February 8, 2022 Joint Meeting of Mountain View City Council and Shoreline Regional Park Community

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[00:01:41] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Good evening, everyone. Welcome to the joint meeting of the city council and the Shoreline Regional Park community of February 8th, 2022. I'm going to read the usual announcement as required. This meeting will be conducted in accordance with California government code section 54953 E as authorized by resolution of the city council. Please contact city.clerk at mountain view.gov to obtain a copy of the applicable resolution. All members of the city council are participating in this meeting by video conference with no physical meeting location. Members of the public, wishing to observe the meeting live, may do so at mountain view.legistar.com, on YouTube at mountain view.gov slash YouTube, and on Comcast Channel 26. As noted on the meeting agenda, members of the public may provide oral public comments during the public comment period by visiting mountainview.gov slash meeting to enter the Zoom webinar or by phone by dialing 669-9128 and entering webinar ID 843-51267142. Any emails received by 5 PM today or receives directly by the city council. Please join me in the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag. of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. The city clerk will take attendance spiral call.

[00:03:24] City Clerk: Council member Abby Koga? Council member Abby Koca?

[00:03:31] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: Here.

[00:03:33] City Clerk: Council member can I?

[00:03:35] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Your

[00:03:35] City Clerk: Councilman reliever?

[00:03:37] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Sure.

[00:03:37] City Clerk: Council member Matachek.

[00:03:39] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Here,

[00:03:40] City Clerk: Council member Show Walter.

[00:03:41] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Here.

[00:03:42] City Clerk: Vice Mayor Hicks.

[00:03:44] Vice Mayor Alison Hicks: Here.

[00:03:44] City Clerk: Mayor Ramirez?

[00:03:46] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Here.

[00:03:47] City Clerk: Thank you.

[00:03:49] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: You very much. We will now proceed to the consent calendar. These items will be approved by one motion unless a member of the council wishes to remove an item for discussion. The reading of the full text of resolutions and ordinances will be waived unless a council member requests otherwise. As a reminder, the purpose of the consent calendar is for the council to effect, sorry, efficiently and quickly consider a high volume of routine or administrative business items with one motion. Although council members may remove items, it is generally not intended for the council to have a lengthy substantive discussion on consent calendar items. Would any member of the council like to pull an item? Vice Mary X.

[00:04:36] Vice Mayor Alison Hicks: Yeah, I'd like to pull 4.3 the legislative agenda.

[00:04:45] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Okay. We will do that. Uh, anything else, Vice Mayor?

[00:04:50] Vice Mayor Alison Hicks: No.

[00:04:52] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. Council member Mattachack.

[00:04:55] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Thank you. I also wanted to pull 43.

[00:04:59] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Very good. Thank you. Any, so see no additional hands, so we will take item 4.3 separately. Uh, so we'll move to public comment for the balance of the consent calendar. Uh, if you would like to speak on any item on the consent calendar other than 4.3. This is the opportunity to raise your hand. Uh so click the raise hands button and zoom or press star 9 on your phone. Timer will be displayed on the screen. Uh, we only have one speaker, so we'll allocate 3 minutes. Of Bruce England.

[00:05:41] Public Speaker: Thank you mayor. Uh, yeah, I want to comment on item 41 and 43. 41 is your minutes approval. There's been a fair amount of discussion in the community. Do you hear me?

[00:05:55] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: We can hear you, but I think it looks like from my perspective. Things are all...

[00:06:02] Public Speaker: Yeah, things are weird on the screen for some reason, but you can hear me.

[00:06:07] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: We can hear you yes.

[00:06:08] Public Speaker: Okay. Yeah, 41 is the minute's approval. There has been a fair amount of conversation in the community about the SROs program discussion, and there was a lot of deliberation that covered points that didn't wind up in the motion itself. So I just wanted to point that out. And then on the legislative priorities, item 43, I've got to bring up the, uh, the item, in the transportation section, item 2 says support increased state funding of transportation improvements, um, with regional or subregional benefits for all modes of transportation. This appears to emphasize vehicle transportation, and, um, I and others feel that that's the wrong emphasis at this point. Item one talks about active transportation and transit and that's where we feel that the emphasis ought to be. And so the suggestion is to drop item 2 altogether. Thank you.

[00:07:06] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. And Bruce, since you've spoken on item 4.3, when we return to 4.3 for public comment, you will not be able to speak on the edit, just to make sure everyone is clear on that. The next speaker is uh, no worries. The next speaker is Sean Rowley.

[00:07:28] Sean Rowley: Uh, hello there. I was hoping to speak on the, um, 555 West Millfield Road residential project is now the right time to speak on that?

[00:07:39] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Mr. Rowley, this is not the correct time that will be later in the agenda. This is not a jet uh, 10th calendar first.

[00:07:45] Sean Rowley: I do apologize. Sorry about that.

[00:07:47] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: No worries. Uh, next speaker is Daniel Shane. And again, this is for the consent calendar, not for 555 West Middlefield. Daniel Shane, did you wish to speak on the consent calendar?

[00:08:16] Daniel Shane: I, I don't believe so.

[00:08:17] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: So we will, uh, see no additional public comment. We will return to the council for preservation. On the balance of the consent calendar. Vice mayor hits.

[00:08:32] Vice Mayor Alison Hicks: So, council is sent, uh, by sent a list of additional possible items by the nonprofit advocacy organization canopy. Um, and I was going to suggest including those as well. Um, I would also be amenable to taking out the item that, uh, Bruce England spoke to, um, on, uh, that focuses mostly on uh, autos as opposed to active transportation and mass transit.

[00:09:02] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: So, vice mayor, just to be clear, first, we're going to dispense with the balance of the consent calendar.

[00:09:08] Vice Mayor Alison Hicks: Oh, sorry. I'm so sorry.

[00:09:10] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: No worry. I'm from the Robbie Koga.

[00:09:13] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: Thank you, Mayor. I'd like to go ahead and move the balance of the consent calendar, including item 4.2, adopted resolution, of the city council, of the city of Mountain View, authorizing and continuing virtual meetings of the city council committee's boards and commissions pursuant to AB 361, and making required findings to be read entitled only for the reading wave. So this is for the balance of the consent calendar, excluding item 4.3. Thank you.

[00:09:40] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Thank you very much, Council member Matachek. I'll 2nd that.

[00:09:46] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. We have a motion made by Council member Abi Hoka, 2nded by Council member Madichek, but the balance of the consent calendar, so that is excluding 4.3. Um, any additional comments or questions. Uh, scene none. Um, I'll ask the city clerk to um, conduct the boat by roll call.

[00:10:06] City Clerk: Councilman by Abby Koca?

[00:10:08] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: Hi,

[00:10:08] City Clerk: Councilman Vermatachek?

[00:10:10] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Yes.

[00:10:11] City Clerk: Council member Kamei?

[00:10:12] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Yes.

[00:10:13] City Clerk: Council member Lieber.

[00:10:15] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Hi.

[00:10:16] City Clerk: Council member show Walter?

[00:10:17] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Yes.

[00:10:18] City Clerk: Vice Mayor Hicks?

[00:10:19] Vice Mayor Alison Hicks: Yes.

[00:10:20] City Clerk: And Miramirez?

[00:10:22] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Yeah.

[00:10:23] City Clerk: Motion carries unanimously?

[00:10:26] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. So now we will return to item 4.3. Um, I will open it up for public comment again. So again, this is item 4.3 the, uh, um, legislative platform for advocacy in 2022. This is not for 555 West Middlefield. Any member of the public like to speak on this consent calendar item, which has been pulled. Uh, Daniel. Shane.

[00:11:09] Daniel Shane: I'm sorry, does this have to do with the 555 Westfield?

[00:11:14] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: No, not this side of it.

[00:11:16] Daniel Shane: I'm sorry. I'm misunderstood.

[00:11:19] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: No worries. Uh, so again, this is not 4555. Is for the legislative platform for 2022. Uh, Umberto Nava.

[00:11:36] Umberto Nava: I'm sorry, that was for different items.

[00:11:40] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Okay, no worries. Paying Lee. For 3 minutes.

[00:12:00] Paying Lee: Okay. Sorry, I was trying to figure out the mute option. Hi, city council. wait, can you hear me? Okay, fantastic. Yes, it's paying she her. Um, so glad that this got pulled off. Um, I think it's super exciting for the city developed its legislative platform this year. I really, really won't emphasize. I think this is a great opportunity to elevate urban greening issues and strengthen the city's strategic priorities, especially around sustainability, livability, quality of life, and pushing forth nature-based solutions. Um, I think this could look like supporting and monitoring legislation and funding, um, including and integrating language around urban forestry, biodiversity. Um, and I would really love to see us be able to take advantage of these state regional, um, nationwide opportunities around job growth, workforce training, um, specifically in relation to, um, everything under the umbrella of urban greening. And I would like to really push forth, um, forestry goals, um, job growth and workforce training around arbor culture. Um, and yeah, I really hope this is considered. Thank you.

[00:13:19] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. Seeing no other hands for public comment, we will return to the council for deliberation. Um, a motion is an order. member meta check.

[00:13:37] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Sorry, um, I also pulled it because I had, um, a one word tweak I wanted to make. Um, and I appreciate, um, having the letters and numbers now for easy reference. So on um, G2, which is about water quality and water supply. Um, I wanted us to stay focused on the Bay Area as opposed to all of California. Um, so I would change number 2 to just say at the end, sustainable water supply for the Bay Area.

[00:14:13] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. Anything else, count the number?

[00:14:16] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Um, you know, I didn't have a chance to really study all of the suggestions at the vice mayor. Um, referenced, uh, since that came in kind of late and we had lots of stuff happening here at the last minute. Um, so maybe you could go over the changes you're interested in.

[00:14:35] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: That sounds reasonable, by smear hits.

[00:14:38] Vice Mayor Alison Hicks: Yes, yeah. Um, so they, I did not collaborate with paying ahead of time, but these suggestions are, oh gosh, let's see if I can get them up. Um, sorry, I'm struggling with one screen. Uh, they, they're right in line with what uh, she brought up. So, the recommendations from canopy are, um, for C, housing and community development, canopy recommends supporting legislation and funding to enable the city to implement community forestry and urban greening programs, develop nature filled neighborhoods, and support the city's goal of livability and quality of life, for e, economic development, canopy recommends support for legislation and funding to enable work training and job growth in arbaculture and urban forestry, and help meet the city's goal of economic vitality. Canopy also recommends adding to number two, schools and tree lined streets around retail areas, to support vitality, and increased traffic, and length of stay, as well as other needs, F, for environmental climate change, and sustainability. Canopy recommends amending number 5 to read funding related to expanding the tree canopy, for carbon sequestration, cleaner air, heat island, reduction, and many other environmental benefits as a nature based climate solution. G, water quality and water supply. Canopy recommends support for legislation and funding to enable the city to implement urban greening and green infrastructure projects that improve water quality, protect creeks and waterways, reduce storm water runoffs, and decrease the flow of polluted water into the bay. H natural hazard canopy recommends support for legislation and funding to enable the city to implement urban greening programs to mitigate the effects of extreme heat and wildfire smoke, and safeguard residents health. I, recreation, and parks, canopy recommends adding urban forest to number one, and K, transportation, and public works, canopy welcomes the addition of number 17, which I won't read. Um, So, I'm sorry that those are so long, but, um, I was hoping that we could just add them in a, in addition to, uh, council member Mattachek's, uh,

[00:17:21] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: So, I smear, you are frozen. Um, I think what I'll do is all come back to you. Um, City manager, um, McCarthy, did you want to speak to, so the, I, I heard the canopy recommendation verbatim? I don't think there were any additional recommendations proposed outside of that, beyond the recommendation from, from council member, Madijax, just so everyone is on the same page. Uh city manager, go ahead.

[00:17:49] City Manager Kimbra McCarthy: Thank you, Mayor, and Vice Mayor Hicks. So, as noted, this request just came in a couple hours ago, so staff has not had time to assess it, but having said that, I would ask that counsel let staff look at how these would align with the council priorities, and they do seem, you know, at 1st glance to be aligned. But much like we, you all gave direction last time to kind of go back and look at, look at the suggestions and then we brought it back now. If you are okay with giving staff the ability to assess their suggestions and then go ahead and incorporate those that do align with our sustainability, priority, and our other goals. I would ask that that at least gives us staff some time to look at it. They also mentioned numerous, uh, legislative items that we have not had time to look at, um, Norris S, and we've spent the last couple months, um, working on this. So I think that would just be helpful to staff, but it does seem like, um, it seems doable, but I just want to make sure that everything aligns.

[00:18:56] Vice Mayor Alison Hicks: Okay, I'm sorry I disappeared. I don't know if I'm still on the floor or not.

[00:19:02] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Uh, well, so just, I think what we heard were verbatim, the recommendations submitted by canopy. Was there anything else you wanted to add to that?

[00:19:12] Vice Mayor Alison Hicks: Uh, just that I wanted to add them more or less. They're, you know, maybe lengthier and maybe need some reviews, so I would like any staff recommendations, and it sounds like, uh, the city manager was giving recommendations about how to incorporate them, which I did not hear.

[00:19:31] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Okay, well, we'll review it once everyone has had an opportunity to comment. Council member reliever.

[00:19:39] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Thank you, Mayor. Um, well, I was prepared to, uh, go ahead and, um, make a motion. I know that counts my romantic, um, he has a hand up. Um, I would prefer to keep G2, um, scoped, uh, to water supply, uh, reliability and sustainability for California, um, because as we know, there are environmental issues that, um, impact mountain view that are outside of, um, our geographic boundaries. And, um, that we would need to comment on. Um, we've had a longtime presence in terms of, uh, uh, Bosca and and many other issues, the Delta issues and the bay issues. And, um, those do end up accruing to Mountain View in the end, but they are, are much wider than, than Mountain View. And we have taken a very, um, ambitious, environmental and sustainable stance in terms of mountain view. And I think that we should stay open to, um, a wider stope of issues on water. Um, reliability and sustainability. So I'd like to urge that we keep that particular item, uh, wider and, um, allow staff to make determinations on what fits with our, uh, adopted goals. And then I'd be happy to make a motion when the time is right.

[00:21:26] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Okay, thank you. Council member made a check.

[00:21:30] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Thanks. Um, so I was gonna comment on the, um, item from canopy and his Vice Mayor Hicks was reading it. I heard the word traffic. Um, and I thought, wait, wait, we don't want to increase traffic. Um, and so I'd ask staff to just wordsmith that because I don't think that's really what canopy meant to me, increased traffic means vehicles. I think they need pedestrian traffic. Um, so we might need to tweak that one a little bit. But, um, I can provide more details on why I was suggesting on water quality to limit that to the Bay Area. Um, and I was trying to find an easy way to tweak this one as opposed to rewriting it. Um, you know, if it was changed to monitor rather than support. I could live with it as is. Um, my concern is, um, the, uh, delta tunnels that have been proposed and the impact on the environment, the delta. And, um, that mostly benefits Southern California. And so that was my concern about saying we support reliable, sustainable water supply for California. So I thought, well, an easy fix was to change it to the Bay Area. Another easy fix is to change it to monitor. So I'm open to tweaking it. But that was my thinking behind it.

[00:22:56] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. And just, I guess, a quick question for staff as a practical matter. Um, because, uh, I know we, we discussed this, uh, during the study session or the, I think it was the study session on the side of, um, in practice, any proposal to, uh, take a formal position on, uh, any legislative idea, or state regulatory measure, would 1st be evaluated by staff and, um, and the mayor, and we, in other words, the, uh, the legislative platform provides some guardrails and and guidelines, but we're not likely to take a, a position on a bill, for instance, that, uh, has, uh, you know, that, that is clearly not beneficial for the city of Mountain View, can staff sort of comment on, on that process one more time.

[00:23:52] City Manager Kimbra McCarthy: Um, yes, mayor, that is that is accurate. So we take the 1st pass at it. Uh, we have our legislative, um, intergovernmental affairs, um, staff, Christina Gilmore. I also review it, and then I also discuss with the mayor, um, and often with the vice mayor as well. So there are definitely guardrails.

[00:24:14] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. Um, Council member Liever.

[00:24:19] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Thank you, Mayor. Well, uh, perhaps we could, uh, I could suggest another amendment here too, that we, uh, support the enhancement of a reliable and sustainer sustainable water supply for California, that, uh, maintains or increases big quality. I think we're at a point where we might want a formal motion. Okay, great. I'll go to that then and move that we adopt a resolution of the city council of the city of Mountain View authorizing. Um, Excuse me. Sorry, I was on the wrong one. Uh, I moved that we adopt the legislative program to guide the city's regional, state and federal legislative advocacy efforts for 2022. And second, that we adopt a resolution of the city council of the city of Mountain View, amending city council policy A 16, representing the city, on regional boards, and other bodies, to be read entitle only further reading, waived, and that we incorporate the, um, uh, suggestions coming forward from canopy, and ask that the staff find a way to fit those in, and that they come to our next review of the platform.

[00:25:42] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Can you read into the record one more time, your recommendation regarding the water quality item?

[00:25:50] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Um, I'm I'm suggesting that we make G2 support the enhancement of a reliable and sustainable water supply for California, that protects and enhances bay quality. Enhances big quality.

[00:26:12] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: And then for the canopy recommendations, uh, city manager, procedurally, are you comfortable with that?

[00:26:23] City Manager Kimbra McCarthy: Yes, Mayor, I'm comfortable with that. I would note that we weren't planning on coming back again on the 22nd for approval of this. So if counsel is comfortable with staff incorporating, um, canopy suggestions were appropriate and and obviously looking at that, that other, uh, typo, I think about the traffic, um, if you're comfortable with that, we would just incorporate those into the platform.

[00:26:48] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Okay, so it would be subject to staff discretion.

[00:26:52] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Okay, we have a motion from council member Lieber. Uh, Vice Mayor Hicks.

[00:26:58] Vice Mayor Alison Hicks: Yes, I would 2nd that.

[00:27:02] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. Council member Metachek.

[00:27:05] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Yeah, um, I'm okay tweaking this one, but, um, can we make it a little bit broader and just say, um, that, Protection enhances the environment, rather than just the delta water because we don't really know what's coming around.

[00:27:21] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Yeah, so I would be more than happy to accept that amendment.

