is that like we're counting the number of students who arrive by being a pedestrian or by uh, on their bike or being dropped off from a vehicle? Is that what that is?

[00:17:07] Transportation Planner Ahmed: Exactly. Yes. Yes, counting how students are getting to school. Okay.

[00:17:14] Member Lisa Matichak: Um. And the coordinating committee, um, that sounds like an interesting program. I was wondering if, uh, the different parties are, um, just coordinating or are they involved in the actual like participation of the programs?

[00:17:35] Transportation Planner Ahmed: Yeah, so we um, launched it back in January with Graham. That was kind of our piloting. Um, it's a very engaged community, so we started with them. And the way we are kind of organizing this is by 3 part. 1st is what is city doing, what are we doing each month? And then what is the school doing as well as the parent and students? So the presentation or the meeting works kind of in 3 parts. Um, so the city, you know, we are working with updating the suggested map route. That's something we are getting through the Graham Middle School community to make sure that this is the route they're taking, they're aware, also hearing from them, what route, what else routes we should be considering. Um, and schools really helped us organize the safety training that we held in April 7th on Greyhound to give us that time, um, help us to kind of understand what other school needs are. They really thought about wearing a helmet is a big need, as well as like learning about how to pause an intersection. Um, so kind of providing feedback on what they're seeing from their day-to-day interaction with their students. And parents have been, um, you know, really expressing their want to volunteer for different events. So for the bike rodeo, you know, we will be looking for parents volunteer to help us staff that. So we are really like running this in an action oriented way on these 3 parties that come together.

[00:19:05] Public Works Director Cameron: So, um, can you stop screen sharing? It's nice. panel, everybody can see the panel. Yep, yep, yep. Apologies for the interruption.

[00:19:16] Member Lisa Matichak: Yeah, no worries. Um, I guess I'm wondering, does anyone besides the city provide training? Like actual, like, How to safely, you know, cross in a cross walk, um, that kind of stuff, or is it always the city or our consultants doing the actual training?

[00:19:37] Transportation Planner Ahmed: Currently, it is, um, us with SRO and our consultant that are providing, but the goal is to, um, train the PE teachers and kind of make parents and the teachers be part of it so they can do this ongoing training because once, even once and annually. It's not going to stick. It has to be in a recurring passion. Where the schools really need to provide that to their students. So, as we are doing this training, we are incorporating the teacher strategically either as a station lead or kind of observing, so they know the content. They know the language that we are using to, you know, train the students. Um, but, Currently, it's, it's this program that is providing the training. Okay.

[00:20:28] Member Lisa Matichak: That, that's really important to me that it's more than just the city, because I feel like, um, students might learn differently from different people and to have reinforcement from their parents and teachers. Um, you know, maybe that's, um, how they want to learn. Um. So yeah, I think that's really important to have that. Um, and then what's the the league cycling instructor? Um, is that an established program?

[00:20:57] Transportation Planner Ahmed: Yeah, yeah, do you want to provide information on that?

[00:21:01] Unknown Speaker: Yeah, um, that's from the, I think it's the League of American cyclist or something like that. forgot the acronym. But it's a standard program for training trainers on bicycle safety in particular. They also get into pedestrian safety, but their focus has been bicycle safety and delivering it to students. Okay.

[00:21:23] Member Lisa Matichak: Um, and then when it comes to the crossing guards. Um, Right now, are those 100% city funded?

[00:21:32] Transportation Manager Lo: Yes, I believe so.

[00:21:35] Member Lisa Matichak: And are, sorry, Don, were you going to say?

[00:21:37] Transportation Manager Lo: I was going to say the same thing at this. Yes, the crossing guards are 100% funded by the city. Okay.

[00:21:44] Member Lisa Matichak: And, um, increasing the number of crossing guards, uh, would that be the city's budget? It also said the school board. Are they talking about funding or is it just, or is it something else that they're talking about?

[00:21:59] Transportation Manager Lo: So in a recent conversation between the city manager and the school district superintendent, they both agreed that they would take as budget requests, $50,000 each, to help add the 5 crossing guards for a year. So the school district would be them participating in the funding of the additional crossing cards.

[00:22:24] Member Lisa Matichak: Um, let's see. I guess that's all my questions. Thanks, at least for now.

[00:22:32] Chair Sally Lieber: Also, Rick May.

[00:22:35] Member Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. And just to follow up on customer Matichuk's question. So is that just Mountain View Wisman school district or is it, okay, it's not the other 2 school districts? At

[00:22:48] Transportation Manager Lo: this time, it is the Mountain View Wisman school district, yes. Okay.

[00:22:52] Member Ellen Kamei: Has there been, and I know that this report was specific to Mountain View Wisman, but, When we're talking about safe routes to school, are we talking about the other 2 school districts as well, that sort of Mountain View? And how is that intersection going? Because I think, yeah. Um,

[00:23:10] Public Works Director Cameron: maybe I can share on that one. Um, so it includes all 3 school districts. Um, Mountain View, Bisman school district, the Los Altos Mountain View High School district, and the Los Altos school district, because they're a Mountain View students that also go to that, to each of those districts as well. We've um interacted already with the school districts, actually before the pandemic. Um, and we're kind of rolling out the program in terms of the delivery school by school that we wanted to start with in middle schools. So we reached out to both of them. Graham Middle School was very responsive, um, even before the uh, the terrible collision that happened. Um, and so we kind of, you know, in, um, delivering the training as they kind of approach us in terms of their readiness for scheduling it. I

[00:24:00] Member Ellen Kamei: see. Okay. So kind of more, more to come with the other school districts. Okay, understood. Thank you. Okay, so I have a couple questions and I'll try as much as I can to hold hold off on comments till after public comment. So as we're looking at our safe routes to schools. What role does signage play in? So I know that there's been some conversation, you know, obviously the crossing guards, right? and they have their signs, is there, Other thing, other signage that has been associated with safe routes to school. I think when I ask this because I see a lot of times cars going into the bike lane when students are trying to go home. And so I'm just curious if there's been any exploration into that as we were talking about safe routes to school. Um,

[00:24:51] Public Works Director Cameron: perhaps I can respond to that a little bit more generally, not just in signage but in infrastructure. But, um, we are looking at infrastructure improvements that address uh, routes to school. In particular, there was a, um, a budget request for some, some funding to augment a repaving project in order to provide uh, some access improvements to Graham Middle School, along Miramonte between Castro and Hans. Um, and so those sorts of things are what we're looking at in terms of infrastructure. Uh,

[00:25:27] Transportation Manager Lo: we can also invite our city traffic engineer, the result to talk about the type of signage that is typically used, as you're saying, to, you know, for bike lanes, crosswalks, where we want to call, drive our attention more, to students may be present. Sure.

[00:25:48] City Traffic Engineer Lopez: Lorenzo Lopez, city traffic engineer. We, there, there are a variety of signs that can be used, um, and you've, I'm sure you've seen all of them out there or most of them. We have the, uh, we call them floppy signs, but they're the signs that are placed in the middle of the street, on the center line near crosswalks that say, uh, the old to pedestrian. Um, We, we utilize, uh, just standard crosswalk signs near schools or away from schools. Um, the, the, Fluorescent yellow green signs with the crosswalk and the pedestrian on it, that's a crosswalk sign. And then we have, um, uh, school speed limit signs that are reduced and the majority of the schools have their school, uh, speed limit reduced to 15 miles per hour, and those are near schools as well. General bike lane signs, bike lane, um, There's no parking, there's a lot of areas where no parking and bike lane signs combined. And then we have, um, And for vehicles that are turning, there's a yield to pedestrians when turning, or yield to pedestrians and bikes when turning, depending, um, we use combination signs as well, whether you're turning left or right. Um, and that, that's just a kind of a handful of them, but they're, uh, those are the main ones that we would utilize, um, safe routes to school.

[00:27:07] Public Works Director Cameron: If I can add one more thing. So the city, uh, wants some TDI3 transportation development fund act, uh, development act, um, funding, which we used to, um, post, I think was like 90 signs and most of those were near schools. That's

[00:27:21] City Traffic Engineer Lopez: right. You probably noticed on the crosswalk signs on the post itself. It says slow down. Those were added to enhance and to remind the drivers um, to slow down near the crosswalks.

