May 13, 2025 Joint Meeting of Mountain View City Council and Shoreline Regional Park Community

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Agenda

• 1. CLOSED SESSION ANNOUNCEMENT (OPEN SESSION): Mayor Kamei convenes the meeting and announces the closed session item. (00:01:10)
• 2.1 Conference with Legal Counsel - Initiation of litigation: City Attorney announces the closed session item. The Council recesses to closed session. (00:01:44)
• 1. CALL TO ORDER/PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE/ROLL CALL: Regular session begins with the Pledge of Allegiance and Roll Call. (01:03:38)
• 2. CLOSED SESSION REPORT: City Attorney reports no reportable action was taken in closed session. (01:04:34)
• 3.1 Affordable Housing Month Proclamation: Mayor presents proclamation to representatives from Jamboree Housing and MV Community Land Trust. (01:04:47)
• 3.2 Mental Health Awareness Month Proclamation: Mayor presents proclamation to representatives from Momentum for Health and Palo Alto University. (01:11:47)
• 4. CONSENT CALENDAR: Council considers consent items. Public comment covers both Consent and Oral Communications. Item 4.12 is pulled for discussion and voted on separately. (01:21:30)
• 5. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC ON NONAGENDIZED ITEMS: Public comments for this item were heard during the Consent Calendar public comment period. (02:04:30)
• 6.1 AB 481 Military Equipment Annual Report and Policy Adoption: Presentation by Police Chief Canfield on military equipment inventory and usage policy renewal. (02:04:47)
• 7.1 Federal Fiscal Year 2025-30 Consolidated Plan and Fiscal Year 2025-26 Annual Action Plan: Public hearing and adoption of federal housing and community development grant funding plans. (02:30:00)
• 8.1 Recommended Fiscal Year 2025-26 through Fiscal Year 2029-30 Capital Improvement Program: Presentation and approval of the five-year Capital Improvement Program. (03:00:33)
• 9. COUNCIL, STAFF/COMMITTEE REPORTS: Councilmembers provide reports on committee activities and community events. (03:30:00)
• 10. ADJOURNMENT: Meeting adjourned in memory of a community member. (03:35:35)

Transcript

1. CLOSED SESSION ANNOUNCEMENT (OPEN SESSION)

[00:01:12] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Good evening everyone, thank you for joining us for closed session. City Attorney Logue will make a closed session announcement, and then we will welcome public comment on the item listed for closed session.

[00:01:24] City Attorney Jennifer Logue: Good evening Mayor and Councilmembers. There is one item on this evening's closed session agenda. Item 2.1 is a conference with legal counsel regarding one item of anticipated litigation, pursuant to Government Code Section 54956.9. Thank you.

[00:01:43] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Great. Thank you.

2.1 Conference with Legal Counsel - Initiation of litigation

[00:01:44] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Would any member of the public joining us virtually or in person like to provide comment on the closed session item listed on tonight's agenda? If so, please click the raise hand button in Zoom or submit a speaker card to the assistant City Clerk.

[00:01:58] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: I am not seeing any in-person speakers or hands raised, so we will close the public comment and move to closed session.

1. CALL TO ORDER/PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE/ROLL CALL

[01:04:18] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Good evening and welcome to the Mountain View City Council meeting of Tuesday, April 13th, 2021. This meeting is now called to order.

[01:04:25] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Can we please begin with the Pledge of Allegiance? Councilmember Clark, would you lead us?

[01:04:30] Councilmember Chris Clark: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

2. CLOSED SESSION REPORT

[01:04:50] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: All right. Welcome back, everyone. We are resuming our meeting. I'll turn it over to the City Attorney for a report out of closed session.

[01:04:55] City Attorney Jennifer Logue: Thank you, Mayor. The City Council met in closed session regarding items 1.1 and 1.2 on the closed session agenda. Council provided direction to staff and no reportable action was taken.

[01:04:59] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Thank you.

3.2 Mental Health Awareness Month Proclamation

[01:11:00] Councilmember Lucas Ramirez: Thank you to all our teachers and to the district for that presentation. That concludes my comments.

3.1 Affordable Housing Month Proclamation

[01:11:03] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Good evening, everyone. We are back from closed session. There's no reportable action from our closed session, and we are going to start with presentations. Our first presentation tonight is a proclamation for Affordable Housing Month. I'm going to turn it over to Vice Mayor Ramos to read the proclamation.

3.2 Mental Health Awareness Month Proclamation

[01:11:15] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Thank you, Councilmember Ramirez. This concludes Item 3.1. Moving on to Item 3.2, which is the Mental Health Awareness Month Proclamation. This proclamation is co-sponsored by Vice Mayor Ramos and myself. And so I'd like to ask Vice Mayor Ramos if she'd like to share some opening comments.

3.1 Affordable Housing Month Proclamation

[01:11:20] Councilmember Emily Ramos: Thank you, Mayor Kamei. Whereas, Silicon Valley at Home, SV@Home, is a regional organization that works with partners to increase the supply of housing in Silicon Valley that is affordable to all people;

[01:11:32] Councilmember Emily Ramos: and whereas, housing afford- affordability is critical for the health and vitality of all people in Mountain View and the broader Silicon Valley community; and whereas, everyone should have the opportunity to live in a safe, healthy, and affordable home;

3.2 Mental Health Awareness Month Proclamation

[01:11:40] Councilmember Emily Ramos: Thank you, Mayor. And thank you for co-sponsoring this with me. Mental health is something that affects all of us, either directly or through our loved ones. Especially during this pandemic, we have seen the importance of supporting one another and having resources available.

3.1 Affordable Housing Month Proclamation

[01:11:43] Councilmember Emily Ramos: and whereas, local government, nonprofit organizations, businesses, and community members must work together to address the regional housing crisis;

3.2 Mental Health Awareness Month Proclamation

[01:12:00] Councilmember Emily Ramos: I'm really glad that we're recognizing this month and the great organizations that do this work in our community and I look forward to hearing from our guests.

[01:12:15] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Thank you, Vice Mayor. I will now read the proclamation. Whereas, mental health is essential to everyone's overall health and well-being; and whereas, all people experience times of difficulty and stress in their lives; and whereas, mental health conditions are real and prevalent in our nation.

[01:12:45] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: And whereas, with early and effective treatment, those with mental health conditions can recover and lead full, productive lives; and whereas, each business, school, government agency, healthcare provider, organization, and citizen has a responsibility to promote mental wellness and support prevention efforts.

[01:13:25] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Now, therefore, I, Ellen Kamei, Mayor of the City of Mountain View, do hereby proclaim the month of May 2021 as Mental Health Awareness Month in the City of Mountain View. And I'd like to invite our guests to join us today. We have Vic Ojakian from NAMI Santa Clara County and Marsha Deslauriers from CHAC. Vic, would you like to start?

[01:14:00] Vic Ojakian: Thank you, Mayor Kamei and Vice Mayor Ramos and the rest of the Council. My name is Vic Ojakian, and I'm the Board President for NAMI Santa Clara County. We are so appreciative of this recognition. NAMI provides support, education, and advocacy for those living with mental illness and their families.

[01:14:45] Vic Ojakian: This past year has been incredibly challenging, and we've seen a significant increase in the need for our services. Proclamations like this help reduce the stigma and let people know that help is available. Thank you for your support of our community's mental health.

[01:15:20] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Thank you, Vic. And now Marsha.

[01:15:30] Marsha Deslauriers: Thank you, Mayor and Council. I'm Marsha Deslauriers, Executive Director of CHAC, the Community Health Awareness Council. We have been serving Mountain View and the surrounding communities for nearly 50 years, providing mental health services in schools and through our clinic.

[01:16:15] Marsha Deslauriers: We have seen firsthand the toll the pandemic has taken on our youth and families. We are committed to ensuring that no one has to face these challenges alone. We're grateful to the City of Mountain View for its long-standing partnership and for highlighting the importance of mental health awareness. Thank you.

[01:17:05] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Thank you both for the incredible work you do. I'll open it up to Council for any comments. Councilmember Showalter?

[01:17:20] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Thank you. I just wanted to express my deep gratitude to both NAMI and CHAC. The work you do is life-saving, literally. And during this year of isolation, it's been more important than ever. I also want to remind everyone that if you're struggling, please reach out. There are people who care and resources available. Thank you, Mayor, for bringing this forward.

[01:18:10] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Thank you. Councilmember Hicks?

[01:18:20] Councilmember Alison Hicks: Thank you, Mayor. I also want to thank our guests. I'm particularly interested in the school-based services CHAC provides. Our children have been through so much change and uncertainty, and having that support in the schools is vital. Thank you for your dedication to our community's well-being.

[01:19:10] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Councilmember Clark?

[01:19:20] Councilmember Chris Clark: Thanks. Just a quick thank you to the sponsors and to our guests. Mental health has often been in the shadows, and bringing it into the light through proclamations and public discussion is a key step in helping our residents feel supported. Thank you.

[01:20:00] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Thank you, everyone. We are so lucky to have such dedicated partners in this work. This concludes Item 3.2.

[01:20:20] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Moving on to Item 3.3, which is the Affordable Housing Week Proclamation. This proclamation is co-sponsored by Councilmembers Hicks and Ramirez. And I will turn it over to Councilmember Hicks to introduce.

[01:20:45] Councilmember Alison Hicks: Thank you, Mayor. Affordable Housing Week is a time to celebrate and recognize the importance of safe and stable homes for all members of our community. I'm honored to present this proclamation.

4. CONSENT CALENDAR

[01:43:37] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Okay, good evening, everyone. Welcome to the joint meeting of the Mountain View City Council and the Shoreline Regional Park Community of May 13th, 2025. Please stand and join me in the pledge of allegiance.

[01:44:10] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Great. Thank you very much. Our Assistant City Clerk will take attendance by roll call.

[01:44:14] City Clerk Heather Glaser: Councilmember Clark?

[01:44:16] Councilmember Chris Clark: Here.

[01:44:17] City Clerk Heather Glaser: Councilmember Hicks?

[01:44:18] Councilmember Alison Hicks: Here.

[01:44:19] City Clerk Heather Glaser: Councilmember McAlister?

[01:44:19] Councilmember John McAlister: Here.

[01:44:21] City Clerk Heather Glaser: Councilmember Ramirez?

[01:44:22] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: He is here somewhere.

[01:44:24] City Clerk Heather Glaser: Councilmember Showalter?

[01:44:25] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Here.

[01:44:26] City Clerk Heather Glaser: Vice Mayor Ramos?

[01:44:27] Councilmember Emily Ramos: Here.

[01:44:28] City Clerk Heather Glaser: Mayor Kamei?

[01:44:30] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Here. Thank you.

[01:44:33] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. We'll move on to item 2, our closed session report. City Attorney Logue, do you have a city, do you have a closed session report?

[01:44:40] City Attorney Jennifer Logue: No reportable action was taken in closed session this evening. Thank you.

[01:44:46] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Great. Thank you. So we'll move on to item 3, our presentations. Please note, these are presentations only. The City Council will not take any action. Public comment will occur after the presentation items, so if you'd like to speak on either of these items in person, please submit a blue speaker card to the Assistant City Clerk now or you can raise your hand in Zoom.

[01:45:08] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: So the first item we'll be celebrating is affordable housing month, and we will have Spanish translation services available for this item. We'll now hear from our interpreter.

[01:45:20] Public Speaker: Para las personas que necesitan interpretación en persona, tenemos auriculares disponibles. Hoy ofreceremos interpretación en persona y de manera virtual. Para aquellos que necesiten interpretación mediante Zoom, favor de hacer clic en el botón de interpretación y después elija el idioma de su preferencia. También estamos ofreciendo interpretación durante los comentarios públicos en persona y virtuales. Las personas que necesiten interpretación consecuente, por favor, hablen en bloques de tres oraciones, luego tomen una pausa para que nosotros podamos interpretar y así se interpreten consecuentemente todas sus ideas.

[01:45:58] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Great. Thank you. We're happy to be joined this evening by two people representing two different organizations. First we have Roger Kinoshita, the Senior Vice President of Jamboree Housing, and Olga Melo, the co-founder of the Mountain View Community Land Trust, to accept this proclamation. So I'll invite both of them to join me at the lectern.

[01:46:38] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Okay. So no te preocupes as they both say the same thing. So before I present I'll just read some highlights of our proclamation. So whereas each year in May, which is designated as Affordable Housing Month, which is organized and led by SV@Home, and the regional theme for Santa Clara County for 2025 is Strength in Housing, recognizing that our well-being is tied to the well-being of our neighbors and the importance of realizing stable neighborhoods for whole communities in addition to creating affordable homes for families and households.

[01:47:18] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: And whereas affordable housing is a basic human right, and yet each year thousands of Silicon Valley families and individuals struggle to find an affordable home in one of the most expensive housing markets in the nation, and affordable housing is an essential building block for stable families, resilient communities, and an opportunity for residents to thrive, making our community healthy, more inclusive, and prosperous.

[01:47:46] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: And we'll get into some specifics about both of your organizations. So whereas Jamboree Housing partnered with the City to transform our Crestview Hotel into the Heartwood Apartments, 49 unit permanent supportive housing community, which serve youth transitioning out of foster care and families at risk of homelessness by providing services and a safe, secure place to call home.

[01:48:07] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: And the success of the Heartwood Apartments was made possible through a collaborative and innovative partnership between the city, the Santa Clara County Office of Supportive Housing, the Santa Clara County Housing Authority, and the federal Department of Housing and Urban Development, and the California Department of Housing and Community Development, and Jamboree Housing, therefore creating the first hotel conversion project to address the needs of the most vulnerable residents in the city.

[01:48:34] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: And whereas the Mountain View Community Land Trust has established itself as the first Community Land Trust in Mountain View committed to preserving existing housing units for communities vulnerable to displacement.

[01:48:45] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: And the Mountain View Community Land Trust is a member of the city's Community Ownership Action Plan Advisory Committee to help innovative housing options that are not currently provided by the housing market and to implement models that provide permanent affordability and active roles for tenants and community members in shared governance and stewardship.

[01:49:03] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Now therefore I, Ellen Kamei, Mayor of the city of Mountain View, along with my colleagues on the City Council, do hereby proclaim the month of May as Affordable Housing Month in the city of Mountain View and call upon members of our community and regional efforts led by SV@Home, who I see here in the audience too, to continue supporting affordable housing and inclusive, diverse communities, to recognize the successful efforts of the city and its dedicated community partners delivering innovative housing solutions, and to present this proclamation to both Jamboree Housing and the Community Land Trust.

[01:49:39] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: So before I present the proclamations, I wanted to give you both an opportunity to share a few words. So we'll start with Jamboree Housing and turn it over to you. Great, thank you.

[01:49:58] Roger Kinoshita, Senior Vice President of Jamboree Housing: Thank you very much. Once again, my name is Roger Kinoshita with Jamboree Housing. Thank you very much, Mayor and City Council members, for this incredible honor. I'm accepting this on behalf of Jamboree, this proclamation during Affordable Housing Month.

[01:50:14] Roger Kinoshita, Senior Vice President of Jamboree Housing: This recognition is truly shared. This work is only possible because of the many committed partners, as mentioned, the state of California, HUD, as well as the office of supportive housing, as well and the Housing Authority.

[01:50:30] Roger Kinoshita, Senior Vice President of Jamboree Housing: But we especially want to say thank you very much to the city of Mountain View for your partnership, your bold leadership in setting new standards in California that proves cities can build housing at all income levels when there's vision, courage, and political will.

[01:50:48] Roger Kinoshita, Senior Vice President of Jamboree Housing: We're proud to be your partner in creating homes that are more than shelter. They are stepping stones to better economic, educational, and mobility outcomes. Thank you again for this recognition and we look forward to doing more in the city. Thank you.

[01:51:13] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: And now we have the Mountain View Community Land Trust, and it's going to be in both English and in Spanish. Sí, adelante.

[01:51:23] Olga Melo, Co-founder of the Mountain View Community Land Trust: Muy buenas tardes a alcaldesa Ellen Kamei, vice mayor Emily Ramos y todos los miembros del concilio y a todos los en la audiencia. Gracias. Mi nombre es Olga Melo y soy parte del comité de fideicomiso de tierras comunitarias y aceptamos con mucho entusiasmo y compromiso esta proclamación de parte de Ellen por el mes de la hispanidad, perdón, por el mes de la vivienda.

[01:52:03] Olga Melo, Co-founder of the Mountain View Community Land Trust: Este reconocimiento a nuestro trabajo es la creación del primer fideicomiso de tierras comunitarias en Mountain View. Agradecemos la confianza que nos han demostrado el liderazgo de la ciudad en nosotros y el gran apoyo que nos han brindado durante la creación del fideicomiso de tierra comunitaria el cual nació en septiembre del 2024.

[01:52:28] Olga Melo, Co-founder of the Mountain View Community Land Trust: El fideicomiso de tierra comunitaria está trabajando con la ciudad para identificar y adquirir un edificio de 15 a 20 unidades donde vive ahora y donde seguirán viviendo familias de clase trabajadora vulnerables que pueden sufrir el desplazamiento. Con esta adquisición el CLT retirará esta propiedad del mercado inmobiliario especulativo, preservará estas viviendas y mantendrá su accesibilidad a la perpetuidad.

[01:52:59] Olga Melo, Co-founder of the Mountain View Community Land Trust: Agradecemos enormemente la disposición de la ciudad de colaborar con nosotros para identificar formas innovadoras y flexibles de ofrecer vivienda accesible de forma no tradicional lo que contribuirá a asegurar el futuro de nuestra comunidad. Esperamos continuar trabajando en colaboración con ustedes y el personal de la ciudad para llevar adelante nuestro primer proyecto antes del fin del año.

[01:53:26] Olga Melo, Co-founder of the Mountain View Community Land Trust: Quiero decir que este fideicomiso de tierra comunitaria es el primero aquí en Mountain View. Creo que es una figura muy especial porque en este fideicomiso está la comunidad representada. No está liderada por otras personas que tal vez vienen con muy buenas intenciones pero en este caso es la propia comunidad tomando liderazgo, enfrentando problemas y soluciones.

[01:53:48] Olga Melo, Co-founder of the Mountain View Community Land Trust: Así es que esto es lo que nos hace únicos y creo que el trabajo más relevante es el de nuestras siete compañeras que están aquí presentes ahorita que son las que hemos llevado a cabo este trabajo con mucho amor y con mucha dedicación para mantener a nuestra comunidad firme aquí echar raíces para siempre.

[01:54:22] Olga Melo, Co-founder of the Mountain View Community Land Trust: No queremos que nos sigan desplazando. No queremos perder más tejido social. Queremos permanecer aquí. Queremos seguir viviendo en Mountain View. Queremos estar en la fotografía del futuro. Así es que vamos a luchar con muchas fuerzas con mucho amor con mucha pasión para que esto se haga una realidad.

[01:54:41] Olga Melo, Co-founder of the Mountain View Community Land Trust: Y muchas gracias al concilio porque han aceptado trabajar con nosotros hombro a hombro pero esto se requiere de mucho esfuerzo y de que se abran a cambios, a hacer cambios en la forma de cómo trabajar en este proyecto de vivienda porque eso es lo que va a hacer el cambio, que estén abiertos a las decisiones que nosotros como comunidad hagamos.

[01:55:05] Olga Melo, Co-founder of the Mountain View Community Land Trust: Y por último yo también quiero reconocer a todos los grupos de aquí de Mountain View que luchan por una vivienda digna porque no somos el único grupo, hay más grupos luchando y todos, todos nuestra misma misión es mantener a nuestra comunidad unidad. Muchísimas gracias por esta proclamación.

[01:55:30] Olga Melo, Co-founder of the Mountain View Community Land Trust: Thank you, Mayor Kamei and Vice Mayor Emily Ramos and the City Council members, as well as all the audience here. My name is Olga Melo and I am part of Mountain View's first Community Land Trust. We appreciate the confidence that city leaders have in us and the great support we have received as we formed Mountain View Community Land Trust.

[01:55:56] Olga Melo, Co-founder of the Mountain View Community Land Trust: The MVCLT is working with the city to identify and acquire a 15 to 20 unit building that currently houses and will continue to house working class families that are vulnerable to displacement. With this acquisition, MVCLT will remove the property from the speculative real estate market and preserve those homes and maintain their affordability in perpetuity.

[01:56:19] Olga Melo, Co-founder of the Mountain View Community Land Trust: We are so grateful for the city's willingness to work with us to identify innovative and flexible ways to deliver affordable housing in non-traditional ways that will help secure the future of our community. We look forward to continuing our collaboration with you and the city staff to bring our first project forward by the end of this year.

[01:56:41] Olga Melo, Co-founder of the Mountain View Community Land Trust: This is a first in Mountain View, so it's very special. Community is represented in this, not others who may not be as interested as we are. Our community has problems, but we also have the solutions. So we're here to also recognize our partners who are here with us tonight who have worked tirelessly with love and dedication. We are firmly here with roots. All groups as well I'd like to recognize all their hard work because they all are putting in the same effort and have the same goal. Thanks again to everyone.

[01:57:22] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Okay, so we will do the proclamations and we'll invite our council to stand and our recipients to stand here. And I also want to encourage the other members of the CLT, los otros miembros, vente por favor para tomar un foto. Yeah, so we'll all take a photo together.