[00:27:24] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Great. Thank you. Okay. Then, uh, motion by council member Lieber, 2nded by Vice Mayor Hicks, uh, that incorporates the canopy recommendation subject to staff review, uh, and discretion to incorporate if it's consistent with, um, balance of the platform and what we're trying to achieve. as a city, and then the amendment to, I think it was G 2 water quality. Um, so retain California, but include the additional language that protects it enhances the environment. Any additional comments or questions? If not, then I'll ask the city clerk to begin the boat. Council member Lieber?

[00:28:18] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Hi.

[00:28:19] City Clerk: Vice Mayor Hicks?

[00:28:21] Vice Mayor Alison Hicks: Yes.

[00:28:22] City Clerk: Counts number Abby Coco? Council member Kmei?

[00:28:26] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Yes.

[00:28:27] City Clerk: Council member Mattachek?

[00:28:28] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Yes.

[00:28:29] City Clerk: Council member show Walter?

[00:28:31] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Yes.

[00:28:31] City Clerk: Mayor Ramirez?

[00:28:34] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Yeah. The amended motion carries unanimously. Thank you very much. We will now move to item 5, oral communication. This portion of the meeting is reserved for for persons wishing to address council, the council on any matter, not on the agenda. speakers are allowed to speak on any topic for up to 3 minutes during this section. State law prohibits the council from acting on nonagenda items. Would any member of the public on the line like to provide comment on this item? If so, please click the raise, raise hand button in Zoom or press star 9 on your phone. Timer will be displayed on the screen. I am not seeing members of the public raise their hand, so we will close non-agenda public comment. Oh, uh, Yes, sorry. I saw a hand and it was withdrawn, so we will close public comment and move on to item 6.one residential development project at 555 West Middlefield Road. Would any council members like to make disclosures? I'll start. I will disclose that I met with the applicant and visited the project site with residents in the area.

[00:29:51] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Council membership Walter.

[00:29:53] Councilmember Pat Showalter: I too met with the African and I um, I talked to several residents um, over Zoom.

[00:30:01] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you, Council member Abi Koga.

[00:30:03] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: Thank you, Mayor. I, too, met with the applicant as well as residents in the neighborhood and visited the site. Thank you.

[00:30:14] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. Bye.

[00:30:16] Vice Mayor Alison Hicks: Yes, I also met with the applicant and this is the site multiple times and met with residents. Thank you.

[00:30:26] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Council member can may.

[00:30:27] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Hey, thanks. Um, I met with the applicant as well as the residence. Thanks.

[00:30:33] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you Council member Meta Jack.

[00:30:37] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: I met with the applicant, and I've met with residents at 555 West Meadowfield, as well as residents in the surrounding area, and I've been to the property on my own and with residents. Thank you.

[00:30:52] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. Thank you. Council member Liever.

[00:30:56] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Thank you. I, um, met with the Upkin by Zoom and, uh, received several phone calls, um, from them. I also met with residents by Zoom. And uh, visited the site uh, several times. Thank you very much.

[00:31:15] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Project planner, Diana Penscholi, will present the item, and then we will have a presentation from Joe Kirchofer, VP of development for Avalon Bay. Uh, and we also have uh, many members of staff and from the applicant team available to answer questions. So, um, I'll turn it over to Diana to begin the presentation.

[00:31:36] Diana Pancholi: Thank you. Thank you and good evening, Mayor, and members of the council. My name is Diana Pancholi, senior planner with the city's planning division. The item in front of you tonight is a multifamily residential infield development proposal at 555 best middle field. The 14.5 acre project site is located onto the south of Middlefield Road, and it comprises nearly the entire block between West Middlefield Road, Moffitt Boulevard, Cypress Point Drive, and Freeway 85. The site is currently developed with 402 apartment units, um, carports and other residential amenities, and has a journal plan, and use designation of medium density, residential, and zoning designation of P plant community. The surrounding land uses include Moffat Plaza Shopping Center, Moffat, mobile home park to the West, and several residential developments to the north and to the south. The project is also close to the Mountain View Transit Center and downtown. A little bit background of the project. The project review began back in 2015 when city council authorized the staff resources for a gatekeeper request for general plan and zoning amendment. Uh, following the gatekeeper authorization, applicants submitted informal uh, project plans, which were reviewed at early site study sessions with APC and city council in 2017. Based on city council and EPC, um, direction and community input and further work with staff and DRC, the applicant has revised the project substantially. Revised project plans were presented to EPC and Council in late 2021. City Council provided overall support for the project, which support for reduced project density of 250 dwelling units per acre, wider sidewalks along Moffat Boulevard, and preservation of existing trees. The development proposal, as it stands in front of you tonight, includes a journal plan amendment to allow edition of 323 new units in 3 new buildings, underground parking garages, new amenities building in block A, and associated amenities. The proposed unit mix consists of studios, one bedroom, 2 bedroom and 3 bedroom units. The project has 3 street frontages along Middlefield Road, Moffat Boulevard, and Cypress Point Drive, and the main vehicular entrance to the underground parking garage is through Middlefield Road and Cypress Point Drive. As I stated earlier, the updated project proposal presented to the city council in early 2021 includes significant revisions, and the key project features include edition of 323 new units, one.34 acre parkland dedication plus some park feet, 48 affordable units as part of the project. The project does preserve 402 existing units on site with no displacement proposed. All the parking will be provided underground with very limited surface parking. The project also includes a pedestrian and bicycle connection connecting middle field road to the proposed park. Project applicant has voluntarily um, proposed to contribute, a community benefit of one. 197 million. The landscape plans do include 75% native planting using the North Bay Shore plant palette, and applicant has also proposed voluntary retroduction during construction. The project design has gone through several iterations and significant changes. 2017 project design was very industrial looking buildings. Staff has worked with the applicant and the DRC to, um, you know, bring out changes to the project design, to make it look more residential with specific strategies to fit in the area and reduce the overall appearance of the building, uh, and fit into the surrounding neighborhood. The project is also proposing model parking, ratios, and 100% unbundled parking, project includes a robust TDM plan in order to meet 10% reproduction, and all the parking, as I stated earlier, will be provided in below grade parking garages, with some surface parking. Landscape plan for this particular project has been of key importance, and applicant has worked diligently with staff to revise their landscape plan in order to incorporate community input and staff input and council direction. As proposed, the project is proposing approximately 3.25 acre of common usable open area and a one. 34 acre park opening on Cypress Point Drive. Based on the previous input, the revisions to the plan includes, you know, the heritage street removals that were proposed have been reduced, um, from 117 to now only 57 trees, per heritage trees proposed to be removed. A total of 190 new trees are proposed to be planted using 75% native planting. Some existing trees will be transplanted as well. And the project applicant will meet the tree replacement at 22 is to one replacement ratio, and is also proposing to plant, um, bigger size 3s, um, compared to 24 inch box. They'll be proposing 36 inch box at certain locations where it's permissible. And, um, you know, the applicant has revised the plans in order to meet cities, cities, goals for biodiversity. It should be noted that, uh, you know, after the EPC meeting staff has received a lot of public input on a specific alternative to explore revisions to the project design to save 3 existing redwood trees near block A building as shown on this slide here. The specific trees are located above the proposed underground parking garage, and revising the garage design to preserve these tree trees would require a significant redesign and the loss of large number of parking spaces, approximately 8200. This would be a significant project change and is unprecedented since most projects are required to comply with the city's model parking standards. The reduction in parking may also result in further changes that would require additional environmental assessment and updating a few technical studies, such as the MTA report. This change could also result in on street parking spillover onto Cypress Point Drive. This issue has been a persistent community concern from the Cypress Point drive residence and the parking proposed by the project has sought to address this issue. Therefore, staff is not recommending this change at this time. Again, the project applicant has made considerable efforts to save healthy heritage trees, healthy trees on site and achieve the canopy goals and the biodiversity goals of the city. Moving on, in order to comply with the California environmental quality act, a draft environmental impact report was prepared for the project. The draft environmental impact report includes project mitigation measures that will reduce most of the project potential environmental impacts to less than significant with an exception of a significant air quality impact due to higher concentrations of PM 2.5 in project cumulative conditions to on-site receptors. It should be noted, that during the air quality analysis, that the city consultant includes conservative assumptions, such as, you know, the on-site receptors will be outside 247 during the construction time, which is not reasonable, but that's the basic practice that we use for air quality modeling. It should also be noted that a similar impact has not been identified in the in the past projects in the city. Because very recently in late 2019, that may change their requirements for air quality modeling to include fugitive dust in addition to exhaust PM 2.5 when doing the air quality modeling. Fugitive dust can be a result of soil movement during construction. And because these were not studied in the past projects, this has not been identified as an impact. Staff has consulted with our air quality experts and our environmental consultants, which have confirmed that these kind of impacts are not uncommon for similar info development projects in other jurisdictions as well. Following the significant enormal impact identification, the staff is proposing adoption of a statement of overriding consideration by the city council at the time of final EIR certification. and finds that the project benefits outweigh the environmental impact identified. These findings have been included in the findings of fact and statement of overriding consideration attached to the staff report. The mitigation measures have been identified and included as a condition of approval in the project as well, along with the mitigation and monitoring plan. It should be noted that in addition to uh, the mitigation measures identified, the applicant has voluntarily offered uh, some of these uh, accommodations as listed on the slide here in order to address construction related related concerns. These include um, for a location to another Avalon Bay property, free hospitality suits on site, notification to do new residents regarding construction schedule and the impacts and available benefits. And also reimbursement for purchasing air filters. The project has gone through various rounds of review, including city council and an EPC study sessions in 2017 and 2021. The project has also gone through various rounds of review by the development review committee, which recommended approval for the project in October 2021. The applicant has also done extensive community outreach, including 15 meetings, between 2017 and 2021. The project was also reviewed by the airport land use commission, which recommended approval in September 2021. At January 5th, 2022. The EPC considered the project at a public hearing and recommended approval to recommended city council to approved the project as per the resolutions attached. I would like to, at this point of time, staff would like to summarize that this is a info development project, adding much of the needed housing without causing displacement. It is conveniently located near the transit and includes a robust stadium program to reduce the trips coming to the site and from the site. It also includes a public park, which is a requirement, as noted, in the cities, parks, parks plan. So EPC recommends the city council adopt a resolution approving the proposed project with the associated map and certifying the environmental impact report. Staff would like to mention at this point of time, that based on the recent development, staff is recommending that the council acknowledge the voluntary offers proposed by the applicant to address the construction related concerns, and it should be added as a condition of approval, modifying the motion number 3 for the planned community permit. This concludes staff presentation, staff, and our environmental consulting team is present here tonight for any of your questions. And I would like to remind once again, the applicant Avalon Bay is present here tonight as well, and has a brief presentation for the city council. Thank you.

[00:44:03] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you, Diana. So we will now proceed to the applicant presentation. Joe, go ahead when you're ready.

[00:44:11] Joe Kirchoffer: All right. Just get this up here. Um, so can everyone see my screen?

[00:44:20] Unknown Speaker: Not yet.

[00:44:22] Joe Kirchoffer: Not yet. Let's try that again.

[00:44:28] Unknown Speaker: But no. We can see it. I don't know if you want it there.

[00:44:33] Joe Kirchoffer: Here's the presentation. Thank you. Here we go. All right. Um, thank you, mayor, members of the council. I'm Joe Kirchoffer with Avalon Bay Communities. Um, thank you very much for the opportunity to present this evening. And thank you, staff, for all their work on this application over the past 6 years. We are very excited to be here today, asking for your approval of this project. Um, Avalon Bay is a long term property owner in Mountain View, and our philosophy is to build for the long term. We plan to own this property for decades, and our goal, as with all the new development work that we do, is to make a lasting improvement to the communities that we serve. And with this project, we can do just that. This is exactly the type of thoughtful, transit oriented, infill residential development that the city of Mountain View has prioritized in your long range planning efforts. This project will make better use of underutilized areas on a site that is already zoned for residential. The space is now devoted to parking cars. We are going to move those cars underground and use this space to provide homes. Project provides 323 new homes to the city of Mountain View, including 48 new affordable units. This is a large number of homes, and it's not easy to find space for that scale of a project in Mountain View without having to tear something else down. Um, we do that, and, um, not only that, but 48 affordable units is the size of an average size, 100% affordable housing development. So this is a meaningful increase in the city's affordable housing stock, as well. And I'd like to note that it does not require any public subsidy to provide these 48 homes. The affordable units are spread throughout the residential buildings on every floor. They will be delivered at the same time as the rest of the new homes, and many of them are large, family sized homes. 2 bedroom and 3 bedroom affordable units are a specific priority for the city's housing apartment. Also, one of the primary focuses of this project from the beginning has been to make sure that there's no displacement of current rent control of residents. Everyone that lives at this property will be able to stay. And the project won't displace any housing, any businesses, or any retail space. In order to do this, we've had to develop a phasing plan to make sure the property can be operational and livable at each stage of the development. We also need to make sure that the property is safe during each phase of construction. So, we're implementing all available mitigation measures to minimize any disruptions to the resident site, to the residence on site. Avalon Bay serves as its own general contractor, and we will have our own staff managing the site. This lets us implement a robust communication program throughout the construction process to keep residents and neighbors informed and in touch with our staff. And not only are we not displacing anyone on site, but we've worked with the city to ensure that there's a process to fairly compensate existing residents for any disruptions that may happen during construction. We've committed to participate in a new program developed by the rental housing committee. As part of this program, we will tailor rent reductions to each home, based both on the loss of services on the site and the home's proximity to construction activity, and we will also provide a rent reduction so that each home can buy a high quality head air filter. We'll also provide hospitality suites and vacant units far from construction on site. These can be used for free by residents who need a quiet place during daytime work hours. If people still want to move away, we will waive lease cancellation fees for folks whose leases predate the start of construction. And for those who have a documented medical condition that makes them concerned about staying, we will offer to relocate them and their current lease to a comparable apartment at another Avalon Bay property in the area. So, we're adding new housing, we're adding new affordable housing. We're retaining the city's precious right controlled housing stock, and we're protecting the residents that live in it. As I said before, it's exactly the kind of development that the Mountain View community has wanted to prioritize. But the project is all the little things right, too. The projects provide parkland for a new 1.3 acre public park to the city of Mountain View. This is usable new parkland. At this size and scale, that's extremely rare in New Mountain View development projects. We will improve connectivity for pedestrians and bikes, as well, both within our site, with a new pedestrian pathway that connects middle field to Cypress Point, and in the wider area. We've coordinated with VTA in the city on Monte Boulevard, and we're gonna build a new separated bike lane, a new bus boarding island, and a widened sidewalk. This will help facilitate non automobile focused commute patterns along Moffat and help us take the first step in realizing the future of that key thoroughfare. The project's architectural design has been adjusted based on feedback from DRC, EPC, and the council. The architectural style has changed dramatically from the initial proposal, as Diana pointed out. It's now more contextual and appropriate to the existing forested character of the neighborhood. And we've made major massing modifications at the request of the folks on Cypress Point Drive. We've reduced large chunks of the building mass along the southern edge of the property from four to three stories, and see that here, and then here in the same area again. This project has also gone to great lengths to maintain the neighborhood's forested character that I mentioned a moment ago, and it promoted ecologically successful environment on the site for the coming decades. We've designed the buildings to retain the largest and healthiest stanza trees on site, with a priority for native and beneficial species. There are, unfortunately, inevitably some trees that could not be designed around. Of those, we'll transplant 40 mature trees to other locations on site. It's not only preserves those trees. It also gives our newly landscaped areas, some mature canopy on day one. We've also committed that our new plantings will be over 75% native species. Will follow the Audubon Society's recommendation that all landscape lighting will be at warmer color temperatures. And we've taken an especially close look at the area between building C and Highway 85, to prioritize retaining existing native trees where possible, and to plant new, fast growing natives to complete a harmonious design that will be successful over the long term. While we're discussing trees, I do want to note, we saw the letter from canopy come in on Friday afternoon in the council packet, and we are able to commit to implements all of their proposed requirements as well. This project has been in the work for some time. Um, and we've had the opportunity to respond to and incorporate a lot of the feedback that we've heard from the community, uh, from city staff and from DRC, EPC, and council. And this project, this process has made the project better in a variety of ways, many of which I've just mentioned. Um, we also want to note that the, uh, the project's General Plan designation has been reduced in response to feedback from Council last year, that reduction, um, has reduced the project's density by six units, um, and those have been reduced from the building C frontage, um, the area that I just slowed on, uh, showed on the, the previous few slides. And finally, the project will also make a voluntary community benefit contribution of nearly two million dollars, which will help the city fund neighborhood improvements that go beyond our property lines. In closing, this project is a model infill transitorian development. It protects existing rent controlled homes and the residents that live in them. And it adds new housing stock, including 48 affordable homes, in an area that's appropriate for residential development. Now, we, um, I would like to ask the council to approve this project, so we can add these much needed new homes to the Mountain View community, and we thank you very much for your consideration. And without them, I'm happy to answer any questions.

[00:51:30] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. We will now provide an opportunity for members of the council to ask questions, then take public comment, and then return to council for deliberation. Does any member of the council have questions? Bye, snare pick.

[00:51:48] Vice Mayor Alison Hicks: Ah, yes, thank you. Um, I I do have a couple of questions. I know that there were plans for remodeling the existing units, and I'm wondering about the, and I know residents have been concerned that, uh, they would get, uh, remodels that would include improving the windows, uh, to, for example, double pain. And I'm wondering what the schedule for the remodeling of the existing units is going to be, uh, whether some of them will be remodeled, um, you know, I mean, it's a long construction timeline. So, where will those remodels fall along the construction timeline?

[00:52:37] Diana Pancholi: Council member, I think the applicant can respond to that.

[00:52:40] Vice Mayor Alison Hicks: Okay.