[00:27:34] Member Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. Yeah, I especially have seen the new infrastructure over at the end of Dana and Evelyn near the daycare childcare center. And that's, you know, really visible. Um, so for the measure A funding, is that the city can only use that for a programmatic element that doesn't, it won't qualify for any infrastructure improvement. Um,

[00:28:00] Transportation Manager Lo: that particular program, it's the measure B sales tax program, um, comes out of the bike and pet category of measure B, and they sliced it up a little bit, and they did set aside money that was meant for education and encouragement. It's not limited to schools. Um, cities may choose to use it for any type of education encouragement program. Related to bicycle and pedestrian travel. We have chosen to focus it on our safe routes to school program. Because, um, as was mentioned earlier, we originally had federal grant money that we competed for. It was never guaranteed not every city got it. That was providing substantial amount of annual money that we were using to pay consultants to do a lot of the safe route to school work. But under the measure B formula, Um, Mountain View is due to receive 50,000 a year. Um, for the 30 year period of the measure B program. And, um, so, again, we feel for 50,000, we're better off putting it towards education and encouragement, and relying upon our CIP, and going after the bicycle impaired capital grants for doing capital improvements. Great.

[00:29:17] Member Ellen Kamei: Thanks. So I know, um, May is bike to wherever month. Um, and I know that Mountain View, the cities have been an active participant for years, which just, and I, I feel bad because I did see the Con Valley by coalition, uh, director some time ago and I didn't ask, but is there any element where they do education for our youth or anything related that, um, to like safe routes to school? I didn't ask and I don't know if there's anything we can plug into there. And this is off of the, you know, questions I think Council member Magic was asking earlier, kind of increasing the amount of trainers, and maybe volunteers. I know they have a really great um, robust volunteer program there.

[00:30:04] Public Works Director Cameron: Yeah, did you want to share about the bike radio?

[00:30:07] Transportation Planner Ahmed: Yeah, so we are, um, on that Saturday, which is also one of the days of bike to wherever day, we are hosting, um, Citywide bike radio at Rankstore of, uh, basketball court, and I believe there are also energizer stations along different areas of the city, and we can definitely coordinate to provide some of the information about, you know, let them know about the bike rodeo, participate, learn, and as well as provide the handouts that we have that shows, uh, rules of, you know, writing and suggested maps of that sort. So we can, that's definitely a really good possibility to use their resources to help us advertise. Great.

[00:30:49] Member Ellen Kamei: Thank you. Thank you. Those are my questions. Okay. Thank

[00:30:53] Chair Sally Lieber: you. And I have a couple questions. In terms of the crossing guards, what is, uh, Are there crossing guards that have been recruited already or what's the timeline there? Peyote, do you want to? Uh,

[00:31:13] Transportation Planner Ahmed: so we currently have 8 crossing guards and they are um, currently they're active. Um, they're providing, uh, as the services, but I think the 5 additional one is pending approval, and those have not been decided in terms of the locations, uh, yet, uh, due to, you know, the nature of it, but. Also,

[00:31:33] Transportation Manager Lo: to be aware of, the way crossing guards are provided is, uh, it's the police department has been the lead and they contract with a firm. Which is very important for us because that firm then takes full responsibility for properly training the crossing guards. For assuring that if somebody calls in sick one morning, they can get a substitute crossing guard out there, they completely manage and run the program. And relieves the city of all of that responsibility. So, I know that um, during the year where we realize that we really did want another crossing guard added mid-year and we found some city funds to make that happen. They were very quickly able to go ahead and provide that additional crossing guard and I assume we're forewarning them that we may be adding 5 more locations next year so that they can make sure that they have the staffing available when it's time.

[00:32:30] Chair Sally Lieber: And an issue that I was wondering about is, um, so there are, locations where students are coming from and schools that they're going to. And it seemed like, um, most of the emphasis was placed on around the school sites. And are we also looking at the sending areas?

[00:33:01] Transportation Planner Ahmed: Yeah, so that's a, uh, yeah, do you want to jump in? Oh, no, you you can do okay. Okay. So, um, yeah, that's a great observation. And, um, you know, as we learned about how this crossing guard program works and the contracting works. One thing we want to take a look at of how these locations are determined and working. Um, and based on things, as you mentioned, the travel pattern of the students where they live, existing collisions, uh, locations, as well as what infrastructure we have to make sure we are really strategically placing these crossing guards at the locations we needed at the time of the day that that is needed, meaning, you know, going to school versus coming back from school. So that's work is coming up, um, you know, in in next one or 2 months for us to kind of analyze, um, these crossing guard locations, not to remove any crossing, but just to place them strategically that makes the, that gives us the greatest benefit. And

[00:34:00] Chair Sally Lieber: and I'm wondering, um, I'm thinking that the budget process is going to unfold in June. Is, is there any way that, Um, things could be kind of fast tracked in terms of getting more crossing guards. added for the balance of the school year. Well,

[00:34:24] Transportation Manager Lo: that would, again, need to be a, there's a 2 things going on. One is the funding, but the other is, is Brioti said, to know where the crossing guard should go requires a certain amount of analytical work, as well as outreach in working with the school community. So at this point, where staff has been looking towards, is assuming that those locations would be approved in June, I mean, the additional locations, and beginning work right now to analyze where they can best be utilized, along with, as POT was saying, the current locations, are they the right locations, should some adjustments be made? And that gives us the summer so that by time school starts again, at the end of August. Uh, you know, there's agreement with the school district with ourselves, uh, where they should be and they can be in place. So that's our focus right now. Okay.

[00:35:20] Chair Sally Lieber: And I'd be very interested as process goes on. Also, Are there summer locations that are different from school year locations? Like frequent, you know, associated with recreation programs or, uh, the pools or, Or something like that. Well, I will um, go now to the public comment, and I see that we have, um, one attendee, um, Mr. Bruce England, who has his hand up. Here. Okay,

[00:35:58] Public Works Director Cameron: so I've allowed him to talk and I'm gonna find my timer. So I think it's the 3 minute timer. That's

[00:36:06] Bruce England: good. I might need it. Hi. Uh, thank you, chair, committee members and staff. I'm Bruce England, on Wisman Station Drive. I have a few comments and questions after reading the staff memorandum and attending various city meetings on this topic recently and over the years. I hope committee members will consider seeking answer to the questions I'll pose here. My key question is about schools coverage by the program, although this was discussed to some extent during committee member questions. I can't tell from what's described if the program covers all schools in Mountain View, not just those in the Mountain View wisdom school district and those that are public. Also schools that are outside of Mountain View borders, but include routes that fall within our city. Regarding private school coverage, safety for Mountain View kids should not be dependent on the kind of school they attend. If it's a matter of who covers the costs, whether the city, school, district, or shared, and whether there are MOUs defining the terms and agreements. This information should be publicly available. In short, all impacted schools need to be included in the Mountain View program. Is this the goal being pursued and can it be if not? Regarding bike safety instruction, A, B, C, quick check. The memorandum sites, checks for air brakes, chain, and quick release features, but not lights. So, unfortunately, very common for some writers to not use lights. So bikes should be checked for this, and students instructed to use lights and reflective gear and under what circumstances. Also in the training. Our students instructed on what to do, drivers do not take their legal right away and wave bikers and pedestrians through. I believe this is a very dangerous practice, and it should be discouraged in all training for all users of our roadways. Also, students should be advised on the hazards of being distracted by devices over keeping their eyes on where they're going.