[01:57:48] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Jamboree folks, please join as well. I know it's a group effort. And also want to make sure we shout out our housing staff with the city who I know does so much in collaboration.

[01:58:03] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: just do it Don't worry about that Okay, and we have one other proclamation that we're celebrating, which is wonderful, because it's always good for my mental health to talk about housing, and now we get to recognize mental health awareness month. We're happy to be joined this evening by David Minetta, our CEO of Momentum for how to accept this proclamation. So, I don't see David. Okay, just making sure, I was like, It's all right, but you're accepting on behalf of momentum. Yes, I do.

[01:59:15] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Okay, wonderful. Thank you. And, um, I have also with us our, um, David Minetta will be stepping, um, down in a couple of weeks. Yeah. Another month, so we have our... interim, our, not, what am I saying, our brand new... Everyone's welcome to the party. Come on, get over here. And I, it's our new, I'm sitting in CEO Michael Skates. Okay, yeah, okay, on the job now, two days. What a way to welcome you. Okay, perfect. Yes. Yes. And I see, speaking of people who will be celebrating soon, I see our president of Palo Alto University, so I want to invite her too, as well, to come down, to accept. And yes, your team, please. We get to go to your party tomorrow. Okay, wonderful. Yes. Yes. Okay. So, um, thank you to both of your organizations for, um, we're able to celebrate them for, um, mental health awareness month. So, whereas mental health is essential to the overall health and well-being of individuals, families, communities, schools, and businesses, and whereas one in 5 adults, and one in 6 youth in the United States will experience a mental health condition at any given time, according to the National Alliance, on mental illness, and whereas it is vital to encourage relatives, friends, coworkers, and community members to recognize the signs of mental health conditions, and guide those in need, to appropriate services, and support. And whereas education and raising awareness are effective ways to enable early response to mental health conditions and reduce the devastating impacts they can create on individuals and the community. And whereas the city of Mountain View, with the guidance of our council use services committee continues to strengthen mental health resiliency for our teens, through such programs as the teen wellness retreat, monthly wellness focus workshops, and wellness events supported by the youth advisory committee. And whereas the city of Mountain View is dedicated to offering mental health and emotional wellbeing and resiliency resources to the workforce, including wellness seminars and events, citywide wellness challenges and incentives, wellness break stations with cognitive enrichment activities, access to enhanced employee assistance program, and behavioral health benefits, and vital tools, flexible schedules, and embracing a culture that supports mental health and emotional wellbeing. Now, therefore, I, Ellen Kumay, mayor of the city of Mountain View, along with my colleagues on the city council, to hereby proclaim the month of May as a mental health awareness month. So I'll start with momentum, and if you would like to say a few words, either of you, and that would be great. Thank you.

[02:01:54] Michael Skates: Good evening, and thank you again to the city of Mountain View for this award. Thank you so much. On behalf of momentum for health and our entire trust team who's here. Yes, you are. They were very busy. Yes, our trusted trust is our trusted response, urgent support team that has been supporting this community now for, I think it's been almost close to two years, right? And this is the low level response team that comes out to, uh, that does not have law enforcement with them. Coming out to help with any kind of mental health, urgent need in the community. So we're there to provide any kind of support, linkages, for any family members, community members, merchants, anyone that needs some assistants. We're there to support them 24/7. So, thank you so much for this. And I want to thank Mountain View for your yielding support of this program. And the city's commitment to mental health, the needs of this community. We marvel at the ongoing efforts and

[02:03:05] Michael Skates: advocacy for all the residents of your fine city, especially those without a voice, who can feel they are invisible in our community, that are committed, and we are committed, as well, in helping to support them in a dignified manner. So, thank you very much. And I would like to get my trust team up here just so that you guys can see them. And I'm so happy that you're here to... Give awareness..

[02:03:40] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Wonderful. And we're so fortunate to have a momentum for hell in Mountain View with a location. Would you like to introduce yourself since it's your second day? Might as well just put you... Might as well just put you on the spot and introduce you to our wonderful community.

[02:03:55] Michael Skates: Hi, good evening, everyone. My name is

5. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC ON NONAGENDIZED ITEMS

[02:04:00] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Next, we move on to Item 5, Oral Communications from the Public on non-agendized items. This is an opportunity for members of the public to address the City Council on items that are not on tonight's agenda. Each speaker will have up to three minutes to speak. We do have one speaker in person this evening. Please come forward.

[02:04:24] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Good evening.

[02:04:25] Public Speaker: Good evening.

[02:04:27] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: It's good to see you.

[02:04:28] Public Speaker: Good to see you too.

[02:04:30] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: We have in Mountain View, Palo Alto University, and with a, I guess still quite a new location. Yeah, I think so. It's right here downtown. And I'd love for you to share a little bit and...

[02:04:43] Public Speaker: Thank you so much. Thank you so much, Mayor. Thank you so much to the City of Mountain View for the opportunity to share. My name is Dr. Kimberly Hiroto, and I am the Director of the Gronowski Center at Palo Alto University.

6.1 AB 481 Military Equipment Annual Report and Policy Adoption

[02:04:47] Marsha Deslauriers: to the Council. We're very, very honored. You know several years ago when we opened our Mountain View campus, we were so excited to have a physical presence in this part of the county, and we're just thrilled that it has been such a wonderful experience. Our students love being in Mountain View. So that's a - that's a good thing.

5. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC ON NONAGENDIZED ITEMS

[02:04:55] Public Speaker: We are a community clinic located at 330 Castro Street, right here in downtown Mountain View. And we're really excited to be here just to share a little bit about what we do.

6.1 AB 481 Military Equipment Annual Report and Policy Adoption

[02:05:05] Marsha Deslauriers: For those of you who don't know, we provide graduate, mostly graduate education in mental health counseling starting in the fall social work, and clinical psychology. And we - in California it's very important to understand that the private non-profit universities like PAU graduate 90% of the mental health counselors and clinical psychologists in the state.

[02:05:28] Marsha Deslauriers: So we provide a very big service in terms of our - of addressing the workforce and these wonderful agencies like Momentum and so many others that that are supported - are wonderful training grounds for our students and our students through that process provide service to the community. We do have a clinic, our community clinic is just down the street on Castro. We serve a - almost 500 clients a year and we're just so honored to be in Mountain View and thank you very much for this honor. Thank you all.

[02:06:01] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Wonderful, well thank you both for being here. And so we'll just take a quick photo. If there's anyone else from your teams that you would like to invite to join the photo please do, and I'll invite my council colleagues to stand.

[02:06:57] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. And now, um, would any member of the Council like to say a few words? I am not seeing - oh, Councilmember McAlister.

[02:07:09] Councilmember John McAlister: Uh, I am really glad to see the Community Land Trust, those folks come along. I've been advocating for over 10 years that the city or whoever should be start buying - should start buying property and, uh, using it for Mountain View. We - that - it's a much less ex- it's less expensive to buy affordable housing, and once we own that housing, we can use it for whatever needs are appropriate.

[02:07:28] Councilmember John McAlister: So I'm glad anytime that we are engaged in a process where we are taking property, bringing it to the use of Mountain View, allowing us to control our future, uh, at a much lower cost, almost 50% cheaper than buying something new. I'm all for it and I'm so proud that they are doing that in the city and, uh, look forward to more projects like it.

[02:07:56] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. All right, I am seeing no other colleagues wishing to speak, so I'll open it up to public comment, uh, for our presentation items. Would any member of the public joining us virtually or in person like to provide comment on the presentation items listed on the agenda?

[02:08:17] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Yeah, it's not showing in the queue. Is that you, Corey? Okay. All right. Corey Wolbach with SV at Home.

[02:08:30] Public Speaker Corey Wolbach: Hi, good evening. Um, Honorable Mayor Kamei, Vice Mayor Ramos, Councilmembers, great to see you. Uh, my name is Corey Wolbach, I'm the civic leadership manager at SV@Home or Silicon Valley at Home. Uh, SV@Home is a local non-profit that advocates for evidence-based solutions to meet the housing needs of all our residents.

[02:08:51] Public Speaker Corey Wolbach: Our work focuses on policy solutions that create new affordable housing, preserve our existing affordable housing, and protect our most vulnerable residents from housing instability throughout Santa Clara County. We also prioritize community education and strengthening grassroots organization and leadership, as we believe that empowering communities to raise their voices, uh, and drive meaningful change is important to solving our housing problems.

[02:09:19] Public Speaker Corey Wolbach: So, uh, want - I want to say thank you again, uh, to coun- the entire Council and the city staff for inviting us to participate in affordable housing month and for your wonderful proclamation, uh, and for your commitment to advancing affordable housing here in Mountain View. We have an engaging lineup of events throughout May, hosted by SV@Home and our partners.

[02:09:46] Public Speaker Corey Wolbach: We encourage you to visit siliconvalleyathome.org/events to explore the exciting programs happening here in Mountain View and across the county, in person and online. I also want to add that, uh, the city's ongoing implementation of the sixth cycle housing element is a great step in the right direction. Reducing barriers to affordable housing and supporting tenant protections, innovative solutions, and affirmatively furthering fair housing right here in Mountain View. And we commend Mountain View for its leadership.

[02:10:16] Public Speaker Corey Wolbach: The need remains great; we know that nearly half of the county's renters - and renter households - remain cost-burdened, and your continued leadership in supporting and expanding affordable housing is essential. This year, as you mentioned before, our theme for Affordable Housing Month is 'Strength in Housing', and we try to remind ourselves that housing is not just a building, it is the foundation of a strong community.

[02:10:40] Public Speaker Corey Wolbach: By investing in affordable housing, we are securing the future and well-being of all of our residents. And Affordable Housing Month is more than a celebration, it is part of a movement, and by dedicating this entire month we hope to bring people together to strengthen our shared commitment to real solutions for homelessness, rent burden, and housing insecurity.

[02:11:02] Public Speaker Corey Wolbach: There is strength in coming together, strength in our community, and strength in housing. Lasting change happens when we work together. So thank you again, we invite you to join us in imagining a future where everybody in our community has a safe, stable, and affordable home. And thank you again for your partnership in Affordable Housing Month.

[02:11:16] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Thank you, and thank you to SV at Home for all they do to help us celebrate, um, Affordable Housing Month. All right, let's see. Is there any other - was that - no. Okay. So I believe that closes, uh, public comment, so we'll move on to Item 4, which is our Consent Calendar.

[02:11:41] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: These items will be approved by one motion unless any member of the Council wishes to pull an item for individual consideration. If an item is pulled from the Consent Calendar, it will be considered separately following approval of the balance of the Consent Calendar. If you'd like to speak on these items or the next item, oral communications on non-agenda items in person, please submit a blue speaker card to the Assistant City Clerk now. Would any member of the Council like to pull an item? Councilmember Hicks.

[02:12:00] Councilmember Alison Hicks: So I could either pull this one or just speak on it, but I wanted to talk a little about 4.7.

[02:12:11] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Okay, why don't I go through the rest of the queue and then we can see how you feel. Councilmember Ramirez.

[02:12:14] Councilmember Lucas Ramirez: Thank you, Mayor. I'd like to pull 4.12.

[02:12:22] Councilmember Pat Showalter: I just have a few comments to make.

[02:12:26] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Okay. All right. So why don't - Councilmember McAlister.

[02:12:28] Councilmember John McAlister: I'd just like to comment on 4.13.

[02:12:34] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Okay. So thank you. Let me circle back. Councilmember Hicks, would you like to pull that item or would you like to comment?

[02:12:41] Councilmember Alison Hicks: I can just comment.

[02:12:43] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Okay, so why don't we start with comments with Councilmember Hicks, and then we can go comments with Councilmember Showalter, and then we'll do comments from Councilmember McAlister. Does that sound right? And then we have the pulled item 4.12 from Councilmember Ramirez. Is that okay? Okay.

[02:12:57] Councilmember Alison Hicks: So, 4.7 is Council Report: Public Safety Building Design, etc. I'm not going to read the full title. Um, I just want to continue advocating - I've done it in the past - but for more value engineering on this particular project. I'm a little worried about es- the escalating price, and, um, you know, one example of things we could be thinking about is, um, that I've heard that Silicon Valley Clean Energy bought an office at, kind of, fire-sale prices for $12 million, an office.

[02:13:36] Councilmember Alison Hicks: And so perhaps a better option than reserving, after we finish building the public safety building, um, there's additional land for future, um, public office, perhaps, you know, we - we could be selling off that land and, um, buying an already-built office. I think there are multiple - as we see the price of this escalate - I think there are multiple opportunities for value engineering and I'd like to continue to look at those.

[02:14:06] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. Councilmember Showalter.

[02:14:09] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Yes, um, I wanted to comment on 4.3, 'The Preservation of City Records.' And, um, I just wanted to say that, um, this is - this is something that we think of in terms of, um, uh, cutting back on paper. But it's not just cutting back on paper, it's also making sure that our records are available if there's some sort of natural disaster, such as a flood or a fire.

[02:14:40] Councilmember Pat Showalter: I know for instance in, um, Colorado, uh, there was a - a major flood that - fire that went through Boulder and they - they burned up, you know, all - all of the records on site. And the ones that were offsite were really what saved the day in being able to resurrect their water and sewer system. So I just wanted to mention that this is important from not just a paper retention, uh, point of view, but - but from a disaster preparedness point of view as well.

[02:15:12] Councilmember Pat Showalter: So. And then the other thing I want to talk about was 4.13, um, the recycled water, uh, item. We have gotten to the point now where, um, uh, we are about to, uh, okay the contracts. And, um, uh, this is something that staff, I know, has been working on for more than 10 years and it's just a really wonderful addition to our water system.

[02:15:40] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Um, this is exactly what we should be doing to prepare for the expected fluctuations we'll see in - in the snowpack. This is an example of right-sizing the quality of water for the use of the water. So this recycled water isn't going to be used for drinking; it's going to be used for things like irrigating plants, flushing toilets, and cooling towers. And then we can save the water that we import from the mountains, um, for - for drinking. So I just want to, uh, to bring this to everybody's attention and, um, it's - it's a great project. Thank you.

[02:16:18] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. Councilmember McAlister.

[02:16:21] Councilmember John McAlister: Yeah, I'd like to, um, agree with Councilmember Showalter about all the great benefits of this project. Uh, the reason I'm bringing this up, I want to point out that this first came to Council in 2017. The cost of doing this was $20 million. Through delay or, uh, priorities, now it's closer to $60 million to do the - the work that should have been done long time ago.

[02:16:47] Councilmember John McAlister: And this is one of those projects, we - we've gone through a couple of droughts and this is the type of projects where it will help us recycle, save, re- repurpose water, which we should be doing all along. And it's part of our infrastructure that I think we've been neglecting over these all these years is that we don't pay enough attention to the necessities that this is going to provide or the luxury of being able to divert water from one point to another.

[02:17:14] Councilmember John McAlister: Uh, we're still not to the place where it's potable water; it's enhanced water to get through this, uh, advanced water system plant. And, uh, we need to continue to stay on this course. We're cons- right now we're pro- we're also looking at putting in piping to get that water over to the south of 101, which is very important so that it's a broader use. And as we increase the water that we're able to enhance, um, the more demand will possibly come along.

[02:17:43] Councilmember John McAlister: And so yes, I'm glad it's going. I think Palo Alto was working on this contract, uh, recently, and we need to do more projects like this. We need to be more proactive in doing items that increase our maintenance and our, um, uh, infrastructure that will be a benefit for the whole city. So I'm very happy to see this going and I will continue to look forward to seeing this thing get done hopefully soon. Thank you.

[02:18:08] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. Um, so that ends, um, comments. Uh, we have a pulled item, Item 4.12. Uh, may I - I will do... but do we have a motion? Yeah, so you want to make a motion, you want to have the public comment...

[02:18:30] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Can I get a motion on the balance? Sorry, I just wanted to make sure I...

[02:18:32] City Clerk Heather Glaser: Mayor, we have a public comment.

[02:18:34] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Got it. All right, so I have a motion and a second, and we'll take public comment from Bruce England.

[02:18:51] Public Speaker Bruce England: Sorry, uh, unmute, uh, took some time to show up. Uh, Bruce England, Whisman Station Drive. I have three very quick comments on some of these items. Uh, on 4.3 about the preservation and destruction of city records, as you probably know, um, a lot of us out in the community are digging through city records to find information we need that sometimes is very old and on older systems and we usually can find what we need but not always. And so we're in favor of doing whatever can be done to preserve, um, those older records along with the newer records of course so that we can find what we need.

[02:19:31] Public Speaker Bruce England: Uh, thank you for taking that into account. On the public safety building, um, so some of us including me have an interest in seeing flexible design in that as much as possible so as times change - that building's going to be there for a long time - that different parts of the facilities can be modified for a - a different kind of use if they decide that they need that in the future.

[02:19:51] Public Speaker Bruce England: And then lastly on the recycled water service, definitely in favor of broad thinking around our water, how water's managed, how water is used, stormwater management, all of those kind of details can be very complicated. So, um, we're always in favor of seeing that, uh, explored. Those are the items I wanted to talk about. Thank you.

[02:20:12] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Thank you. Next virtual speaker is Tolga Akar.

[02:20:27] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: And the hand went down. Okay. Is that right? Okay.

[02:20:31] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Um, so I'll bring the item back for Council action and note that a motion to approve the Consent Calendar should also include reading the title of the resolutions... oh. I think they unmuted.

[02:20:42] Public Speaker Tolga Akar: Yeah, can I - I was - I thought I was talking but I think I was muted.

[02:20:46] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Yeah. Why don't we reset the timer because your hand went - so your hand went down so I didn't - I didn't - I thought that you weren't going to, uh, comment. Go ahead, we'll restart your timer.

[02:21:01] Public Speaker Tolga Akar: Thank you. Um, good evening again, Honorable Mayor and Councilmembers. Tolga Akar with Webcor Builders, we're a general contractor. Uh, we're signatory to all unions. Um, so on Item 4.7, the public safety building, uh, we're pleased to express our strong support for the city's initiative to design and construct a new public safety building.

[02:21:27] Public Speaker Tolga Akar: I think this is, uh, essential for replacing the outdated facility with a modern seismicly safe structure. Um, I understand that the proposed building will accommodate future growth and also enhance community - community engagement. Um, so we commend the city's commitment to public safety and community well-being, um, and we're looking forward to contribute our expertise and compete, uh, for the project when it comes out for bid. Thank you.

[02:21:52] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Thank you. Okay, now we'll close, um, public comment and I'll bring the item back for Council action and note that a motion to approve the Consent Calendar should also include reading the title of the resolutions attached to the Consent Calendar items 4.2, 4.3, 4.4, 4.5, and 4.13. And we have a motion by Councilmember Clark.

[02:22:11] Councilmember Chris Clark: Yes, so I move that we approve the balance of the Consent Calendar which is everything except item 4.12, and it includes Item 4.2 to adopt a resolution of the City Council of the City of Mountain View approving the annual engineer's report for the Downtown Parking Maintenance and Operation Assessment District Number 2 and approving the levying of assessments for fiscal year 2025 through 2026 to be read in title only, further reading waived;

[02:22:36] Councilmember Chris Clark: Item 4.3, adopt a resolution of the City Council of the City of Mountain View amending City Council Policy A-9, Preservation and Destruction of City Records, to implement a trusted system to be read in title only, further reading waived; Item 4.4, adopt a resolution of the City Council of the City of Mountain View repealing Resolution Number 18199 and all amendments thereto and adopting a resolution re-establishing the Performing Arts Committee to be read in title only, further reading waived;

[02:23:02] Councilmember Chris Clark: Item 4.5, adopt a resolution of the City Council of the City of Mountain View authorizing the City Manager or designee to accept a grant in the amount of $102,000 from Destination: Home SV to support the city's ongoing and new homeless - new homeless initiatives and authorizing the City Manager or their designee to execute all documents necessary for receipt of the grant of - of the grant funds to be read in title only, further reading waived;

[02:23:28] Councilmember Chris Clark: And Item 4.13, adopt a resolution of the City Council of the City of Mountain View to authorize payment of $22 million to the City of Palo Alto as a pay-as-you-go contribution toward the capital cost of Phase 1 advanced water purification system project, uh, which is, uh, referred to as the project, and assume responsibility for the payment of principal and interest on a $10.5 million loan to be obtained by the City of Palo Alto for the project to be read in title only, further reading waived;

[02:23:58] Councilmember Chris Clark: And adopt a resolution of the Shoreway Regional Park Community Board of Directors authorizing the Community Manager to enter into an agreement for $22 million with the City of Mountain View for the capital cost of the Phase 1 advanced water purification system project to be read in title only, further reading waived.

[02:24:16] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. And that was seconded by Councilmember Showalter. So let's vote. All right, and that motion passes unanimously. So we'll bring the item back to the Consent Calendar for the pulled item from Councilmember Ramirez, 4.12.

[02:24:38] Councilmember Lucas Ramirez: Thank you, Mayor. I have a few questions for staff. Um, the first question is, uh, are the public improvements described, uh, just for Phase 1 or are they the public improvements for the totality of the project that was intended?

[02:25:01] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: We'll give staff a moment to make their way down.