[00:52:41] Joe Kirchoffer: Yeah, thanks, RT. Um, yeah, so, um, the, and this was in the Q and A response as well. We, um, there's sort of three strands or, uh, you know, three efforts to, um, kind of continually update the buildings that are on site today. The first is, um, is the one that's included in this, um, in this development packet. We've been asked as part of the process to ensure that the new buildings and the old buildings had some sort of aesthetic consistency. And so we've proposed, as part of this package, upgrades to the exteriors, including pink colors that would coordinate and new exterior materials, as well, that would coordinate with the new materials on the new buildings. So that would happen towards the end of the development process that's proposed. The second process that's going on is ongoing. And we've, um, you know, for the last few years, we purchased this property in 2013. For the last few years, we've been going through one by one to update and renovate apartment interiors. And those are generally being done as folks move out just to avoid the disruption of going in and, you know, replacing a kitchen when someone lives there. But that effort is ongoing, that is gonna continue. That would include full repairs to any windows, doors, building systems, air conditioning. Um, so anything that would be damaged or, or not working properly, um, if we didn't respond to it and fix it as part of a resident, you know, notice and say, You know, my air conditioner's not working properly. If it's not fixed during that process, it would be fixed during the one by one renovations. And then, finally, we, as part of a long term capital plan. Over time, we would also, at some point, are gonna need to replace roofs, replace sighting, and then do a full window replacement with, you know, sort of brand new final windows. That is a much more invasive process. And that is something that, we don't have a specific schedule for it yet, but it's going to require... I mean, it's a permanent process, and also its own, um, sort of site logistics process to make sure we're, you know, moving people around, making sure we have space for parking, for staging, et cetera. Um, so that, uh, we would not propose to have overlap with the construction process.

[00:55:04] Vice Mayor Alison Hicks: So the overall window repairs will happen after the construction is over is the current timeline. Is that what I am?

[00:55:14] Joe Kirchoffer: Repairs? I mean, repairs could happen tomorrow. We have our own on site maintenance staff, and if there's anything that's not working, that's broken. Um, we would love to hear about it, and, you know, those repairs can happen right away. A full window replacement of every window in every building is gonna have, is a bigger undertaking and is something that can't be scheduled right now.

[00:55:34] Vice Mayor Alison Hicks: Okay. Yes, sorry. I think I stated that wrong.

[00:55:37] Joe Kirchoffer: So anybody can call for repairs for leaks or broken air conditioner at any time, but the full renovation is gonna happen after the full, uh, after the, all three phases of construction are complete.

[00:55:50] Vice Mayor Alison Hicks: Okay. Um, I assume that people, when they, if they are getting money for air filters, HEPA filters, they could also, if they prefer, get filtering curtains or blinds, I know some people prefer those because the filtering curtains allow you to open your windows, uh, I don't know how well they work, but I assume you would be flexible on what kind of filtration system the person wanted to purchase.

[00:56:17] Joe Kirchoffer: Yeah, that's and that's, um, that's exactly the reason. It would be, you know, relatively easy for us to go out and buy 402 air filters and just hand them out. Um, but in our, uh, in our experience with, you know, situations like this, it works better for our residents to give them some choice over what methodology and, you know, what equipment they'd like to choose. I'm not familiar with, um, with the curtains, um, but, you know, we'd be happy to, um, you know, happy for folks to choose to spend money on that rather than a filter, um, or or both, or something like that. You know, I think we would be happy to provide, you know, information on here. This is the right kind of filter. This is the right model. Here's the link to where to buy it. Um, but let folks make up their own mind, because, you know, as I said in our experience, folks want to have, um, some choice over the, you know, the different types of things that are available.

[00:57:12] Vice Mayor Alison Hicks: Now, you also say you're gonna allow people with, uh, medical conditions to move to other Avalon properties in the area. Would you also allow people over a certain age to not have to submit, uh, medical paperwork?

[00:57:29] Joe Kirchoffer: Um, you know, I I don't think we're looking for extensive medical paperwork, just something that, you know, that limits this. We do, and... the rationale for this is, you know, this property has 402 homes, in any given year, there are, you know, probably 100 or more people moving away. Um, just that's the natural state of apartments in Mountain View. And so, you know, if there are folks who are legitimately concerned, you know, absolutely, we want to make sure we take care of them. And frankly, we want to retain them as our customers. Um, but, you know, starting to extend that to just everyone who moves out, um, you know, becomes a slippery slope pretty quickly. Um, I hadn't, uh, haven't considered the age question, but, you know, I think that's, uh, it's not unreasonable. So, yeah, I think that's probably something we can incorporate if it's written, you know, written reasonably.

[00:58:22] Vice Mayor Alison Hicks: Okay, and then lastly, um, I noticed in the presentation that you're unbundling the parking, normally when that's done, there's a certain reduction in number of spaces. Is that something that will go along with the young bundling?

[00:58:38] Joe Kirchofer: Um,

[00:58:39] Joe Kirchoffer: I, so, our, um, our parking proposal has stayed consistent, you know, hasn't, hasn't been reduced, and we are at the model parking standard ratio right now, so, I don't know if staff, if you want to, um, comment on that as well, but...

[00:58:56] Diana Pancholi: Yeah, the amount of parking reduction that is being proposed is not gonna change because it's going to be unbundled. Uh, parking.

[00:59:05] Vice Mayor Alison Hicks: Okay, thank you.

[00:59:09] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. Council member show Walter.

[00:59:16] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Hi, I have 2 basic questions. One, um, I'd like to hear more about the information program you plan to, um, have about, um, uh, construction activities that would generate the, uh, contaminated concern, you know, the P, um, the PM 2.5. I think that's really an important issue moving forward, is making sure that people know when they need to be careful, and run their filters.

[00:59:49] Joe Kirchoffer: Sure. So, um, I'll just go ahead and start, you know, uh, city staff. You can kick me if I, if I'm stepping on a line. Um... I, um... So, so, just to back up a half step, you know, we do, the communication program with our residents and with neighbors, frankly, is, um, is a part of every project we do. You know, we have our own, um, our own general contractor, and we are, um, you know, unlike some of the, you know, some other developers that sort of have, there's an entitlement, and then it's sold to someone else, and then it's built by someone else. Um, you know, Charlie, Coke, and I, or the, the, the folks managing this project will stay involved through construction. We have our own in house construction team, um, with our own employees that manage everything. Um, and so it allows us to control that communication and make sure it's happening between, um, you know, in a normal project, it would just be with neighbors, but in a situation like this with our, you know, with our own residents. Um, so we're planning to have, you know, and we don't have the dates fully worked out yet, but something like, you know, six months before construction start, and then one month before construction start, reach out to everyone and say, here, this is what's gonna happen, this is what to expect. This is when, you know, when things will start to happen and what it will look like. Um, and I think when we meet with residents, the, you know, part of that, um, presentation and part of that information should be, um, you know, should be, obviously, information about, here are the rent reductions that we're proposing, here's the one about the air filter, and this is what you should be looking for when you purchase one. Um, and then I think also, you know, exactly what you said, information about what they should expect, um, what they, what has been identified in the EIR, and then how that, um, you know, how they should take some precautions during their daily lives to make sure that they're not impacted negatively.

[01:01:36] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Well, another thing that I'm concerned about is, you know, this is gonna be a long construction project, and they're gonna be, you know, different phases, and, um, and there're gonna be different activities during each phase. And, you know, there'll be days, for instance, when you're doing a lot of digging, and that, of course, will be more of a problem. And then, maybe you're not gonna dig for, maybe you're only gonna dig for a week, and then you're not gonna dig for six weeks. So, uh, I'm really interested that, um, the community is aware, you know, the project community is aware of these changes as the, as the project progresses, so that they can, um, be more protective of themselves. So not just that there's a meeting, you know, at the beginning of the year or twice a year, but that, you know, there would be, you know, regular...

[01:02:28] Joe Kirchofer: Yeah, the ongoing piece of medications, yeah. No, and I neglected to point that out. So in those meetings early on, we would say, here's the general schedule, and here's, you know, for example, here's the three or four months when we'll be excavating the garage. That's what it would be the, you know, um, you know, dust from excavation. That would be the heaviest time for the dust. Um, you know, and then you'd expect this, then you'd expect this, and give them a general schedule. Um, but then we also, um, you know, add those meetings and from, you know, already the neighborhood and community outreach we've done. Um, we've generated a pretty strong email list. We, you know, ask people to sign up and say, Are you interested in receiving, um, construction communications, and then have, you know, a regular, like, a monthly or, you know, every, every few weeks, send out notifications of here's, here's what's going on, here's what to expect in the next three weeks, in the next month. Um, any updates, and then also um, notifications of things like, Hey, we're gonna start excavation on, you know, the 15th of the month, or, you know, the other common one is, um, there's going to be a construction pour. And a construction pour requires a whole lot of trucks to come all in the same, like, four hour period. So, you know, if it's gonna be on this street, there's gonna be traffic, so expect that from 8 a.m. to noon or whatever. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So those sorts of things would be in those regular communications that we would send up.

[01:03:47] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Well, I think that's really important. And, um, uh, and keeping up with that. And then I also think it's important for residents to reach out to you if, um, uh, you know, if, um, they're seeing something that isn't to their liking, and they want fixed. They should complain as quickly as possible, or let you know, maybe notify, is a better word than complain.

[01:04:12] Joe Kirchofer: Well, hopefully, it's notified and not complain. If we're doing our job right on the front end. Yeah, okay.

[01:04:17] Councilmember Pat Showalter: It should be hate. That's why this is going on. Another subject that I'm really interested in is, you know, you've done a good job, I think, of reducing the number of trees that need to be removed. But there's still trees that need to be removed. And everybody's sad about that. Particularly the redwood trees. And I think, I, for one, would feel a lot better about it, if I knew that the wood from those trees was going to something useful. I know, you know, I see a lot of trees removed around Mountain View, and they just mulch 'em. You know, I think that would be horrible to have these redwood trees just smulch. So I would really like you to investigate, um, using these trees as as much as possible. I know that, um, in Santa Cruz, there are companies that, um, where they have more redwoods than we do, that, um, do this kind of work, and, um, you know, some of the trees can be evaluated for, for how, um, valuable they are for lumber. They might be able to be used for artwork, used in the park for benches, that kind of thing. And I just, I, I, it would make, um... It would be a good, uh, just a good opportunity to, um, use sustainable, um, materials on site.

[01:05:42] Joe Kirchofer: Yeah, absolutely. No, that's, um, you know, we don't have any specific plans, um, for that, but as we design these buildings, it's, uh, you know, it's the most local resource we have, right? So, um, we can absolutely try to, um, try to incorporate those elements and, and, you know, work with local, um, you know, local mills and local lumber, um, lumber experts that can, uh, can help us make that happen.

[01:06:04] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Okay, I can give you a few contacts.

[01:06:05] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: All right, thank you. Okay, thank you. Thank you, counselor reliever.

[01:06:12] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Thank you, Mayor. I have a couple questions, uh, for the applicant, and then a question for staff as well. Um, if approved and things move forward, uh, would the residents, uh, there have, um, independent phone number, email, way of contacting with any concerns or questions about construction. that does not just go to the office and talk to the office about it.

[01:06:48] Joe Kirchofer: Yeah, so we, so we have, I mean, obviously, we have the on-site property management office. will have an onsite, um, Avalon Bay construction office and anytime work is happening, we'll have our own onsite construction staff there. Um, but we'll also have, so there'll be a contact phone number. Um, also a contact email for um, folks that have concerns. And then there's usually a separate 24 hour number. So if you, you know, something overnight that's an emergency. Um, there's a 24 hour construction hotline as well that we provide.

[01:07:17] City Staff: I would just like to add that this is also our standard requirement for the developer to have a disturbance coordinator and their information, published on all the street frontages along the construction fence, so that everyone has that information and also include that information clearly in the construction notices to be sent out to all the residents and neighbors within 750 foot radius. before demolition and before beginning the construction as well.

[01:07:49] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Okay, and that segues very well into my next question. Um, the individuals who live across the street, would they also have access, um, to that information flow and, um, et cetera?

[01:08:03] Joe Kirchofer: Uh, yes, yeah, yeah. The, um, the meetings ahead of time, we have a, you know, it's probably separate meetings because it's different issues, but, um, have a wider neighborhood meeting, and then, um, that notification email list would be, um, would be on site, as well as off site.

[01:08:19] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Okay. And from, it sounded from your comments tonight, and it's my understanding that the money that residents would receive towards air filters, um, would be separate and apart from the money that they would receive as as a rent rebate, uh, with you working in conjunction with the rental housing board. Uh, it sounded in the staff report that those would possibly be, uh, commingled or or that, uh, the air filters would come out of their rent reduction, but those are completely separate issues. Is that correct?

[01:09:02] City Staff: Maybe I can address that. Those are separate issues. The staff report was drafted before the applicant proposed to offer the reimbursement for air filters. So the staff report is only limited to the voluntary rent reduction in order to, um, you know, uh, accommodate whatever disturbances caused to the an inconvenience caused to the on-site residents during construction.

[01:09:27] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Okay, great. And, um, then I was trying to understand some of the information in the staff report about, um, the potential for health concerns, um, related to, uh, particulate matter, exhaust, et cetera. And so it, it seemed that, um, uh, the ratings that we were given were based on uh, a 24 hours exposure, uh, a 24 hour outdoor exposure, um, next to the machinery. And it seemed that, um, many of the contacts that I got from the residents were extrapolating that to mean, um, what it would be like inside their home. Uh, and and so can you parse that out for us a little bit?

[01:10:28] City Staff: So that is correct. As I mentioned in our staff presentation, the air quality modeling, uh, practice includes very conservative assumptions, which assumes that people are actually, the sensitive receptors are actually outside the building and Mulop 247. Um, you know, the building envelope um, actually helps uh, incredibly in reducing the amount of concentrations that go inside the building and in the indoor air quality. On top of that, you know, certain strategies, such as, you know, avoiding outdoor activities, during construction can also help, because for particularly for PM 2.5 concentrations, usually we have seen that the concentration levels drop significantly within one hour of, you know, ending the activity, the construction activity, that actually raises the uh, raises the concentration levels in the air. And, um, you know, other strategies such as using indoor air filters. I think I included it as part of the strap responses. Using an air, uh, indoor air filter with uh, Merv 13, uh, rating can actually reduce the indoor PM 2.5 concentration by 75%. So that is a significant strategy that can be used by people in order to reduce the impacts from the construction impacts actually.

[01:11:56] Councilmember Sally Lieber: And is the FKI planning to cover any type of um, monitoring device for inside a sampling of the homes or um, anything like that? I know that I have an indoor purple air monitor, um, so I can see what's going on with my indoor air quality.

[01:12:19] City Staff: I think if individuals would like to do that, people can do it on their own. That is not a required conditional approval for the project or a state mandated requirement.

[01:12:29] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Okay. And would the applicant be the one who's uh, responsible for, um, providing the health information to the residents?

[01:12:41] Joe Kirchofer: That's correct.

[01:12:43] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Okay, and do we have an ability to uh, say that that should also include um, disparate impact for children? Um,

[01:12:58] City Staff: Marquis Janey, I'm not sure if we can ask for that. Council member labor, um, uh, I think we're going to have to look at uh, the impacts as we've assessed um, in the, um, in the study, and we can uh, disclose any impacts that arise. And if I think we'll have to look and see if there are disparate impacts for children, but if there are, we can disclose them.

[01:13:26] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Okay, I'm very much interested in seeing that we include whatever information on that we can, um, find because I know that, uh, children's lung tissue is much different than uh, that of adults. you.

[01:13:42] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. Council member, I'll be okay.

[01:13:45] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: Thank you, Mayor. Um, so, as you, some of you may know. Um, I sit on the Bay Area Air College Connecting Management District. So this is PM 2.5 is very familiar to me. We've actually been discussing it for several years now and I'll share more during comments, but my questions, mostly are around the air quality issue. Um, I actually went and I sent the staff report and, um, the agenda item to staff at the at Bachmed and asked them for their thoughts and, um, they came back and, you know, they said that, um, if the applicant follows, um, all the the mitigation measures, there's not a lot more we can ask or do. But they did bring up their air filtration, um, equipment or filters, and, um, suggested that we could, um, make it a condition of approval. Um, but they did say that those filters should be, um, put in before construction begins. Um, I also learned, I guess later I, when I visited the site that the, um, windows are, uh, single, most of them are, the ones I saw were single pain, and, you know, uh, vice mayor brought this up, but, um, for me, I, seeing these, um, the conditions and then, um, the potential impacts. Um, I guess someone asked the applicant, would you be willing to do the improvements on the existing units 1st before new construction begins, as my air district staff recommends?

[01:15:35] Joe Kirchofer: Um, so we're absolutely providing, uh, not providing filters, providing, um, the rent rebate for filters. That would happen. I mean, we would make sure that there's time for, before any construction begins, folks can go out and buy that filter and have it in their home. Um, so if that's what you're asking, yes, absolutely.

[01:15:53] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Yeah, I guess I'm asking, uh, you know, I know you brought up the, uh, giving the tenant's choice. I think you can still probably do that, but I just want to guarantee that they're done. Um, so I guess I'm asking you if you would be willing to put them in before you start the new construction. And if there are single pane windows, I mean, that is a concern as well for me, um, in terms of not just air quality, but, I mean, the other issue that hasn't really been discussed here, but to me, um, is important because I've lived through practically 4 years of construction of 2 major projects across the street from me is the noise and, um, it gets pretty unbearable. So that's why like I feel that like the windows, the soundproof windows are pretty important for the existing tenants. So I guess what I'm asking is, would you be willing to do the renovations on existing units? before you start new construction.

[01:16:49] Joe Kirchofer: Um, so we, uh, we can't go through and do every window, like full window replacement, which is, you know, opening holes in walls, um, you know, tearing out a big chunk of siding at minimum. Um, we don't, I mean, that's a, you know, at least 12 months long process to go through the entire property, probably more like 24, um, along with a long permitting process as well. So, um, we we don't have the opportunity to do that full project before, um, before construction starts.

[01:17:22] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: Um, the other item, I I have similar concerns, this Council member labor with, um, children. I know the vice mayor brought up senior, like, what about accommodations for seniors, if anybody wants to relocate, and I was thinking that, what about families with, you know, children? Um, so how, can you be more flexible with the, um, you know, the conditions you, you mentioned medical conditions or in written, um, documentation on that, but I think there's more to beyond that, seniors, kids, you know, a lot of different, um, other conditions that I think we need to take into consideration of. So, are you willing to be more flexible with, um, you know, anyone who wants to relocate for some, you know, reasonable?