[00:37:51] Bruce England: I hope these are part of the training coverage. And lastly, regarding BPAC and youth advisory committee. These valuable bodies should be leveraged as much as possible for helping to make the safe routes to school program successful. BPAC is for sure, but I'm not sure this is true currently for the yak. Help from the bicycle coalition might also be useful, as you discussed, and we, on the Mountain View local team, which I'm currently managing, are happy to discuss what we might do to support the program. So, Priote, let's definitely connect on pulling together program related materials we can provide at the energizer stations. Thanks. Hey,

[00:38:30] Chair Sally Lieber: and is there anyone else would like to speak from the public? You can either use the uh, raise hand button in Zoom or press star 9 on your phone? I don't think we have any other public comments, so we'll bring it back to, uh, the committee for discussion and deliberation. Uh, Counselor Rick May. Great,

[00:39:02] Member Ellen Kamei: thanks. Um, well, I just want to thanks staff. Um, this is, I think, really heartening to hear about what we're doing and I think today our committee's talking about what else we can do. Um, so in terms of uh, feedback. I think I provided a little bit. Um, you know, um, and happy to hear Mr. England is, will, will help us with, um, during Bito and every day to get information out about our bike rodeo, but also maybe about like our safe routes to school program just overall. Um, I do, I would like to maybe have on the back burner some further information of what the rollout would be at, um, MVLA and LASD, um, for the future. Um, I think it would be helpful, especially if there's budget requests for council. You know, what the implications could be when we expand to our other 2 school districts, um, that serve our students and, And, you know, if there was a match from the other 2 school districts. Well, then that would be, you know, 200,000, right? So, um, is that enough, not enough? I think that that would be interesting for the entire council to learn about. Um, also grateful to hear more about, um, the infrastructure improvements, and I'm sure we'll talk about that in the next items. So I'm sure that Rio Lorenzo will tell us all about that. Um, another partnership I was thinking about because I do know that our crossing guards come from the police, our police department funds, or at least some of it, is, um, how we might be able to utilize some volunteers from Mountain View Pal, or the Mountain View Public Safety Foundation. I know they just had their, um, event, the youth extravaganza the other week. And, um, they're at least for the public safety foundation, and I know that they're always looking for ways to support the community. And if it's about people power, Maybe they can also be trainers, um, or, you know, know of a network so that we can hire those crossing guards more quickly. Thank you. much. Uh,

[00:41:10] Chair Sally Lieber: Councilman roommate a check. Thanks. Um, just

[00:41:17] Member Lisa Matichak: a couple things. Um, I do agree with the approach to safe route to school 3.0. Um, and um, I, um, do like the idea of these coordinating committees, and as I mentioned during the questions. I do think it's important to have, um, ongoing training just, not a, you know, one time event. And I just think it's important to have training from different people. Um, parents, um, other volunteers, um, the school resource officers, teachers. You know, I think some students feel comfortable with some people and maybe not others. And so, I want to make sure we meet them where they are so that they learn. Um, and um, I would like to know more information about the other school districts as well. Um, although, Do you usually have um, programs at the high school level or crossing guards at the high school level? Or is it? Typically for the lower grades. The younger students. Sorry, I'm gonna throw in a question there. There

[00:42:31] Unknown Speaker: are definitely programs that are geared towards the high schoolers. It's, you know, and it's a different curriculum. Um, And it is something we've done in the past. With the previous programs. So, We would definitely be looking to expand to the high schools. And regarding, um, LA SD, um, because many of the, most of their schools are not in Mountain View, but as you say, Mountain View students do go to, to those schools. That is something we were, where we would do is work in cooperation with, not only the school district, but the city of Los Altos, for instance, there is an elementary school, um, that many Mountain View students go to and City of Los Altos provides 2 crossing guards near that school because it's over the city boundaries. So, One of the one of the key things about working with that school district is more to leverage. And and create a partnership both with the city of Los Altos as well as the school district. Okay. Um. Let's

[00:43:33] Member Lisa Matichak: see. I think that's it. Thanks. Great. Um,

6.2 Vision Zero Action Plan/Local Road Safety Plan

[00:43:41] Chair Sally Lieber: some comments that that I have, uh, I did see in the curriculum, um, some discussion of, Defensive cycling and defensive walking. Um, to catch the drivers, eye, and um, things like that, and I, I really hope that that can be emphasized as much as possible, because it's just in, in my own experience, and especially at the, the major intersections. Um, drivers will not stop until they're about at least a quarter of the way into the intersection. And um, you really have to be on guard. Um, to to be able to, um, uh, not become part of a collision right there. So, um, I would love to see that really emphasized. And then, um, And the issue of where are the sending areas? I think staff would probably already have, um, uh, something in place for new developments, um, and and plant pre-planning for the suggested routes to school from from those new developments, and, um, you know, a mobile home community changes from, A senior community to all ages and and things like that. It's not possible to touch every single. Um, you know, change in population, but I'm sure that, um, staff has a way of pre-planning, um, for those. And I also wondered, um, my nephew went to, uh, um, bike riding, training, and defensive riding skills that was sponsored by REI, and I know that REI moved from Mountain View to Sunnyvale. Um, but they might have some input from the, the things that they do or, um, be able to participate in some special, um, ways of of helping to promote our, uh, our events. And, uh, I think that those are, uh, all my comments, uh, related to this, and, uh, I'll I'll hold on to the rest for the next item. So thank you so much to stay off for the presentation. Thank you. And uh, we'll go on now to uh, items 6.2, which is the vision 0 action plan, and local road safety plan. And again, the the staff presentation will be provided by Ms. Ahmed uh, transportation planner. Thank