[02:25:12] Assistant Public Works Director Ed Arango: Thank you for the question. Ed Arango, Assistant Public Works Director and City Engineer. Uh, the public improvements were for the totality of the project. Uh, as the public improvements are tied to the subdivision, the subdivision included all phases of the, uh, project which included both, um, the properties that were part of Phase 1 and part of Phase 2.

[02:25:34] Councilmember Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. So - so no additional public improvements are contemplated for if and when the building permit for Phase 2 is pulled?

[02:25:43] Assistant Public Works Director Ed Arango: That would depend on the logistics and specific details of Phase 2, how they plan to, uh, develop Phase 2. That may require additional improvements, but are only related to the - the - the circulation on how they're planning on providing perhaps a driveway location, multiple driveway locations, and that would require a public improvement.

[02:26:05] Councilmember Lucas Ramirez: Okay, but these ones, uh, serve Phase 2 as well?

[02:26:10] Assistant Public Works Director Ed Arango: Correct.

[02:26:12] Councilmember Lucas Ramirez: Okay, great. Thank you, Ed. I'm - um, thank you Ed. I'm not sure the remaining questions are necessarily for you. Uh, are public improvements exactions or what is the - what's the mechanism, the authority that the city uses to - to secure these types of public improvements?

[02:26:37] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Councilmember Ramirez, I'm not sure that Ed can answer that question, or if our Community Development Director would be able to answer that.

[02:26:56] Community Development Director Christian Murdock: Good evening, Mayor and Council, Christian Murdock, Community Development Director. Um, typically cities adopt standards related to subdivision, uh, requiring certain minimum subdivision improvements for things like public rights-of-way, circulation, uh, water, sewer, etc., those kinds of basic infrastructure associated with a subdivision.

[02:27:20] Community Development Director Christian Murdock: So typically, uh, through the development review process, in this case the review of a subdivision map, the city's ensuring that those standards are met or deviations from those standards are approved by the city to ensure safe provision of those, uh, general public infrastructure requirements. And so it's typically through that review and approval of the tentative map authorizing the sub- subdivision of land as a prerequisite to authorizing new development, um, that those types of improvements are required by the city.

[02:27:40] Councilmember Lucas Ramirez: Okay. And I - I think I understand. So - so does the magnitude of the development, so if this were a single-family home project or, you know, the 635-unit with square footage, office square footage project, would the public improvements that we got here that are listed here be the same or - or are they proportional to - to the magnitude of the project?

[02:28:05] Community Development Director Christian Murdock: Sure. I think it's a very fact-specific question, but I'll have to answer in generalities. So, um, typically, uh, those types of improvements would, uh, be subject to the same types of considerations, nexus, proportionality to the project and so forth.

[02:28:26] Community Development Director Christian Murdock: Um, what you'll sometimes see with smaller-scale development that has, excuse me, some sort of impact on infrastructure, they may to make - need to make some sort of proportional contribution, uh, financial payment for example if the overall, uh, improvement would be disproportionate to the project. Uh, another way that that's sometimes accomplished is requiring the person or developer to make the improvement but then reimbursing them proportionally over time as other users of that infrastructure, uh, come in subsequent to the improvement.

[02:28:53] Community Development Director Christian Murdock: So there are different mechanisms to ensure that a particular project is not disproportionately burdened by an infrastructure improvement, uh, but as the project gets larger, uh, it's a little harder to sort of portion out at that very specific level of detail, um, the proportionality in some instances.

[02:29:07] Councilmember Lucas Ramirez: Okay. Thank you very much. And then if the building permit for Phase 2 is never pulled, what are the implications for the city?

[02:29:14] Community Development Director Christian Murdock: Uh, again, I think it's a very fact-specific, uh, question. Um, you know, the potential exists for a developer to seek, uh, some sort of, uh, redress if you will of those kinds of contributions, but, uh, it's a very complicated question to answer. Uh, timing, um, proportionality again, different factors, uh, would bear on that - that answer.

[02:29:34] Councilmember Lucas Ramirez: Great. Thank you very much. Those are my questions. Thank you, Mayor.

[02:29:38] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. Seeing no others in the queue, I'd entertain a motion. All right, and this has been moved by Councilmember Clark, seconded by Councilmember Showalter, so we can vote.

[02:29:50] City Clerk Heather Glaser: And the motion before you is the approval of 4.12.

[02:29:56] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Oh, yes. Apologies. Thanks.

7.1 Federal Fiscal Year 2025-30 Consolidated Plan and Fiscal Year 2025-26 Annual Action Plan

[02:30:03] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: All right, and that passes unanimously. We'll move on to Item 5, Oral Communications. This portion of the meeting is reserved for persons wishing to address the Council on any matter not on the agenda. Speakers are allowed to speak on any topic within the City Council's subject matter jurisdiction for up to three minutes during this section.

[02:30:21] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: State law prohibits the Council from acting on non-agenda items. If you'd like to speak on this item or the next item in person, please submit a blue speaker card to the Assistant City Clerk now. Would any member of the public joining us virtually or in person like to provide comment on this item? And I see a few in person, so we have quite the queue. So if we could go to two minutes, please. Thank you. And we'll start with Karen followed by James followed by Harmony then Grace and Wanda.

[02:31:14] Public Speaker Karen: My name is Karen. I attended my first city council meeting about seven months ago, asking if the city would allow Ridwell to operate in our town. Ridwell is a voluntary service that residents can sign up for and get hard-to-recycle and reusable items picked up from their doorstep. Today I'm here with a more specific ask for the City Council members. I ask that you talk with employees in the city to fully look at the pilot program that Ridwell has tailored for our city and involve Ridwell in the discussion about it.

[02:31:42] Public Speaker Karen: Ridwell first reached out to the city three years ago. At this time, I worked for them and can attest to the slow response, canceled meetings with no explanation, and general ghosting. I have read the City's Zero Waste Plan and I have read the pilot program that Ridwell has presented to the city. The pilot program aligns with the City Zero Waste Plan, which encourages pilot programs for hard-to-recycle and reusable items. The current franchise agreement contains an exception for pilot programs, meaning there is no conflict with Recology's exclusive rights.

[02:32:16] Public Speaker Karen: One specific item that Ridwell stated that they would take in the pilot program is clamshells. Our city doesn't take them, but Ridwell will, and it also is written that if Recology does take them that Ridwell will stop. I have been told from the members of the city that this is an issue between Ridwell and Recology. The pilot program does not violate any contractual agreements with Recology, meaning this is an issue that the city needs to resolve, a program that the city needs to and should approve.

[02:32:48] Public Speaker Karen: Again, I ask for the city to prioritize this matter, take a meeting with Ridwell and sort it out. Let Ridwell be a partner to the city and the citizens to help achieve our zero waste goal. And one more thing, not everyone here is going to speak, but raise your hand if you're here for Ridwell and the support and just know that a lot of people are supporting this. Thank you.

[02:33:18] Public Speaker James: My name is James and I'm a 10-year-old. I want to share how kids are making a difference in our town and how Ridwell has been a part of it. At school, I'm part of a green team that helps kids learn about recycling, composting, and trash. Before the green team started, we had roughly 40 plus bags of trash a week from snack and lunch. Last week, we had one. The reason this is working is because of education and a little bit of effort.

[02:33:50] Public Speaker James: The green team help teach kids what goes in which bin. The bins are liquid, recycling, compost, trash, and Ridwell, which for our school is a lot of snack and chip bags. We help sort it and parents from our school take these plastics to other towns where their families have Ridwell, so it avoids going in our landfills. Imagine every school in Mountain View could do this. Every country, every state, the whole world.

[02:34:16] Public Speaker James: That's a lot less trash and plastic in our landfills and oceans. This is proof that a little bit of education and effort can make a big difference. Please let Ridwell in our town so more people can learn and help our environment. Yeah!

[02:34:49] Public Speaker Harmony: Hi, I'm Harmony. I'm just here in support of Ridwell. I recycle clamshells currently in Palo Alto and I collect it from these guys. So I'm just passionate and I hope that the city will be able to have the program come. Thank you.

[02:35:23] Public Speaker Grace: Hi, my name is Grace and thank you very much for allowing me to speak today. I'm a 20-year resident of Mountain View and in keeping with the city zero waste plan that encourages pilot programs that work toward that goal, I would like to strongly encourage that the City Council consider Ridwell's proposal which was submitted several months ago. Ridwell is filling a void, providing a recycling service currently not provided by Recology, thus helping to reduce landfill waste.

[02:35:58] Public Speaker Grace: They demonstrate it is possible to recycle these items. Recology's Mountain View contract still does not accept certain common household items like chip bags, any kind of plastic that's kind of a film, Trader Joe's bags. I won't bore you with all of these, but these are all what would have ended up in the landfill and actually this is only from one week of my garbage.

[02:36:36] Public Speaker Grace: One of the things that really is very personal to me is that I'm a type 1 diabetic and so I have to receive my insulin that comes in a 90-day supply in these Styrofoam bins. I hate it, but I have to accept it and the way I get rid of it now is I have to fill this entire 30-gallon bag and then find a facility, and the closest one that is available is in Sunnyvale. I used to drive up to Redwood City after the One Green Citizen shut down in Mountain View.

[02:37:10] Public Speaker Grace: There are other cities all across the Bay Area, I won't name them all, but on their site they have about 59 cities. So I'd like to also be part of that. Thank you.

[02:37:16] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: I'm sorry, your time is up. Thank you.

[02:37:19] Public Speaker Grace: Thank you.

[02:37:23] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: James? I mean, Harmony, then Grace, Wanda, Peter.

[02:37:34] Public Speaker Wanda: Hi, I just want to say too that there's no reason why the city shouldn't accept Ridwell because it's not going to cost anyone anything. We as citizens that want to continue with recycling, we're willing to pay the 14 dollars a month to have them come to our door and pick it up. And that saves me more time than having to drive somewhere to drop it off in another city.

[02:38:05] Public Speaker Wanda: And I love Mountain View and I think we're doing a lot of great things so I think this is one more thing that we can add to the pile. And I could yield my time to someone else right now. Thank you.

[02:38:22] Public Speaker Peter: Hi, I'm Peter Norco, a proud resident of Mountain View for over 10 years. I'm here to say I'm a bit embarrassed to have to come to you today to ask your permission for the right to be able to purchase a service that is not provided by the city. Not provided by the city, is available in many of our neighboring cities, comes at no cost to any Mountain View resident that doesn't want this service, and provides a significant benefit to our environment, something that I know is very important to this council and Mountain View residents.

[02:38:54] Public Speaker Peter: The service I'm speaking about is the one you've heard from many other people. This is one provided by Ridwell, who accountably recycles products that a curbside partner is not able to. One thing that's also, our city has another proposal in mind, another partner, another service, I would be open to that and I think others would as well. The thing we're very focused on is we want to be able to do something with our recyclables that the curbside won't take.

[02:39:20] Public Speaker Peter: And so this chamber and the people leading it, I know have done many great things for the city, some of them have been mentioned here today, and you have a fairly thankless job, so thank you for doing it. But one thing I think we're dropping the ball is in terms of recycling. You know every day we choose to not make available service that comes at no cost to the city, no cost to residents that choose not to use it, but that prevents single-use plastics from entering our drinking water, oceans, and food is by our choice of inaction, choosing to damage our future and our community.

[02:39:55] Public Speaker Peter: So I'm asking you to put the same vision, courage, and political will that someone mentioned you all have about affordable housing behind the ways we can support our environment. And so as you consider this proposal, I leave you with a chant that my children and my family will say at home, which is: Hey, hey! Ho, ho! This plastic has got to go! Where is it going to go?

[02:40:15] Public Speaker Peter: Not in a landfill! Thank you.

[02:40:24] Public Speaker David Franklin: Hello, my name is David Franklin. As residents of Mountain View, my family has always done our best to be as green and sustainable as possible. However, we can't help but see the huge amount of waste that our household places in the landfill on a weekly basis. We do a great job saving items that are allowed by Mountain View to be collected. However, items such as multi-layer plastics, we call them crinkly plastics like the chip bags, and film or stretchy plastics, the one you can poke your finger through, I think she brought some examples, thank you.

[02:40:58] Public Speaker David Franklin: Items that can be found around the house have no place except for the landfill bins. Ridwell, a business that offers voluntary subscription-based doorstep service that fills these critical gaps in the traditional curbside system by collecting at-home source-separated hard-to-recycle and reusable items that my family uses on a regular basis is a program our community deserves, especially if zero waste is a reasonable citywide goal.

[02:41:34] Public Speaker David Franklin: The beauty of Ridwell is that they want to take this hard-to-recycle material and they will take them. They are very transparent about what they take and what they make with the items that they take. At our home, we collect a plastic grocery store-sized bag every week of what we call at our house Ridwell-able material. And if everyone in Mountain View had the choice to do this, imagine how many bags we'd save to be put in the landfill to be making other products.

[02:42:12] Public Speaker David Franklin: The list of Mountain View residents wanting to bring Ridwell to our community is up to 500 and growing. We are waiting for the opportunity to get as close to zero waste and be as sustainable as we can. Mountain View City Council, please consider bringing Ridwell into our Mountain View community. Thank you.

[02:42:25] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Thank you. We'll move on to virtual public comment, versus Bruce England and then Celia Pamer.

[02:42:26] Public Speaker Bruce England: Thank you Mayor. Bruce England, Winston Station Drive again. So as you likely know, Ridwell held a community meeting about their services at the Community Center recently with a full house attending. And it's notable that so many members showed up for the event given it was in the middle of a workday and a lot of residents were likely unaware it was even happening.

[02:42:45] Public Speaker Bruce England: We absolutely should make the curbside option happen in Mountain View for the reasons called out in a recent Mountain View Voice article and discussed tonight, and sooner rather than later. All other means including those offered by the city here are band-aid workarounds. It's fairly disingenuous for Recology to object when the items that would be picked up by Ridwell are intended to be those that Recology does not deal with at all.

[02:43:31] Public Speaker Bruce England: Also as you have heard already tonight, responsible management of materials across the entire lifecycle is very important to younger people who after all will be carrying forward our efforts after most of us, and they need to know that we support what they do or wish to do today for our environment. Thank you.

[02:43:35] Public Speaker Celia Pamer: Hi, thanks for hearing me out. I'm Celia Pamer, also a Mountain View resident of about 15 years. I'm also speaking in support of a Ridwell program. I feel like if we can get a pilot project for robots to take over the sidewalks, we should be able to do the crazy thing of instead of having full boxes delivered and empty boxes picked up, have empty boxes delivered and full boxes picked up, if it helps reduce our environmental impact.

[02:44:05] Public Speaker Celia Pamer: So I don't think it's a completely novel idea. Again, we get boxes delivered all the time that are full. I don't see how picking them up is such a big difference. And if we can have pilot projects that are much more complex and involve electronics and I don't know, I even saw something about drone delivery, I don't know if that's realistic, but you know if that's happening I don't see why we can't just have a porch pickup service for waste that would otherwise fill up our landfill. Thank you.

[02:44:38] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you very much. I am not seeing any other public comment in person or virtual, so I'm going to close public comment and then turn it over to City Attorney Logue.

[02:44:49] City Attorney Jennifer Logue: Thank you Mayor Kamei, Vice Mayor Ramos, and Councilmembers and members of the public. I just wanted to take this opportunity to provide a brief update to the Council and so that the members of the public could hear this because I understand that the residents of Mountain View are very passionate about this issue and I wanted to let you know that we are taking it very seriously in the City Attorney's office and we are, you know, understand and are following the commitment that Mountain View has to the environment.

[02:45:20] City Attorney Jennifer Logue: So we are conducting a thorough legal review of the franchise agreement right now. We are working on preparing a confidential legal memo for the City Council members that will hopefully provide options for moving forward. This is a complicated legal issue. We have received an email from Recology's legal counsel stating clearly that allowing Ridwell to operate in Mountain View would violate the franchise agreement.

[02:45:48] City Attorney Jennifer Logue: And so in light of receipt of that email, we do have to take it seriously because we do not want to put the City of Mountain View in litigation without thoroughly analyzing all of the issues. And so we are working on this confidential legal memo which we will share with Council and then hopefully we will be able to provide an update in the future. It will take us about a month or two to finish this because it is a complex issue and we've got a lot of items coming up on Council, but I just wanted you to know that we're taking it seriously and that this issue is not being ignored by the City Attorney's office.

[02:46:22] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you very much. All right, so I've closed oral communications and we'll move to Item 6, which is new business. Item 6.1 is AB 491 Military Equipment Annual Report and Policy Adoption.

[02:46:40] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: This will be a joint presentation by our Police Chief Michael Canfield and City Attorney Jennifer Logue. If you'd like to speak on this item in person, please submit a blue speaker card to the Assistant City Clerk now. We'll begin with the staff presentation.

[02:47:01] Police Chief Michael Canfield: Good evening Mayor, Council. I'm Mike Canfield, Police Chief. Presenting with me is City Attorney Logue, and this is Assembly Bill 481's presentation, that's military equipment funding, acquisition, and use. With that, I will pass the first slide over to the City Attorney.

[02:47:20] City Attorney Jennifer Logue: Thank you Chief Canfield. Jennifer Logue, City Attorney again. Good evening Mayor Kamei, Vice Mayor Ramos, and Councilmembers. The Police Department worked very closely with the City Attorney's office to prepare tonight's Council item, and I thought it would be helpful to provide to refresh Council's recollection and the public's recollection of the requirements of Assembly Bill 481 and why we are here this evening.

[02:47:52] City Attorney Jennifer Logue: So this first slide gives you a couple little facts about AB 481. Assembly Bill 481 enacted California Government Code sections 7070 through 7075, which governs the funding, acquisition, and use of military equipment by local law enforcement agencies. And military equipment is specifically defined in the Government Code, so it's not just any type of military equipment that you can think of. It has 15 categories of military equipment that needs to be reported on by local government agencies if they wish to use them.

[02:48:25] City Attorney Jennifer Logue: The purpose of AB 481 and these Government Code sections enacted is just to ensure that there's adequate oversight of the acquisition of use of military equipment in local or by local law enforcement agencies. So what does it actually require? The first step is that the local agency that wishes to use military equipment must seek authorization by the governing body, and the governing body must provide this authorization by adoption of an ordinance.

[02:48:57] City Attorney Jennifer Logue: The next step is once that ordinance is adopted, the local law enforcement agency must prepare annual reports for as long as the authority exists. And the annual report is supposed to contain specific information, it's submitted to the governing body, and it's also made publicly available by posted on the law enforcement agency's website. After it is publicly released and submitted to the Council, there needs to be a community meeting.

[02:49:25] City Attorney Jennifer Logue: The community meeting needs to be held within 30 days after the report is submitted and publicly released. And the community meeting is to allow discussion and questions about the report and funding or acquisition and use of military equipment. And then the last requirement is why we're here this evening. It requires the Council or the governing body of the agency to annually review the military equipment policy and to vote on whether to reauthorize that policy.

[02:50:04] City Attorney Jennifer Logue: And so now I will turn it back to Chief Canfield to sort of walk you through how we've complied with AB 481 and other specifics regarding the military use policy.

[02:50:12] Police Chief Michael Canfield: Thank you City Attorney Logue. And that is the transition into our AB 481 legal compliance. Here's just a highlight of that legal compliance. Starting last year, June 11th, City Council adopted Ordinance No. 6.2024 and that was the renewal of our Police Department policy 709.

[02:50:34] Police Chief Michael Canfield: The this year 2025, the Police Department coordinated and created our annual AB 481 report that was posted on our city website on April 11th. Starting the 11th and continuing through the 18th, we provided community notification in a number of ways of our public meeting. That included our City Hall Connections newsletter, direct communications from me, as well as phone calls and emails from me the Police Chief to our community stakeholders and using our robust social media networks to notify our community of that meeting.

[02:51:11] Police Chief Michael Canfield: The meeting was held on April 21st just next door in the conference room and it was attended both virtually and in person with Spanish translation services available, although they were not needed. Today and May 27th Council meeting you will review and vote to renew the ordinance and then that will be the compliance component of AB 481. With that, I'll go into a high-level summary of the equipment that we do have in our possession that qualifies for AB 481.

[02:51:41] Police Chief Michael Canfield: Those items are covered in much more granular detail in both our 2024 AB 481 report as well as our staff report. But you can see here that the Police Department has a number of items like many police departments that qualify for AB 481 reporting. Those include drones, mobile command vehicles, a robot which I would liken more to like an RC car but with treads, not tires, explosive breaching equipment, chemical munitions such as tear gas, noise flash diversionary devices.

[02:52:18] Police Chief Michael Canfield: Some firearms qualify for AB 481 that we possess and their related ammunition, as well as all of our kinetic energy less lethal munitions, those are like the sponge rounds or bean bag round launchers. Those all qualify as AB 481 equipment. As we look at the two columns on the slide, you can see the items that were used in 2024 and the items on the right that are proposed for 2025.

[02:52:55] Police Chief Michael Canfield: It's important to note that when we say the items that are used on the left, they were either used in training or they were equipped on our officers when they were working in the field, but that does not mean in this circumstance that any of them were fired or launched or ignited, etc., with the exception of training facilities. These were carried at times but never deployed if you will. Our equipment was, like I said, used in our training.