[01:18:10] Joe Kirchofer: Um, you know, I think this is this is where, you know, I think it's it's going to need to be reasonable. It's gonna need to be, um, a number that can reasonably be, um, be managed. Um, and, um, and not turn into something that is everybody that wants to move can sort of can just move for any reason. Um, uh, but yeah, you know, if the council wants to make, you know, I look as far as sort of expanding this from medical to sort of more demographic concerns, you know, I think that's, uh, it's up to the council to kind of let us know what the priority is. Um,

[01:18:42] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: and we can respond. I just think that, um, you know, I'm sorry, this is more commentary, but sometimes you don't really know what the effects are gonna be until you start to get into the situation. And, um, you know, folks who might think they can handle the, the noise in the dust and everything else realize they can't. And so I guess that's what I'm asking for is like some, some flexibility and understanding that you can't always predict what you, you don't know what you're going to get. So you can't predict that, so can you be, you know, accommodating to those who just, you know, realize a month or 2 afterwards that maybe this, they can't live in that condition.

[01:19:24] Joe Kirchofer: Yeah, no, I mean, absolutely, the, the, the way we envision setting up this program would be, um, you know, not, like, here, you know, get it to us by Friday or, you know, our deals off. It's, you know, there would be, you know, some amount of time once construction starts for people to come in and say, Hey, this isn't working.

[01:19:44] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: Thank you. Um, and then for staff, um, regarding the mitigation and monitoring plan, um, what are our mechanisms for enforcement, um, how, yeah, how do we go about enforcing all of these measures? staff that goes in and, you know, inspects ever so often or so on site or how does that work?

[01:20:08] Diana Pancholi: So some of the mitigation measures will have to be done prior to the building permit issuance in terms of, you know, instructions and stuff that has to be in place. So the type of, um, um, you know, instruments, construction equipments that people will be using on site. Some of the mitigations are more during, you know, would be inspected more during the construction phase when staff does usual inspections. And at the end of the day, the applicant has to certify that, you know, they have met all the conditions as well. Um, you know, that were put on them before we actually provide them with occupancy, um, final occupancy of any of the buildings. So it will be during different phases of the construction, some prior, some during construction, and some just before, uh, giving them final occupancy.

[01:21:05] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: So, um, You know, things like the, the daily tasks, such as, um, I think it was like certain vehicles of, uh, I forget what the, the, if it was, uh, a certain kind types of vehicles that minimize, um, you know, air, air quality disturbance, um, the sprain down at the end, like things like that. Do we monitor that? regularly or on a daily basis?

[01:21:35] Diana Pancholi: We do not monitor that on a daily basis at all our construction sites. Uh, it is a condition of approval, so the applicant is required to uh, make sure that they're following that. But it is inspected occasionally, you know, whenever different, um, uh, department staff members from the city staff are visiting the site uh, during different phases in order to inspect the project and the, um, and the development moving forward.

[01:22:07] Aarti Shrivastava: I'll add council member that, um, you know, every mitigation measure, um, has a different monitoring requirement. So they'll have construction, um, uh, monitors on site to monitor construction, and then that's, that's, again, reviewed by staff as our building inspectors go out, or, um, our planning staff goes out. Um, and of course, we always have our staff go out of feral complaints. Um, and then, um, and another example is if it's trees, you might have an arborist who has to be there or an archaeologist who has to be there with digging. So it all depends on the mitigation. We have different, you know, sets of people who monitor that.

[01:22:51] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: Thank you.

[01:22:55] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. Can't remember about a check.

[01:22:58] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: Thank you Um, just a couple questions here. Um, since this is the 1st time we're seeing, uh, a proposed statement of overriding considerations that has to do with health risk, um, I want to make sure I really understand this. And, um, I appreciate, uh, all of the responses in the council Q and A. I appreciate my colleagues asking some questions that I didn't think of. Um, I learned a lot from the Q and A. Um, but I was wondering, Um, you know, given the statement that was made when the analysis was done, it considers, um, your outside 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. So if someone is inside, um, you know, most of the day, maybe they're working. They go outside maybe an hour after construction stops, they're out on weekends. Um, Is there a way to quantify the drop in the risk? Um versus what was measured in the EIR.

[01:24:05] Diana Pancholi: Ah. Thank you, console member, we can probably try to um, assess that. Um, those levels, we do not have that information at this point of time, will require us to do some additional um, work, reassess some of the stuff in order to produce that result and present it to council. But it will be significantly less than someone standing outside at the edge of the construction site 247 for sure.

[01:24:34] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: Yeah, I guess I'm wondering, does it get to the point where, um, It's no longer a significant unavoidable, unavoidable impact. And I don't know if you can say that tonight.

[01:24:47] Aarti Shrivastava: Council member, I can try to answer that. I have that very question. One of the one of the issues is when we do our EIRs. Um, we are, uh, required to adhere to BackMed rules. Um, and we are required to be very conservative and measure the maximum impact. So, they really isn't a nuanced study that looks at, well, what happens if you do this or what happens if you do that? And I've never seen this for any development, because we are required very strictly to adhere to the most strictest of rules. Um, so, um, we can certainly ask for a qualitative sort of assessment of what happens, but, um, to see what, you know, if someone's indoors, doesn't reduce the risk. And what we've heard is, yes, it does, significantly. And then the air filters reduce it by 75% beyond that. So, but we, we don't have a number, if that's what you're asking. Um, and we also know that it significantly reduces an hour after construction is done, because they're required to water down the site. But again, we don't have a number, if that's what you're asking. Uh, we can only get some qualitative, uh, comments, which we did get when we talk to our consultants.

[01:26:05] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: Yeah, I'm trying to assess how would somebody who lives at the project site, or somebody who lives near the project site, alter what they do day in, day out to, um, minimize the health risks? And I'm not sure I, you know, I have some information on that. Um, but I'm not sure I have like the definitive word on that, um, which makes me a little bit uncomfortable. Um. Let's see, another question, um... You know, and as a council member, I'll be Koga was talking about this a little bit. Um, The conditions that say you can't start work until 7 AM, and must be finished by 6 p.m. Um, um, I've lived next to the construction site as probably everybody has at one point. And, uh, I would say that routinely, um, there was a lot of noise prior to start time because there are a lot of trucks that are staging. A lot of people, you know, coming to work and emptying their tools and, um, maybe doing something that they consider to be quiet work. Uh, and, you know, I'm wondering, how do we, have that so that doesn't happen so that it is quiet until 7 a.m. and it's quiet after 6 p.m. You know, just saying, you know, we check once in a while. If we're out there, if somebody complains. I don't really want to have the burden on the residents. Um, to enforce this. So, can something be done about that?

[01:27:52] Aarti Shrivastava: Well, the easy way to do it is to change construction hours, but then that typically lengthens the, the number of months it takes to do construction because there's a certain amount of construction that has to happen. And what we've typically found is, you know, our building staff, who does the most inspections, typically goes out and tells the, uh, tells the foreman or the construction manager or the contractor that, um, uh, you know, we have certain expectations, for example, they can do A, B, C, but they can't do DEF during this before construction time. And you're right, um, you know, folks do show up for construction, they might park in the parking areas or the parking lots. But I think we can certainly make it clear to them. Um, you know, start with Joe, but, uh, one of the things we do is, um, with projects like this is we will have a meeting with the contractor team, um, to walk them through the conditions of approval, so they're very aware of it. Um, and we can certainly tell them that the expectation is that they won't start with, with any sort of preconstruction activity other than just showing up.

[01:29:05] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: Okay, thanks.

[01:29:09] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. Council member committee.

[01:29:12] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Great, thanks. Um, so thanks colleagues. A lot of my questions have been answered, but I do have a couple that are left over. Um, and I just wanted to ask a few. So, um, this one is for the applicant. Um, there's, you know, been some discussion. I think about, um, about the park site. I was wondering if you could help answer the question that some of residents have asked about moving the park site, you know, perhaps putting it along the end of Cypress Point Drive, you're at 85. Can you maybe walk us through the rationale for where it is now and kind of, um, I guess the, I think anytime you try to move something, something else has to be moved. So maybe you can you can expand upon that for the public.

[01:29:56] Joe Kirchofer: Sure. And this has been, um, you know, staff may want to chime in as well because this has been a, a back and forth between, you know, us and staff in the community over the, you know, the course of this project. Um, the initial initial, um, I think a gatekeeper, um, uh, you know, proposal had the park at the corner of Cypress Point in Moffatt, um, which is very, very visible. You know, folks will know that there's a public park there. Um, but folks felt it just felt too close to a busy street, um, for, you know, a park, especially with, uh, you know, a lot of kid activity. And so it was moved into the center of the site, where it's shown today, which felt like the right mix of, you know, public facing and available to the wider community, but still a little bit more sheltered and a little bit more enclosed. Um, it's also a nice, you know, large, contiguous area that works well as a park. We've taken a close look. You know, we've heard the comments about moving the park to where Building C is and up along the freeway. We've taken a close look at that. you know, in order to, um, to provide a, you know, similarly sized, um, you know, amount and sort of scale of residential development. We would have to remove much more, um, in the center of the property where the park is today. You know, there's a large grove of mature redwood trees that has been preserved alongside the back, the north end of the park, in the proposed design. In order to fit, you know, even close to the number of homes that are proposed, all of that would be lost. Um, and, um, you know, and then, you know, the quality of the park, um, along Highway 85, there actually is no similar, um, grove of large native trees over there. There's a large number of invasive species there on that berm. Um, but there's, you know, it's not, it's not gonna create nearly the, um, the quality of the retained trees, um, that will be surrounding the park in the proposed location.

[01:32:04] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. I don't know if staff had anything else they wanted to add, but that answers fine with me.

[01:32:14] Diana Pancholi: I, I, we'll just, um, echo what, um, Joe talked about the uh, initial location of the park. It was at the Moffat in Cypress at the initial gatekeeper, and it was moved to the center based on city council's direction, earlier direction at the study session, uh, to the present location where it is right now.

[01:32:35] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Okay. Um, and then I'm just gonna keep asking questions to the applicant and then I'll go to staff questions. So to clarify, it sounds like, um, you would be willing to work with the existing residents on, um, being able to acquire the filters before, that the renovations, um, related to the windows would be something that could would happen, but it won't necessarily happen prior to the construction. Is that correct, just to clarify?

[01:33:08] Joe Kirchofer: That's right. Well, a full window replacement, you know, can't happen prior to construction, but if anyone has concerns, if there are, um, you know, windows that have any, you know, if there's anything broken, if there's anything wrong, if air is leaking, um, absolutely, that's something that can be repaired, um, on the existing windows, um, and like I said, we have, you know, there's a full-time maintenance team on site, um, you know, that's something that, that, that we can address, um, you know, right away. Um, so, so we can definitely address that. And then, like you said, the air filters, we would, we would make sure that, you know, that, you know, that meeting that's 6 months ahead of construction, we'd start talking about it then, and make sure folks had that rent credit in time to, you know, to have that air filter, you know, in their home turned on, um, on the 1st day of construction.

[01:33:54] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Okay. And then a question about the rent reduction. So, um, you know, I know that that the, it might depend, the reduction amount, um, would be dependent on maybe where people live within the property. Um, so maybe I know that it's, you know, early days yet, but could you maybe share with, uh, us what you're thinking about in terms of the, the reduction or how that program might be constructed? I know that it's kind of, In influx, I guess, would be the best way.

[01:34:25] Joe Kirchofer: Well, you know, I think it's going to have to be, there's not a one size fits all thing that would be, you know, logical or really fair, um, on the property. There are, um, you know, some things like, okay, hey, the pool is gonna be closed, because we're building the new pool. That would impact everyone on the property equally. Um, but, you know, through the different phases of construction. There are gonna be some apartments that are right next to construction for, you know, for six months for a year. And then they're very far away from construction later on. And so, you know, we charge rent by month. This would be a month by month formula. Um, you know, folks that are in close proximity to construction in a given month would have, you know, have a certain, uh, a certain reduction in folks that are far away, would have a different production.

[01:35:10] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Okay. Um, and then last question for the, for you, the applicant. So there's been a little bit of discussion, I think, about, um, I know that there were some questions earlier this evening about the parking and perhaps reducing the parking, um, and in, you know, in lieu of that being able to preserve more trees or perhaps a discussion about a mobility wallet or a mobility pass. Um, do you think that you could maybe answer, um, you know, where you are with that as well?

[01:35:43] Joe Kirchofer: Um, so, um, So I'm not sure exactly what, what, what, what the question is. We've, um, you know, we've looked throughout this project, we've been looking at ways to preserve more trees. And, um, I've found a lot. I've, you know, carved out, obviously, early on, carved a big chunk of building B away to save the redwoods along Moffat. And so we've been looking for those opportunities throughout. Um, the, you know, 3 179, um, you know, looked into that to try to see how it would be possible, and it's just, it's, it's in this central part of a large, three story, below grade garage. Um, and so, it would need, it would require a major redesign, and the loss of a huge number of parking spaces. Um, and, you know, staff can, can comments on the process and what that would mean. But, um, so, yeah, is that, is that, does that answer your question?

[01:36:36] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Yeah, I think that there was some, there was some question about, you know, could, um, could that change be made for preserving 179 and losing those 80 to 100 spots? And instead, residents would be interested in, you know, a transit pass of some kind? I think that was the question. Um, that was that was asked to me. And so I wanted to use this opportunity to ask it a view in this open in public meetings so that folks can hear.

[01:37:06] Joe Kirchofer: Yeah, so our TDM program already includes, um, and it's in the conditions that we, um, we need to provide a transit pass upon, um, on the 1st movements, um, for for residents. So, um, you know, so that that's already part of the project. Um, you know, I, I, I, I don't want to sit up here and say, like, Absolutely, we want more parking. You know, that's not, you know, I don't, I'm a developer. We want things to be efficient. We want things to be used. Um, but, um, you know, going well below the model parking standard, you know, and this is why I'm sort of looking at staff, I don't think that's our decision to make, and I don't know what the process is in the city of Mountain View to allow for someone to go that far below the model parking standard.

[01:37:51] Diana Pancholi: But council member, you know, I was waiting for you to ask staff questions before we could answer this one, but I'm happy to jump in. Um, I think in our staff presentation, We did not recommend a reduction of that size, because with projects, we always try to balance, um, all the various issues. We do know that the, you know, potential parking problem, or on site, or on street parking use has been brought up by Cypress Point neighbors. And we feel like the model parking ordinance does a good job of balancing, um, the parking need for high density development. It's already a reduction from our regular parking standards. And we know we've used it and it works, but going far below is something that we haven't seen before and is unprecedented, and we would not recommend it.

[01:38:43] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Okay. Thank you. Um, and then moving on to staff questions. So, um, in the in the council questions that were distributed, um, there was a question of if the um, air quality is, the effect is the same, all year long, and the response was no, the PM 2.5 emissions vary by the phase of construction and weather conditions, um, and that the concentrations drop significantly. It says within an hour of end of construction activity for the day. So, um, I was wondering if maybe, I don't know if there's any more that staff can elaborate on in terms of the varying emissions, um, that would happen with the construction because I think there's been a lot of question about that. And so I just wanted to highlight that and see if staff had any more they wanted to expand on.

[01:39:34] Environmental Consultant: I think, um, you have already summarized some of the key, um, you know, aspects around the PM 2.5 concentrations caused due to construction activities. Um, a staff uh, also retraded earlier. You know, the concentration levels vary when the activity is actually going on, what kind of activity is going on? Um, the amount of concentrations, uh, PM 2.5 concentrations due to air due to exhaust emissions are very different than soil movement, and the soil movement does add significant amount of fugitive dust into the air. So those kind of construction activities are also, you know, significant, which adds to the concentrations in the air. And apart from that, you know, yeah, the construction hour is also important, as you mentioned, and as staff reported, within one hour, the concentrations can be significant be lower.

[01:40:31] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Okay, and last question. So there's been a little bit of discussion. prior to my being able to talk about this project. About the Moffatt precise plan, and I believe council voted on on this. Um, could staff update us on where we are with them, off the precise plan, and I think that's coming back. I think late this year, early next year, um, if we could just answer that, that would be great.

[01:41:00] Diana Pancholi: Council member Kame, the Moffat precise plan is on the strategic roadmap action plan, and then it's slated to begin in 2023.

[01:41:10] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. Do we have an estimate of which quarter that'll be yet or not yet?

[01:41:16] Diana Pancholi: I am not certain about that. Ms. Shravastovva. Are you, do you have those details at this point?

[01:41:22] Ms. Shravastovva: Not at the top of my head. I'm so sorry, but we did, we did push that back because we, we had to um, expedite another study. So I think, um, probably 2nd quarter if I had to, if I had to guess.

[01:41:36] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Okay. Great, thank you. Thank you, Mayor. those are my questions.

[01:41:42] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. I appreciate all of the questions asked. I think most of the, uh, E areas have already been, um, investigated, but I did have a couple of additional questions before we moved to public comment. Um, and some of these are just, um, for my make sure I, I'm fully understanding some of the, the more technical, uh, elements that are, uh, covered in the EIR. So when we talk about sensitive receptors, what we're really alluding to our, the households on the, the project site. Is that right? So the folks who are living right on the 145 acre site. Those are the sensitive receptors.

[01:42:28] Environmental Consultant: So sensitive receptors can be on site can be off site as well. What backmet requires us to study as part of sequel is the sensitive receptors on site, which are, which will be closes because they have the maximum exposure to the to the impacts of the project.

[01:42:49] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Okay, and then, um, in the EIR. Or sensitive receptors, offsite. was the significant immitigable impact still identified, or did it only exist for the residents at 555 West Metalfield?

[01:43:09] Environmental Consultant: So the, as for the back met requirements, we have to study the um, sensitive receptors and the exposure to them on site. Um, you know, we as a voluntary effort. We did study of the exposures off site, but it should be noted that the, the moment, you know, you are off the property line, the, the, level of significance of the concentration actually drops significantly.

[01:43:37] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: There's probably no way to know this without investigation, but if we were to, for instance, completely level the site and redevelop it entirely. Do you feel that we would still have the significant, um, immitigable impact, the the air quality impact?

[01:43:57] Environmental Consultant: It is difficult to say without doing any further assessment.

[01:44:01] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Fair enough. I think I was similar to what Council member Magicic was asking. Um, hoping we can get a response, but that's okay. Um, so, uh, uh, one of the responses to the questions submitted in advance in the meetings, um, was, was pretty striking to me, and that had to do with, uh, the comparison, between, uh, the wildfire particulate matter, and the particulate matter, that would be generated from the construction, can speak a little bit more about that, and sort of give us a sense comparatively what the, The health impact is of the construction impact relative to wildfire, particular matter.