[00:46:43] Transportation Planner Ahmed: you. I am just starting my presentation. Hope you all can see my screen, right? Um, so hello everyone. Again, I'm Pure D Ahmed, um, transportation planner, and today I will be presenting and seeking feedback on key deliverables for vision zero action plan and local road safety plan. Today we'll be covering findings from systemic road safety analysis, um, as well as seeking feedback on uh, our draft, uh, safety countermeasures and prioritization criteria that will, uh, be used to prioritize projects in upcoming months as well as uh, describe what are the next steps for this project. Um, so in 2019, city council adopted a vision 0 policy. The policy is based on the principle that the loss of life from traffic collision is unacceptable and often preventable, and transportation systems should be designed to protect human life and anticipate human error, so that the consequence of a collision is not severe injury or death. Additionally, safe human behaviors, education and enforcements are essential to a safe transportation system. Vision 0 policy sets an ambitious goal of setting uh, of getting to 0 fatalities associated with traffic crashes by 2030. Based on best practices, a vision to your action class action plan focuses on places with the history of severe injury and fatal crashes, outline actions that cover 7 ease of engineering, education, encouragement, enforcement, emergency response, equity, engagement, and evaluation. By comparison to local road safety plan, which adopts the systemics, a safety approach, which identifies locations with the history of severe injury and fatal collisions, as well as other locations with similar land use and roadway factors. Based on this analysis, it outlines proven safety countermeasures that tend to be focused on engineering or infrastructure strategies. Local road safety plan approach is set out by California Department of Transportation, also known as Caltrans. So this study began in 2019. Um, and the start of this plan, we needed to understand the traffic site safety issues in mountain view. To do this analysis, we obtained crash data from the transportation injury mapping system, which is a compilation of police report. This analysis is for the 6 year period, and this was the latest data available at the start of the project. From this analysis, we found that there were about 1200 crashes between 2014 to 2019, including 77 fatal and severe injury crashes. This graph here shows the crash severity and mode share. Pedestrian and bicyclists are overrepresented among fetal and severe injury crashes compared compared to their mode share. For example, pedestrians, makes about 38% of fatal crashes where they're only about 3% of the total mood share in the city. 73% of fatal and severe injury crashes occur on inner on 35 miles per hour streets or above. 50% of fatal and severe injury crashes occur at intersections of 35 miles per hour and 25 miles per hour street. And lastly, most of the severe injury crashes occur at major intersections which are signalized. The 2nd set of information that we, um, that we included an understanding of different types of crashes, for pedestrian and driver, the common crash tribe occur at intersection with permissive left turn. Where a pedestrian is crossing straight and a driver is turning left. Um, also at Intersection, um, where pedestrian is crossing with no signal or crosswalk where a driver is approaching straight. And a driver purchased straight while a pedestrian is crossing between intersection. For bicyclist and driver, the common crash type occurs between intersection where driver is proceeding straight and colliding with the bicyclist. At intersection where a driver is approaching straight, while a bicyclist is proceeding through the intersection. Also at intersection where a driver is turning right while a bicyclist is proceeding through the intersection. And for a motor vehicle, vehicle to vehicle only crashes between intersection where driver runs off road due to various reasons, including distracted driving, speeding and alcohol and drug intoxication. So based on this safety analysis, we identified a menu of countermeasures to address different crash types. These countermeasures are compiled using federal highway administration's proven countermeasure toolbox and other best practices. The engineering countermeasures proposed here are using federal highway, highway administration's proven countermeasure toolbox to address different crash types. The countermeasures include curb extensions, which increases visibility and reduces speed for right turning vehicles. Protected bike leads to create separation between drivers and bicyclists. Median crossing to improves visibility for pedestrians and increased driver awareness, protected intersection, provides dedicated space, and that provides dedicated space for different modes, and integrates different modes under one space, and protected left turn for minimizing conflict points between drivers and pedestrians. Tool bus also includes leading pedestrian interval to give pedestrian more headway in an intersection as well as increase their visibility. Pedestrian hybrid beacon and rectangular rapid flashing beacons to increase pedestrian visibility, as well as drivers awareness of pedestrians, and improve lighting and intersection extension lines to better pedestrian and bicycle visibility. Counter measure also includes speed management strategies, including access management to reduce conflicts between exiting vehicle, from a driveway into incoming traffic, road diet to allocate space for road users, and reduce traveling speed, and speed management that includes education, enforcement, and design changes, to manage and reduce speed to improve safety. Through local road safety plan, we have identified proven engineering countermeasure to improve safety, but we know that to improve safety. There needs to be additional strategies. This is where vision 0 comes in. Vision 0 is a multi-prong approach that includes strategies such as education, enforcement, evaluation and engagement to address safety. Some of the ways we are implementing vision 0 strategies include engineering, current plans that are completed include XSMV, and we are currently starting active transportation plan. City has completed a number of bicycle and pedestrian improvement projects, and many of them are in design or in construction. Here are some of here is an example of some of the projects. Through these improvement projects. City is applying HWAs, proven countermeasures, and will improve safety that will improve safety at these locations. Along with engineering strategies. We also have education, encouragement, and evaluation. As as we just talked about earlier this year, we relaunched the safe routes to school program. And we also have an interdepartmental visions here, a working group where different departments such as traffic engineering, capital projects, police department, fire department, and planning need and shape the next generation of safety projects. We are prioritizing vision 0 across all city departments. We are also reporting quarterly collision analysis to cities, bicycle and pedestrian advisory committee. Based on the countermeasure toolbox and crash analysis, we will be, um, identifying locations for safety improvements, and applying a prioritization criteria to provide a setup to give us a priority project for this plan. So the draft prioritization criteria will be used to prioritize different locations, and the prioritization criteria include severity of crashes such as fatality, severe injury or complaint of pain. Mixed criteria is equity, that and it includes income level and vulnerable road users such as pedestrian, bicyclists, people with disabilities and senior. Proximity to key destinations, this category includes destination that should be accessible for all modes of transportation. Destinations include school park, commercial areas, senior centers, healthcare facilities, and libraries. Proven effectiveness through this criterion. There will be determination of the planning cost of the implementation versus is effectiveness per federal highway administration's toolbox. And last category is implementation. This category includes implementation visibility of different safety improvements. This matrix includes potential leverage to ongoing city efforts such as plants, VIPs, development projects, or ongoing maintenance efforts. Also project completion, timeline, and degree of agency coordination that is needed to implement a certain project. Um, we have a seat, we have presented these um, deliverables which includes countermeasures and prioritization criteria to our community, as well as bicycle and pedestrian advisory committee. Um, so for the committee meeting on March 24th, we had a virtual meeting, and this meeting was advertised through social media, city website, yard signs, as through email blast, for a different email list. We had about 127 members attending the meeting, and majority of the participants lived and worked in Mountain View. Participant provided their condolences to Andre's family and described the need for countermeasures that includes no right turn on red, quick build strategies, reducing strategies that reduces speed, and emphasis on transportation safety education, as well as put more protected bike lanes and roadway diets. Participant also emphasized the need for prioritizing locations that are near schools, and projects that can be implemented in a faster, faster fashion, faster way, faster timeline, and improving safety for a bicyclist. End of March, um, March 30th, we also presented to uh, BPAC, which is bicycle pedestrian advisory committee, and they also express support for the proposed countermeasures and proposed prioritization criteria. Their feedback also included the need for a new right turner, never read, when an applicable quick bill strategies, implementation of sidewalk and transportation safety education. The PAC member also emphasized the need of a prioritization look, prioritizing locations that are near schools and locations with high bicycle level of traffic stress and locations with missing sidewalks. So for the next steps, we will be analyzing these feedback and incorporating them in our projects as they are, as they develop. We will also be, uh, using the prioritization criteria to develop a list of prioritized projects as per this study and develop an integrated vision zero action plan and local road safety plan. Road ahead is we'll be bringing back the draft plan in summer in our, to our community outreach process, and will be coming back to the council in ball of 2022 with the draft plan to seek for their feedback. So with that, we have 2 discussion questions today. First one is, um, does CTC have feedback on countermeasures or the strategies? That is part of this action plan. Also, the CDC concur with the prioritization criteria for the local world safety plan. With that, I conclude my presentation. Thank you. Thank

[01:00:33] Chair Sally Lieber: you so much. Go 1st to committee member questions. Council member Metachek. Thanks.

[01:00:48] Member Lisa Matichak: Um. Let's see, on the community feedback. Um, When. Let's see, how was the question asked, um, if you strongly disagree, somewhat disagree, and so on. Was it for all of the items or just, Some of them are, I guess, what I'm trying to understand is, for the people who somewhat agreed, What did they not agree with? If they only somewhat agreed. Right.

[01:01:24] Transportation Planner Ahmed: Um, so we, the prioritization criteria, that question was asking, uh, you know, uh, in, some, like overall, like strongly agree neutral. So it was a multiple choice. So, we didn't, um, you know, uh, capture kind of the nuances between like somewhat versus neutral versus completely agree. And, uh, Yeah, so, so we, we didn't know which criteria they probably agreed more versus which one they didn't, uh, you know, where, how, how that went because it was a, it was a choice of like, thought four. And

[01:01:58] Public Works Director Cameron: and this is, Probably one of the disadvantages we've seen with the virtual meetings, again, 127 attendees. Alls we could do is a poll, and doing more, the, we tried to capture as much as we could from the questions coming in, the comments coming in to summarize what we were hearing. You know, when you do in-person meetings, we could have set them all up with post-its and they could have written things down and we could have captured a lot more. Being precise and answering, that question would be very difficult for us. Okay. Um. See.

[01:02:35] Member Lisa Matichak: Actually, I think this was in the attachment that, of course, now I've accidentally closed. Um, And in there, I think I saw data on the number of collisions. Um, And there was one particular intersection. 237 in Middlefield that was quite the outlier. Um, are, and I believe there's a project to reconfigure at least part of that intersection. But, um, what's the timing of that reconfiguration and would anything else be done to that intersection? Either in the meantime or after reconfiguration to make it safer. So

[01:03:24] Public Works Director Cameron: that project is currently in design, it is being led by VTA, since we're dealing with Caltrans right away in a freeway. Um, We would have to get back to you on on the exact timing. I will say that, as is typical, because you have to follow Caltrans process and do all of their different studies and their approvals, it takes a lot longer to get through. Um, but the good news is, is the project was successful in receiving measure B sales tax funding for construction. The city is already out, you know, is allocating the money that we need to advocate for match. So that should put us in a position that, you know, as VTA continues the project. We can, you know, move it forward into construction. One of the one of the key changes of that project is also making is to improve bicycling conditions through the interchange area. A lot of these collisions, the table you're referring to was actually um, high crash locations for motor vehicles. But again, um, through some of these changes, it should make operational improvements. I do see our city traffic engineer has his hand raised, so, Norenzo, is there more you want to add to that? Yeah,

[01:04:39] City Traffic Engineer Lopez: just a little bit. Um, we, some of my staff met with our police department staff and Caltran staff at that location, within the last couple of months, and, um, The request from our police department was, They've noticed a lot of vehicle collisions from people exiting the off-rap and people on middle field. And a lot of it has to do with the spacing of the signals when you're going in the, I call it the eastbound direction towards Sunnyvale. Um, The state signal, which is the one closest to the bridge. You don't want people on Middlefield to see that as a green if you're approaching the signal before it. So it's got what's called a programmed visibility head on it. So you don't see it until you're a certain point past the, it's the Ferguson intersection. So, What was determined in the field was Caltrans would go out and install some, um, edges around their signal heads on the back plate to, and you may have seen it in other locations where it's, it's a yellow, uh, border around the signal head to draw more attention to it because it kind of blends into the background. So that's one of the, one of the measures that was agreed upon by all parties, to at least try to do something in the near term, um, before this, the project that Don mentioned is, is a much longer term project. So, um, if there are other things that we can come up with in the in the near term, will, will work with Caltrans on those as well. Thanks.