[02:53:31] Police Chief Michael Canfield: It requires training, supervised training, in order to be able to carry it. So we did utilize some of our equipment in training and as such the bottom four bullet points on the right column are highlighting items that we believe we will either need to replace now or anticipate needing to replace for our future training, to accommodate future training. It's important to note that there were no complaints associated to any of our AB 481 equipment in 2024.

[02:54:04] Police Chief Michael Canfield: Those would be listed in our AB 481 report. Back to those four bottom bullet points, those are a total of about 16,000 dollars is what we anticipate needing to replace both expired as well as utilized equipment. But that top bullet point is the larger ticket item and that is for an armored rescue vehicle. That total for an armored rescue vehicle that we discussed at length at our AB 481 community meeting is about 382,000 dollars, with the lion's share of that money, about 230,000 dollars, proposed to be coming from the department's federal and state asset forfeiture funds.

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[03:00:33] Councilmember Emily Ramos: Like one piece of equipment per city or is it do one piece of equipment per our current populations at 85,000 -- how if as we grow is that something we have to think about like every single time? I don't think we're going to double in size anytime soon but does that mean we need another armored vehicle after another few thousand?

[03:00:55] Police Chief Michael Canfield: I suppose there is an economy of scale and I think if you look at major cities very large population cities you will see that they have more than one armored rescue vehicle however I believe that tipping point is significant and I don't think it would be likely for a city of our size even even if the city were to grow by 40 percent. And I think what makes sense to me and to the regional police chiefs is that each city has that piece of equipment on their own. I'll be frank many of our tactical operations to do safely require more than one. So if they're planned out in advance for example there was a SWAT activation a couple of weeks ago that required two of these armored rescue vehicles which means a lot of asking and a lot of favors. It's much easier if you have one. For an emergency situation having one immediately available is really a lifesaver potentially a lifesaver but I would recommend that the the city our size have one. It's the right size for us or the right number for our population and calls for service.

[03:01:57] Councilmember Emily Ramos: So is it kind of like this is our contribution to the regional pot of armored vehicles that other cities can also ask politely from us from?

[03:02:11] Police Chief Michael Canfield: As is the case with all law enforcement there can be regional mutual aid requests that come through the California Office of Emergency Services so certainly it can be requested of other agencies you'll see that for example with the Super Bowl or with FIFA World Cup that request will be made. I think it's more important to have that piece of equipment present and available for the city of Mountain View for our community. When it's available and it's appropriate and it doesn't impact our safety for our community I would consider allowing neighboring agencies in an emergency to utilize that equipment as they have for us but I would not consider it a piece of equipment designated to be readily deployed to other cities at their beck and call.

[03:02:56] Councilmember Emily Ramos: Alright, thank you.

[03:02:58] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Councilmember Showalter.

[03:03:01] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Yeah, I'm just going to repeat a question I asked on paper and that was about the use of the drones because I'm because drones can be used for a lot of police work but they can also be used for other city work like roof inspections. So I wondered if you could share with us some of the things that we do use them for as well as some of the things that we might use them for.

[03:03:26] Police Chief Michael Canfield: That's a great question. Yeah drones we have found to be very multi-faceted with a lot of different purposes obviously from a law enforcement perspective they are invaluable at searching for a missing person for example or looking for a firearm that may have been disposed on a roof line that we can't find. We have in our application utilized the drone on a SWAT activation related to a shooting and seen a suspect throw a bag with a firearm over a fence and then we were able to deploy resources right to that bag and pull a firearm out of it so there's one for one kind of I guess what I would say is kind of obvious right in your face uses for drones for law enforcement. Very valuable even in indoor situations we can put a drone into a room and look around in a room to see if it's safe before we have to put any human beings into that room any of our officers to see if a situation's safe. But also they could be used if the fire department needed us to do the same thing in a chemical a chemical environment so if it's hazardous materials or if they need a roofline inspected for fires etc we have done this for public works where we have checked roof lines to make it safer for city staff by putting our drones up with our high quality cameras to examine the areas that they need inspected and then preventing them from having to walk on potentially dangerous rooflines some rooflines are much more dangerous than others. There's also an interesting question that you posed about how we might provide services in the Shoreline Park area related to our wildlife. It's it was actually very interesting we hadn't thought about that but it's an area in which we can consider and work with our city to see if there's an area where we can deploy the drone to to support wildlife management. What makes sense for me just off the top of my head is after a large rainstorm or flooding in the creek seeing what habitat could be damaged that's very hard to do on foot and it's it's actually pretty easy to do in the air that's it's really a great application and and likely if there was some damage out or or flooding out in the Shoreline Park examining habitat. That would be something we'd have to be very careful about the application in a wildlife setting but our pilots are extremely professional qualified and licensed to do that work and would would coordinate with the appropriate parties.

[03:05:47] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Yeah thank you I can imagine too on a flood situation not necessarily looking for wildlife but just looking for where there were backups you know you could fly the fly the drone down the creek and find out where there was some sort of a backup that was causing flooding much much faster than you could do by having people walk along the creek. Yeah that'd be great. Thank you.

[03:06:08] Police Chief Michael Canfield: Absolutely.

[03:06:10] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Thank you. Councilmember McAlister.

[03:06:11] Councilmember John McAlister: Yeah, I just want a couple of follow-up questions in my own. Does the fire department have drones?

[03:06:16] Police Chief Michael Canfield: To my knowledge right now they -- oh, the Fire Chief is here. I think he's signaling for me to answer. The -- if I may speak for the fire department currently they do not have drones however all they need to do is ask and we will make our drones and our drone pilots available.

[03:06:35] Councilmember John McAlister: We'll look into that later on. Okay. Uh on a second note so this vehicle armored vehicle I remember when the Super Bowl was held in Santa Clara before and the light rail station -- I mean rail station was a well-guarded area I mean there was SWAT teams all around the anticipation of anything. Would that type of vehicle be used at a situation for the Super Bowl at the light rail station the train station for security?

[03:07:07] Police Chief Michael Canfield: So clearly an ARV will be used for many ARVs in fact probably all of the ARVs in the region will be used for for a Super Bowl. It is a tier one event that has a lot of both federal and state assets as far as you know law enforcement and threats. They will also be used for the FIFA events. Exactly how probably not the best place to discuss but I will say they also have a lot of value for other larger community events and gatherings they have been used in other agencies for a vehicle barrier to stop a wayward vehicle that may be intending or accidentally moving into heavily populated areas they are essentially the best mobile barrier around.

[03:07:53] Councilmember John McAlister: Well sort of a side note is that when President Obama came to Walmart we used buses VTA buses as a security so would you say that would be a little stronger than a VTA bus barrier but that's something to think about later on.

[03:08:08] Police Chief Michael Canfield: They both have their application.

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[03:08:12] Councilmember John McAlister: Sure. A question also there was some bullets that you were you put on your list. What's what's unique about those particular bullets?

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[03:08:19] Police Chief Michael Canfield: So different types of ammunition. So ammunition that's not carried day to day or firearms that aren't carried day to day in our standard issue those that ammunition needs to be reported as well. So for example there's the the 308 caliber ammunition those are ammunition that our snipers use in specific firearms so that ammunition because it's not general issue has to be reported in AB 481.

[03:08:48] Councilmember John McAlister: And in the spirit did you realize that this is National Police Week?

[03:08:52] Police Chief Michael Canfield: I did.

[03:08:53] Councilmember John McAlister: Okay on behalf of the council or among myself I'd like to thank you and all your officers for doing such a good job for the city being here to be fully transparent about the type of equipment we have and on your day-to-day work that you do with for the community so I thank you.

[03:09:08] Police Chief Michael Canfield: You're welcome. Thank you.

[03:09:09] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: That didn't sound like a question. That sounded like a comment. We're not into comments yet. Thank you. Yes happy happy National Police Week as our Fire Chief is here too. Do we have any other questions? Alright if not I'm going to open it up for public comment. Would any member of the public online or in person like to provide comment on this item? I see one raised hand and that is Bruce England so we'll give you two minutes Bruce.

[03:09:50] Public Speaker Bruce England: Thank you Mayor I don't even need that long but um yeah I just wanted to mention again my regrets that we don't have the Public Safety Advisory Board I think that that was ended prematurely there is interest in the community about our public safety in all aspects including police fire and emergency services. I do worry about what's going to happen when the larger earthquakes happen here when we have the next big earthquake that we're properly prepared that the public knows what to do I have a feeling that they really don't. Um and I appreciate Chief Canfield's work on outreach and you know I talk with him myself regularly and I appreciate his staying connected with me. We have the community group MV CPA that still exists but we counted on PSAB and we don't have that to work through anymore so we have to kind of do things on our own. I think it's very important for the information that you're hearing tonight to be shared it's great that it's being shared here at City Council in any way that that can happen whether it's by reactivating PSAB or continuing reports at council or the community meetings that Mike holds with members of the community and with with his particular interest groups. I think having all of those are great and I encourage that and I have no particular questions or concerns about the equipment that he described tonight. Thank you.

[03:11:17] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Great thank you. Our next virtual speaker is April Webster.

[03:11:24] Public Speaker April Webster: Thank you. Um just a quick comment and thought as I um I was listening to some of the details about drones and and I'm just thinking outside of the box and wondering if we could you know maybe use drones as a cost-effective way to detect blocked bike lanes on Middlefield and El Camino Real and I don't know maybe use technology to automatically trigger tow dispatch or alerts. Um thank you so much that's all I wanted to share.

[03:11:53] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Thank you. Alright I am not seeing any others in the queue so I'll bring the item back for council deliberation and action and note that a motion to approve the recommendation should also include reading the title of the ordinance attached to the report. And while I wait for a motion I'll just ask the Chief a question which is you know there was a suggestion about sharing further and maybe perhaps you could tell us how you know any other actions might be shared with the public.

[03:12:28] Police Chief Michael Canfield: Yes so there are a number of community advisory bodies that I work with both the Faith Leaders Advisory Body and the Latino Community Advisory Bodies. The city also has a a community-based organization stakeholder meeting through the human services department of the city manager's office. Those are all really valuable ways for me to seek and receive feedback. I we go out of our way to really try to be accessible engaged and communicate with everybody from a broad perspective whether it's Coalition for Police Reform and Accountability or or former and former members of the Public Safety Advisory Body. So it is a high priority for us. One of the things that we've done although I want to be accessible and try to to always be available to people with questions but we also want to answer questions in advance and provide that information to folks so a priority for the police department was the creation of our transparency dashboard. We have received very positive feedback it is a work in progress so we're always encouraging folks to go online and then also take a look at it and provide us with comments and recommendations for improvements. It is been a valuable area for us to continue that transparency and engagement.

[03:13:43] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Great thank you. So it sounds like multiple venues to try to continue the dialogue and the and the transparency that we're having tonight. So I see a motion from Councilmember McAlister seconded by Councilmember Clark and I see no one in the queue so let's vote.

[03:14:03] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Oh I'm sorry Councilmember McAlister needs to read the ordinance. Thank you. You need to read the ordinance.

[03:14:22] Councilmember John McAlister: Thank you. I will now talk about the ordinance. Introduce an ordinance of the city of Mountain View renewing approval of Mountain View Police Department's military equipment use policy adopting updated military equipment use policy and finding that this action is not subject to the California Environmental Quality Act to be read in title only further reading waived and set a second reading for May 27th, 2025.

[03:14:48] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Great. Thank you. Alright now we can vote.

[03:14:56] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Alright and that passes unanimously. Thank you to City Attorney Jennifer Logue and Chief Canfield for the joint presentation.

[03:15:03] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: We'll move on to item seven which is our public hearing. Item 7.1 is our Federal Fiscal Year 2025 through 30 Consolidated Plan and Fiscal Year 2025 through 26 Annual Action Plan. Housing Officer Alec Vibrel and Affordable Housing Manager Julie Bernard will present the item. If you'd like to speak on the item in person please submit a blue speaker card to the Assistant City Clerk now and we'll begin with the staff report.

[03:15:37] Housing Officer Alec Vibrel: Hello Honorable Mayor Kamei Vice Mayor Ramos and Councilmembers. It's good to see you all. I hope you're doing well. My name is Alec Vibrel and I am a housing officer with the city's affordable housing division and I am joined by Julie Bernard the affordable housing manager. Also available for questions is Wayne Chen housing director, Praneet Dinza human services manager, and Heidi Agler managing director of Root Policy. Today I will be giving you a presentation on on the fiscal year 2025 through 2030 Consolidated Plan and 2025 through 2026 Annual Action Plan which includes the grant funding recommendations. First some quick background. The city receives annual grant funding from the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development or HUD which includes the Community Development Block Grant or CDBG and the HOME Investment Partnerships Program or HOME. The CDBG program provides funds to help address community development needs. A maximum of 15 percent can be used for public services activities such as services for unhoused persons, seniors, and survivors of domestic violence. A maximum of 20 percent can be used for program administration and the remaining funds can be used for other eligible activities such as capital projects including affordable housing rehabilitation and minor home repairs for income eligible homeowners or economic development activities including small business assistance. The HOME program provides funding to help fund the development of affordable housing and related programs and a maximum of 10 percent can be used for program administration.

[03:17:13] Housing Officer Alec Vibrel: In order to receive CDBG and HOME funding the city must submit a consolidated plan to HUD. This document outlines housing needs, barriers to affordable housing, and includes a strategic plan with priority needs and goals to assist low and moderate income households. The city partnered with Santa Clara County and other participating jurisdictions in the county to help develop each jurisdiction's respective consolidated plan through a regional process while also ensuring that local priorities and needs were properly identified and incorporated into the city's consolidated plan. The plan contains the city's priority needs which are key housing and community development issues identified through data analysis, public input, including public workshops, focus groups, pop-up events, a community survey, and more. Based on the data analysis and public input it is staff's recommendation that the following five priority needs be included in the 2025 through 30 Consolidated Plan: number one increase affordable housing, number two respond to homelessness, number 3 support public services, number 4 promote economic vitality, and number 5 enhance public infrastructure.

[03:18:28] Housing Officer Alec Vibrel: During the five-year Consolidated Plan cycle the city also prepares one-year annual action plans that serve to implement the specific projects and activities to address the priority needs identified in the consolidated plan. The fiscal year 2025 through 26 annual action plan covers the period of July 1st, 2025 through June 30th, 2026 which is the first year of the new consolidated plan cycle. The annual action plan includes funding for public services awarded through a competitive Notice of Funding Availability or NOFA which the city operates on a two-year cycle with the upcoming fiscal year being the first. For year one in the cycle there is an estimated amount of $233,000 in CDBG funds available for public services pending the release of the final allocations by HUD. To supplement these funds the city also makes $171,000 in city general funds available. In order to receive CDBG funds applicants must meet HUD eligibility criteria and the city's priority needs from our consolidated plan. In addition each of the applications were reviewed using the city's evaluation framework. The city received many applications through the NOFA process which resulted in the funds being oversubscribed. Funding recommendations were determined using a capped proportion formula to maximize funding for eligible applicants given the oversubscription.

[03:19:53] Alec Vibral: Once the capped proportion formula was applied to the recommended CDBG applications, it results in the following grant funding recommendations. For CDBG applications, the maximum award amount was 31,508. and 7 of the 11 applicants are recommended to receive at least 79% of their requested amount. Once the capped proportion formula was applied to the recommended general fund applications, it resulted in the following grant funding recommendations. For general

[03:20:24] Alec Vibral: fund applications, the maximum award was $18,489. Remaining funding is awarded through a direct allocation process. These projects include an emergency home repair program for income eligible Mountain View homeowners, a micro enterprise assistance program that will assist income eligible childcare service providers in the city, ADA improvements for public facilities and infrastructure, and eligible projects in the city's affordable housing pipeline. This table shows the process to date that began with the HRC meeting this past December. The NoFA was released on December 6th and closed on January 10th, HRC provided feedback and made funding recommendations on April 3rd. Following that meeting was the 30 day public comment period, which is culminating in the public hearing tonight. The city was notified by HUD that the CDBGN home allocations are anticipated to be released tomorrow, May 14th. Hud also provided guidance that the submittal of the plans must be completed within 60 days of the allocation announcements. Based on these anticipated dates, the final plans will be submitted by July 14th, 2025. Staff will monitor any updates from HUD and ensure timely submission. It is staff's recommendation that council adopted the fiscal year 2025 through 30 consolidated plan and the fiscal year 2025 through 26 annual action plan, including the proposed funding allocations. And this concludes staff's presentation. Thank you for your time, and we are happy to answer any questions you may have.

[03:22:07] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Great thank you so much. Does any member of the council have any questions? I'm going to guess Councilmember Ramirez.

[03:22:20] Councilmember Lucas Ramirez: Thank you Mayor you were paying attention. I have a a question about and this is probably difficult uh for for staff uh so if members of the public who intend to speak on this item can share their perspective I I'd appreciate it but I'm I'm curious to understand in the broader context of loss of federal funding uh and and a corresponding increase in need particularly from those who I think are targeted and vulnerable given um what the the federal government is is trying to achieve. Uh what do you believe the impact of those that confluence of the factors will will be in Mountain View and um is this is the this is the hard part of the question is is what we're proposing sufficient to blunt that impact?

[03:23:27] Affordable Housing Manager Julie Bernard: Um yeah thank you for the question. Good evening everybody. Um I'd like to just start by saying as we know the tomorrow the funding allocations will be released by HUD and that is for our upcoming fiscal year our upcoming fiscal year. So the the annual action plan as we've presented it tonight we expect that nothing will change. Um we have heard as as many have been following the news that um the federal budget there is a proposal to remove uh the CDBG and the HOME funding altogether. In which case yes we would be considerably impacted but we wouldn't know um that until around about September when the federal government adopts their their budget. So we can say that for this upcoming year there's no effect to our plan as proposed. Um going forward if we were to assume maybe no CDBG or no HOME in the next couple years um what we can rely on is that we receive a large amount of program income from loan repayments from affordable housing developers and and what have you so we would still have the ability to utilize that funding um for our public service providers. It would be a much smaller amount. Um but we wouldn't have zero available to us at least um for the next for the foreseeable future. Um and to answer I think another one of your questions it is tricky because the priorities have shifted. Um CDBG and HOME is heavily focused on LMI low moderate income persons and people with disabilities etc and um the priority at the federal level right now is is to focus rather on um economic development. Um which also has a value. So if we need to pivot and shift our priorities in order to maybe be creative potentially um that's something we would have to investigate but I'd like to assure you that at least with the upcoming plan um there's we we hope to receive an allocation close to what our budget is reflected tonight.

[03:25:43] Councilmember Lucas Ramirez: Great. Thank you. That's very helpful. I'll have some comments later.

[03:25:47] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Great. Thank you. Any other colleagues have questions? Um Councilmember McAlister. And I think too just to flag I know that we had sent a letter to our member of Congress flagging the HOME funds and trying to advocate um for them so we have been as a city proactively trying to to address that issue too. Councilmember McAlister.

[03:26:14] Councilmember John McAlister: Yeah thank you. I had a question about affordable care child care and how it's it's important. I own a child care facility and I know it's we're struggling all over the because of the way the schools are putting out TK and so forth. So what are you trying to resolve or help with child care? What's your approach on this?

[03:26:42] Housing Officer Alec Vibrel: Yeah so we are hoping to partner with an organization called Upwards for their Boost program. They partner with other cities around our area including San Jose. I believe they recently received an allocation of around a million dollars from San Jose and they have a really great program the Boost program which identifies local child care providers that are low income and helps them to increase their business capacity. Right? It helps them implement more efficient accounting systems, better advertising in order to reach more people, increase their capacity to be able to oversee more children. Um so it not only helps to increase the access of child care for everyone in the city but it also helps those low and moderate income child care service business owners to expand their business and generate more income for themselves.

[03:27:36] Councilmember John McAlister: Okay. Child care is very expensive to do because of all the licensure requirements, the land required for the space allocation. So are there many low income child providers out there?

[03:27:53] Housing Officer Alec Vibrel: Yes so we met with um representatives from Upwards and they have identified a number of of these providers in the city. Um their goal for the upcoming fiscal year is to assist 10 10 child care providers in the city.

[03:28:08] Councilmember John McAlister: In Mountain View.

[03:28:11] Housing Officer Alec Vibrel: Mm-hm.

[03:28:12] Councilmember John McAlister: Oh okay. Good. Thank you.

[03:28:13] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Great thank you. Councilmember Hicks.

[03:28:14] Councilmember Alison Hicks: So now now you've got me interested. The the 10 that you fund are they family daycare providers? So like in-home daycare providers or are they other situations as well? Larger centers.

[03:28:27] Housing Officer Alec Vibrel: Um based on my understanding that is the case. Uh I think we may have a representative from Upwards on the line um and they may be able to answer more detailed questions.

[03:28:38] Councilmember Alison Hicks: Sure I'd love to hear what the 10 kind of what the profile are they family or other situations.

[03:28:49] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Does staff know the name of the individual? Oh we're identifying. Great thank you. Perhaps you can tell you can say into the mic their name so they can be ready for the unmute.

[03:29:01] Housing Officer Alec Vibrel: Yes her name is Melanie.