[01:44:46] Environmental Consultant: Um, sure, I can try to um, address that. So, It's very difficult to compare wildfires with the, um, concentrations that are generated to the construction activity. It will be actually comparing apples to oranges. We tried to provide an example of some of the concentration levels that were observed during the 2018 wildfire, uh, which ranged, um, you know, the PM 2.5 concentration range about 133, I think. Uh, you know, it is significantly higher. than, you know, something that has been observed on, say, this particular project. Although the concentrations at this particular project will also vary during the, you know, depending upon the phase of the construction and the time of the year and the day. Um, and it is also impacted by the weather condition. So it is really difficult to compare the two, but, um, you know, at a very high level, uh, one can say that the levels of concentration during wildfire are significantly higher than the, uh, what is observed at this site from this assessment.

[01:45:56] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: I think it's helpful just giving us a sense of, because it's not intuitive, looking at these numbers, what the impact might be, but I think everybody's familiar with the wildfire impacts, and so having that is a baseline might, might be useful in, in our evaluation. Um, when I met with several of the residents in the area, several had pointed out that there are, um, driveways that connect, uh, Cypress point to Central Ave, and there were concerns about, construction traffic using those driveways. Um, are there, uh, can staff get us, give us a sense or the applicant of the, uh, construction circulation that would occur and how we can work perhaps with the HOAs in the area to prevent, you know, the, the use of those. I think those are private driveways, not public right away.

[01:46:53] Diana Pancholi: So, um, truck hauling routes uh, are part of the construction management plan, that is a standard condition of approval of the project, and uh, for development projects, that is something that staff reviews in detail and assesses, um, uh, all these details during the building permit uh, phase. So that will be reviewed and much details will be produced at that point of time.

[01:47:23] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Okay, Joe, did you want to speak to that as well?

[01:47:26] Joe Kirchofer: Sure. Yeah, I can. I mean, you know, I think that's the, the, the, the most impactful construction traffic is gonna be the larger, you know, larger equipment, larger, uh, larger trucks in a, said, That's all governed in, you know, reviewed by the building department, uh, before permits are issued. Um, You know, for day to day, it, you know, it comes down to effective management of the site. It's, you know, a lot like the answer to the um, the construction timing. You know, how do we make sure people don't start, you know, we just need to have our staff there making sure that rules are followed. And, you know, we're gonna have, you know, we're gonna make sure that, um, that folks know that they can't be using the private streets to access the site, and, um, you know, provide enforcement on site and provide penalties to folks that aren't following the rules.

[01:48:10] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. Um, we spoke earlier about tree 179, the Redwood Grove, um, and and Y, uh, the applicant, um, feels those can't be retained, but we haven't spent as much time on, uh, the landscaping buffer between block C and, uh, highway 85. Uh, can staff or the applicant comment on why so much of that buffer would have to be eliminated, but what physical constraints exist that preclude the preservation of of trees in that area. And then also, um, provides some information about the, the ecological value currently of that landscaping buffer and then what would be, what, what the result of the, the landscaping plan would be.

[01:49:01] Diana Pancholi: So maybe Joe, I can start, uh, by providing some details, and you can add on to that. Um, the current landscaping condition and the existing species on site, um, the buffer between block C and the highway 85 are very invasive, um, um, tree species. A lot of them are not in good condition. Some of them are, but they are very invasive. And in order for the applicant to have the project as proposed to construct the underground parking garage, the applicant will have to remove some of those existing trees. The applicant is going to, um, you know, as part of the landscape plans, they're going to try to transplant. Or they're proposing to transplant a lot of the existing trees, which are being removed from other parts of the site, uh, in this buffer area. Once the site is leveled and, you know, they can plant, replant those trees, applicant will be trying to replant those trees. It is also from a biodiversity perspective, I think, the existing Brazilian peppers, which are invasive species and doesn't add much, doesn't have that amount of, you know, biodiversity values. Um, you know, the applicant is proposing to replace them with native plants and species along with the existing on-site trees that are going to be transplanted. And, um, the idea is to, you know, plant uh, trees and landscaping palette, which is going to be more suitable for the local area, and has a better chance to survive and grow and provide a better canopy uh, at these locations. Joe, do you want to add further to them?

[01:50:48] Joe Kirchofer: Uh, no, you know, I think that's, I think that's right. There are a number of engineering reasons why that berm can't be retained, you know, just simple grading, and the need to take the garage, and then, you know, emergency vehicle access for part of that area for the new building. Um, you know, but as Dana said, we've tried to prioritize. And I think we have prioritized and successfully come up with a new planting plan and a transplanting plan for that area that will provide a mature canopy, right, you know, right away when it's planted, and then, with a lot of fast growing native trees that will fill in, um, significantly, and improve the ecological, um, I guess, you know, the environment out there, the habitat.

[01:51:32] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Okay, so, so just parodying back what I've heard, the primary constraint in retaining the landscaping in trees in the area, again, is the underground parking structure. That's, that's the, the most, uh, significant, um, I guess, obstruction, the, the goal of tree preservation.

[01:51:55] Diana Pancholi: I mean, yes, and an emergency vehicle access. You know, we would need to have, um, you know, we can't have that way up on a hill, I don't think either.

[01:52:03] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Got it. Okay. That's helpful. Um, so we we have, uh, some additional questions, uh, after the public comment, I'll also, uh, ask, uh, if there are any additional questions from the council in case, um, members of the public uh, have ideas that we want to, uh, further evaluate. So I'm, I'm, I'm okay for now. Council member Abi Toka.

[01:52:26] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: Thank you, Mayor. I just had one other question come up. Um, based on the written questions and answers. I had asked a question about whether we could estimate, um, how many current tenants would have qualified for Trao if they were to be relocated. Um, and the answer was we didn't know, but then I saw the answer on the question about, um, AMI, um, from of the current tenants, and I'm just hoping it could remind me, um, Because it looks like from the AMIs, I'd say like 77% or making 60% to over a 100 20% AMI, but what was our limb AMI limit for Trao? Was it 120%?

[01:53:19] Aarti Shrivastava: Council member, give me a few minutes. I'll just take a look and confirm.

[01:53:23] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: Great. Thank you. We do have, um, our CS Safari staff member, um, Onki, uh, when Derson here, if, um, she would like to address that question.

[01:53:42] Aarti Shrivastava: Probably not, sorry. You can go on to the next, um, person. I'll get the answer. Thank you.

[01:53:54] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. Bye.

[01:53:57] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: So my question hopefully is super simple. Um, I, this is a question for the applicant. Speaking of the buffer area between 85 and the newly proposed departments, there is the emergency access lane, and I just wanted to ask and confirm with you, it was originally proposed as what looked to me like a pretty large swath of concrete, which is a big change to what's now a very natural area. Um, and I just wanted to confirm when I spoke to you one on one. You said you could change it to some other kind of surfacing, uh, permeable surfacing. I think you named Grass Creed. I know also reinforced gravel is another thing that I've seen used in sort of more park like areas. I just wanted to confirm that you're still offering to do that as opposed to cover that whole area with concrete.

[01:54:51] Joe Kirchofer: Uh, yes, we can do that.

[01:54:53] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Okay. Thank you. Thank you, and, RT, I think you have an answer.

[01:55:00] Aarti Shrivastava: Yeah, I'm reading from the administrative guidelines. The household income is 120%, uh, plus $5,000 or less of the area median income.

[01:55:15] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. So we will now turn to public comment. Um, actually pull up the agenda flow.

[01:55:25] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Any member of the public on the line like to provide comment on this item. Speakers are taking in the order, hands are raised in Zoom, so please click the raised hand button in Zoom or press star 9 on your phone. A timer will be displayed on the screen because there are a significant number of speakers. We will allocate 90 seconds uh per speaker. Uh, and the 1st speaker is Rick Gonzalez.

[01:55:52] Rick Gonzalez: Good evening. Thank you, mayor. My name is Rick Salves with SP at home. We're the voice of Affordable Housing in Silicon Valley. I'm calling to express our support for the project today at 555 West Meadowfield. This is a good project. Not only will it add 323 homes to an existing 402 unit apartment facility without displacing the resident, It will bring an additional 48 new deed restricted homes to the city. Which is certainly gonna help a large number of families continue to call Mountain View their home. Over the past six years, the developers work with staff and the community to incorporate feedback into the project design, which was noted tonight in significant comments throughout the discussion we just had. The developers committing to the safety of its community and its workforce, taking special care to mitigate potential impacts to existing residents and the environment. This is a worthy project that would bring much needed housing to the city at various levels. For the work completed and the work planned, I urge counsel to adopt the recommended resolutions, to advance the proposal forward. Thank you for your leadership and time this evening.

[01:57:08] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. The next speaker is Umberto Nava.

[01:57:15] Umberto Nava: Good afternoon, castle member and mayor, my name is Roberto Nava, and a member of local 9144 in Santa Clara County resident. I think the senior money view should require jobs like Cavalon Bay communities to commit to hire contractors to provide a weights that allows the worker to live and work within their communities and provide healthcare for the workforce. They're trying here to change the zoning for a greater density, for greater profits for the developer. Meantime, trying to get profits on the back of the working families, and expecting the senior mountain view, on accounting the foot bill for the healthcare for these hardworking families. The needle healthcare is not a matter of if, but a matter of when. Working families should not be left out of healthcare. Construction industry has a lot of risks, not only in accidents, on a job, but exposure to different hazards of materials. So yes, the chances of construction workers needing healthcare are pretty great. Last month I had, unfortunately, the event that I had to take care of my kid to the hospital. A surgery on one day, hospital stay landed me a $46,000 bill. Thanks to my employment as a unit carpenter, I do not have to worry about where I was going to get that kind of money. I could take care of what was important. Making sure that my son has the care he needed. We urge you to have the back of working families of the community, ensure the developer provide employment opportunities for residents, that provide a living wage, and those dollars are spent here in the community by a residence, supporting our local economy. Thank you.

[01:58:41] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. The next speaker is Daniel Shane.

[01:59:06] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Daniel, are you seeing, uh...

[01:59:12] Daniel Shane: I, okay. Um, there's absolutely a controllable way, uh, a way to control, uh, dust emissions from an air particular 2 2.5 uh, PM and 10 p.m. particulates with soil sealants, with water hoses, with fog nozzles, covering the dump trucks with tarps, and you put air monitors on the fence line, and they go off, there's an alert that goes off when you have reached a certain standard, so that people can stop what they're doing, and then go back and mitigate, and repair what they were doing, and then move on. Now, what we're missing totally here is a huge, a very large source of air quality impacts by the clear cutting of the tree canopy by Highway 85, and there's many heritage trees there. There may be invasive species in there, but they're only there because the Avalon Bay has provided zero maintenance over there, no maintenance, no watering, and basically have allowed these invasive species to come in with a little love and care and maintenance. This area can be made very healthy. Remember, it's not just invasive species over there, they are taking down multitude of heritage trees. So don't buy that. That is not true. So, we think that you can have both address the housing shortages and preserve.

[02:00:46] Daniel Shane: Thank you,

[02:00:47] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Mr. Shane, unfortunately, your time is up, so we'll move to the next speaker. James Kuzmo.

[02:00:56] James Kuzmo: Good evening, counsel. Um, I'm James Guzmo, I know, pretty much lifelong resident of the Willgate area, just a block or so away from the project, and I just wanted to, so that's my strong support for it, is a outstanding project overall. I look forward to being able to welcome new residents here as soon as possible. My only slight question is that it is, uh, it was some unclear to me from an earlier slide, what, uh, parking unbundling, would or wouldn't be present in this project since it said unbundling, but, uh, still said one space would be included in any weeks, and I know for myself, someone who doesn't own a car and hopes not to in the future. Love to have more apartments available where I did not have to pay for a parking spot as part of my weeks if I did not want to. But even if that is, uh, even if I still would have to, this is an outstanding project, and I look forward to it moving forward as, uh, with, as quickly as possible. Thank you.

[02:01:55] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Very much. The next speaker is Bruce England.

[02:01:59] Bruce England: Thank you bear. Um, Bruce England speaking for Green Spaces MV and Mountain View Coalition for Sustainable Planning. We support this project in the interest of realizing the additional housing it will provide, and noting that reduced vehicle miles travel, it should result as well. We're also happy with the open design for public connectivity throughout. And we hope that this precedent will lead to further pedestrian and bike access throughout the area, including where access is improved to the Stevens Creek Trail in both northbound and southbound directions. We've been very happy with accommodation we've seen from the development team, and we've had a number of meetings with them over time to discuss various concerns we have. Among our remaining concerns, we know that it's essential to save as many trees as possible throughout the development process, and that the new park falls short of Quimbiat guidelines, realizing we're thinking about the single project, not citywide compliance. Also, we would like to see parking policies that include moving to 100% unbundled parking, as James mentioned, plus anything they could encourage residents to use other modes for travel instead of their vehicles. Then for all residents, not just the new. Assurance that labor will be done by appropriate union members as much as possible with attention to benefits, local hire policies, and apprenticeship programs, and that reasonable asks from current residents and those nearby are taken into account. Thank you.

[02:03:19] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. The next speaker is Kelly Fallon.

[02:03:26] Kelly Fallon: Hi, my name is Kelly Fallon. I'm a senior policy manager at the Bay Area Council, which is a regional public policy organization representing over 3 of the members of the Bay Area Business Committee. And we strongly support the proposed development at 555 West Middlefield Road. The project will build mission and housing, including affordable housing, only a half mile from major regional public transit lines, and directly adjacent to local public transit as well as shopping restaurants in downtown Mountain View. This project will densify an existing underutilized info sites to bring housing and uniting specificity of Mountain View, while also retaining existing residents. We were impressed with Avalon's commitment to preserving the existing housing stock while also preserving and transplanting as many trees as possible. This is on top of all the efforts discussed tonight to mitigate the impact of new construction. The site is an excellent candidate for denser development, directly adjacent to transit, to grow the supply of housing and reduce dependence on cars. It's a clear example, sustainable, and inclusive growth from future generations, and I encourage you to support it. Thank you for your time and consideration.

[02:04:23] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. The next speaker is Kevin Ma.

[02:04:27] Kevin Ma: Evening, city council. My name is Kevin Ma. resident in San Antonio neighborhood. To answer an earlier question, Moffat Boulevard, we'll be coming up in Q1 2023. That's in the package of 7.one. But back to 555. Let us remind ourselves. What's currently on the side, as proposed, are parking lots and a tennis court. And we're here, and this project will provide homes for 300 new families of Mountain View. Those 300 people, if this project was not built, will go elsewhere. As the mayor implied, they would go to other places, that might be sprawling, because we know there's a lot of people who are deciding to move to, you know, wider landscapes, usually, in the wildlife urban space. And then they're probably closer to forests that might catch on fire, because the more people in the wilderness is more likely things to catch fire. And that's where we get the wildfires we see in 2018, and maybe more in this year, given how the droughts going. This project has gone through many hoops. It's gone basically through an entire housing of its cycle, and it's still not even built. And it's even included on the next housing element. So we're gonna have to find another 300 units to place for to match arena numbers for next time. But fundamentally, this is a product that is, has enough homes, provides a new public park that's really rare, provides money for connections to trails and sidewalks that we really cannot give up on. Like, the housing prices are still happening, there's new headlines of those inventory on record, and we really need to fix that sooner than later. Thank you.

[02:06:00] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. The next speaker is dimly Rafferty.

[02:06:21] Denly Rafferty: Okay. Mayor Ramirez, council members. I'm Denley Rafferty, and I live across the street from the proposed plans, and I am opposed to them. The plans, as they stand now, would stir up all kinds of particulate matter, that the trees now can control, but so many of them are going to be removed. And I think that they're treating this very lightly, but it will be a serious problem for those who have, uh, breathing problems, asthma, et cetera. There's no consideration for more schools, no consideration for the fire, no consideration for police. Um. Now you're giving these people half of filters. Are they going to give us across the street HEPA filters? No, I don't think so. And what about losing all the tennis courts? They use those constantly. More traffic and more noise. So I am opposed to this.

[02:07:42] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you for your comments. The next speaker is Sasha Broseck.

[02:07:51] Sasha Broseck: Hi, I own a home about 2 miles away, and I think this project is great. I wish it had been promptly approved back in 2015 and I wish projects like it had been approved 5, 10, and 15 years ago. And I wish that more projects like it will be approved going forward. This is exactly the kind of place that I wish I would have been able to move into 10 years ago. I'm older and more established today, but others have that need now and will continue to have that need in the future. And we owe it to that future to start building housing for them as soon as we possibly can. Projects don't really get any better than this. If it takes this long, almost a decade to approve a no-brainer. How can Mountain View possibly expect to meet its housing needs. So please swiftly approve this project and approve all the ones that come behind it. Thank you.

[02:08:36] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. The next speaker is David Levin.

[02:08:44] David Levin: Thank you. I'm the board president of the Cypress Point Woods Homeowners Association. We're a multifamily complex of 88 voting households in this community and neighborhood. The HOA adopted a statement urging your disapproval of this project as presented, and in support of the no block C mitigation, which I emailed council. Speaking personally, I believe that in addition to the block, the no block C mitigation, the developer should make three modifications. One, move the park space to the block C location and save the tree canopy. to add density to the new recreation building block A, which is currently only one story. The developer is proposing building 4 stories across the street from me. This could spread out the density. And three, shorten the six year construction timeline, it's unreasonable for our neighbor to inflict so many years of construction on this narrow street. And someone who lives directly across the street from Black Sea, I've watched what the developer has done. First, the developer proposed a project which is horrible. Then change the project to one that is merely terrible while patting itself on the back. But the developers nominating changes to the density and footprints of its original project. Thank you.

[02:10:15] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. The next speaker is Kenneth Doe.

[02:10:34] Kenneth Stove: Good evening. My name is Kenneth Stove, from Carpenters Union, Local, 9144. I would like the board to approve Avalon's plan for greater density because it makes the property more accessible and benefits to people that want to live and work in Mountain View. However, before granting this approval, there needs to be a requirement for Avalon. The city of Mountain View should not require Avalon to hire only local contractors who provide healthcare coverage for all their workers by requiring Avalon contractors to provide healthcare access on this project. The city helps improve community health by reducing the use of city and county public safety net program. Union employers provide health care to their employees at no cost to us. The South Bay needs more trained construction workers to meet the demands for the new housing tech industry expansion. And major public infrastructure projects that are already in the pipeline. Avalon should not be permitted to save costs by cutting corners on labor needed to properly build these resident, requiring union workers, ensure Avalon pays fair wages, use experience, well trained workers, leads to higher quality workmanship, meeting building standard, completing the project more quickly. For all these reasons, the Carpenters Union urge the city of Mountain View, adopt these labor standard as requirement for the Avalon Bay Middlefield project. Thank you.