[01:06:12] Member Lisa Matichak: I appreciate that. I feel like, you know, that consumes a lot of resources with all the collisions at that location. And, you know, you think of all the people who then have to deal with the results of those collisions. Um, I, go that way very frequently and I absolutely hate that intersection. It is not fun to go through it at all. Um, I do try to avoid it if I can. Um, let's see. That's it for questions. Thanks. Thanks.

[01:06:48] Chair Sally Lieber: I recommend. Did you have any questions? Yes,

[01:06:52] Member Ellen Kamei: sorry, I was trying to organize my thoughts on my notes here. Um, so for, I'm assuming maybe this came up during the, um, the community meeting, but some of the, uh, areas that have been conflict zones are either the county or the state. Um, and so I know that, um, this came before CTC a while ago in terms of having bike lanes on Al Camino. And so I was just wondering what the timeline is on that. And I know the county has been looking at it on, um, Why can't I think of the expressway? Um, or, I'm having a loss of mental. Yes, thank you. Brain part. So, what, where are we with with those infrastructure improvements? Um, Do we do we have any update from either of those entities? as we're looking at our own counter measures and strategies. Well,

[01:07:56] Public Works Director Cameron: in terms of El Camino reality, as you're aware, um, we are working closely with, with Caltrans and, um, they, they've already, we, we have agreement with them. They've been designing in adding bike lanes on El Camino real. Where possible, they are protected bike ways, where right away is more constrained. It's more buffered class 2 bike lanes, but we continue to work with them. And they've been really, they've also taken this on as a high priority to make as many bicycle related improvements as possible along El Camino Real. In addition to the pedestrian improvements, high visibility crosswalks at every intersection, adding 3 new pedestrian crossings at on El Camino and I mentioned this at the BPAC meeting that originally the city thought we would have to pay for those new pedestrian crossings and we had put in our CIP set aside 350000000 to cover them. And Caltrans was able to get a state grant. And added it in to their project at no cost to the city. So these are things that were very encouraged by. Right now, the key is is Caltran should be wrapping up design this summer. They have a whole process. They have to go through to get approval to advertise. They even have to go to the California Transportation Commission. So they're really striving to get everything in place. What they call is to list the project, which is advertised the project, in the fall, so that they can get under construction early in 2023 as weather allows. And we're feeling a strong sense of urgency here, not just in order to make the bike pit improvements, but as you know, the payment is literally falling apart. And so we wanted to work very carefully with them to make sure that the improvements they incorporate in will not delay the pavement repairs. Um, added to that, um, our own streetscape plan call for even more bike related improvements. These are things that were beyond what could be incorporated at the pavement project. So, We are continuing to work on pursuing those after the pavement project, and Caltrans has already indicated to us that they're willing to work with us on that. Give us permits, if the city wants to take on some of those future improvements. So we're well underway for El Camino reality. Um, Central Expressway. Um, I was not, um, I will admit I'm out of date then if the county is considering adding bike planes to Central Expressway. I have not heard that. I know that they, uh, up to recently, their, their policy had been to, um, design the shoulders, similar to bike lanes, make sure they can accommodate bicyclists, but not designate them as bike lanes. So, but we are continuing to work with the county, especially where we cross Central Expressway. Uh, to make, you know, buy compared improvements for crossing the expressway. Great,

[01:11:07] Member Ellen Kamei: thank you. And I can follow up with our county supervisor on that. I think, uh, they've been trying to encourage different, you know, transportation modes. So I think they might be open to new ideas. Um, and then I just have one more question, which is, I know that we've been looking at the different classifications of bike lanes. Have we designated any type of bike boulevards in Mountain View? Is that something that's in the works? I thought that. We

[01:11:34] Transportation Manager Lo: have, as part of the um, black transportation plan that was uh, completed, I think, in 2015, there's um, a number of routes that were designated as potential bike boulevards and also um, bike routes. And um, So those are, Routes that we would, where we would prioritize, um, you know, particularly improvements like shallows and traffic calming. We'll be updating the bicycle transportation plan in the upcoming active transportation plan um this coming year. Great,

[01:12:08] Member Ellen Kamei: thank you, because I, I know that, um, other, like, cities and communities, I know I've seen it and Palo Alto and in San Jose have done more distinction between, um, the bikes and, um, bikes, pedestrians and vehicles, and I feel like that's the kind of infrastructure that's necessary, especially as we're looking at bike boulevards, right, where you'll have your more seasoned cyclists want to be able to move at a higher speed. Okay, great. Thanks. Great.

[01:12:40] Chair Sally Lieber: And I have a couple questions. She had a lot of people contacting me. Um, asking, can we, uh, ban the right turn on red at some of the more, um, complex intersections that that we have, particularly around El Camino, and what's the situation with that? So

[01:13:11] Public Works Director Cameron: I'm going to invite our city traffic engineer to talk about the conditions under which no right turns on reds are typically put in place. And and then, um, between us, we can talk about what it would mean to study putting in more of these signs. So, Lorenzo? Sure,

[01:13:35] City Traffic Engineer Lopez: thank you, Don. Um, we typically are, um, oh, give me a second. you hear me? Yes. Okay. Sorry. Um, So, No right turn on red is definitely a tool that could be used. And, you know, we we have to look at. Different configurations, the geometry of the intersection has to be considered as part of the evaluation, um, inadequate site distance for for determining vehicles. And a lot of this, you have this in locations where you have some kind of the staggered intersection or steep grades. If it's not all flat coming into the intersection, then you can have issues there. Um, the presence of a structure that's causing a visibility concern could be part of the part of the, um, the problem or a problem and just unexpected conflicts, um, Anywhere within the intersection itself. So, what, what I want to be cautious of is, We don't want to install or we don't want to recommend installing, um, a no right turn on red. If you if it could lead to unintended consequences. And One example of that could be, if you have everybody waiting to turn right until there's, until there's a green light. You start to create queuing that could impact other intersections along the corridor. That queuing. You, you know, you get impatient drivers, they may start turning into driveways that are along that route to cut through certain areas like a shopping center. Um, And what you can also create is a right turn on green conflict. So what that means is everybody's waiting to turn only on green, and now you have people in a hurry trying to make that turn when the only opportunity they can do it without getting sighted is on a green. Now they're turning in front of pedestrians that are crossing behind pedestrians that are crossing. And you know, this is, this is one of those, you know, as I mentioned, unintended consequence of restricting the right turn on red. Um, So, all of that has to be kind of looked at as, as a whole, globally to make sure that you're not creating a, creating a new problem by thinking you're solving the other, uh, uh, a problem there by installing the side. Um, hopefully that helps. No,

[01:16:12] Public Works Director Cameron: I'll add on also, because I know this questions come up quite a bit. Also, we need to recognize if we're talking about El Camino real, that is Caltrans operated, and people sometimes are not aware that they have complete control of the intersection, including the city street approaches to the intersections. So ultimately, you know, they get final approval of any striping any signage, the signal operations. Um, so for El Camino, it's Caltran's decision. However, you know, as Lorenzo pointed out, there are certain conditions where, um, no right turn on red is recommended. Um, and they're, they're pretty specific on where you would want to do them. Uh, to do them in other locations. Uh, which, you know, would require a thorough traffic analysis and assessment to identify the potential unintended consequences. And should Caltrant decide to study it. The city would also submit our own list of things we would like Caltrans to consider. Lorenzo and I start talking about, you know, if you get those major queuing backups that start to impact other intersections, can create other safety issues for those intersections. Um, do we now need to identify our own capital improvement projects for those intersections to resolve those safety issues. Cutting, we're very concerned about cut through traffic and drivers. Um, you know, cutting through shopping center, parking lots, and so on to avoid. So it's a balancing act of, um, your traffic operations, preserving safety, and and and working, you know, how the intersection has a whole functions.