[03:29:04] Public Speaker Melanie For: Hi good evening Honorable Mayor Kamei Vice Mayor Ramos and Councilmembers. My name is Melanie For. I'm the community impact manager at Upwards. Um I'm also before joining Upwards team I was a client and both my toddlers who hopefully you won't be able to hear in the background um attended Upwards partnered daycares. So I'm happy to answer a couple of the questions that have come up. I'm also happy to share more about how the program works. Um but yes to answer both questions together the focus of our Boost program specifically is to bolster the in-home family child care providers in Mountain View um specifically low to moderate income. Um on average child care providers make about $18 an hour in in Mountain View and even in you know other affluent areas like Palo Alto where we're heading into the third year of the program sadly um it's not difficult to find...

9. COUNCIL, STAFF/COMMITTEE REPORTS

[03:30:00] Julie Bernard, Affordable Housing Manager: find the providers that hit that low to moderate income requirement in the beginning of the year. By the end of the year, the goal of the program is really to help them increase revenue, increase capacity, we help them hire a teaching assistant if they're interested and able to do so, we offer a subsidy to help offset those initial, that initial financial burden to bring on a teaching assistant until we can fill in those additional childcare slots to make that position sustainable, and really the goal of the program is to provide these, these childcare providers with all of both the digital tools they need but a really intensive year-long mentorship with the Boost team that has their own lived experience of running successful childcare facilities as well, so that they can be successful well after the program year of funding. I'll pause right there and see if there's any other questions and again I had a public comment prepared but wanted to jump in and answer those questions right off the bat.

[03:31:03] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. Are there other questions?

[03:31:05] Councilmember Alison Hicks: Yeah, no, I think that covers my question. Thank you.

[03:31:08] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. All right, any other colleagues have questions? All right, seeing no other hands, we can open it up to public comment. So we have some in person and virtual. So we'll start with our in person and that is Georgia and then Tom. So we'll allow for three minutes. Welcome.

[03:31:37] Public Speaker Georgia Basil: Good evening. Georgia Basil, I'm the directing attorney of Senior Adults Legal Assistance, SALA. We provide free legal services to Mountain View residents 62 or older. We target clients that are very low income or at risk of abuse or loss of independence. 88 percent of the Mountain View residents we served last year were very low income under HUD guidelines. And 67 percent were 75 or older. We provide our services locally at Mountain View Senior Center once a month and by phone for clients that cannot get to the Senior Center. We are a current CDBG grantee through public services. We thank you so much for that and I wanted to be here personally to do that. We are recommended for funding again and we thank the staff and the commission for the recommendation. We provide a range of civil legal assistance impacting our clients' daily lives. For example, we address income insecurity by assisting clients with legal problems related to the public benefits they rely on, Social Security, SSI, Medicare and Medi-Cal. We address housing instability by assisting clients worried about an eviction, clients needing reasonable accommodations or clients whose housing is in jeopardy. We address loss of autonomy by assisting clients to do basic legal planning so that they can appoint someone they trust to step in and manage their affairs when they can no longer do so. And regrettably, we continue to address elder abuse, usually by someone living in the homes of our clients, an adult child, a grandchild, a tenant they rented out a room to, a caregiver, even their neighbors. And we're attorneys, we go to court, we get elder abuse restraining orders to remove these parties from our clients' homes. We can't charge fees or accept fee-generating cases, we rely pretty much on grants such as CDBG. Over the past two years, we were receiving 150,000 dollars in ARPA COVID-related funding from the Area Agency on Aging and the state bar to expand our services to clients. That funding ended in December. The Older Americans Act is probably going to be in jeopardy, it's our major funder, because of federal policy changes. So your funding is really important now more than ever. If we lose your funding, we will have to reduce services at Mountain View Senior Center and to Mountain View clients in general. So we do appreciate your funding and I'm happy to address any issues or questions you might have.

[03:34:04] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Thank you.

[03:34:11] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Fresh off of your ribbon cutting from your new building!

[03:34:16] Public Speaker Tom Myers: That's right, quite a day. You'll have to excuse me, I'm suffering pretty badly from allergies this year. Uh, good evening, Madam Mayor and councilmembers. I'm Tom Myers, executive director at Community Services Agency. And I originally was going to come up and say simply that we appreciate the partnership that we've had with the city and let you know that I am here with a couple of members of my staff who are here with us tonight to make sure that you know that we value that partnership. But in light of Councilmember Ramirez's remarks, I think it's important to say something a little more. Uh, I have had a long career in nonprofits. I've seen the dot-com bust and the Great Recession. I've seen COVID, and God help us we never go through another AIDS crisis again, and I worked through that. Uh, but I have never seen anything quite as extraordinary as what's going on in Washington right now. Uh, it's truly, truly amazing. Uh, we knew that we were going to be faced with federal funding cuts. We knew that going in.

10. ADJOURNMENT

[03:35:35] Public Speaker Tom Myers: What I didn't realize that right away it would be balanced on the backs of the poorest and the most vulnerable.

[03:35:43] Public Speaker Tom Myers: The first thing CSA received was information that we were going to see a freezing of any federal funding that we got for our food program.

[03:35:53] Public Speaker Tom Myers: That's extraordinary. Our food program, food is the most basic thing.

[03:35:59] Public Speaker Tom Myers: Now we've gone out and we've done some fundraising and we've been...

[03:36:03] Tom Myers: to help with that. But we still don't

[03:36:06] Tom Myers: know if those federal funds will be unfrozen for food. It's a time that we need to understand that cities are going to have burdens placed on them. Non profits are going to have burdens placed on them. And, uh, yeah, I think it would be very easy for us to say, okay, the city needs to step up, but we're all in this together. We cannot expect the city of Mountain View to do everything, stand up. So what you can do. Thank you for that. We appreciate that. But it's gonna take all of us to face this rather extraordinary time. So, as I said, I'm here with my associate director, Amy Kaiser, also with us is Sarah Townsend Hanley, who's actually going to be awarded the Young Athena Award on Friday night, and we're all very proud of that. But we're here to answer any questions, but I did feel that Council member Ramirez, his remarks needed to be amplified. you.

[03:37:08] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you, Tom. All right, uh... Oh, do you have a follow up question, Catherine Ramirez, for...

[03:37:14] Councilmember Lucas Ramirez: Yes. Yes, Mayor, thank you. I appreciate it. And thank you, Tom, for responding. And the same question applies to every applicant, so I'd welcome a similar perspective from others, but I did want to ask you directly, and also of other applicants. I have heard, anecdotally, that it's getting harder to secure funding from philanthropic sources because of crackdowns on DEI and some of the, that type of effort and emphasis. And I'm curious to know if CSA is similarly subject to maybe a loss of source of funding from your typical donors because they're wary of supporting an agency, that stands up for the most vulnerable in our community.

[03:38:04] Tom Myers: Um, CSA has as one of our core values. DEI and B. We add belonging to that, diversity equity, inclusion, and belonging. Those sit prominently front and center on our website, and they're not coming down, at least not as long as I'm executive director, and we've got the team there that we do. Does that put us at risk? Yes, we're probably small enough that we're not going to be anybody's target. Does that mean that we are going to be faced with folks that are going to be asking us those questions? Perhaps. Uh, we haven't yet. One of the things that we do, and have always had is one of our core values, is that we make sure that our revenues are from very diverse sources, so that if federal funding went away, that would affect about 10% of our funding, if the city of Mountain View funding went away, that would have another larger percentage. We also make sure that we are in front and center with individuals within our communities that we serve. And so, that said, we could see ourselves, we have not been targeted yet. And I have a feeling that we are small enough that big players that would target groups that CDEI as a problem are not going to, but we don't know what's going on. I never would have said that food would be the first thing that they would cut. We're in extraordinary times. But it's not coming off of our website, and we're standing tall on that. Thank you, Thomas.

[03:39:49] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Thank you, Mayor. Yeah. Great. Thank you. Our next public commenter is Melanie 4.

[03:40:02] Melanie 4: Melanie, do we lose you? I just, okay, now I'm unneeded. Okay. Sorry. I just got up, uh, thanking you again for uh, giving me the chance to speak. I just wanted to add a few points and answer council member Ramirez's question. Um, I was recently invited to speak at the local Care Workers council meeting in San Jose and actually met with childcare providers from Mountain View. It was like countywide, you know, um, uh, meeting and met with providers from Mountain View who, who shared an urgent need for business support. So these are providers who love caring for children, but often need help marketing and managing enrollment and billing and curriculum planning and more. And these are the very pain points that the boost program can help with. Again, I wanted to kind of get into how, but to jump to the answer for council member Ramirez this question. Part of, you know, the core of the program really is the sustainability. So the idea is that, um, for the cohort, for the 10 providers that we

[03:41:07] Melanie 4: can support in the 1st year, that we would be, um, giving them the tools and training that they need to be successful very long term. Um, boost is not a revenue generating program for upwards. We, um, uh, actually contribute a significant amount to, uh, implement the program in the communities we serve, including San Jose as Alec mentioned, in San Mateo and Palo Alto. Um, we have partnerships offering childcare benefits to um, military members of the Department of Defense, and we work with private employers as well to offer childcare benefits. So that's kind of how our model works. We're committed to the boost program because we are committed to supporting our family childcare providers. And would be very, very thrilled to expand the program in Mountain View and just wanted to thank the staff and committee for their recommendation. And also happy to share that we will be expanding throughout Santa Clara County to the non-entitlement communities as well in the coming year. Um, so really with with this support, we would be able to help the 10 providers who are in most urgent need of help, um, increase their revenue and capacity and create at least 3 new teaching assistant positions and serve over 100 families, um, with helping them find care that suits their unique needs. And all of this is without competing for the very limited public service funds. So that's the benefit of qualifying as an economic development program. So I was really encouraged to see Mountain View step up as an early supporter of the Build the Future initiative. Clearly, the council understands the need for support and loved hearing about council member McAllister's experience as well. So I would just welcome any additional questions. I will send out an email so you will have my contact information so I can give you additional information and key studies in neighboring communities. Thank you again.

[03:43:08] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you very much. I think we'd, the whole council would appreciate any further information to learn more. It'd be great. All right. Seeing no other public commenters in the queue. I'll turn it over to my council colleagues, and I see that we have a motion by council member Ramirez seconded by council member Showalter. So council member Ramirez.

[03:43:31] Councilmember Lucas Ramirez: Thank you mayor. Um, I'm happy to support the staff recommendation. I'm very grateful to both staff and all of the applicants for for stepping up and providing this recommendation to the council. Ordinarily, this is something of a routine action. All of us are generally very happy to support this investment of federal funds and also general funding into programs that support low-income people and vulnerable people in our community. And it's not, I would imagine, I'll probably ask the city manager if she happens to know. I don't think it's typical for a city to invest a non-trivial amount of general fund money into these types of non-profit organizations and agencies. So Mountain View for years, for as long as I've been observing the council, has been a leader in making sure that we invite nonprofits to support folks in our community who are, I think, well served by those agencies that have been able to secure federal funding, but it's never enough. The need is great and the amount of funding that is provided is never enough. I would suggest that as what is occurring at the federal level, continues to unfold, that we start to think a little bit about opportunities to supplement what we've been able to provide. I know that's not an easy thing. We also have our own physical constraints, but the investment at this level, I think, will pay dividends down the road. If we help folks who are on the edge in a precarious situation, at this point, then we might help prevent them from falling into homelessness, where it's much more challenging and much more expensive, to help get folks back into a stable, permanent living environment, for instance, or for folks who, for young people in the community, for instance, who might be struggling academically, some of these programs might help them keep them engaged and keep them in school, and then not have to deal with more challenging situations later in life. So I'm very grateful for everyone who came tonight and spoke and answered my question. But I think it's, right now, it's, this is excellent, and I'm proud to support it, but

[03:46:07] Councilmember Lucas Ramirez: I do think we need to start thinking over the next several years about how we can appropriately, sustainably increase general fund support for many of these organizations and then prioritize that funding, to ensure that we're, we're keeping folks who are in a precarious state, out of homelessness and out of more desperate situations. Thank you.

[03:46:30] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Great. Thank you. Right. And we have a motion on the floor. So, seeing no others in the queue. We can vote. And as we vote, just thank you to our community partners who joined us in person and virtually, and thank you for all the hard work that you do and that the city, you know, commits ourselves to being in the fight with all of you. So that passes unanimously. Um, and, um, city manager McCarthy.

[03:46:59] City Manager Kimbra McCarthy: Thank you, Marin, just to add on to a council member Ramirez just spoke about a reminder that we are doing the community for all grants. So council took a great step in authorizing $100,000, that staff is going to work on to help nonprofits or various organizations, navigate through these uncertain times. So that's also underway. So that's another great step.

[03:47:25] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Great. Thank you. Thank you for that important reminder. So as we transition to item eight, um, we're just going to take a quick 5 minute um, break for, um, for counsel, and we'll see you, um, back here at 855.

[03:55:06] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Item 8.1 is our recommended fiscal year 2025 through 26 through fiscal year 2029 30 Capital Improvement Program. Public works directly. Jennifer Ing, and Assistant Public Works director Jennifer Ing, will present the item. If you'd like to speak on this item in person. Please submit a blue speaker card to the assistant city clerk now.

[03:55:37] Jennifer Ing: Thank you, Mayor, and members of the city council. Again, Jennifer Inng, director of Public Works, next to me on my left, Ed Arango, Assistant Public Works director and city engineer, and we'll be discussing the five-year FY 2526 through FY 2930 CIP. So this year, fix my mic here. This year, our approach to the CIP is a little bit different. We're going to do a reset. Oops, next slide, please. Thank you. We're going to do a reset and take a more strategic approach to the development of the five-year CIP. My focus for this time is making sure that projects in the 1st year are funded and that staff resources are available to start the projects in the fiscal year they're identified. And this way, we're going to be pushing an emphasis on project delivery. Hearing the voices of the residents. We're also looking to incorporate active transportation improvements into our CIP. So our first round of input came at the end of March, where we had study session number one with you. At that study session, we reaffirmed the criteria that was applied to utilization of unrestricted CIP funds. We also listened to the council's priorities for projects, of which projects were higher priority, and which projects were lesser priority, and incorporated that feedback into the five year CIP. On the slide deck here. The checkmarks indicate which projects feedback were included in the CIP. And as you can see, the only one that was not included is the Central Expressway bike imped crossing project, which is really just a reflection of Caltrain's inability to provide project management services to work on that project right now. Following that, we went to the BPAC at the beginning of April, and we listened to that group discuss which projects they saw as priority, and which ones they saw as less priority. That feedback was mostly incorporated into the five-year CIP, with 10 of the 13 items identified included in the five-year CIP. And you can see those checkmarks on those boxes here. So I talked earlier about 2 nuances for our strategic approach to the CIP, which is funding and staffing resources. So the 1st step we do is we start with figuring out how much funding and how much money is available, by closing out completed projects, and releasing project funding for projects that are moving to years to the 5, 2 through 5. We've made sufficient funding available for year one projects. This returned 13 million to various funding sources, and the money's already been committed to projects in the recommendation. You can see, notably, $2 million was returned to the CIP reserve and $3 million to the CCTex Fund. One project

[03:58:33] Jennifer Ing: that we do want to highlight is the 1020 Terabella Undergrounding Utilities project that's proposed to be defunded. This project currently has 2.750000 in funding to underground approximately 500 linear feet of overhead utility wires along the Alta housing project frontage. Estimates are rising, and design has not yet started. We anticipate that cost will continue to escalate, and in this era of declining revenues and needing unrestricted funds for other city priorities, it is recommended to close and defund this project. Excuse me. So the 2nd step is really to align workload with staffing resources. Our focus in this 1st year is to add a limited number of new projects and work on our current backlog. So this means for fiscal year 2526. We will initiate 51 projects with 28 projects focused on nondiscretionary work. And that is consistent with the priorities we heard from study session number one. 11 new discretionary, 12 reprogrammed backlog projects. Out of those 51 projects, if you are listed with the intent of committing funds, but due to staffing availability, likely will not start until years 2 or 3. Also, at that first study session, there was robust discussion around paving and arterials in particular. So I want to show you that our planned work for the next three years includes a good amount of collector and arterial streets. Approximately 70% of our allocated paving budget is for arterials and collectors, so our major thoroughfares. We've listed those street segments here on this slide, along with the bike lanes that are anticipated to be created or improved. I also want to point out that there are 45 existing CIPs with active transportation and vision zero elements included. So we're keeping an eye on including those types of improvements when we can working within the restrictions of paving funding. So here's our approach and our strategy to roadways moving forward. We want to continue the course for paving projects, which invest back into our infrastructure, and keep a nice blend of both thoroughfares and residential streets, since maintenance of both of those street classifications are critical to keeping our overall PCI up. Every 2 years, on even years, we evaluate streets for condition. And that work will start in early 2026. Around that time frame, the active transportation plan and the biodiversity plan will be completing, and we'll be able to nicely blend all three reports together to develop our prioritization plan for roadways, and also identify unrestricted funds needed to supplement the paving projects. Simultaneously. We want to continue our focus on including safety elements from Vision Zero, into our paving designs and include after transportation elements, primarily through roadway restriping. One thing we want to flag for you is that there's a trend in the increase of number of CIP projects that are large, and we're defining large here is over $20 million in valuation. As you can imagine, these projects consume significant staff resources over a several year period of time, a couple of projects that we have in this category with not yet identified construction funding, or the Rangsdorf Avenue grade separation, and Stevens Creek Trail Extension. And then other projects that are also in this category, the $20 million plus, include the public safety building, and you'll see a funding plan coming forward for that in early June, and the North Bay Shore recycled water reservoir. And I just want to point out that we recently completed the Ring Store Aquatic Center, which falls in this large project category. So next steps moving forward. The first circle is where we're at tonight. Tomorrow night, we will share the list of projects with the park and rec commission. And then on June 24th, we're hoping for council adoption of the five year CIP. So with that, I'll leave you with staff's recommendation for tonight, and that is to approve the draft recommended fiscal year, 2526, through fiscal year, 2930, CIP. So thank you for listening, and we're happy to take questions now.

[04:03:01] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Great. Thank you, so we'll start with council questions. Council member Clark.

[04:03:05] Councilmember Chris Clark: Just one quick one on, in a previous session, we talked about, uh, the California Street pilot, you know, needing a year or so to evaluate the results after everything's done, and then, um, you know, tweaking whatever we need to tweak in order to move to the um, the permanent, um, permanent construction. And my assumption was that it would just kind of get pushed

[04:03:29] Councilmember Chris Clark: out a year or so, but now it's not on the unscheduled list. And so I think the message that that sent to some folks was that it's no longer a priority. And so I just wanted to get a sense for, um, I assume we're still committed to like a permanent solution. There assuming the trial goes well and I just didn't know in your mind what the timing of the permanent construction should be if it's on unscheduled.

[04:03:50] Jennifer Ing: We're still planning to do permanent improvements. I think really what we're planning to do is finish the construction, which is just starting. Give ourselves an evaluation period for the different vertical elements and different types of things that we're hoping to evaluate. So that'll take maybe a year or so. And then depending on what we land on, and what we decide should move forward for permanent improvements is really going to drive the cost of the project. And so it would be kind of, um, is disingenuous, the right word. It would be presumptuous of me to try to put a project into the CIP without really knowing how much it costed. So that's really why it fell onto unfunded.

[04:04:29] Councilmember Chris Clark: That makes sense. But the temporary improvements, they're sufficient to last a few years. They're not going to fall apart or anything. Correct.

[04:04:39] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Great. Thank you, Council member Hicks.

[04:04:44] Councilmember Alison Hicks: Yeah, so my question is, I guess it's one big question here. I like the approach of resetting and right sizing, and especially, I liked reading about the right sizing, so there's capacity left for projects coming out of our new active transportation plan. Oh, that was good. My question is, um, I guess it's a two part question. Uh, I, I, we also have, uh, biodiversity, plan, urban forestry plan, and some climate mitigation planning. All three of those, I mean, climate mitigation, a lot of it is trees, actually, for all three. A lot of them are trees and green elements. So, when I hear about the, um, leaving space for active transportation, it seems like it's not the green elements, um, correct me if I'm wrong. Um, I would like to know how we might, um, in addition to making capacity for the kind of the, um, part of the paving projects that are active transportation, like the repainting and the bollards, how we would make space for, um, non-paving projects that might come out of our active transportation plan, our biodiversity plan, our climate mitigation, and our urban forestry, where will we make space for those, and where can we find funding?

[04:06:30] Jennifer Ing: Sure. So, really, when I say we're including active transportation elements as part of paving, it's because really our paving money at this point is restricted to what we can do between our curbs. And so the easy and foundational act of transportation elements that we can include as part of paving projects generally are striping, maybe some vertical elements to delineate bike lanes, crosswalks, things of those nature, right? When we get to beyond the curb when we're talking about, um, green elements, like living elements, um, that's typically not covered by paving plans and paving paving money. And so, when I said earlier that we need to marry the three plans together, the paving criteria, the active transportation plan and the biodiversity plan. It's really with the intent of, you know, looking at the street as a whole, and finding instances and where we might want to add green elements, and then finding those unrestricted funds to be able to fund, um, those elements that paving funds can't support.