[02:11:59] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. The next speaker is Ilya Gurin.

[02:12:06] Ilya Goran: Good evening. Can you hear me?

[02:12:09] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Yeah.

[02:12:11] Ilya Goran: Good evening. My name is Ilya Goran. I am an 11 year mountain year resident and elite volunteer with Mountain View Yembe. I urge the council to uphold the planning commission's unanimous recommendation to approve this project. The product will provide 323 units, including 48 Affordable, where there are now only parking lots. The project is located in a transit friendly location, adjacent to neighborhood retail. The applicant has made many changes in response to community input, including adopting a landscaping palette with native species appropriate to our local climate. Mountain View has a well known severe shortage of homes compared to the number of jobs that we have. People desperately need the homes that the applicant is proposing to build so that they can stop communing from places like Tracy and Gilroy. When we account for the, for the change in commuting patterns, this, this, contrary to prior comments, this project will reduce traffic and reduce air pollution. This project has been in planning for almost seven years, including 15 meetings, as previously noted, it's time to bring the planning process to a close by approving the project. Thank you.

[02:13:34] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. The next speaker is Kelsey Baines.

[02:13:39] Kelsey Baines: Hi, good evening, council members. My name is Kelsey Baines. I am with Yimby Action. We advocate for welcoming communities where everyone can thrive. I'm also a mountain view resident, um, and I live down the street um, from a construction site. Um, But it is a big displacement project um, that is under construction near me. And every time I walk by it, I feel sad, um, because I think about the people who used to live there. And I wonder what happened to them. Were they able to find another place to live or did they have to leave the area? Are they living in a vehicle or are they living on the street? Um, we know the the harms that these displacement projects have caused in our community, so I'm really excited that this proposal has a lot of new housing, 100s of new homes without any displacement, um, and it's doing it in a way that preserves, uh, scarce rent controlled housing. Um, I also think it's an excellent location. It's walkable to downtown. Um, people have already told you all the virtues of this project. Um, and I think it was unanimously approved by the planning commission for a reason. Um, I do appreciate how attentive this council has been in focusing on the, uh, health and safety of existing residents, and I hope that the the groundwork you've laid will allow this, um, this type of development to be a model for future projects, um, of a similar nature. So thank you for supporting this project.

[02:15:12] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. The next speaker is S, a letter S.

[02:15:23] S: I just want to remind everybody about the reserves. Um, it was uh, the key. You hear me?

[02:15:29] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Yes, we can.

[02:15:33] S: Can you hear me?

[02:15:35] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Yes, we can hear you.

[02:15:37] S: Yes. Yes. Okay. Um, I just wanted to remind everybody about the reserves in San Jose. It was the largest eviction in California history. Um, and it was largest it was one of the largest losses of affordable housing. Um, So this is where my, a lot of my questions come from and I didn't see it. So I'm asking. Um, are people who move from one building to another, getting paid for their moving costs. Will their rent stay the same when they move over there? Are they getting a buyout amount? Um, so if they move to another building, um, are they going to be, or if they move out of the building, are they getting compensated? Uh, the question about disabled people, are they going to be automatically allowed to move? Um, are they included in the 48 people? Um, how many people get to stay? I just have all these questions that I didn't see. So if somebody could answer, that would be awesome. But again, uh, the reserves is something that everybody should look at and, uh, is a case history and what not to do and just giving somebody $10,000. That's only 3 months right? So just a reminder.

[02:16:44] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. The next speaker is Corey Smith.

[02:16:51] Corey Smith: Good evening, uh, Marin Council, Corey Smith on behalf of the Housing Action Coalition, where a regional nonprofit that advocates for more homes for residents at all income levels and in strong support, uh, here this evening. And to be honest with you, it's not the 1st project that I've worked with Joe and Avalon Bay on. And you really do have something special and really a fantastic opportunity. And, you know, when projects come to us and seek endorsement. We do have a high threshold for what is high quality housing. And like, many other advocates and associating myself with Rick from SV at home, the 1st speaker. This is a really, really good opportunity and wholeheartedly encourage you. to approve the project. Um, I sent in a letter. Previously, I'm not going to actually comment on things that I had said in there. But accompanying it was a petition that we co-hosted with Mountain View, Yubby, and sent those in the majority of residents that indicated where they lived, indicated they were Mountain View residents, and I want to use my last 28 seconds to read some of their comments. Mikito said that they're excited to have more affordable housing in Mountain View that's so close to public transit. Simmons says having subsidized affordable housing for members of our community who have been pushed out is essential to a thriving society. Please bring more homes here. Rachel's a Mountain View resident who is a few blocks away, strongly supports. Paul supports the proposal. Bruce, who actually spoke earlier, housing is well designed, sorely needed to math with you. Please approve it. Thank you.

[02:18:24] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. The next speaker is Dita Dev.

[02:18:33] Gita Dev: Good evening, council members. My name is Gita Dev, and I'm speaking on behalf of the Sustainable Land Use Committee of the Sierra Club Lower Period of Chapter. Let me 1st say that the Sierra Club is very strongly in favor of infill housing, particularly transit oriented development housing. And we like working with developers to get the best result. Um, and we have a lot of success in doing that. I will say that this developer has not reached out to us. We did support, we did send in a 10 page letter of comments. Um, in order to raise some of the concerns, by no mean all our concerns. We have a very, uh, we have a very sophisticated approach in approaching, uh, how developments can be done to be good for residents, the environment and livability. We know that in 2021, Livability was the number one was one of the top priorities of the council, and we would like to bring up that this project could actually be a lot more improved. Could save a lot more trees. We do not believe that Joe Kirshner's approach to the buffer against 85 is going to work at all. We do believe that block C is not well designed. It's a very, very inefficient garage, and is very bad for the tree buffers and the trees. So we do think that the parking could be changed. We think...

[02:20:08] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Sorry, I have to be fair to everybody, and you were over time.

[02:20:11] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: The next speaker is Salim Damerji.

[02:20:15] Salim Damerji: I, uh, I'm Salim. I work and live in Mountain View. I support this project. Um, I've been to a lot of these meetings. Um, I think the developer has been really accommodating. There's a different request at every meeting, and somehow they keep managing to accommodate those requests. Um, you know, I started following housing and local government 2 years ago and I graduated from college. Um, and it felt like basically every few months, another friend of mine would leave the area. Um, and actually just found out another friend of mine's moving to Dallas, found that out a week ago. Uh, so it's disappointing to see a project like this, which would add 300 homes. Displace nobody. Just replace a parking lot. get so much opposition, and that's the reason there's a housing crisis. Um, I wasn't even in college when this project was 1st proposed. Now 2 years out of college. Um, and it's because of what we've seen with this project that it's so expensive to build housing. They're moving goalposts, from eating to meeting. There are people with homes here, pulling up the ladder for young people trying to get an anchor in the city. Um, and uh, I really hope you approve this project. 300 plus homes, affordable housing, it's walking distance, so much that's great in the city. Please approve this project. Thank you.

[02:21:41] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. The next speaker is David Watson.

[02:21:47] David Watson: Good morning, mayor and count. Good evening, Mayor. Goodness. Good evening, mayor and council members. I'm David. I've been a resident of Mountain View all my life. Growing up in this town, my friends in school who didn't go into tech industry, were all pushed out of Mountain View, because there's just not enough homes. I now have 2 daughters, and I want them to have the option to keep living in this city, no matter what careers they go into. Projects like this one or how we make that possible. When I've spoken in person to each of you, I've always been impressed by how much you value making space for new neighbors while avoiding displacing those who are already here. Today is your opportunity to live up to that promise. New development just doesn't get any better than this. Uh, I, uh, I'm sad that Salim sort of stole my thunder about friends leaving, but, uh, yeah, that is the, uh, that is the common experience. anyway. Thank you very much. Have a good evening.

[02:22:50] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. The next speaker is Celia Paymer.

[02:22:57] Celia Paymer: Hello. Uh, yeah, my name is Celia Paymer. Um, can you hear me?

[02:23:04] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Yes, we can.

[02:23:05] Celia Paymer: Okay. Today, I would like to speak for both Green Spaces Mountain View, and then for myself, is a 15 year Mountain View citizen. Um, As a green spaces representative, I would like to state my appreciation for the revised planting palate that emphasizes native plants and biodiversity. Um, we would once again like to emphasize our goal of maintaining the canopy between the site and 85, as the trees do help filter pollutants, um, and, uh, we know that you're going to do the transplanetaries, but we know that they don't all take. So hopefully there can be a mitigation plan for any trees that don't survive the 1st couple years that they could be replaced with large scale trees. Um, We also ask the city to consider eliminating parking along Cypress Drive and extending the median as an opportunity to allow this project to increase canopy along the road as well. In terms of park space. We feel this project met the requirements for when they began the proposal. Recognizing this, we support the project, but it has made us very aware that the city's proposals for park space and in Luffy ratios are not meeting the Quimby act requirements. We hope city staff and city council see this as an eye opener, how we need to update our park space and few ratios for future projects to make sure we are catching up with, or at least meeting our Quimby act requirements. Um, As a mountain view resident, I support the project as I see any parking lots converted to housing is saving open space in our region. Higher density is good for green spaces all around. And finally, my cynical side has to wonder how many of these safety considerations are really nimbism in disguise. As a teacher, working along much construction, we were not given new windows filters or anything.

[02:24:40] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: I'm sorry, your time is up, and I have to be fair to everybody.

[02:24:44] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: The next speaker is Daniel Halsey.

[02:24:49] Daniel Halsey: Hello, can can you hear me?

[02:24:52] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Yes.

[02:24:53] Daniel Halsey: All right. Uh, so, uh, I'm here to support the the project. I'm a Mountain View resident. I, I, live in San Antonio area. It kind of, you know, it feels a little bit weird to have everyone talk about the noise and construction and everything when, you know, we have to put up with it over here. So why why should it be any different anywhere else in the city? Um, so this is a great project. It builds 300 units. Um, notice placement, builds them on a parking lot. I hate parking lot. So, I'm really glad that that's how it's being built. Uh, yeah, there's trees here, but they're parking lot trees. I don't think that's really a legitimate environmental consideration. Um, you know, it's in a really good spot. It's like, uh, a lot of jobs. It's by downtown. Adds a park, adds a bike lane. It goes through, it adds all these things. All these different boxes that this development checks, you know, if we can't build this, what can we build? Um, one wonder. So, I think it's good, and I think people should recognize, you know, that this is a net good project, take the win, move on to the next thing, uh, and build some housing. Thank you.

[02:26:15] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. The next speaker is D.

[02:26:21] D: Hi there, good evening, city council, and thank you so much for your time. I know it's a long night. I am a resident of the property that. we're discussing tonight. And frankly, I'm surprised to hear that Avalon Bay feels like they've been responsive to residents concerns, from my perspective, that has not been the case at all, and I have 3 examples of that. Um, one is that there have been significant issues with our windows. The windows are quite cheap here. Um, just on a day-to-day basis, a single gust of wind will allow bugs and dust to come into my apartment just with the slightest gust of wind that'm constantly killing flies in my own home when all the windows are shut. So an air filter is simply not enough once construction begins. I believe that unequivocally you shouldn't have to have a documented medical condition to not want to breathe in contaminants for multiple years. And I'll also say that maintenance staff has not repaired windows when asked in my apartment and in multiple other units of my neighbors. They've stated they cannot because it's been too expensive and they wouldn't be allowed by Avalon Bay. So I just want to make that clear. Um, I also think that removing precious heritage trees is just unconscionable. I don't understand why having more parking spaces is a justifiable reason at all to destroy these precious trees and contribute further to global climate change, the effects of which are just growing more and more irreversible. I don't think we need to play any role in that if possible. So preserving the canopy where block C would be, I think, is a really ideal solution rather than building more there. Thank you for your time.

[02:27:52] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. The next speaker is Evan Adams.

[02:28:00] Evan Adams: Hello, council. Thank you tonight for listening to all of our comments. I, you know, I urge you to support and move forward these homes. It took me 20 years of hard work to get back to the Bay Area. That shouldn't be needed if we had enough housing. You know, here I see in the middle of a national housing shortage, more homes in the most important place, perhaps in the entire country to create homes. This project has lower costumes. They're critical to house the people that work in our essential support jobs. They keep our society moving. You have to house them. You start by creating homes for contractors and essential people in our community, and that will allow us to create more homes in the future. More homes en masse. I'm sitting here tonight in my leaky 1960s era home with leaking ducks. When I turn on the heat, it smells like dirt. New homes provide better air quality for the people that actually live in the building. Think of the people you'll serve in these homes. Construction is a transient state. But these homes for other people. These homes can be their homes forever. Please support this.

[02:29:16] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. You very much. The next speaker is Terry Rail.

[02:29:29] Terry Rale: My name is Terry Rale. And I've lived at Cypress Point. Lakes at HOA with 302 condo units in Mountain View since 1986, right across the street from where this is going to be built. I've heard a lot of empathy from the council for the renters of this property. However, not as much for the homeowners in the neighborhood, who are going to have to deal with the noise, air pollution, and disruption during a seven year building cycle. I think that any money that the city gets from the developer should be used for development options for Cypress Point Woods, Cypress Point Lakes, and Willow Parks, whatever we determine. Many of the owners along Cypress Point Drive, which are 46 property owners, are probably gonna have to spend quite a bit of money to mitigate the air quality issues of this project, including installing double painted windows, putting in adequate air purifiers, and increased PG&E bills. We do not have air conditioners, and it is very difficult and expensive to install them in our 1970s built buildings. Also, I was sad to hear about unbundled parking. This is new information from me. People may not opt to get parking because they would prefer to get reduced rent, and so they're even gonna park on the street, or they're gonna see that we have parking in our complex, and they're just gonna start parking in our parking lot. So.

[02:31:03] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much for your comments. I'm sorry that you've exhausted your time. I'm gonna move on to the next speaker. Annette Lynn.

[02:31:14] Annette Lynn: Hi, my name is Annette Lynn. Um, I am also a resident of Cypress Point Lakes. I've lived at 505 Cypress Point Drive. Um, for about 10 years now. I'm a transplant from Southern California and I moved to the Bay Area for work after finishing school. Um, I chose Mountain View to live in because of um, its accessibility to parks for its diversity. And the comparative density of residential and commercial areas, among other reasons. And to me, a project like this means that more of my friends and peers, young professionals can afford to be my neighbors. There's more livable space, there's more walkable space, there's more diversity for mountain view, and there's more park space for us to enjoy. Right now, when I take walks, I find myself pretty much either walking south to Cache Street east to Stevens Creek Trail or west to the 100 Moffat Development in Jackson Park. I don't walk north because there's nothing there. So I'm really looking forward to something like this project being built, and I really support, um, not being there, and, um, the fact that there won't be displaced residents, I think, is, like, nothing short of a miracle. Um, I'd like to thank city council and city staff for working so hard to, um, look out for our interests. And that is all.

[02:32:44] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. Thank you very much. The next speaker is Christopher Berry.

[02:32:54] Christopher Berry: Hello. I sent a written list of issues and concerns to city council yesterday. Uh, so I do please ask that everyone please look at the email that I sent, especially around my concerns about uh, Block C and drilling down 3 stories and adding risk of water, potential water contamination. So please do look at that. However, I just got the city council, uh, meetings, uh, I'm sorry, answers, and I have an issue with reply seven. Many units, my included, are not well sealed being constructed in the 70s, as many units are on Cypress Point. We do not have AC, and thus, we cannot close all our doors and windows during the summer months during construction. So, unfortunately, during summer, all our windows and sometimes doors aren't open. That means all the contaminations, for those buildings near that construction site, are gonna be having higher exposures to the PG2.5, as well as other contaminants that could be found. And then if we do end up closing all those and then having to buy AC units, our power bills are going to go through the roof. Now, I understand, mountain view has exceeded its goal for playing new units, and thus the added health risk as well as the potential negative effects of the high density of a block C. is going to cause other effects. For example, in Cyprus, We will very seriously look at putting traffic and mitigation fences in place to deal with the increased load on our property.

[02:34:25] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. Thank you very much. The next speaker is Elsa Lao.

[02:34:34] Elsa Lao: Hi. As a clinical psychologist living at 555 West Middlefield, I've witnessed firsthand the ecosychological benefits of our community trees. There's an extensive body of research that shows that small local tree ecosystems buffer against depression, anxiety, stress of living in densely populated urban areas, and even enhances immune functioning and COVID lockdown adjustment. So destruction of these trees fuels the climate and mental health crisis. each tree counts. And if this proposal is accepted, please consider these mitigations. Firstly, save beloved heritage Redwood Tree 179 and others in block A by reducing proposed parking, which is feasible due to the unbundling and offering mobility passes. Many of us work from home and bike or rideshare, and many of my neighbors and myself don't own a car. Um, and secondly, save the tree canopy buffering highway 85 pollution, or replaced with 50 plus gallon trees that can mature quickly. The EIR states a risk of significant and unavoidable health impacts, hold Avalon accountable to upgrading existing units to double pain and notifying residents so they can make informed choices. Lastly, if we must have a park, include mature trees, add redwoods as they are climate crisis warriors, sequestering carbon in greater magnitudes than any other species, yet 96% have already been logged. So please, please, I ask if you create a community that fights the climate crisis and mental health crisis as well.

[02:35:58] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. Very much. Next speaker is Doug Cheshire.

[02:36:09] Doug Cheshire: Yes, good evening, Mayor Ramirez, um, Bell council members and staff. My name is Doug Cheshire. I'm a field representative for Carpenter's local 405 here in Santa Clara County. And on behalf of over 7700 members, I ask that you stand with us in opposition of the 555 West Meadowfield Development. This project is currently proposed fails to address that what should be considered in responsible development. There's a lot being asked for by Avalon Bay communities. Projects of this scale that pass through this council should have community benefits that bring opportunity to community as a whole, not just a developer, benefits that include apprenticeship standards, that create career path opportunities for women, minorities, and at risk youth to enter the construction industry. While making sure the men and women who are building it are provided to healthcare that currently only 13rd of the construction workers in California are receiving. Giving the local workforce the ability to work at home with a local hire requirement, which helps reduce the project's overall carbon footprint. while keeping earnings in the local economy. These are just three things apprenticeship, healthcare, and local hire. They would benefit and provide opportunity to the residents of Mountain View. Again, I ask you to deny this resolutions before you, tonight, thank you for your time.