[01:18:03] Chair Sally Lieber: And in terms of the issue of, Uh, the drivers that approach a red light and they're going to, um, make a right turn on red and they only look in the direction of the approaching traffic and they don't look in the direction that they'll be driving. So they don't see pedestrians or bicycles that are, are attempting to cross. What, is there any thing that we could do to try to approach that? Are there other communities that use a sign that says, look right and left before turning?

[01:18:48] City Traffic Engineer Lopez: Yeah. Yep. I mentioned a sign earlier that is the yield yield to pedestrians and bicycles. And we've installed them at various locations already throughout the city. But that's something that can be installed in a situation like this where you're trying to draw attention to the, the driver that may be looking, as you said, to the left, they're not necessarily looking to the right, so we would install a sign to draw their attention, and it, it specifically says yield to pedestrians when turning right, and it has symbols, so it's not just all words. Um, so we have we have done that at various locations already.

[01:19:28] Chair Sally Lieber: And are we able to do any of those near, uh, El Camino? I think, like, I, I've seen, in one instance, a car hit a boy at, um, El Monte in El Camino, uh, because the driver was doing exactly that, uh, looking, uh, Northwest on El Camino for traffic and not looking, Southeast, uh, for where there was a bicyclist coming out and just completely clocked him, and, um, You know, it's, uh, I, I see really close ones all the time with just that, that dynamic.

[01:20:14] City Traffic Engineer Lopez: Yeah, as Dawn had mentioned, all approaches to El Camino are also under Caltrad's control. So any, any striping change, any signage that would be installed on, on the, a leg that approaches El Camino would need the Caltrans approval, but that's something that, you know, we've done in the past, we, we've reached out to Caltrans and said, hey, could you consider adding one of these type of signs at, at whatever location it is? And they've, you know, in many cases, they have done it.

[01:20:50] Unknown Speaker: I'll also add on, um, because I think we mentioned this previously also. We did approach Caltrans about the city going ahead and refreshing and putting in more of a high visibility crosswalk. At the El Camino real grant intersection, and adding in a sign for more awareness of bikes and pets crossing. And, um, Caltrans indicated we applied for a permit that they could look favorably on it. So it is something we are pursuing as, you know, so that we could do that relatively quickly until Caltrans goes in and does their repaving project, at which time they'll have to restripe and all of those pieces. So, we are, as a city, trying to see if we can make some of those more, you know, faster turnaround measures. Do them ourselves in the next month or 2 as soon as we have a permit.

[01:21:44] Chair Sally Lieber: Okay, great. Yeah, I think that would make a huge difference. And the other one, um, it seems like with the, the growth in the delivery businesses, there, um, there are a lot of, Uh, instances where the line to stop for a stop sign in a neighborhood has kind of faded out. And, um, Or maybe it could be placed a little bit further back. Uh, because the cars really don't stop until they're at least half of the car is over the line. And, um, so I've almost been hit. Like a number of times that way in old Mountain View, where it seems like folks would be driving kind of slowly because there's trees, there's shade spots, there's a lot of pets in the environment. And, um, yeah. Cars will just uh, really come through the intersection uh, halfway through it before they stop. And is, do we have a program to repaint those stopping lines?

[01:22:59] City Traffic Engineer Lopez: We do. Part of the problem is, we used to do an annual citywide project that, That did the striping, but they did it in paint. And the problem with paint is, it doesn't last very long. So we've we've changed our strategy over the last couple of years to start doing thermoplastic, which lasts much longer and it's very bright. So, the problem with thermal plastic is the cost is much higher. And so we had to prioritize locations. We prioritize school areas, crosswalks near schools, and the stop bars, um, along with those crosswalks. So, um, It's that's part of our maintenance program, and anytime that we're doing new resurfacing projects or anything like that. We've actually changed our crosswalk, um, standard now to the full ladder style where before it was a, um, just the 2 bars going across the street. Not very visible in some cases. So the latter style really pops and draws your attention to it, in addition to a stop bar in advance of that crosswall. So, we, we've tried to incorporate a lot of these changes into projects that are already in the queue that are coming. And, and as far as the maintenance projects, you know, if there are locations that are in pretty bad shape, as a, as an interim measure, we can do work orders and our field crew can do paint. They can go out there and install paint, um, enhancements, but, Ultimately, we want to get some thermoplastic out there. markings some thermoplastic markings.

[01:24:37] Unknown Speaker: And what Lorenzo's saying is that to do the thermal plastic, we have to contract it out. Because it requires special equipment. Um, we do have in our CIP, an annual project uh, that we're starting to work on for street lane line and legend repainting. I've, you know, and this is, this is, uh, somewhere, we're getting going on, identifying the locations, preparing the design so that we can contract that workout, to do some refreshing.

[01:25:06] Chair Sally Lieber: Okay, great. And I think to whatever extent possible, if those can be overlapped so that we get paint until we get the thermal plastic and, um, because it really is pretty hair raising to go out. I, I don't let my dog walk across the street because it's just too, too crazy, even on these very small streets, um, with drivers that are just not, uh, that attentive. Um, so we'll go ahead and uh, open it up, uh, for public comments now. And uh, if members of the public would like to click the raise hand. Um, button and zoom or press star 9 on their phone and staff will uh, display a timer. And uh, 1st up, we have um, Mr. Bruce England.

[01:26:06] Bruce England: Thank you, chair. And committee members and staff. Again, I'm Bruce England on Wisman Station Drive. I have one suggestion I'd like to make regarding the project prioritization criteria. It's discussed in the staff memorandum. I know it's late in the game, but I hope it could be considered anyway. As you know, we have a number of very complex locations in Mountain View with multiple potentially conflicting activities present that can pose particular hazards to those using our roadways. One obvious example of this at this time is El Camino Grant Road. This location includes traffic moving to and from El Camino, Grant Road, and Highway 237, multiple driveways serving 2 gas stations, the Walgreens Shopping Center, and In-N-Out Burger, with vehicle cues that have been extending down the southbound right side of Grant or El Camino, thus forcing following vehicles to make what can be dangerous lane changes in order to pass. These dangers are exacerbated if bicyclists also happen to be in the lane. It's also extremely common to see drivers blatantly run the left turn red light from 237 to Eastbound El Camino long after their light has turned red. With traffic enforcement largely non-existent at this location. Drivers are free to do just about whatever they want, and they do. Other problematic locations, and understanding that a number of El Camino related improvements are planned or anticipated, and given the challenges, with including Caltrans requirements, are San Antonio, El Camino, Rang Starfell Camino, and El Monte Escuela, El Camino, and the 237 Middlefield Interchange Committee member Matachek called out. My suggestion is that complex intersections be included in project prioritization criteria as its own criterion, worthy of specific consideration as priorities are determined. As Mountain View becomes increasingly densified and urbanized, this measure will only become more essential over time. Not only should mitigations be considered for existing developments, project approvals should also take this into account. One example was the denial of the Chick-fil-A drive-thru project some years ago, which would have had negative impact on pedestrian and bicycle safety, and also on apartment residents living practically on top of the vehicle queue for that project. We'll need to see even more success stories like this one as we proceed with vision 0 initiatives in mind. Lastly, at the last BPAC meeting, suggestions were made to add signs to direct cycle lists to parallel side roads and sidewalks and challenging locations. While there might be no better alternatives to this approach, it's not at all an ideal solution. Thanks.

[01:28:41] Chair Sally Lieber: Thank you. We'll go on now to Mr. James Kuzma.