[04:07:41] Councilmember Alison Hicks: So some of this I may bring up later as comments, because in, there were suggestions of where we might find money that staff made in the, in addressing some council members' questions, in the council questions. So I will that will not be a question. I'll leave that for my comments. But I guess what I'm asking, another way of asking it is do you, I would hate to make those plans. You know, the biodiversity plan, the urban forestry, the climate mitigation, and then not have room for them in the five year CIP, and say, Oh, we're gonna do them, you know, five years from now, 10 years from now, 15 years from now when we make the plans this year. Where can you see us having money for the things that will come out of those plans?

[04:08:28] Jennifer Ing: The beauty of a council approved plan is that it is something that the council has approved, and we can all get behind then moving forward as we're developing our next set of CIPs. So I think it's just a discussion to be had at that time as to where the council priorities lay at that moment.

[04:08:44] City Manager Kimbra McCarthy: I see a possible other answer, in addition to that answer.

[04:08:51] John Marchant: Good evening, John Marchant Community Services Director, one of the funds that was referenced in the council questions was a tree mitigation fund, of which we have approximately a quarter million dollars in that fund currently. Look, oh, we expect to have some more funding revenue streams into that fund. And so that is an opportunity for us to look at, to supplement any other projects, active transportation projects, to help green some of those projects. So correctly, if I'm not remembering, right?

[04:09:22] Councilmember Pat Showalter: from reading the stack report, because it was a lot of reading. Isn't the tree mitigation fund, wasn't it for removal of trees? Does it also include planting more trees than you remove? So there's separate CIPs?

[04:09:37] John Marchant: There is a CIP for removal, and also some planting, but then we also have a tree mitigation fund that is separate, and it is, we've basically been holding onto some of those funds to see the outcomes and recommendations out of the biodiversity plan, and so that we can start implementing those sooner than later. Once it's...

[04:09:55] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Okay, great. approved. Thank you. Great, thank you, Council member Shel Walter.

[04:10:04] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Thank you. I just want to compliment you, first off, on this presentation. I really thought the study report was pretty well written, but it came across, to me anyway, much better in the presentation. So thank you for all those infographics. I love those. Anyway, that's a comment, of course. I cheated a little bit. So bike counts. One of the things that's mentioned here is a bike count projects, and it's, and I, it doesn't seem to get a lot of priority, and I wondered, how are bike counts useful, and, and how are they difficult to do? I mean, sort of, where do they fit in in the picture of us deciding, um, how to put together our, um, our, uh, bicycle network, and are they expensive?

[04:11:04] Unknown Speaker: So counts in general, whether they're for cars or vehicles or pedestrians are not super expensive. I'm not sure if you're referring to the bike count project that was listed on the BPAC. Yeah, so that was one of their priorities. That project was to install permanent bike counters throughout the city. Right now, we do bike counts on an as needed basis. depending on what type of project we're doing or how we're affecting the roadway geometry or whether we're trying to install a new bike facility will dictate whether or not we take bike counts or not, as well as how old our current bike counts are.

[04:11:45] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Okay, but if we were to put in these automatic ones, then we'd sort of keep a better running tab of how much our bike lanes were used, I guess.

[04:11:54] Unknown Speaker: We would be able to start gathering data for trans, yes.

[04:11:57] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Okay, thank you. All right. Um, and then, uh, I was going to ask the question that, um, council member Clark asked about the, the pilot project for, um, California Street, and I, I appreciate the answer to that. So basically, um, you can't really put, until you've done the pilot project, you don't really know what the permanent outcome is gonna be, so you don't know what we, okay, that makes perfect sense. Then one of the things that is on the unscheduled list is the construction of the Stevens Creek Trail extension. And I was wondering if putting it on the unscheduled list has a deleterious effect of applying for grants, because you can't, or what would be the impact of that, would there be an impact? Because I know, or I hope, we'll get quite a bit of money from grants.

[04:12:57] Ed Arango, Assistant Public Works Director: Thank you for the question, Edorango, Assistant Public Works director, there would be no impact. The way that we've programmed the project is really 2 phases. The 1st phase, which is the preliminary design, which is funded today, and we've started the effort, is really the driver for the next step, which is the full design, and the ability to go after grant funds. It really defines that we

[04:13:21] Ed Arango, Assistant Public Works Director: have started design. And once we're further

[04:13:23] Councilmember Pat Showalter: along in the design process, we'll identify costs associated with a project. And then that way we can target grant funding opportunities to apply for. The construction phase really is a placeholder. We don't know when the construction would be, and we can bring that forward at any time.

[04:13:44] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Thank you. Okay. So another one, I had a, I really enjoyed going through attachment four. Um, it's the one of the, um, the projects by year. And when I got to, I think, not page 29, but close to page 29, it dawned on me, that it seemed like in every grouping, the first three pages were pretty much the same, which is basically to say that we have, we have jobs that need to be done on an annual basis, that are repetitious. So, um, I just wanted to share that with everybody, 'cause it took me a long time to figure it out, and I wanted to confirm, that is in case that's the case. Okay. So one of the things that I found hopeful, and I wanted to confirm this with you, is the project called Forestry Maintenance Program and Street Tree Breplanting, which shows up. Um, I'm sure, um, our, uh, community services development is developer, and John Marshand is very familiar with this. Contract to prune, remove, stump, purchase, and plant approximately 800 to 1,000 medium to large trees within the city. This is there every year. Right? So, that's my question. This is there every year. And is this potentially what would be used to marry our greening of our streets, our infrastructure, along with our paving projects.

[04:15:24] Ed Arango, Assistant Public Works Director: Good evening, once again. Thank you for the question. So that CIP is used for, as it states, multiple factors. Part of that is going back through and removing some of the stumps that have been left behind from previous pruning or tree removals, also to complete tree removals during or trimming during emergencies. That's where we've seen a huge increase in costs over the last couple of years, is just emergency during storms, and being able to come through and making sure the community is safe, and providing access when limbs come down anotherwise. And then there's also funds available to plant those trees, and, yes, that's an annual basis. We have had some staffing resources, so we had some staffing vacancies over the last few years. So we're looking to rebound from not quite meeting those tree counts, and as we move forward and also be able to utilize the funds to help support the transportation projects. Yes.

[04:16:24] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Is this something we also do with canopy, or is that completely separate?

[04:16:29] Ed Arango, Assistant Public Works Director: So it's in conjunction with canopy? Yes. Okay.

[04:16:33] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Not all of it. certain planting projects? And, and...

[04:16:36] Ed Arango, Assistant Public Works Director: Roughly, how many trees do we have in this city?

[04:16:39] Councilmember Pat Showalter: I can't remember. It's thousands, but I don't...

[04:16:42] Ed Arango, Assistant Public Works Director: Tens of thousands, yes. Tens of thousands. Okay.

[04:16:44] Councilmember Pat Showalter: All right, so 1,000 trees is not a very huge percentage of our canopy to increase on an annual basis, but it is, it's a lot of trees.

[04:16:54] Ed Arango, Assistant Public Works Director: It is a lot of trees, and that includes trees that are, that we give away during the free tree giveaway each year, as part of Arbor Day. Yes.

[04:17:03] Councilmember Pat Showalter: But anyway, it's a place where we could have this, you know, this marriage between the toothpicks. Okay.

[04:17:09] Ed Arango, Assistant Public Works Director: Correct. And... You can go ahead down if you want.

[04:17:16] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Yeah. Okay, sorry, Dr. Marshawn. There is a follow-up question. Just to follow up on that. So I'm imagining that with the urban forestry plan and the biodiversity plan that we increased the amount of tree planting. So is the number in there? Is it the same as in the past, or is it increasing it, for going to increase?

[04:17:38] Ed Arango, Assistant Public Works Director: So sometimes we seem to be getting ahead of ourselves in the dialogue with biodiversity and urban forest plan, so we...

[04:17:44] Councilmember Pat Showalter: I probably am. I sorry. We would like to come to you first. Uh huh.

[04:17:49] Ed Arango, Assistant Public Works Director: Within that plan will be recommendations. Review those recommendations, and then we'll be able to move forward with some new updated standards or tree counts as part of review of that project. And so...

[04:18:05] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Yeah, that is what I'm confused. So we can increase the dollar amount at that point, you're saying.

[04:18:10] Ed Arango, Assistant Public Works Director: There will be some recommendations through the plan that I think will be helpful. We haven't seen the entire document

[04:18:15] Ed Arango, Assistant Public Works Director: yet, but, um, anticipating some of those recommendations, um, parts of the city that we are tree deficit, so that we can look at and also look at locations that have been identified for future planting.

[04:18:27] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Okay, yeah, I think that's what I'm... So we're not hampered by the current CIP decision. We can do it at that time.

[04:18:33] Ed Arango, Assistant Public Works Director: Thank you so much. Yeah. Okay, just two more. Yes.

[04:18:37] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Shoreline, uh, the Shoreline 101 Bike Ped Bridge. Um, I just wondered how likely that is to be constructed in the next few years, given the, um, sort of the dip in, uh, development out in the North Bay Shore. And, um, why that, that's, uh, Is that a like, you think that's a likely project? Or do we already have a lot of money for it? Or where, where is that?

[04:19:15] Ed Arango, Assistant Public Works Director: Thank you for the question. So this is the Shoreline 101 bike ped bridge, um, that's parallel to Shoreline that is going to be crossing 101. We provided a response in the council questions. This is one of the projects that we're recommending to close in the following fiscal year. Right now, there is some closeout work that's needed in order for us to do that. We took it through some level of concept design, and we want to be able to package that effort up so that way our future selves can pick up a document that says, this is as far as we got. This would be the next steps. and then close out the project. And that's going to take us a little bit more time. Hopefully by the end of this calendar year. And then we'd come back this time next year and recommend closure.

[04:20:00] Councilmember Pat Showalter: That makes good sense. Thank you. And then one more question is, is there a way to combine the Ringsdorf Green Complete Streets project with the work that we're doing for the railroad separation? I know that there's a lot of right of way, acquisition, and, you know, there's work that has to be done on that project that isn't just the separation. Can things be combined, or are they completely separate?

[04:20:27] Ed Arango, Assistant Public Works Director: We want to keep them separate. Okay. Yeah.

[04:20:30] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Once Caltrain is involved, we went to keep them separate. Thank you.

[04:20:37] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. Okay, Council member Ramirez.

[04:20:40] Councilmember Lucas Ramirez: Thank you, Mayor. I have, I guess, follow up questions related to the shoreline 101 Bridge. So, or maybe it's a broader question about, um, what gets included in the five-year CIP and what ongoing work doesn't get included. So we're about to, it sounds like we're about to close the, uh, bike ped bridge over 101, project 16 dash 60. But we don't include, for instance, where is it, the Caltrain electrification project, which is ongoing, it's near complete, but it hasn't been closed yet. It's not going to be closed this fiscal year. So I'm having trouble understanding why they feel like comparable projects insofar as they're sort of, they're not, there's not a lot of significant work remaining, but one is in the five-year CAP in year one and one is not. It's just an active project. So what's the difference and why do we include the bike ped bridge over 101?

[04:22:01] Ed Arango, Assistant Public Works Director: The um, the Calstrain Electrification Project, as we approach, so let me step back. The way the staff's approaches closing projects, it's evaluating the status of the project as we're nearing the end of the fiscal year. So we're tracking projects and we expect we can close them, but sometimes additional work is needed and we're just not quite ready because there's a hard closure on June 30th once we close it. July 1st, that project no longer exists. So the capturing electrification project fell in the category of, we thought we could actually close it this fiscal year. And we're finding out now that it's likely not going to be able to get done. We're just going to need the summer to get it through. And we didn't put it in the year one because we're just so close to closing the project. But again, we're not planning on doing any more work. We just need an agreement to get finalized, fees to get refunded, and then we can close it. And we think we can do that pretty much during the summer, but we were just so close. And there isn't any, um, other reasoning behind that why we didn't include that one in

[04:23:06] Councilmember Lucas Ramirez: the year one and the pet bike bread bridge, not in year one and the other one, not in year one. There is real work with the bike ped bridge that we need to do, to wrap that up and it's going to take some time.

[04:23:17] Councilmember Lucas Ramirez: So I guess I'm, it sounds like it's more of an art than a science. Should we, the community in the council presume that if it's in the five-year CIP in year one, there is a significant amount of work, and if there is an active project that's not in the CIP, then

[04:23:38] Ed Arango, Assistant Public Works Director: it's not a significant amount of work, is that sort of the distinction?

[04:23:43] Ed Arango, Assistant Public Works Director: Yeah, um, I like why you mentioned, and this is more of an art, um, and it is. And we're just, we're gauging the level of work that's required. to get through completion. And this one is, it's pretty light, but we just need a little more time to get through that effort.

[04:23:55] Councilmember Lucas Ramirez: Okay. And then is that true also for the Charleston Road improvements, design and construction? It sounds from the responses to council questions that the intent is to close that project. We can't close it this fiscal year, so there's some work remaining, but it's not a huge amount of work, but it's non trivial. And so that's why it's included in year one.

[04:24:17] Ed Arango, Assistant Public Works Director: If you think about it as a function of staff time, anything that we can wrap up fairly quickly over the summer, maybe just a few weeks' worth of remaining work. We've left off the list, anything that's going to take a little bit longer and consume more staffing resources. Beyond that, we've included.

[04:24:32] Councilmember Lucas Ramirez: Okay, so would there be a reason why we retain the Charleston Road improvements? In other words, if the council is looking to create staff capacity to advance higher priority projects and we eliminate that, what does that mean? What does that mean for the project and for the organization?

[04:24:54] Ed Arango, Assistant Public Works Director: State that question again. I'm sorry, I missed the first half.

[04:24:56] Councilmember Lucas Ramirez: No problem. So, um, I guess I'm trying to understand if if the council's interested in creating staff capacity to advance higher priority projects. I don't think this project is high priority for this council, I would imagine. What would it mean if we were to remove the Charleston Road improvements, design, and construction project from year one, the five-year CIP list? Does that, what does that do for the project and the organization, and does that create staff capacity that we can use for a higher priority project? It's not a significant amount of capacity that is, um, that is created by removing it from year one, because really we're just carrying over a little bit of extra work for year run year one to complete what's already been started.

[04:25:43] Councilmember Lucas Ramirez: Okay. Okay, thank you. Those are my questions.

[04:25:48] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Great. Thank you, Council member McAllister. Yes, um,

[04:25:51] Councilmember John McAlister: I'd like to get a little clarification on the Stevens Creek Trail, where it goes from Dale to Remington. So I'm looking at a map on it. And basically, there's got to be more going to Remington because it's all on city streets.

[04:26:06] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Sorry. I'm sorry, you are recused from talking about the Stevens Creek Trail. So as long as... You asked for it. Okay. Um, so, I was allowing questions related to it, but you're the only council member that's recused from that item, so to the extent that there is gonna be discussion about that later, you would actually have to leave the room, so I'm sorry.

[04:26:31] Councilmember John McAlister: If the council asked about that, if it went over to the high school, they could do that?

[04:26:35] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: I... Okay, I'll go to the next school.

[04:26:39] Councilmember John McAlister: Sorry. That's okay. I made your day. My 2nd question. It's, oh, that could be recused from that one too. Uh, McKelvey Ballpark. Okay, no, she hasn't said anything. So, when, where is that on that project to get that?

[04:26:57] Ed Arango, Assistant Public Works Director: was built in 2020, and we've never been able to see home plates. So why isn't that a high priority of just letting our taxpayers know that there was a mistake and we're gonna correct it as soon as possible. So good news for you. It is in the works. We're currently working through a funding agreement with Valley Water to get, I believe it's a quarter of a million dollars from them. We'll add that to other money that we have earmarks set

[04:27:22] Councilmember John McAlister: aside, and start a design, and figure out a fix for that vision issue.

[04:27:29] Councilmember John McAlister: So, this has been going on for five years. So, and Valley Water, this is the 1st amount of money they're going to give us.

[04:27:37] Ed Arango, Assistant Public Works Director: The entire project was Valley Water project, right? And there was contribution from the city. I think just over COVID, and I don't know exactly why this one sort of fell off for a few years, but my understanding is over that time period, but now we're picking it back up and restarting it.

[04:27:53] Councilmember John McAlister: And Valley Water has given you the money?

[04:27:54] Ed Arango, Assistant Public Works Director: We're working through a funding agreement right now.

[04:27:57] Councilmember John McAlister: Okay, and how long does that usually take?

[04:28:00] Ed Arango, Assistant Public Works Director: Uh, I'm hoping pretty quick.

[04:28:02] Councilmember John McAlister: Oh, okay, so you work with Valley Water before, so that's why we're at those questions. Okay. Thank you.

[04:28:11] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Okay, do any other colleagues have questions? All right, so we will open things up to public comment. So we'll take in person first, and then we'll move on to virtual. I think we'll just stick with our 2 minutes that we've been doing tonight, and we have April Webster. Then Celia Paymer, and then we'll move on to virtual unless there's any other individual who'd like to speak in person. So April, and then Celia.

[04:28:52] April Webster: Hi. Thank you. So, as I have views, I reviewed this year's sip. I felt like I'd stepped back into the 1980s, dropping a highway to hell cassette into my ghetto blaster. The emphasis on paving makes it feel like we were still designing for Regan era, highway traffic, not the climate resilient people centered and livable communities we've been calling for. Jokes aside, thanks to council leadership, we have a strong vision and plans. We have a community that keeps showing up for livability and safety, climate action, and green complete streets. Now is the time to keep the burner on. By translating those priorities into clear design standards, and a well-defined green, complete streets fund. We consistently fund cars through pavements, so why can't we fund people and livability through wider sidewalks, protected bike lanes, street trees, and parks. These aren't extras. During the presentation, it was stated that the city plans to prioritize safe streets through restriping. Paint isn't protection. Paint is not a substitute for real infrastructure. San Jose Campbell and San Mateo are all building green, complete streets to meet their MRP, water premit goals. Caltrans requires complete streets elements in every single PB project under SB960. If the Titanic concur can turn, surely we can, too. So I'm asking. Adopt a policy requiring paving projects to integrate complete streets like Caltrans does, incorporate our own policy in our general plan to evaluate streets for green infrastructure, restore the green designation for California complete streets, and upgrade others like Middlefield and Moffett. Invest in staff training, and create a complete green complete streets fund to ensure we can build what we planned. Thank you. Thank you.

[04:30:58] Celia Paymer: Hello. Um, I made it in person now. So I'm silly Pamer, Mountain View resident. So I was just concerned by a couple things, details I see in the work plan report. There seems to be some errors and inconsistencies with facts presented. It appears that council direction and community input has been overlooked in some of them. One thing I noticed was that Questa Park was listed as 35 acres. This is incorrect. Quest Park is closer to 25 acres. Seems that staff has confused the open space of quest to annex as part of the park, even though it has the quest to annex master plan that was voted in 2006 after the city spent a quarter of a million dollars on creating a plan that involved hundreds of hours of community input. The park in the annex have their own distinct plans and should not be confused. This is why it was also appalling, that staff included the recommendation of a pickleball court in the annex in their work plan memo. Why do we spend 1000000s of dollars creating master plans that council votes to approve, built on community input if we were going to just ignore them on a whim? I am also, once again, concerned that Green has been removed from the title of the California Complete Streets project, even though it was a major emphasis given by community members during the pilot project design and unanimously approved by council. The green elements were deferred from the

[04:32:17] Celia Paymer: pilot project, but the community was told they would be in the permanent project. Why are project titles being changed without a vote by council to indicate a desire for the project scope change? Finally, I'm extremely concerned that the unrestricted fund priorities puts the PCI as an assumed priority. Visually, it appears to be an even higher priority than all the council priorities, from the work plan. Why is the PCI brought to council as an option to put on the work plan if staff is planning to prioritize it with or without council approval as a priority? Finally, as public safety is listed as the first priority on the unrestricted funds list, I really look forward to seeing all the bike and pedestrian safety projects move to the front of the project lists, as we are saddened and tired.

[04:33:01] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Thank you. Thank you. Any other in person public comment? All right, not seeing any, we'll move on to virtual. We have Cliff Chambers, followed by Bruce England, followed by Jesse Cubb. Hello, Cliff.

[04:33:18] Cliff Chambers: Hi, uh, Cliff Chambers, resident of Mountain View. First, I'm really pleased, and 100% support the effort for having a year one CIP that can actually be completed, funded, and actually uh, deliver. Like many others, when I 1st read the staff report, I really didn't feel like there was a really balanced approach that both the council and the community wanted to put forward. But after reading the response to questions, council questions, and the dialogue that we've heard today, I feel like our new public works director is really making strides to meet community needs, and particularly on green of our infrastructure. I have three suggestions. First is, I really like the revised table 2 and the response to questions. I really feel we need to link, paving projects, to active transportation, and really adopt a Green Street policy that allows us to put things forward so that we have a win-win situation, new paving, but also active transportation projects. I, uh, agree in terms of the California Street project, but you can put it as a placeholder in year 2 for design and uh, year 3 for construction of the California Street. And really, I do believe it should be the California green, uh, green, concrete streets. And finally, I'd really like to have the uh, uh, bike wig replaced with uh, the rank store, uh, complete street in year one. I really feel that Reinstorf is a real priority and should really receive treatment, and I hope that the council agrees with me.