[02:37:27] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. The next speaker is Hala.

[02:37:36] Hala Alshawani: Good evening. you hear me?

[02:37:39] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Yes, we can.

[02:37:40] Hala Alshawani: Okay, great. Um, thank you, mayor, council members and city staff. My name is Hala Alshawani. Um, I'm a longtime resident of Mountain View, and I own a condo where my 85 year old mother lives across the street. Oh, thank you for putting the photo. I would like really the council to hear us very cloud and loud and clear, us who have residential units on Cyprus Point Drive or who live there. are not opposed to high density. We welcome high density, well planned high density units, that are balanced with the environment, and the health of the residents on that street. We will be less than 40 feet across from the project site, and we will be impacted greatly by all the particulates, all the noise. Um, all the construction, um, hazards that we might be exposed to during the 6 year period. We urge the council to push to keep the buffer, um, as it is by 85 to give us more protection, and to mitigate the issues of the health impact during construction. And to look about displacements. I might have to displace my 85 year old mother. And I will not be able to afford really taking her somewhere else where it's going to be near downtown, and all the conveniences that we have. So there will be large displacements of a lot of the seniors that live on Cypress Point Drive. So I urge you not to approve this project as it is and ask for these mitigations and changes before you go ahead and approve it.

[02:39:26] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. Thank you very much. The next speaker is Rise of Singh.

[02:39:34] Risa Singh: Hi, can you hear me?

[02:39:37] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Yes, we can.

[02:39:38] Risa Singh: Hi, my name is Risa Singh. I'm a longtime employee at NASA and member of MVMB. I'm calling in to urge you to approve this project. This project brings much needed housing. 15% of which will be affordable. More importantly, I urge you to remember the lives of the trees burned in last year's Dixie Fire, which was the largest single source wildfire in California's history. Please also remember the lives of the trees lost during the 2020 August SCU lightning complex fire, which sent our AQI soaring to nearly 300 and gave the Bay Area the honor of having the worst air quality in the world. Last but not least, I would be remiss if I did not ask you to remember the lives of all the trees being cut down to make room for housing in Morgan Hill and Gilroy. All trees matter, not just those within the vicinity of this project in mountain view. Every year, we break a new record with wildfires. How many trees have to go up in flames before we realize that housing policy is climate policy. We need housing and urban info areas near jobs, schools and healthcare. Please approve this project and thank you for your time.

[02:40:56] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. The next speaker is Christine Keller.

[02:41:02] Christine Keller: Hello, counsel. Um, this is Christine from 555 West Middlefield. I currently live in the very middle of the project site, right next to block A, where phase one demolition is proposed to start next year. Um, I overlook where the 1st of the worst of the air quality we would see. We have unsealed windows here, unsealed sliders that are many, many decades old, I believe, since the 60s. Um, we have stuck toilet paper and the edges of our windows to deal with the forest fire air. We are very much against this proposal as it stands. Um, we want to see changes to help protect us as residents and the many, um, elderly senior residents on our street. Uh, we want to see our redwoods preserve, number 179 is the biggest redwood I've seen in Mountain View. It's estimated to be 300 years old, and we want to preserve it, as well as the canopy along Highway 85 that currently protects us. We are in favor of less parking for trees. We, I have a car. I am willing to get rid of it. My partner doesn't have a car. We are willing to meet the environmental needs that are existing now. We're worried about our health. We can't, we need to have our windows open 247 and that kind of air pollution would really cause us a lot of significant harm. Where for mobility wallets, where for mature trees and parks, please, please save our trees, and protect our health.

[02:42:35] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you so much. Thank you very much. The next speaker is Vince Rocha.

[02:42:47] Vince Rocha: Good evening, Mayor and Council. My name is Vince Roadshow. the Vice President of Housing and Community Development with the Silicon Valley Leadership Group. We represent over 350 companies in the region from our large employers to startups. And the needs for housing people of all incomes is a top issue of concern for both businesses and residents. As you know, the leadership group has long worked to improve the quality of life in Silicon Valley. supporting funding measures for transit, like BTA and Caltrain, supporting affordable transit oriented housing that we're seeing being proposed here, at 55 West Middlefield goes alongside that transit very well. And it hits those marks of being a high quality proposal that will address our housing shortage and smart growth. With that, we're proud to support this development, encourage your support. Thanks.

[02:43:34] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. The next speaker is Amy.

[02:43:39] Nicholas Feinberg: Uh, hello. So this is, I'm actually Nicholas Feinberg here on Amy's account. I've been a resident of Mountain View for 10 years now. Uh, initially, I was a renter for 9 of those years. And I'm now a homeowner here in Mountain View, uh, for the 1st time, and I want to express my support for this project. As other people have more eloquently said before me. Uh, this is, how, we, we are in a housing crisis, and the lack of housing is causing immense impacts both in terms of the affordability of the area for us and for our children and for our friends. And also in terms of climate impact, in terms of people commuting enormous distances and from climate threatened areas, in the wilderness, urban interface. And I recognize, I recognize the concern of others about the removal of heritage trees for this site. But, it seems clear to me that in the balance, that the current plan being proposed makes a good effort to minimize the damage down to that, and that the overall balance of concerns means that this is a clear win both for the area and for the climate as a whole. So I do encourage the council to approve this proposal. Thank you.

[02:45:01] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. The next speaker is Tim McKenzie.

[02:45:07] Tim McKenzie: Greetings, counselors. Um, Tim McKenzie, resident of Mountain View for about 7 years, um, I'm involved with various local groups, but just, uh, speaking for myself tonight, it's great to see a project with no displacement and addition of affordable housing. Uh, I, the one thing that really sort of disappointed me a little bit was seeing that density had changed as part of the process and that there were 6 fewer units. I'd love to see more neighbors coming in looks like a great project. I'm, was when I 1st moved to Mountain View. It seemed like every time I would hear about something, it would be tearing down run controlled housing to build luxury apartments. So being able to maintain uh, affordable housing and uh, add, add in some affordable housing is great. Looking forward to seeing this project go up and having an anchor to uh, extending downtown from Castro to Moffatt. So maybe I won't have to go to the other side of the tracks to go check out downtown. Thanks.

[02:46:15] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. The next speaker is Robert Cox.

[02:46:20] Robert Cox: Can you hear me?

[02:46:22] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Yes.

[02:46:24] Robert Cox: When I 1st read that the project would require a statement of overriding consideration due to health concerns, I was alarmed, that this might be done without a careful consideration of medications. So with the steering committee of livable Mountain View, I wrote a letter to the EPC, asking for more details about what risks what the risks were and what could be done about them. I'm glad to see that there has been a constructive dialogue with the residents and the council who identifies specific mitigations, in particular resident relocation opportunities, air filters, and window replacements, or existing units. I thank the council members also for asking about extending protections to seniors and children. I do wish that something specific could be done for the residents across the street, in the Cypress Point condos and townhomes who will also be effective. But above all, I urge the council to make these mitigations. Uh, specific conditions of project approval. Thank you for considering my views. I yield my time.

[02:47:32] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. The next speaker is Steve Peters.

[02:47:39] Steve Peters: Hi, my name is Steve Peters, and I live across the street from this project at Cypress Point Woods at the end of the street. Well, our HOA has submitted a statement in opposition to the 555 Middlefield project. I disagree with that statement and spoke against it at HOA meetings where it was discussed. There are some valid concerns about the project, such as the impact of overflow parking onto the street, and the duration of the construction, but I think the addition of new info housing is worth it. I moved to Mountain View in 2012 when our oldest child was only a few months old. She's now a 4th grader at Thirkoff Elementary School. We love Mountain View and are active volunteers at school and church. We've made many friends here from our neighbors and my children's classmates. Sadly, many of these neighbors and classmates have left Mountain View due to unaffordability. I'm hoping that providing additional info housing without displacing existing residents will help people stay. I really like the neighborhood and street where we live. And I'm looking forward to meeting new neighbors. Thank you.

[02:48:50] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. The next speaker is Gareth Shannon.

[02:48:56] Brittany: Hi, can you hear me?

[02:48:58] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Yes, we can.

[02:49:00] Brittany: Hi, this is actually Brittany. I'm using Garrett's account. So I'm a current resident. I've lived here at East by Avalon since 2016, so about 6 years now. I love living here and it's become our home. I have actually brought a few residents to this apartment community. I object to the proposal at 555 West Millfield Road. I used to live in the end building, and if you're not familiar, that's the closest building to Highway 85. The noise from the freeway was so unpleasant, it became unlivable. And we had to move to another building in the same apartment complex. You might be wondering why would you move in if it's so noisy, but sometimes you don't get to view the apartment before you move in. This proposal talks about block C. Which is going to build even more housing even closer to highway 85. I can tell you with certainty that no one would be able to live that close to that freeway. If they did, they wouldn't be staying long. And if you don't believe me, you can take a drive over to that parking lot to see how loud it is. Thank you for your time.

[02:50:07] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Very much. The next speaker is Kayla Hardy.

[02:50:12] Kayla Hardy: Was it okay? Hello, my name is Kayla Hardy. I am a resident of 555 West Middlefield Road. I have lived here for 2 years. My 1st thought is I would love to save tree number 179. It is the biggest tree on the property, and while we can't save all the trees, I think we should save the biggest treat on the property. I am in support of having less parking, and I am in favor of having the mobility wallet. I currently, my partner and I currently do not have a car and have not had a problem using biking, walking, and public transit. There is currently a parking lot at our apartment that is blocked off and is not even being used. There are so many parking spaces that are not currently being used. The 2nd part is, well, we say that there is going to be no displacement for this project. There definitely will be. And I just want to have more protection against the pollution and the noise. Um, someone mentioned it before, but yeah, we have the sliding doors that are leaky. I've asked maintenance too, like, feel it better, and they said that it wasn't something they could do. So I think, like, having double pane windows would really help with the noise and pollution. I'd also speak to the noise at Highway 85 and I think it won't be that enjoyable for people to live that close to the highway, especially with reduction of the tree canopy. Thank you.

[02:51:41] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Very much. The next speaker is Sean Rowley.

[02:51:47] Sean Rowley: Hello, council members. I am a current resident of the project community, and I wanted to 1st give my general support for this project, but also voice my strong opposition to any plan that involves the destruction of so many heritage trees. Removing the redwood tree number 179 is particularly egregious to me, and no amount of newly planted cherry or paper bark trees will be able to make up for the loss of that century's old giant, and the many other towering redwoods that would be lost with this plan. I will leave it at that, but thank you all for the very educational Q and A session and the opportunity to speak.

[02:52:26] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you for your comment. The next speaker is Peter Katz.

[02:52:34] Peter Katz: Thank you, Mayor Ramirez, and good evening, city council members. I'm Peter Katz, CEO of the Mountain View Chamber of Commerce. Chamber supports this project as we feel it represents responsible, intelligent community focused development. The developers have made the important changes that have been requested and those required for compliance. They have gone to great lengths to reduce the disruption that any construction project causes. The shortage of housing continues to be a critical issue for our region directly affecting our local businesses, large and small, as well as our city's vitality. We cannot be enactive and the need is acute. Fortunately, Mountain View has been forward looking in its approach and approved, responsible projects that match our city's need and character, including their design, location, health considerations, and community amenities. Building these sorely needed complexes, the long and complicated process already. City staff has done a remarkable job of balancing significant numbers of variables. To ensure the project is as beneficial as possible, minimizes destruction as much as possible, and holds the health and safety of our residents at the forefront. It is understood that we continue to demand new clan changes and revisions. We are in danger of rendering them economically impossible for completion, leaving us back at square one. So it is our hope that the city council will adopt the resolutions as outlined in the city council report and enable the project to continue. Thank you.

[02:54:03] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. The next speaker is Sayo Namura.

[02:54:13] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Yes. Hello? Go ahead.

[02:54:17] Sayo Namura: Good evening, mayor and council members. My name is Sayon Nomura. I am a resident in Cypress Point Drive. I have lived here for over 20 years, and I left that nice and established open community here, but we will have to suffer not being able to open windows for a long time. We have elderly, kids, dogs, and cats. I would like to request to reduce that you need to make construction, uh, charm shorter, and move the park to block C to save 3 canopies. Pre save trees. And we love mountain view. And I really, really hope that mountain view city council members protect the residents living here.

[02:55:08] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. Thank you. Next speaker is Maria Zhang.

[02:55:19] Maria Zhang: Hi mayor, thank you and thank you council members for listening to our concerns. I'm currently a resident at 555 Middlefield Road, and I'm calling to share my concerns, and I'm asking you to not approve this project. The issues, I'm worried about our health concerns for current residents and quality of life. There's issues with the particulate matter, and our current doors and windows, as some residents mention, are really flimsy. Right now, there is construction going on to renovate our hallways, and even with that, just that renovation. There's paint, um, dust, that and wall particular, from, um, sanding the walls, that seeped in under our doors, and it's also stinging our eyes to experience the, um, the painting and the renovations that are going on in the hallway. And I'm also worried about having to stay indoors and live with air filters, just maintaining air filters when a lot of us really enjoy walking amongst the redwood trees, and being able to hang out on our balconies or open the doors in the summer. So thank you for listening to us, and I'm asking you to please vote no on the proposal.

[02:56:33] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much for your comments. The next speaker is Diane.

[02:56:49] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Diane, are you able to Unmute yourself.

[02:56:54] Diane Gizano: My name is Diane Gizano, and I have lived in Mountain View since the 1960s and on Cypress Point Drive since 1976. Cypress Point Drive is a very, very long Dead End Street, which runs into Highway 85. What makes our street livable is the trees. We are not against more housing, on our street, but we are against the proposed proposal of avalon. So many good ideas have been poured forth from our community, detailing how more housing and heritage trees can coexist. It's unconscionable to me that one of the oldest redwood trees, maybe 300 years old, is going to be destroyed, and the tree canopy along 85, 'cause they're doing their work protecting us from noise and pollution, and also providing beauty. The environmental, the environmental, our health, both physical and mental, and the livability of our street is at stake tonight with your vote. Move Mountain View for it, not backwards. Please do not tell our young residents at Avalon to stay inside all day long with a mask on from seven to seven for seven years during constructions. Please do not create a city where the trees have to be removed from the logo. Please vote for mitigations, our vote, no, for this project. Thank you.

[02:58:24] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. The next speaker is Roberto Aguilera.

[02:58:33] Roberto Aguilera: Hello. Good evening. Can you guys hear me?

[02:58:38] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Yes, we can. Sorry about that.

[02:58:41] Roberto Aguilera: Hi, my name is Roberto Ylera from Santa Clara. I'm a driver Alatter from Local 9144. Uh, being from the Bay Area, I would like All projects, big or small, to be union. Like this big investment project in Bountain View, local union members can work here and provide for their families. Apprentices can start a new career and new working environment where they can have a good pain salary. The developers are not investing in skilled labor, the unit members have, we can take on any test, finish on time, and everything can be done the right way. Another important thing that developers are not providing is healthier and good paying salaries for our community to keep affording living in the Bay Area. Working with union. Can have all the benefits toward insurance and future retirement. Thank you for your time.

[02:59:36] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. The next speaker is James Rodriguez.

[02:59:47] James Rodriguez: Good evening, mayor and council members. Thank you for the opportunity to speak tonight. My name is James Rodriguez, and I'm a journeyman carpenter with local 405 living and working here in Santa Clara County. I'm here tonight asking the council to deny the 505 Middlefield project. I started my carpenter career over 10 years ago as an apprentice and learn...

[03:00:13] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: James, you've muted yourself. I'm asking you to unmute.

[03:00:29] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: James, do you see? Button that says unmute.

[03:00:34] James Rodriguez: Livable wages, healthcare, and ship training opportunities to its workers. Without these standards, it becomes almost impossible for workers to continue to live in the communities they themselves are building. It's for these reasons, I ask that you deny this project today unless the developer were to agree to these standards. Thank you again for the opportunity to speak.

[03:00:53] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. Next speaker is April Webster.

[03:01:00] April Webster: Thank you, Mayor and Council. My name is April Webster. I've lived at 505 Cypress Point Drive just across the street from 55 Middlefield for 11 years. I would like to provide my strong support for the middlefield project, and would like to urge council to continue working towards developing more affordable and denser housing in Mountain View. With the goal of countering gentrification and increasing diversity and equity in our community. Many of the people who live in the service industry and our communities, the ones who keep our grocery stores and restaurants open, our gas stations running, our hospitals clean, the ones delivering our groceries and Amazon packages during the pandemic, so we don't have to put ourselves at risk, these members of our community keeper economy running, and they can't afford to live in Mountain View. I think it's critical that we provide more housing, affordable housing, so we don't end up displacing these important essential members of our community. I think continuing along the path, Ron, is untenable and unstainable, and everyone's quality of life will suffer. I also want to say that I truly appreciate the lengths Avalon has gone to in order to support multimodal transportation, creating green spaces, and addressing resident requests, and concerns. Um, And I just want to say thank you and I see my time.

[03:02:18] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. The next speaker is K. Howie.

[03:02:31] K. Howie: Hello, am I here?

[03:02:34] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Yes, we can hear you.

[03:02:35] K. Howie: Awesome. So, I've lived here for 6 years. In Mountain View at 555 West Middlefield. I'm also confused as to why this project would make life better for anyone in the surrounding. The fact that they actually did hallway run reviews. Like, they totally ripped apart our hallway. In December. And a time that no one would want that. You have multiple people that are coming into your apartment. But they decided to let us know we can't actually be in our apartment or have to vacate it at certain times. Eve's and Avalon Bay have never actually supported us in cutting down all these trees, when we have a huge amount of space behind us that's not being used, seems unrealistic. Because we have so much space that actually can be utilized for more than what it's being utilized for now because nothing's being utilized in the back. Parking lot. So, I don't know.

[03:03:48] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much for your comments. The next speaker is Chris Palomo.

[03:04:02] Chris Palomo: Oh, do you guys hear me?

[03:04:04] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Yes, we can.