[01:29:03] James Kuzsmaul: Hello, and good evening. I'm James Guzmo. I am just speaking for myself today. Um, I just wanted to, I, I heard it was briefly brought up some of the issues around, um, Right turning cars conflicting with, with, Vestrians, and since it didn't get brought up during questions, I wanted to mention the staff report does call out the, uh, fact that leading pedestrian signals are one of the things in the toolkit, for, um, vision 0 to make it to the pedestrians and cyclists can get ahead of cars, um, before they start turning, which helps improve visibility and can help with some of those situations. The one other thing, which is just sort of not to pick on the orange, though, but since he was the one that used the phrase and I've heard it used before, was sort of this talk of unintended consequences. I do want to make sure we're very careful about not letting fear of unintimate consequences, distract us from the very real consequences that are happening right now. Um, It's, it's sort of, there can be on intimate consequences. That doesn't mean that we shouldn't go ahead with making improvements, even if we can't always perfectly characterize exactly what those consequences are. Um, and last I just want to say, I know I tend to, uh, rag on staff a bit just because it, I'm always trying to see what what improvements we can make, um, and always have some slight disagreements about what what prioritizations and trade-offs we make, but I do think that a lot of what's been done and what's been proposed is would be an outstanding improvement for all of our city streets. Thank you.

[01:30:33] Chair Sally Lieber: Thank you. And we'll go on to Ms. Valerie Fenwick.

[01:30:45] Valerie Fenwick: Hi, I'm Valerie Fennick, member of resident of Rex Manor Neighborhood. I am a member of the BPAC, but I'm not representing the BPAC with my comments tonight. I really want to thank um, the committee's uh, insight and questions in this area. I think there's some really important work that's coming ahead here. And I'm really excited about a lot of it. But I do would like to ask for folks. One of the things that was mentioned is 2 of the major areas where we have the most pedestrian or bicycle conflict with vehicles, our roads where it's 35 miles per hour within the city, or 35 mile per hour intersecting with a 25 mile per hour speed limit. Well, I know we've heard unintended consequences already come up. One of the things I have not seen explicitly proposed here is the consideration of low ring speed limits. And I know there's a lot of quagmire around that about whether or not it'll be enforceable, whether or not um, it may slow down traffic. Um, my, my own experience driving around Mountain View during high, uh, rush hour time is people are not going 35 mile per hour anywhere near it. Um, and when they, when you are able to go 35 miles per hour is when there's not a lot of traffic happening and people tend to go 45, 50 miles per hour, and that will be fatal for a pedestrian. Um, I know there was also a comment earlier, um, but a safe across the school, uh, about the fatality meet earlier as well about, uh, unsafe cycling behavior. I will say so many times I literally have to stand there. When I have a walk symbol, or it's safe for me to cross, and my vehicle's getting ready to turn right on red or even a right on green, and I have to wave my arms and shout, because as noted, they're looking to the left for traffic coming to impede them, not for somebody they're about to run over. As a driver, when I am driving, not walking or riding my bike. I, I know I have to consciously go. Don't forget to look right. Um, and uh, but I, I think any kind of sign it or, um, even things where if we know a pedestrian, like, button has been triggered, where there may be a flashing lights that may happen. I know, um, from turning right on rank store. I'm sorry, from onto rank store from Montecito. There is a no right turn on red that will alight when, um, to people, drivers on Montecito, if somebody has depressed the, the, um, Pedestrian cross button, there are other delays that can happen, you know, like the pedestrians start 1st, other things like that that we could take into consideration. But I really want to say, let's consider lowering these speeds. I know there's an enforcement issue. But uh, let's not consider it impossible. I think it would really help save lives and it's the number one thing in saving lives for vision 0 is a lower speed limit. Thank you for your time and your consideration today. Thank you.

[01:33:40] Chair Sally Lieber: And seeing no one else with, uh, their hands raised at this time, we'll bring it back to, uh, the committee. For uh, deliberation and to provide staff with feedback, on the countermeasures and the prioritization, uh, framework. Council member Menachek.

[01:34:09] Member Lisa Matichak: Thanks. Um, I do have a question before I get into a few comments. Regarding speed. What are the, uh, or lowering the speed limit? What are the parameters around doing that?

[01:34:28] City Traffic Engineer Lopez: Let me try to explain it. The, so you're probably referring to some recent changes to the law regarding street limits and establishing the limits. And, In, in, in all cases, an engineering and traffic survey needs to be done. What that means is we go out and collect data to determine what the free flow speed is of traffic on that corridor. Um, what the recent changes to the to the law did was allowed us to make some additional adjustments. And so, um, I think this is something that we're going to need to come back and really dive into as a specific agenda item to CTC in the future. But just, just to give you a glimpse, we, We are able to make an additional 5 mile per hour reduction in some instances. Um, so that will help in some of these locations and, and, I think we'll drop the, the speed limit to a, to a better speed limit along corridors that currently are maybe at 35. Um, drop them down to 30. So I, this is something that really needs to be, um, I think we need to give you a full presentation on this topic to really give you the, that's a bolt of the, the changes the, the changes to the law. What we actually are allowed to do. Um, and I know some of the, some of the items are not actually loud until 2024. So we'd have to explain those details to you, um, uh, in that future presentation, which I think is is necessary for all of us to educate ourselves.

[01:36:11] Unknown Speaker: Thank you. So, I'll add on, you know, what, he's referring to Assembly Bill 43, which does give um, local jurisdictions a little more leeway in terms of further lowering speed limits. But as Lorenzo says, some of these key provisions. Um, are not affected to June 30th, 2024, or uh, until there's a certain action the state takes, if they take that earlier, it could be effective earlier, but right now, 2024. But just to give you a couple quick examples and why it is, you know, one, since it's not effective to 2024 as staff, we have time to continue evaluating it, how we would apply it and come to count, so it's not urgent. But for instance, one of the ones is, when you do the traffic and speed study and you come up with the 85% tile that uses the basis for, for setting your speed limit that's enforceable. Right now, it says that you either round up to the nearest 5 miles per hour, round down, and it is a true rounding, uh, where if you're hitting 33 miles per hour, you're rounding up to 35. This law says you may choose to always round down to lowest 5 miles per hour. It does have some provisions in it, uh, that will allow you to reduce an additional 5 miles per hour, but that's very specified. It's along a designated safety corridor, which is still to be defined. What that means, and you can only have a certain percentage of your streets called a safety cord or, um, and then there's another one that has to do with adjacent to certain kinds of land uses. With high concentrations of bikes and pets. But again, they say, but that's still to be defined. So we need to watch for those rules to come out. And that'll be, that's another reason why we can't just, in the next couple months, tell you, what this means from Mountain View or how we would apply it is we have to wait for the state to take some further actions.

[01:38:11] Transportation Manager Lo: I would like to add on to that. Um, in in cases where we're able to do some traffic calming measures and, you know, reduce the speeds along some of these corridors. By implementing those measures, we're able to reduce that 85th percentile, which allows us to do our survey and lower the speeds that way. So we've done that on a couple of corridors. And, More recently, one of them is along the frontage of Grand School. That used to be a higher speed. We were able to bring that speed limit down because of the, the measures that we recently did along Castro between Armani and El Camino. And another example is along Easy Street, between Central Expressway and the 85 on wrap. I know you're well aware of a lot of the back and forth with the residents and the NTRP program along that stretch, but we were able to significantly lower the speed along that corridor. And um, that allowed us to, to actually have that speed limit enforceable. So, those are just a couple of examples where NTMP comes into play to help us address some speeding issues and and the ability to lower the speeding. Um,

[01:39:24] City Traffic Engineer Lopez: there's one more thing that I would add as well, which is that there are also areas where you're allowed a prima facie, like um, can't remember that means something in Latin, prima facie, speed limit that's slower. So for example, around schools, you're allowed to have a lower speed limit. Um, and um, uh, you know, commercial districts like Castro as well. Great,

[01:39:47] Member Lisa Matichak: thank you. That old preview, that was very helpful. I appreciate all the additional information. Um, I do agree with staff's recommendations. Um, the one thing I would add, which I kind of brought up is, you know, if there's an intersection where, um, it isn't necessarily an intersection that, um, has a lot of the, um, collisions that result, let's see, um, I forgot the term, KIS. Um, if it's not one of those, but there's a lot of collisions. I feel like we should address those because. It's traumatic for people when they get in an accident. And no matter what kind of, you know, collision it is. And I just kind of like to reduce the stress. So I would add like the 237 middle field one where there's a lot of collisions. Thanks.