[04:35:13] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Thank you. Thank you. Next up is Bruce England.

[04:35:20] Bruce England: Thank you, Mayor. For single and again, Lisbon Station Drive. I've personally been hearing quite a bit in the last week or so through my community networks on this agenda item. And in short, the interest I'm hearing is focused primarily on moving city project emphasis from increased hardscape to more work on greening our city, such as increasing tree canopy, tea paving, and incorporating green complete streets as much as possible. As stated in the comment letter from Green Space's Mountain View, we appreciate that the current general plan states policy for Green Streets, which is policy, INC 8.6, in the Stormwater category. But we're concerned about how the city will realize the vision for green streets without proactively designing them and providing funding. And it's clear to us the city should start working on the new general plan updates soon. In order to hit a 2030 target date and to incorporate new concepts the community's been asking for, and emphasizing since the current plan adoption in 2012. In addition to points we made in our green spaces letter, we are well aware that many others in the community share our concerns, as well as those from you on council. But we'd like to be more confident that city staff and the consultants are hearing and responding to what we're saying. We would like to see our community values and priorities reflected adequately in the CIP planning. As you know, Mountain View is a special place and it's community input that helps ensure it will remain so. Thank you. Thank you Jesse Cupp.

[04:36:43] Jesse Cupp: Hello. Um, Yeah, thanks for your time. I generally support the direction things are moving in. I think, I think, I'm happy with the direction the city's going. I just want to reiterate support for a couple things. So I support improvements here for Crosswalks

[04:37:01] Jesse Cupp: in general, across the city, creating more pocket parks and linear parks. Building paseos and bike pedestrian paths, just all kinds of, um, active transportation tools generally in infrastructure. These initiatives would help encourage 0 carbon transportation. I also support more bike and pedestrian bridges, like the furline 101 bridge. Um, and in order to be a truly green city, we need to make active transportation easier than driving a single occupancy vehicle. So it should be easier, safer, more desirable, more enjoyable, and we need to prioritize that. Um, to meet city tropicals, especially in North Bay Shore, we need more protected bike lanes, specifically we need protected bike lanes on rainstorf and Shoreline. And on San Antonio to a lesser extent. As, uh, some stretches of those roads have some bike fans, um, and some don't. But those painted bike lanes aren't protecting anybody. And I think you see that reflected in the number of people willing to ride their bikes there, especially when there's heavy traffic. It feels pretty dangerous. So, I think once we get protected bike lanes in there, you're going to see, um, some reduction in traffic, more people biking to work and just safer streets in general, and that's what we need. So thank you for your time.

[04:38:18] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Thank you. Next up is James Kuzmo.

[04:38:24] James Kuzmo: Good evening. James Cousmo speaking for myself. Um, I appreciate some of the improvements that the CAP has, I think, experienced since, um, it was 1st presented. Um, I wanted to say I do hope that we, when we're doing these paving projects that happen to include macro transportation improvements that we make sure that we actually do those and emphasize that now, as, um, the director of public works was mentioning that if that can include things like vertical elements for some actual physical protection of bike wings that will be exceptionally valuable for improving safety. Um, But I do want to make sure we actually catch that and don't forget about it when we go to do the projects. Um, And in terms of general priorities, when looking at trade-offs between projects, I hope that the city is looking for prioritizing safety, basically making sure that every 100,000 or $10000 or spending is going towards making it so that fewer people will be dying on our streets over the next few years. To that end, I will say when I look at trade-offs between projects, things like the more permanent conclusion of the California street improvements are probably actually lower priority than things like making any improvements happen to rain store faster. The, um, pilot project that we're doing constructing on California Street right now will improve safety meaningfully. And there may be some low hanging fruit still remaining after that, but, um, more substantial expenditures may make sense to do after we have been able to do the low hanging fruit on other high injury and high traffic corridors like rainstorms. you. Thank you. Renee?

[04:40:17] Renee: Hi, can you hear me? Yes. Thank you. Um, I would just like to say that I would love more green project. that support livable city, uh, that include more trees and biodiversity. My kids are young right now, and they currently scooter with my husband and I to school every day, but they scooter home on their own. Very soon, they're going to be scootering or biking completely on their own to and from school. Also, my husband rises bike to work every day. That's 5 miles there, 5 miles back. I just want to feel that they're safe, and the safety, when they're doing this independently. Also, I just want to know that my family, my neighbors, my whole community can just feel safer on the streets. Thank you so much.

[04:41:05] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. All right, I'm not seeing any other hands in the queue, so I'll bring the item back for counsel deliberation and action. And I believe this is a, there's a recommended action for for this item. Council member Hicks.

[04:41:29] Councilmember Alison Hicks: So I'm hoping that with this CIP, we can, this five-year CIP plan, we can start to see, and I think we are starting to see a paradigm shift. from, uh, you know, I like, I think I said this with my questions. I like the idea, the new approach, the resetting and right sizing, um, and especially the right sizing, so there's, well, so we can get things actually get things on the list

[04:41:55] Councilmember Alison Hicks: done. And also so that there's capacity left for projects coming out of the active transportation plan. In terms, I'm seeing several projects that were mentioned, I think we've mentioned them in the discussion tonight, and then also in the council questions, as possible ones that we could defer and replace. So I'll throw some of them out here, and if I would appreciate other council members if you have other recommendations to kind of focus on community needs, requests, active transportation, green streets, et cetera. So, um, one of them is, uh, there was a suggestion that we not do the Terabella project, would be the 2230 Terabella Avenue bike wave feasibility study. And also, when the council questions was deferring the El Camino Median landscaping until after we do the biodiversity planning. Both of those were in the questions, and those were things that the staff seemed to respond affirmatively, too, tell me if I'm wrong. Um, So maybe we could cut or defer those and replace them with the, um, the Renksdorf project, and also, um, California complete green streets. If it's been, if any of the green elements have been dropping out. So those are two things that I, well, maybe that's four things altogether.

[04:43:42] Councilmember John McAlister: Yeah. Before you, before you continue, can I ask staff about that and what does that actually mean? And, um, do we need to know anything else, do anything else?

[04:43:58] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Well, I don't have a I don't have emotion yet, but I'm hearing, yeah. So thank you. Thank you, council member McAllister. So, um, I think just before we get into it, it sounds like creating different changes. I'd just love to know if there was emotion on the floor. So there's emotion, love a second. Thank you, council member show alter. Okay, and then kind of ask staff, is this the level of detail where you'd like us to, um, highlight and express those that maybe are of interest, or, um, is it that we should be highlighting ones just to let you know, or is this where I need to be taking some straw polls and just love some clarity from staff on that before the list continues?

[04:44:42] City Manager Kimbra McCarthy: Thank you very much. Thank you, Mayor. So I think it would probably make sense for the public works director, assistant director, to at least respond if this would change anything with the current plans with the Ringsdorf, um, complete green streets and the California, complete green streets. Um, if it is a desire of counsel to make sure that we're reflecting that in the title of the projects, we can certainly do that. Um, not sure if this will change the trajectory of the project. So I think staff will need to talk about that.

[04:45:22] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Great. Thank you. Appreciate that. Director Ang.

[04:45:25] Director Ang: Thank you, Kim Brown. Thank you, mayor. Thanks for the opportunity to comment on this. So the Terabella Bike Way study actually has started. We're at the very beginning phases, and we've hired a consultant. So if counsel were to decide to essentially pull the plug on this project. Uh, we would forfeit the money that has already been spent, um, and then that money would then be really, unexpended funds, right, would be returned back to their original funding source. In this case, we've had a recent loss of a significant staffing person on our transportation planning team. And so, um, stopping this particular project and putting another one in its place, um, really isn't possible, this time due to staffing constraints, um, in a few months, once we figure out how we're going to backfill that. Really, what it does is stopping this project would allow other projects to just continue at a slightly more accelerated pace.

[04:46:21] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. Got the Remix, is that helpful or perhaps it sounds like the, at least for the Terabella, it sounds like those funds are already expended. Partially. So are you proposing? So I would say, I would say, is staff interested in straw motions on this? I heard 4 different projects, or 4 different projects listed, and I would love some staff clarity on this.

[04:46:54] City Attorney Jennifer Logue: So if there is going to be some moving around, then we're going to definitely need some straw poles, but I also need to ask staff to assist me. I have a list here of potential projects where there's conflicts, but I only have, like, you know, short titles. So if you're

[04:47:12] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: hearing a project, I'm looking at Ed, where there's a conflict, I need you to let me know if I miss it, because people are gonna have to start leaving the room, if you start moving things around and pulling items.

[04:47:27] City Manager Kimbra McCarthy: Mayor, I'd like to make a suggestion. Yeah. So perhaps, um, council members can indicate which projects they would like to talk about first. And then that way the city attorney can determine if anyone is conflicted out and needs to leave, then we can talk about those individual projects. And then otherwise, um, staff will then need to respond if there are certain projects that thank you. Will or won't make a difference.

[04:47:54] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Thank you. Okay. So, um, Council member Hicks, I heard Terabella, given staff responses that still of interest for you to discuss. Yes.

[04:48:05] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Okay. Then El Camino Real

[04:48:07] Councilmember Alison Hicks: landscaping. Yes. And then rank store, uh, do you have the complete title?

[04:48:16] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Yeah, what's the complete? I was trying to look it up on the, um, project attachment list. Is that, is there a number or something to help assist me?

[04:48:41] City Manager Kimbra McCarthy: Merit. I think it's on the unscheduled list. I see US 13 Ringsdorf Avenue Green Complete Street Improvements Construction. Is that the one?

[04:48:53] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Okay, ring store for US, complete streets. Okay. And then your final one, customer hicks, or did you have more?

[04:49:00] Councilmember Alison Hicks: Was, um, the El Camino Real median and landscaping deferral until after...

[04:49:07] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: So I had I had that. Oh, you have that one.

[04:49:09] Councilmember Alison Hicks: So I have Terabella. I have El Camino Real landscaping, and I have oranges, store of U.S. complete streets, and then the California complete green streets, which...

[04:49:19] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Okay. Okay. Okay. All right. Before I guess we continue, do others have projects that they would like to discuss. that I need to write down. Uh-huh, Council member Show Walter.

[04:49:38] Councilmember Pat Showalter: I just want, no, we have not mentioned at all the, um, the undergrounding of the, um, the wires on Terabella. Is there any interest in discussing that? I just wondered if any other council members are interested in discussing that.

[04:49:54] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Okay. Well, I can now talk about it, so I can help facilitate the discussion now that I have a new employer. Okay, so if people want to talk about undergrounding Terabella, can you raise your hand, please?

[04:50:10] Councilmember Pat Showalter: The staff recommendation is to close it, right? So this would be to do something other than close it?

[04:50:16] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Correct. Okay. I'm not, I'm seeing just one. I'm sorry. Okay. Perhaps we can talk I can do this. If people want to discuss it. Go through each of the items, or should I do initial straw pools if you want to talk about it first? Is that possible?

[04:50:33] City Attorney Jennifer Logue: So so far, I'm not hearing any conflicts.

[04:50:36] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Okay, perfect. All right. So, I see now one person in the queue, was that about this? Would you like to talk about something else or? Okay. Shall I take the projects that need to be discussed individually or shall I take comments first, looking to staff?

[04:50:59] City Manager Kimbra McCarthy: So I think you can take the 4 projects, and then you can move on to general comments. Thank you. All right.

[04:51:05] City Manager Kimbra McCarthy: Mayor, may I do it real quick? I just want to give some feedback as the discussions begin with council members on the 4 projects. Yes.

[04:51:12] City Manager Kimbra McCarthy: One of them that was mentioned, I just want to clarify, is the Ringstorf Green Complete Streets project. that's on the unscheduled list. We just wanted a flag that there's an active project for the rank store of complete street projects, study that is just now initiating. So the intent was to have that study be initiated, develop the study. We'd go through the public review process, come to council. And then that would help inform the larger project. Director Ing is pointing out that year three, we had identified the Ranksdorf Avenue Green Complete Streets, um, preliminary design, but there is an, um, so thank you for the clarification, but there's a study that we also have, um, prior to the year three. to kind of give you the context of we were looking at a study. And then we'll do, in year 3, is the preliminary design, which would initiate the project.

[04:52:12] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Okay, so why don't we, of the four, why don't we start with that first, then, council member Hicks? So staff has responded to the item. Is there more there that you would like to discuss?

[04:52:24] Councilmember Alison Hicks: So, my intent was to bring some forward and to make space for that by moving some back. So it's kind of hard to talk in isolation. And I don't know whether they would actually, I would want staff to comment on whether that would actually work out, bringing some forward and moving some back. Um, and it was to respond to, you know, the community, kind of wanting more green streets, and more in certain, you know, equity, certain areas, and areas that would be used more. So, for example, the Terabella project, I think, is a less used area. So, from what I've heard. So, yes, that was the purpose in bringing, so now to look at that one, it's hard for me to talk about them in isolation, but to look at that one, my question would be, is that one that we could move forward in any way as members of the community have asked for that? This would be the ring store of complete Green Streets.

[04:53:26] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Well, it sounds like the studies already happening currently.. Maybe staff could talk about the study that's happening now and then how that kind of marries into the year 3 project, because it sounds like something's already happening.

[04:53:50] Councilmember Alison Hicks: Yeah, and maybe there's no need to move it forward, or maybe there is a way.

[04:53:53] Unknown Speaker: Yes. Yes. I was just going to add, we're stepping through this project. Rather than lumping several phases of the project together, like, preliminary design and design together. We're stepping through it a little bit more methodically. So right now, we've got feasibility study that's just kicking off. As noted, we have preliminary design starting in year three. That'll get us through concept. And then after that is complete, then we'll step forward, then, into moving into design and construction. Does that help kind of lay out our path forward for that particular project for Rankstorff?

[04:54:31] Councilmember Alison Hicks: Yeah, I just, I'm understanding the path better. And I'm just wondering whether there, do you feel there's any way of speeding it up by rearranging work or do you not feel that?

[04:54:43] Unknown Speaker: I think it's laid out pretty good right now with a pretty good sequence and cadence with respect to all of the other competing needs that we're prioritizing. So I'm comfortable the way it is, but I'm always, you know, listening to what you guys all have to say as well.

[04:54:58] Councilmember Alison Hicks: Okay, well, that's my question.

[04:55:01] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Okay. Um, so it sounds like, yeah, there's a study currently, and then in year three, they would do the design, and then that would go into, you know, some future into the construction. So it sounds like there's maybe 3 different phases, even though the study wasn't on this listed, or, right? It was already.

[04:55:23] Unknown Speaker: Yeah, it's already underway. It's already because it's already underway.

[04:55:26] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: So hopefully there's some comfort there for colleagues. Um, you also, so then, um, if we could just circle back to the Terabella. So, um, Is there more conversation you wanted to have on Terabella? Council member Hicks?

[04:55:43] Councilmember Alison Hicks: Well, I didn't quite catch what you said earlier in terms of, did you say that the person working on it was no longer available or what, how, what did you mention before about the timing?

[04:55:55] Unknown Speaker: Our transportation manager took a job at another agency, and so, of course, that's a huge loss to that team. So I was simply referencing that staffing resources are a little bit slim for that group right now. The Terabella bike way feasibility study has recently just started. And so if we were to stop that project from moving forward any further, we would lose whatever funds were already expended to the consultant. That is truly just a feasibility study at this point. There is no plans in the five year for an actual design or construction. It's a planning study.

[04:56:34] Councilmember Alison Hicks: Okay, I mean, I'm fine with that. Are you comfortable with that?

[04:56:38] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Okay. All right. And then you had mentioned the El Camino Real landscaping.

[04:56:45] Councilmember Alison Hicks: Yeah, and the staff comments on that one just said that we could defer the design. Maybe this was, Mr. Marchant's comments, defer the design until after the biodiversity plan.

[04:57:01] Unknown Speaker: Correct, and I just wanted to highlight within that response, um, we mentioned that this project was going to be led by the forestry division. And so as you look to move projects around, this project was not going to have a direct impact

[04:57:14] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: on the public works department and their project managers. And so if you're looking to find space for a project manager, this would not be one of those projects. We are willing to defer until we're through the biodiversity plan, and then the CIP you were referencing earlier regarding the tree removals, and also additional plant, and we can focus on that work instead of the El Camino project in his place.

[04:57:43] Councilmember Alison Hicks: So it sounds to me, like, it won't free up your resources, but it might be good to defer it until we have the biodiversity planning, not say, Oh, I wish we'd planned something different. It sounds like staff is amenable to that and can already make that happen. Would that need a formal vote of the council, or it sounds like staff canerdy. Okay.

[04:58:07] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: So, um, it sounds like of the 3 that we've discussed so far, this is the one that would need some council action. So, um, if does anyone have any further comments on this? So I think the proposed, so I think that from what I heard, and Counselor Hicks, please correct me, is there's a reference to, um, El Camino Real landscaping that's being led by, um, community services, um, which is the for our forestry division, but I think there's some interest in the biodiversity strategy 1st and then there was the conversation of the, sorry, I'm trying to find the... Yes. Yes. Yes. So I think... Forrestry maintenance program.

[04:58:58] City Manager Kimbra McCarthy: with the recommendation you have, what you could do is just tack this onto the motion to just recommend that this project be deferred until the biodiversity plan is complete.

[04:59:17] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: I think I think for clarity for staff, it's probably, and the public, it's probably good to include in in the motion, and then the clerk would be able to attach that to the actions, and it's that way correct. Okay. All right. Um, I will write that out. Thank you, city manager McCarthy. Any other discussion on projects? Sorry, from council member Hicks.

[04:59:42] Councilmember Alison Hicks: I think that was everything.

[04:59:44] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Okay, great. All right. And then, so we'll move on to general comments, since we have our emotion and our seconder, council member Ramirez.

[04:59:52] Councilmember Lucas Ramirez: Thank you, Mayor. I have a few general comments and then some thoughts on the projects that were pulled for individual consideration. So at a high level, I appreciate staff's work and especially the effort to right size the capital improvement program to make sure that the projects that are included are deliverable, recognizing financial constraints and staff capacity straints, constraints. And I know it's, it's not easy to go to the council and say, you know, we can't do all of it at the same time. The burden falls on us to make some difficult decisions, and I think the discussion we're having about trade-offs is appropriate, but I do think. Big picture, we're doing the right thing. And, uh, looking and thinking deeply about the list of projects that we have and elevating the ones that are within our, within our ability to actually deliver within, um, a reasonable amount of time. I would say, I am, as I've sat here thinking about it. I am a little uncomfortable with the responses to the questions I started off with more of the art than the science about what to include in the five-year capital improvement program. I would suggest that we err on the site of caution and include in year one or wherever it makes sense, active projects, regardless of whether they are near completion or require a little bit of work. It is confusing, I think, to include some projects, but not others. So, for instance, I didn't realize that we had, or I had forgotten there was an active project related to the Ringstorf Greenstreets study, which sounds like it requires more work than the Caltrain electrification project, but isn't included in the one-year portion of the five-year plan. And so I think I would suggest, or, you know, maybe staff could come back to us with some ideas, but just put everything that you're working on in year one. So at least it's clear to the council and to the community, what you're working on and that every project includes some staff capacity impact and also some funding necessary to help continue that work. As it is, it's not clear why some projects are in here, and some projects are not, even

[05:02:25] Councilmember Lucas Ramirez: though some of the projects that are not included, are significant, and I think, important to the community. So something to consider for future iterations. On the, I support the staff recommendations, I would encourage, I'm a little confused about where we landed on some of these projects. I would encourage Council member McAllister and Council member Showalter in the motion to be explicit about deferring or placing on the unscheduled project list, the El Camino Real landscaping project, and also the Terabella bikeway feasibility study. The staff responses to that council question, um, for the Terabella bike wave feasibility study, make clear that if we defer it, we can return around, or between $50,000 and $100,000 into other traffic safety projects, uh, and also increased staff capacity to deliver some of the other projects that are in the capital improvement program that are high, higher priority. I don't believe Terabella is a high enough priority to merit staff time and attention. And even though $50,000 to $100,000, just not a significant amount of money in the broader context of the capital improvement program. It's non-trivial. And I think the council is saying, what I'm hearing is we're comfortable making trade-offs to elevate and advanced projects that happen in the backlog for a long time or are community priorities. And so we need to do what we can to deliver them. So I will not support the motion, unless both of those projects are deferred, and I really appreciate staff's elevation to the council and community that you are actively working on Ringstorf. That was actually the project that was most interested in elevating, but I've learned you're already doing that work. So there's no further attention that I need debate to that. I also appreciate... I've long been a strong supporter of the California complete streets project. And as much as I would like to include the permanent implementation in the capital improvement program, recognizing that we don't have funding available to deliver it. I agree with staff that it really doesn't make a lot of sense to put it in until we have some assurance that there's a strategy to fund it. The same thing with some of the other major capital projects that we're all interested in elevating, some of which have been described earlier. But I think it is prudent to say, we're going to put this on this list recognizing that not that it's not a priority, it's just that there isn't a path to victory for funding. And so that project makes sense right now in that category. Uh, so, uh, those are my thoughts. I think this is great work overall. I strongly encourage explicitly deferring as part of the motion, both the Terabella, bike wave, feasibility study, and the El Camino Real, medium landscaping project, because of the staff capacity that would be created from those deferrals, and also some amount of money returning back to us to invest in other high priority projects.