[01:40:52] Chair Sally Lieber: Council member committee.

[01:40:54] Member Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. So, um, I also support, um, staff's recommendations for question one and question two. Would say the only additional comments that I would add are, at least on our vision 0 city webpage. I think it would be really great if we could kind of also given staff's comments, find a way to solicit community feedback, whether it's just like putting, you know, a link or a brief survey, something, so we can get more, um, detailed and specific feedback, then I think, um, the Zoom meeting was able to provide. And then it can kind of be an evergreen space where people can look us up and then add any comments. Um, I would also say, um, my question earlier about the the bike boulevard and maybe like the preferred roots. I think that'd also be great for us to put on our vision 0 site. Um, you know, I don't know if, again, that's a partnership that we can have with our Silicon Valley bike coalition and community members. But I think, um, you know, encouraging the safest routes for our communities, the most important. And if we're trying to create all this additional infrastructure, we really want to make sure that people know those ways to go. And I think it would be great too, for people to be able to provide feedback on the usage of those bike boulevards. You know, I think something that we discover is sometimes the preferred route is not necessarily the most direct. And so, um, you know, people might, you continue to use whatever's direct. How do we show them, whether it's, you know, through our kind of, um, how we time our lights, right? That this could be an efficient and effective way for people to get around. Um, so I think those are, um, my my main comments. Um, but I do think, um, like this bike to whenever month could also be an opportunity for us to do more education about our vision 0 program. I'm not sure that the community always knows about all the different resources and things we're doing. And I'm really excited to hear about Caltran's commitment. Um, and that we were able to thank you to our wonderful staff, but we were able to get Caltrans to commit to that $3000000 I know that public works is always so crafty and I really want to congratulate and thank all of you because that's no small feat. To do. So thank you. Thanks

[01:43:26] Chair Sally Lieber: so much. And I also agree with, uh, staffs, uh, approach, um, on the countermeasures and the local road safety plan. Um, I would like to see us kind of build in. Um, the double efforts, um, the stops at the intersections to go ahead and do paint, um, where it's appropriate as, as we wait for, um, other measures to, uh, to come along. And one thing that, um, I've been really struck by going through the, the staff report for today as well as the, The March 30th report was that I don't think that anyone in Mountain View is focused on how many collisions there actually are. And, and I wonder, um, you know, how we could provide some kind of, uh, information that's really accessible to people or signage, around, um, just the, the number of collisions, and if we could move the, uh, the near misses or the collisions, um, reporting, Uh, on the ask Mountain View page, I think you have to dig down a number of levels to get to it, to report. And, um, I, so I think that folks aren't aware that that exists, and that may impact on the, the data that we're seeing through it. Um, but overall, I think just, People don't understand how many collisions there, there really are, and I think that, or I hope that they would drive, uh, differently if they were aware of that. Um, I've seen the, The little yard sign vision 0 signs, um, on El Camino. It was. Completely, couldn't see what it said other than just very quickly, vision zero. Um, but I'm, I'm wondering about using the banner across El Camino. If that would be a possibility, and, um, what other creative ways that there might be out there to, uh, get the, get the word out. Um, to slow down and uh, prevent collisions and prevent really tragic circumstances, um, from happening. Um, both for, for youth that are trying to get to school, but also, uh, I noticed that a lot of the, uh, collisions around town, um, are involving seniors that are trying to cross the road, and, and it's, it's very difficult in a lot of circumstances to do that. Um, Even on streets like Shoreline, if you press the, the button to activate the flashing lights in the street, um, many drivers will completely ignore the flashing lights and just continue it, really high rates of speed in the same on, on rain store. So, Maybe we could have some concentrated enforcement there that would start to, the word would start to get out in a viral way that, Um, hey, if you blow through one of these, these intersections, you will get a ticket. Um, So those are just the comments that, that I have. I really appreciate, um, staff's work on this and, um, at the previous session. Um, I was there and I saw how well that staff did with it, and I know it's been a really trying time, and and that for all of us, there isn't a single day that goes by without thinking about Andre Rutana in his family and his classmates, and, um, and so I really appreciate how much effort staff was putting into this before, and, and continues to put in. It's, it's very much appreciated. Um, so I don't know if that's enough feedback or if there are other things that, Ms. Cameron, that you'd like us to, especially focus on. No,

[01:48:13] Public Works Director Cameron: I think your feedback was very helpful. Thank you.

7.1 Staff Comments

[01:48:16] Chair Sally Lieber: Well, thank you so much for all the presentations, and, um, the additional comments, and we'll be able to go on now to, uh, item 7, the council staff and committee reports and item 7.one for the staff comments, Miss Cameron. Thank

[01:48:37] Public Works Director Cameron: you. We do have a couple comments, sort of reports to provide. Uh, on status, I will start and then I'm going to invite, um, Lorenzo to provide a 2nd staff report. Uh, what I wanted to report out on is, I'm sure when you read the minutes, you noted how at your last meeting, you were reviewing the residential parking permit program, potential changes, and the next step was for us to take that to city council for approval. There are a couple reasons why we have not made it to city council yet. One has to do with Cheshire workload and vacancies and uh, there were still um, a series of steps that we would have to take before we go to council to work through, including changing the fee structure in a way that would allow for the pilot program we were discussing, which were the free, you know, which was the, the, the parking permits being provided for free. And um, so that was one of them. Another one as we kind of looked at it. We realized that there was still sort of a, maybe a policy question that has to do with implementing it that we didn't fully think out. And we're kind of appreciate having a little bit of time over the summer recess to delve back into this. And we may find that it's desirable to come back to you in the fall. To bring that policy question forward, to have it thought out a little bit more before we bring forward a change to the residual parking permit program to the council. I will note that we are monitoring carefully whether we're getting inquiries about the program, whether we're getting people saying they, they're concerned and feel we need it. Uh, I think we've still been in the pandemic, demic mode that we just, we're not getting those kind of inquiries or complaints right now. It's not to say that, um, As things change. We don't want to be prepared for them. So I just wanted to let you know why you haven't seen it come to council. We are going to turn our attention on it again over the summer. And if we do find that, you know, the issue we're trying to work through does require a little more discussion and policy direction, we're going to 1st come back to you before we go to council. With that, um, I'd like to ask Lorenzo to provide you an update our on our in- neighborhood traffic management program, including the street that's currently under study.

[01:51:11] Transportation Manager Lo: Thank you, God. Um, as, as I think many of you are aware, um, We've, we've been communicating with some of the residents along Latham Street. And it has come in, uh, or anti-lequest has come in along Latham. And we, We collected a lot of data. We're wrapping that up. Actually, we're in the, We've wrapped that up. We're in the process of analyzing the data now. And If if the corridor does qualify, where portions of the court are do qualify for NTMP, we, um, will be scheduling a neighborhood meeting, and it's looking like it, it is qualifying, just some preliminary, preliminary looks up at the data. Um, so the neighborhood meeting will be scheduled, and then we will bring it to, uh, you know, once the results of the neighborhood postcard surveys go out. And and or come back to us will come to you probably in the fall for uh, approval. So, um, stay tuned. We plan to come back and bring Latham Street to you. In the fall. Thank you. Thank you We'll

8. ADJOURNMENT

[01:52:21] Chair Sally Lieber: go on to item 7.2. Uh, which is committee comments. Do any committee members have comments that they'd like to make? Okay, seeing none. Um, we are ready to adjourn. And I want to thank everyone for joining us, and I see that we still have attendees here, which is fantastic, and thanks to staff for such great information, and and so well delivered. Our next council transportation committee will be in the fall with a date to be determined. And we'll go ahead and call this meeting adjourned at 8.25 PM. Thank you so much.

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