[05:05:47] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Thank you. Thank you. Sorry, I just need to clarify with staff. My understanding was that the funds were already expended, council member Ramirez. So is that funding that he's referencing available to be returned?

[05:06:03] Unknown Speaker: Um, on the Terabella project. Yeah, so Terabella Bike Way study has started, not all of the funds have been expended.

[05:06:10] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: So how do we know the amount that, um,

[05:06:13] Unknown Speaker: off the top of my head? I don't know, but I think it's less than 25,000 that we've spent thus far.

[05:06:18] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Okay. So less than 25. So that remainder. Sorry, I didn't see that number in the council question. So the number remaining is 100 to 50 or is it 100 to 50 -25 apologies. I didn't.

[05:06:39] Unknown Speaker: No, the net, the net. What the net? return to fund is somewhere in the neighborhood of 52. was the other number?

[05:06:46] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: 50 to 100. Sorry. Okay, okay. So that is the net. Okay. Thank you. Councilman McAllister.

[05:06:56] Councilmember John McAlister: Yeah, I had a question. I'm still a little bit confused on the El Camino one. So I, when I 1st started, I thought you were deferring doing the El Camino media until you got the urban study. Is that, am I hearing that correctly? Or what are we what are we deferring?

[05:07:15] Unknown Speaker: That we're deferring doing it until the study is completed, correct?

[05:07:19] Councilmember John McAlister: So what are you asking for? If that's what's in the recommendation? Is that the staff recommendation? Um,

[05:07:26] Unknown Speaker: the current proposed CIP that you

[05:07:29] Unknown Speaker: have in the list with attachment 4 shows the El Camino landscaping project to start up in year two, which is after when the biodiversity plan will be completed?

[05:07:39] Councilmember John McAlister: So that's, okay, so that's, they're already doing that. So I, I'm confused. They're deferring until they get the plan.

[05:07:47] Unknown Speaker: So this, my understanding, and you can clarify it, of course, is that the, it was asked, I didn't ask the question, but some council member asked about further deferring it, and it was said that it was possible. Now, I don't know if that was it was already... I thought it was further deferral. And the answer was, it can be further deferred. Um, and we'll utilize the outcomes of the biodiversity plan, we'll do that anyway. But the question was, then what are the staff, what staff, um, time effort would then be become available. And really, it's just a matter of working on the backlog of tree plantings that we haven't gotten to over the last couple of years due to staff transitions, staff vacancies, will focus on that. Um, and that's why we said we could defer by another year.

[05:08:45] Councilmember John McAlister: Okay, so that was clear. I mean, I'm gonna go with staff report, so if Mr. Ramirez does thing, they are deferring it, and that's what I read. And once they get the El Camino does need beautification. So the sooner that we can get there and the plan will allow it to happen. I think we're already deferring it for a year, so it should take care of itself. on that particular end. But my general comments are, this is this direction, again, go to Councilman Ramirez, that this is one of the best reports I've read. It's exactly what I was hoping that the council would start doing is not realize that we need to cut back on items and to do a high priority. The staff did a tremendous job of looking at each project, evaluating the project, putting in a place where it's proper there, and it maximizes our staff time, maximizes our dollars. And I think it helps morale of the staff that they're actually accomplishing things. I remember we had a staff report early on about how it ranked, or rated how we were doing on projects, and our CIP projects were 50%. And I said, well, that's pretty dismal. And so I said, well, what can we do to get it higher? And city manager said, John, we're doing it. We're going to get that to the hopefully 80 or 70, you know, higher percentage of completion, which is good for the morale, the staff, good for the taxpayers to get things done and seeing things accomplished. And so, to tweak these, this report. I think is they spend a lot of time doing it and the phrase trust staff, just to move something forward is a little bit is concerning. I've always thought that another thing that this project is doing us, I see is that we're actually starting to take care of our infrastructure. And for years, we've let it slide and slide. And a lot of people say, well, you've got it. well. There's a vocal, strong vocal, but they said, we got to take care of active transportation or other things. And yes, we're taking there that they're important, but to get back to our infrastructure and take care of it. One thing that is very important, if somebody mentioned a major, if we have an earthquake, where we're looking at all these things going on, you know, our pipes, our sewer lines, are 50, 60 years old, they're at their end of their life. And these are things where we need to get into those projects that they're not glamorous, but we need those for this city to continue to operate and be functional and be ready in case of an emergency. So that's why I like this thing. They're looking at things that have been deferred because there was the narrative out there was louder than actually has to be done to take care of the city. And our beautification of the city. And I think the the city public works director has done a great job of saying, okay, we're going to incorporate what we can. You know, streets and peoples go, well, why are we spending our money on streets? That's the foundation for all your active transportation pretty much. You got

[05:11:56] Councilmember John McAlister: to be on safe streets. You got to be able to deal with there. You don't want potholes. you don't want people falling down. And you're going to be able to restripe everything and it looks good. And so sometimes you have to take that narrative out and look at the big picture of how it's going to really help the city in the long run. And everything I've seen in this report is going to do, it's pragmatic. That's a phrase we don't use too often in government. They're pragmatic about their approach to getting things done at a good rate, an accomplishment, and feel good about it, and we can go back to city. So, um, The thing on El Camino, I think it's doing it. I mean, I see I look at El Camino every day and I see it's I'm glad I'm surprised I haven't been told to recuse myself on El Camino yet. And so, um, I like what I see. So, uh, that's where my thoughts are going. I think tweaking it here and there, is it really gonna make a difference, because somewhere in that line, when you tweak it, I've been, there's the answer is further down the road, and they're doing it correctly, so those are my thoughts for now.

[05:13:01] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Thank you, council member Clark.

[05:13:03] Councilmember Chris Clark: Thanks. So, um, I support those staff recommendations. So I don't know what the motion is at this point, but I don't, I don't want to mess. I don't want to deprioritize Terabel. We heard everyone talk about extra transportation tonight and then deprioritize deprioritize an active transportation project that we've already spent money on. I understand, I understand the intent behind it, but I don't think it really moves the needle. So I think we should proceed with that. We heard tonight that further deferring the El Camino median work is it's already coming after the biodiversity strategy is done, so it doesn't make sense to me to further push it out. It isn't really going to, at the end of the day, these are all, the projects we've identified are rounding errors in terms of, um, probably staff time and dollars. So I would prefer just to move forward, the staff recommendation. I think staff put a lot of time and effort in to revising this based on our prior input, and I think we're kind of messing with things that we don't necessarily fully understand the implications of. So I'd prefer to just move forward with the staff recommendation.

[05:14:12] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Thank you. Councilman Michelle Walter.

[05:14:16] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Yeah, we've had a great discussion tonight. I too really like the concept of right sizing, the work plan. You know, it was like in one of your 1st phrases in this, right sizing the work plan is the key to successful project delivery. You know, that's a great concept. And I think that we want to make sure that we're doing everything. to make a balanced transportation system. And, um, you know, we've gone through the, we've talked about that a lot, and, and I'm quite sure that the staff has gotten the message that, um, we know that this includes cars, public transit, pedestrian cyclists, and other modes, scooters, et cetera. And also includes making our infrastructure green. And we're trying to pull that together, as much as funding sources and time allow us to do that. And I think that's really important that we, you know, that we marry these programs, because we just hear people talk about the desire for tree lined streets, and from a, you know, a climate resilience point of view, making our community cooler and more pleasant. There's hardly anything you could do that's more important. And I also want to thank you for identifying all those funds that weren't already used and finished products and bringing them to our attention. I don't remember that happening before it probably did, but it's a great idea. And, um, it gives us the feeling that, uh, we aren't wasting money, you know? If we haven't used it, we're gonna put it to a new use. That's what we should be doing. So I think the staff recommendation is really quite good. The only thing I would hope is that, along with this concept that we can do the active transportation as quickly as possible. There's been a lot of comment about this Ringsdorf Green streets. And one of the reasons it's so important

[05:16:16] Councilmember Pat Showalter: is because it's a bike to school route for Los Altos high school student. So there's a lot of kids who live on the other, that side of town, who go to Los Altos High School, and use that to get to school. There are some other ways, but that's the primary way they get across Evelyn. And, um, so it's important, and that means that it has the safety considerations, as well as an environmental justice. So if there's a way we can move that along faster, great. You know, I'm sure you'll bring this back to us, and that would be wonderful. So, um, I want to thank you for all this work and, um, look forward to voting for it. Vice Mayor Ramos.

[05:17:01] Councilmember Emily Ramos: Thank you, Mayor. I, uh, overall, on, in general, support the new approach. I think when I had my briefing with staff on this, I support the new approach with the one caveat. This 2 years, these 2 years are going to be our reset and to get it right side up. But I'm very sensitive to the fact that for 3 members of this council, this 2 years are their last 2 years. And so I'm very sensitive that if they want something in, I'm happy to accommodate that, um, hint to, uh, my colleagues on that. So the things that were mentioned. Um, the error on the side of caution, adding all the private projects onto the CIP, just for transparency and all, so just allowing for us to have a really full sense of what's going on, because we are thinking, I'm not the kind of person that would move around a lot of projects, but, um, We, the council isn't like multiplications of me. They're all very different kinds of thinkers on our council, and they, they, they govern in different ways, and I'm happy to support that. Um, The, uh, I believe council member Ramirez was talking about asking to be explicit about deferring the Terabella bike way and the El Camino medians. I'm happy to support that. I don't know where that leaves us quite honestly. Um, but, and then I know that it's clear that people, um, as as council member Hicks has mentioned, um, elevating the ring store for complete streets and the California green streets. I'm also not entirely sure where that leaves us, but, um, if that means, uh, if that's not added in, I'm happy to vote no. So whatever leverage, y'all can use with that, please use. I'm happy to support my colleagues on that.

[05:19:10] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: All right. Well, I think that my understanding is that the what's on the floor is the staff recommendation, and that's what, um, Councilman Rick Hallister has made the motion for, and, um, Councilman Scholtter has seconded. Um, I want to add a couple quick comments, but I see Castle Ramirez's hand in the queue, so I don't know if given this discussion, if you wanted to add. Are you still looking for your addition or did you? Well, I'm hoping that you are fine, not adding this, and you landed it. Okay, you still want them. Okay.

[05:19:49] Councilmember Lucas Ramirez: Thank you, mayor. I appreciate it. I want to make sure you have an opportunity to share your comments too. So, uh, in response to some of um, my colleagues, uh, comments, most of this work, I believe, was conceived when we had a transportation planning manager, correct me if I'm wrong. So we've lost someone with considerable institutional memory in a team that is already pretty small. So this workload probably was right sized when that person worked for the city. That person is gone, and that was a pretty high ranking person within our transportation planning team. Capacity has diminished, and it will be lower for quite some time. Even when we replace that person, it will take time for that person to get up to speed and understand the projects that they will be responsible for. I, it's rare where I am more conservative than you are, council member of McAllister. But I think we need to recognize that staff capacity is limited, and I think this is kind of consistent with staff's frequent efforts to appease the council by saying, yes, we can do it. But I think we need to sometimes back up and say, you know, there is turnover to account for, other things come up, there are always new priorities, and we

[05:21:14] Councilmember Lucas Ramirez: actually want to deliver this capital improvement program. I think, so I'm going to move, that we approve the staff recommendations, a substitute motion, deferring, the Terabella Avenue bikeway feasibility study, recognizing that we don't have the capacity to do all of the transportation planning work in the queue, and also the El Camino Real Median landscaping project. And it's important to defer that, because as the staff response to the council question indicates, the biodiversity and urban forest plan won't even be, it won't be approved by council until the spring of 2026, which is the same time that work will begin. Again, I am grateful to all of the staff for your Herculean efforts to appease us, but temporally, that doesn't seem to work, and also, the staff, in that response, also say, if in deferring that project, you will be able to identify, where was it? You could focus staff time on annual forestry maintenance program and tree replanting, which I believe Director Marchant referenced as a backlog project that we need to get to. So these are nice things, but they're not high priorities, we don't have the capacity to do them, and I think we need to acknowledge that. So that is my substitute motion.

[05:22:35] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: All right. Is there a second to the substitute motion? I don't think anyone else is, so yes, okay, so council member Hicks is gonna 2nd the substitute motion. So before I call the question on the substitute motion and get to council member, Clark's comments, I just would like to have a moment here to interject myself into the conversation. Um, and I just wanted to first, uh, thank Directoring and her team for, um, all of their their efforts related to CIP. I can't imagine going into a new role and then have to present the CIP to a council. But I just really want to express my gratitude and appreciation. And, um, I agree with colleagues that I, um, I find your new approach fresh and much needed. And, um, I am not gonna be supporting the substitute, and I'll be supporting the original staff recommendation, because what I realized in my council briefing, um, that I had. Um, with staff was, when I would ask a question, staff would have the answer of, you know, they're already doing it. So, um, similar to what Council member Clark was talking about when I was asking question, um, related to the, um, the biodiversity and urban forest street plan, they said that it was already going to be deferred. So there was no need to kind of highlight that further, staff had already been proactive in understanding and having a pulse on the council, and I think hearing from Director Marchant, there sounds like they would be able to do that, and work on the tree planting, sooner as well. And so I think things will naturally kind of fit in. I also have hesitancy on stopping things that the city's already paid money for. I think the item just before this was talking about just how scarce resources are. And so if you've already expended, um, any funds. I really don't feel comfortable going back on that. And it sounds like there would maybe, with the different changes that are going on in the department, that there would naturally be a pause. So, um, the consultant would be able to start the work and then, um, they would be able to to naturally take a, take a pause. And so I'd rather if the, if it looked like the meetings were already started in terms of the community outreach meetings. I think it said this week. Um, I'd really like to see that through. So, um, I will call the question after the uh, comments from council member Clark.

[05:25:42] Councilmember Chris Clark: Yeah, I just wanted to say, I won't be supporting the substitute. I understand the where you're coming from, but one, um, the turbo study has already been started too. There's housing developments going in there. There's the potential for a park. There are potentials for, and we've heard about how important active transportation is. So I don't think that really moves the needle. So I don't, in terms of deprioritizing it. I think is the wrong decision. And, um, to the idea that the medians of El Camino somehow, like, greatly impact the biodiversity of Mountain View, just doesn't, um, the strategy is going to be worked

[05:26:19] Councilmember Chris Clark: on over the next year and will know sort of the results of that 6 to 9 months from now. So I'm sure they can incorporate what they're learning through the study, even though we haven't fully approve the study by then. And then third, staff knows what their capacity is, including with people leaving and joining. And if they thought that there were issues, I think they would have flagged them to us in our briefings or tonight. And so for me to sit here and say, I know better than you do that you shouldn't be taking on certain things, um, I just think is, um, a little too parental, um, for the way that I would, um, um, would prefer to govern. So, um, I'm comfortable with where staff is learning on the staff recommendation, so I'm going to support the staff recommendation and not support the substitute.

[05:27:06] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. I think the, well, I guess we'll wait till we see how things go. and then I'll add my comment. So, um, we will ask the assistant city clerk to change the mover and the seconder. And so the substitute motion is the staff recommendation with. The deferral of the Alchemia Real Median landscaping plan to after the completion of the biodiversity and urban forestry plan, as well as deferring. I don't know, I would say terminating, the Terabella bikeway feasibility study.

[05:27:49] City Clerk Heather Glaser: vote. Okay, it looks like the motion failed.

[05:28:00] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Is there another motion, um, on the floor?

[05:28:06] Councilmember John McAlister: Yeah. Thanks, everyone. I was gonna, I was gonna just say that, if that's all right.

[05:28:10] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: If the original motion makers are okay with the original. Okay, so that was Counselor McAllister, and then Council member Show Walter.

[05:28:18] Councilmember John McAlister: The only thing I wanted to add, but I don't think that it needs, maybe, to be included in the motion, is, um, a couple colleagues, um, said if we could include all of the projects and not leave anything off the list, even if they're almost done, or, um, and I would echo those. I'd like to make sure that we have that. Mostly for the transparency, of the community. They're very diligent in tracking things. I wanna make sure. And then I had heard something else of making sure we add the green, back to California, the green California complete streets. If staff wouldn't mind just adding the word green, I think that that would mean a lot to the community.

[05:28:56] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Is staff comfortable with that? I don't think that needs an addition to the motion.

[05:29:02] City Manager Kimbra McCarthy: Can you repeat that, please?

[05:29:05] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: So the 2 things that I heard from colleagues were adding green back into the California green complete streets project, I believe. And then the other thing I heard colleagues mention was, um, making sure we include projects on the CIP even if they're almost completed, just so we are able to track and and track them. And also for the public to be able to have that. Those were the 2 items that I heard, if colleagues are okay with adding those.

[05:29:34] City Manager Kimbra McCarthy: Thank you for the clarity. Okay, and I think that we can just include those and not.

[05:29:38] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Okay, great. All right, so let's vote. All right, and that passes 61. Thank you very much to staff, and we will move on to item 9, which is our council staff and committee reports. Have anyone have anything for item nine? Council member Scholter.

[05:30:08] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Um, yes. I just wanted to share a couple things. Um, like everyone else. I got to enjoy meeting the Spanish language Civic Leadership Academy. My turn was on April 23rd, and it's just really, you know, heartening that we do that. Um, uh, I know that the, the graduates in the past have done wonderful things, and I have no doubt these new ones will, too. And then, on April 30th, I attended Abosca, new member lunch and orientation, and that was, you know, I really learned a lot. Uh, I'm, uh, they explained about the origin of Bosca, and, um, so if, you know, you want to get together sometime, I can give you the Sham's outline version about that. And then on May 4th, Sunday, May 4th, I took part in a League of Women voters panel on what good things local government are doing about climate change. And the local League of Women voters is for Los Altos Hills, Los Altos, and Mountain View. So the Pennless were

[05:31:19] Councilmember John McAlister: me, Sally Meadows, and George Tyson, and we're the reps on Silicon Valley Clean Energy. That was pretty well received. You know, I was surprised to hear how different kind of the orientations were. We really were, particularly we're talking about adaptation. And for Los Altos Hills, the adaptation focus for climate change is really about wildfires. You know, how do they adjust to wildfires and the risk of that? For us? But sea level rise protection, right? That's the big thing we worry about. along with other things. And then for Los Altos, it was kind of more, you know, a moderation of greening their community, and really emphasizing bike lanes, and that sort of thing. So it's very interesting. Thank you.

[05:32:14] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Great. Thank you, Councilman McAllister.

[05:32:16] Councilmember John McAlister: Yeah, I'm still getting used to all your procedures. So I may be hitting a gray area over here when I bring up something. So, one thing, uh, I was just in Denver, Colorado, and a lot of art, and I just like to, one of my emphasis that I like to see councils start looking at is how we can improve the access of art, public art out there, how it's important to the quality of life, how it's good to vibe, the viability of downtown. And, you know, arts, I was on the art pro, um, pushing art 8 years ago and it's really slow. So maybe I've had a couple of conversations and I'm hearing people say, hey, art's good. So let's see if we can get the art programs and availability out there going a little quicker. And the other one is it's more of a selfish one is that I think we had used to have dinners. Every council member, every meeting, so maybe now in COVID, you stopped it. So I don't know the best way to bring it back through the procedure committee or through having them do it, but having dinner beforehand, I just don't feel it's appropriate to be eating dinner in front of staff when we have closed session, it just seems awkward and a little bit. So just minor little things that I'm throwing out. And I guess I'll finish there and not push my luck on, what I'm saying. That's it.

[05:33:40] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: We, um, we will take that back. Um, so I wanted to report out about attending the Willie, California, um, City, City Leaders Summit in Sacramento on the 24th and 25th. I sit on the board of directors, um, for the league and still I'm on the peninsula division. Um, and then wanted to talk about earlier today, um, at 430. We had our council youth services committee.

[05:34:13] Councilmember Emily Ramos: Vice Mayor Ramos. So sorry. I totally forgot to report out that I also went to the Cal City summit. and enjoyed that, and we had RCS, no, CYSC meeting just right before this council meeting, and we did a new appointments of, well, new recommendations for appointments of our new committee, and we had, what, 46 applicants? It was a lot. Apparently.

[05:34:41] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: It was something like 660, wasn't it? Something like that in the end.

[05:34:45] Councilmember Emily Ramos: It was a lot. They even joked that we had a level of Harvard acceptance rate for our youth services committee, our youth advisory committee. So great job. We have very strong youth. So we have a very strong future.

[05:34:58] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Wonderful Any other council, staff, or committee reports? All right, I am not seeing any other hand, so we will adjourn.

[05:35:06] Councilmember Alison Hicks: Oh, council member Hicks. We did have a council sustainability committee meeting where we talked about our carbon, primarily talked about our annual carbon inventory. This point is doing fairly well.

[05:35:22] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Great. And I think you also celebrated Counselor Michelle Alter's birthday that day, correct? Happy belated birthday. All right. So we will adjourn our meeting at 10 35 p.m. Have a good night, everyone. Oh, is it?

[05:35:38] City Clerk Heather Glaser: The next city council meeting will be held on May 27, 2025. This meeting has adjourned at 10:35.

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