[03:04:06] Chris Palomo: Okay. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen at the council. My name is Chris Palomo. I appreciate you allowing me to speech tonight on the Av Bay Housing Project. I'm asking the council to decline this project at 555 Middlefield. In the past, the developer has failed to require their contractors to pay the Carboner Area Center wages to benefit. I'm 27 years old, and I've been a union carpenter for 10 years, and those 10 years, I've been able to make a livable wage for the Bay Area, have benefits, and on the job training. Without the area centering wages and benefits, I would not be able to live here in the Bay Area, and for my family. I'm asking the council and staff, and the residents not to forget about the men and women in the construction that are building these projects. We all have a place to work, and a place to live. We should expect better in our great city, and show workers that they are priority, and that Mountain View has a higher standard by saying no to the Avalon Bay Project and the 555 Middle School Project. Again, thanks for your time.

[03:05:05] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. The next paying Lee.

[03:05:13] Pei Ying Lee: Hey, thanks, Mayor. Paying, um, speaking on behalf of the tree nonprofit canopy. We appreciate the attention to preserving as many healthy, mature, and heritage trees as possible. Trees are the nearby nature and all our neighborhoods that provide, and they provide numerous benefits. So please make sure that we can help, um, keep as many healthy trees and continuous canopy, especially along Highway 85 streets and future parks. So I want to highlight the recommendations from canopy and H.T. Harvey about planting native and site appropriate trees and plants, especially to enhance the habitat for residents and wildlife. To ensure the longevity and health of replacement planting and transplants, um, suggest to follow the city's tree tentacle manual. Next, um, very importantly, new and existing trees will need care throughout the construction period. Please consider requiring the developer to allocate a budget to hiring and experienced tree professionals to care for and monitor trees at the project site. Another consideration is requiring a tree bond to ensure that all protected, transplanted new trees are healthy and of five, 10 year period after project completion. With the mechanism in place, if identified trees are not present in healthy after the development, the funds from the bond would be forfeited. On a personal note, I think community trees and development projects are super crucial. I can imagine neighborhoods without them. Strategic placing and placement can provide shade, savings, and habitat for wildlife. So hopefully can prioritize urban forestry for all future development.

[03:06:48] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much for your comments. The next speaker is caller, uh, area code 510 ending 203.

[03:07:05] Michael Ocho: Hello?

[03:07:07] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: We could hear you.

[03:07:09] Michael Ocho: Hey, how's it going? My name is Michael Ocho, and I'm a carpal from local 405. I work in Santa Clara county area. I'd like to thank the council for the opportunity to speak on this project and I urge the council to deny this project. Joe and Avalon Bay have not reached out to the carpenter Norcal carpenters to have a discussion about having union carpentry on this project. Without having that, many residents from Mountain View will not have the opportunity, especially the younger ones, to start a career in the carpentry business. I mean, carpentry. I urge you guys to deny this project. Um, there's just, there's a lot of great things with housing, but there's not a lot of great things for the carpenters who are gonna be building this housing. Um, there will be there'll be no benefits for them. They're just, it's just not a good project for you guys. I hope you guys consider, take this into consideration and deny this project. Thank you.

[03:08:02] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. The next speaker is Alex.

[03:08:09] Alex: Hi, uh, hi mayor. Hi, council members. Thank you for the time and thank you for the late evening. I am a current, my name is Alex. I am a current resident at 555 West Middlefield. I am in opposition of this project. I have just the main reason is around the health and safety of it. We do have the environmental impact report. And I think, um, you know, the environmental and the health considerations were kind of brushed under the rug. Um, you know, we see that there's PM 2.5 levels that are, you know, high and significant and unavoidable. for the current 400 residents, including myself and my family. And, um, I have some, uh, concerns around the safety and the and the health impacts of that. I also see that there's cumulative cancer risk from, um, the particulates that we would be exposed to during the uh, 7 year construction of this project. So, um, I think, you know, given that we currently have single pane windows, like some of the other residents have been mentioning and that there's really no mitigation for that, um, I think that's going to be a significant impact to our health and, uh, to, to anyone who's living there right now. So I urge the council to reject the project, and thank you for the time.

[03:09:15] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. The next speaker also is Alex.

[03:09:25] Alex Gutierrez: Thank you very much. Would have guessed. Uh, so my name is Alex Gutierrez. I am a local resident who jogs by the proposed development at 555 West Middlefield just about every other day. I strongly urge the council to approve this project as soon as possible. It's sad that it takes 7 years to get direly needed housing approved here. And I further strongly urge counsel and staff to develop achievable objective standards that can allow similar developments, preferably even denser ones, to move forward significantly more quickly in the future. For those worried about trees being cut down at, to build parking, I encourage you to direct your objections at Mountain View's current parking minimum, not at this particular development, which is doing its best under the current rules.

[03:10:11] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. Thank you. The next speaker is Leona Chu.

[03:10:30] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Leona, are you able to unmute yourself?

[03:10:46] Leona Chu: Not we can proceed.

[03:10:48] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Oh, we can hear you.

[03:10:49] Leona Chu: Okay, can you hear me? Okay, thank you. I'm sorry I was away for a moment or two. I just want to say, I am very much for saving the trees. Um, we are very fortunate to have the tree buffer, to have the heritage trees, they absorb carbon dioxide. They release oxygen. And I very much feel it's gonna be very dangerous for us to have a lot of people living in block C. where most of the apartments will be built, where they will be close to highway 85 without a tree buffer. That highway generates a lot of greenhouse gas emissions. It also generates air, and tire dust toxins, the trees in the tree buffer, trap those toxins, and provide healthier air. So, save the trees as many as you can. And protect the resident's health. We're going to have a long construction period. We're going to have a significant level of 2.5 particulars. Please protect people against those unhealthy effects for a long time. Yes, do relocation and recognize, too, that you will have displacement of current residents. At Avalon and.

[03:12:23] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much for your comments, Fiona. The next speaker is caller area code 669 ending 450.

[03:12:44] Ferman Salcito: Hi, can you hear me?

[03:12:46] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Yes, we can.

[03:12:48] Ferman Salcito: Good evening, uh, Councilman. My name is Ferman Salcito, resident, or Santa Clara County, and I'm speaking on behalf of Carpenters, UE local 45 Are you represents 1000s of carpenters who live and work in San Mateo County, for big projects uh to run smoothly like this one, developers should be required to invest in skilled and trained construction workforce, committing to high labor standards and apprenticeship uh opportunities. The south they need uh more trained construction workers to meet the demand for new housing. Secondistry expansion and major public uh infrastructure projects that are in their pipeline. Uh state projects uh over the next decade are going to have to replace 10s of 1000s of skill workers, uh that are retiring and uh leaving the region, providing opportunities for young people in our community, to get on the drug training, is how we build the the workforce. Currently more than half of construction trades, also the San Mateo County qualify for affordable housing, apprenticeship training, is a proven way to boost US construction workers lifetime earnings and uh, this would also enable more, more of the workforce to remain in the region. Thank you so much for your time and have a wonderful night. God bless.

[03:14:08] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much for your comments. The next speaker is Simon Lee.

[03:14:16] Sameen Lee: Hi. Hello?

[03:14:25] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: We can hear you.

[03:14:26] Sameen Lee: Okay, my name is Sameen Lee. I am a resident at 94043 and I just want to voice that the, ask that the council members prioritize building affordable housing in a swift manner, ensuring that it's built in equitable and fair manner with fair sustainable wages. I know that I am a recent resident of the area. And as I'm thinking about where I want to live in the future, given the current situation, I know that myself and many of my coworkers are considering where to live and frankly, mountain view just doesn't look like it's a sustainable place to live for us. And I can't really live here in this area with my conscience knowing that people may not be able to afford affordable housing and it's not built in a way that is fair. And I ask that people have empathy for people. I appreciate the concern for trees. Um, however, I want people to tell us to remember the lives of people here and those who may want to serve families in the area. And um, thank you for the time.

[03:15:34] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you, Samine. The next speaker is Philip Fomer.

[03:15:42] Philip Strummer: Hello, I'm Philip Strummer, and I speak for just myself. Um, I live in the Cypress Point Woods community, which is right at the end of Cypress Point Drive. Um, which houses a wonderful camp of trees. Um, And I just think trees are fantastic. Um, You know, I like living new trees and um, I like living less when there are fewer trees. So, um, I think that canopy um, really is doing an excellent job, makes our city beautiful. And, um, increasing or reserving, um, our, um, forestation is, uh, going to be appreciated by future us and um, those of us who have children and grandchildren. Thank you.

[03:16:42] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. The next speaker is Eric Chan.

[03:16:51] Eric Chan: Hello, can you hear me?

[03:16:53] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Yes, we can.

[03:16:55] Eric Chan: Yeah. Hello, my name is Eric Chan, and I'm a resident of 555 West Millfield Road. I support the construction of new units generally, uh, but there are a few things I think should be reconsidered before going forward with the proposal. The park. My concern is how accessible it would be. For one, there's parking allocated for residents of 555 West Millfield Road. But what about visitors to the park? Where will they go? To, what is the likelihood that people using the park will be visiting from outside the property or area? If the park is meant for the city, I have a strong feeling that very few will go out of their way to visit and use this park. Besides the residents living on Cyprus Porn Drive. Perhaps we can rethink why we need such a big park in this area, and if we can place it somewhere else where it's more accessible for everyone. Entries, more specifically tree 179. What can I say? It's majestic, it's beautiful, and it's likely that it's well above 100 plus years old. I see it every time I walk by it on the way to the hot tub and back. It has to be one, if not, the biggest tree on the property. It takes up to three to four people to fully surround it with their arms stretched out, and you can really appreciate how big the tree is. I really hope you will consider saving it. If it does get saved, there will be a great story to tell. And if it doesn't, well, there would be another story to tell as well. That is all. Thank you for your time.

[03:18:22] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. The next speaker is Jane Winery.

[03:18:30] Jane Winery: Good evening, Mayor. Am I muted?

[03:18:42] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Not anymore.

[03:18:43] Jane Winery: Okay.

[03:18:43] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: We can hear you.

[03:18:44] Jane Winery: Oh, good. Well, good, good, um, good evening, uh, Mira Ramirez, and then Mountain View, uh, city council members. I live at Cypress Point Woods, and I have lived here for many, many years. Um, I just do not want the existing proposal. I feel that the building of so many units will cause too much pollution, which can cause respiratory issues to residents already living in the area. Too many heritage trees would be cut down, and the impact of traffic to Cypress Point Drive, which is a cul de sac, would just be a huge concern. So my, um, my vote is to not have the proposal go through. Thank you.

[03:19:29] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. The next speaker is Karen Fontana.

[03:19:47] Karen Fontana: Yes, hello. My name is Karen Fontana. I live at 505 Cypress Point Drive. Just across the street from 555 Middlefield for 18 years as a homeowner. I would like to express my strong support of the 555 West Middlefield project and would like to urge city council to continue working towards developing more affordable, and this type of housing in Mountain View. Thank you, city council. I see my time.

[03:20:18] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. The next speaker is Lily Kung.

[03:20:26] Lily Kung: Hi. Um. So I'm uh, my name is Lily. I'm a resident um, at 555 Middlefield. And so I would, I am sneaking out against the current proposal now. Um, I would advocate for working on the current buildings. In general, just seeing simply even the hallway renovation, where there were days they told us that we couldn't be there and our, or we couldn't access our door. Nothing happened the entire day. And then days when they didn't notify us, they blocked us from the hallway from even walking through. We had to basically hop the patio to get into our apartment. Um, and so, like, even small projects like that, they can't even handle well, and there's no communication. They don't really seem to care about us when we raise concerns. And they basically tell us we're lucky they didn't raise the rent on us. Um, and so, I think more thought needs to go into this proposal before it should be approved.

[03:21:30] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much for your time. The next speaker is Twyla Loft.

[03:21:42] Twyla Loft: I'm opposed to this. Um, uh, we, we live at Cypress Point Woods and have for many years. Um, and the tree canopy, if that's destroyed, the noise is already bad here, it would be just unbearable, if that were to be, uh, compromised in any, to any extent. Also, we have a two lane road that isn't even wide enough to have a stripe down the center of it. And people drive down the middle of the road to avoid people opening their car doors. They aren't even paying attention. And especially the five, five, five people, pull out of the driveways without looking. It's a dangerous road already, and to be putting all the extra burden of extra people and cars on it, even though you're saying people aren't gonna drive their cars they do anyway. So I'm opposed to this for those reasons.

[03:22:35] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you for your time. Very much. The next speaker is Shiley Bargov.

[03:22:47] Shiley Bargov: Hi, can you hear me?

[03:22:49] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Yes, we can.

[03:22:50] Shiley Bargov: Awesome. Thank you for taking my call today. Uh, so I would like to speak up against the project as it stands, um, right now. I'm also a resident at 505 Cypress Point Drive, which is just across the proposed project across the street from the proposed project. I have been in Mountain View since 1998. I am, I'm what I consider in the young professional category. Um, and, uh, you know, totally support having additional housing in Mountain View, but the analogy here is everybody wants, you know, renewable energy and, but nobody wants a nuclear plant in their backyard. Um, same situation here. We don't want the trees to be removed. We don't want the impact on the neighboring apartment complexes, where residents have been living for over 30 years. Um, in those establishments without having some sort of, um, Consideration for them as a, uh, construction is taking place. The trees as they stand really help appreciate the value of the condos, um, on Cypress Point, and not to mention, is just a very pleasant thing that I can share with my kids and being able to go on the trails, and appreciate that, um, just the serenity that comes with it. Um, so the fact that we are moving a lot of those trees and even if they are being, um, uh, going to be replanted, it will be a really long time before they actually take root. And if a certain...

[03:24:27] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much for your comments. I'm sorry, you've run past your time. The next speaker is Bill Walsh.

[03:24:36] Ben Walsh: Hello, can you hear me? Uh, my name is Ben Walsh, and I live at 339 Cypress Point Drive. I'm very concerned with this current proposal. It will have a very negative effect on our neighborhood. And Avalon, the developer, has made no significant effort to mitigate the core problems. The EPA report, the Sierra Club, and local residents all have suggested alternate proposals. The alternate proposal most often mentioned is the elimination of Black C. Eliminating Black C would mitigate many of the core problems. Box C is located close to 85. Among other things, eliminating Black Sea would save over 135 trees, and the natural barrier to the highway. With the number of housing units under construction or being planned in the city of Mountain View, eliminating Black Sea would have little or no effect on the overall number of units. Please vote now on this proposal. Ask for a better proposal. And from what I've heard tonight, I think you need to wait for some additional answers to some of your concerns.

[03:25:41] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. Thank you for your comments. The next speaker is Eli Robles.

[03:25:54] Eli Robles: Hello, I'm good to be Mr. Mayor and council members. My name is Eli Robles. I'm a local 9144 member and a lifelong resident of Santa Clara County. And although this project, Kit Park on Men, and takes into account many aspects, such as trees, parking, impact on residents and neighbors. As a union member, I would like the applicant to commit to union labor that promotes members that work in their own communities by providing a living wage, with health benefits, and apprenticeship standards, that allows them to live, work, and drive in the same areas that they build. Irish the council not to approve this project until they commit to working families of this community. Thank you.

[03:26:43] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. Next speaker is Dooley's.

[03:26:55] Dooley's: Hello, couldn't hear you?

[03:26:57] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Yes, we can.

[03:26:58] Dooley's: Okay, this is the Dooley's, um, We're 20, uh, 2 year residence, uh, of Mountain View, last seven, 8 years of, uh, right right here across the street from uh, block C of the current development. Um, we met with Joe, uh, Kershoffer on December 4th, and we, we has the mitigation efforts that were maybe Avalon Bay. Now, Joe was nice enough to meet with us, and, um, agreeing with David's points earlier. Uh, there's one thing that was short of forgotten about this, was the mitigation effort for the sound barrier. Um, Shepherd's Quint Woods, which is at the very end of the street, right across the street from the proposed, um, block C portion of the project. Um, uh, Babylon, they really never addressed a sound barrier between Highway 85, our 555 middle field, which greatly, greatly affects that complex as well as ours. So, um, the history of it real quick is that Cypress Point was built the wall, uh, in the '70s with the budget that they had, and although it was sufficient at the time, It no longer addresses it.

[03:28:28] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Please vote no. Thank you very much for your comments. The next speaker is Edie Keating.

[03:28:41] Edie Keating: Hello. Mountain View has many, many jobs. Since there is no plan to change that, the best response is to add housing. When you add housing, on average, you'll be reducing the number and length of commutes and environmental benefit. Land and the cost of land is a huge barrier. Infill housing is an opportunity, and I hope you say yes. I live quite close to Highway 85. And when I stand outside of where I live, uh, and when I chose where I live, I don't hear too much highway noise. When I walk to the back of my building, I hear a lot of highway 85 noise. And I probably would not have chosen one of those units. But I've talked to my neighbors, and they love the units they're in. The noise doesn't bother them, and they prefer them, and we're happy to have the unit they're in because of their view of the tree buffer, heading towards the highway. My point is not to say, Don't approve the project. I hope you do approve this project. My point is to say, people will work it out. Buildings themselves are sound buffers to other buildings, and people will choose to live here or not choose to live here. The developer thinks that they have a viable development that people will want to live in. I think this should go forward. We do need house.

[03:30:12] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. The next speaker is Ashley Davey.

[03:30:18] Ashley Davey: Hello, I'm Ashley, a resident of 555. I would like to state I'm against the proposal. I'm sure we all understand the need for development, but what at what cost? There has been absolutely no transparency, and honestly, I agree with the previous person that there has been a struggle with the current remodeling, and I don't think they're capable of moving forward with this construction. I moved to this beautiful community from North Idaho and obviously it's a vastly different environment. The trees, particularly the 12 redwoods and the huge 179 remind me of the pine trees back home. This is an amazing experience waking up in the morning and seeing a hummingbird outside my patio and being able to stroll through the community. This construction will totally demolish that, and I will no longer have those opportunities in the morning, and it'll just make me be miserable. So it's really good for the mental health, if not just myself, but many other community members. And many of the residents would also choose to keep the trees over adding more parking spaces. So I really think that you guys need to modify this before even agreeing to move forward with this proposal.

[03:31:15] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you so much. Vote no. Thank you very much. The next speaker is Alex Brown.

[03:31:38] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Alex, are you able to unmute yourself?

[03:31:41] Alex Brown: Can you hear me?

[03:31:43] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Yes, we can.

[03:31:44] Alex Brown: Okay. Uh, good evening. I support the project.

[03:31:46] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. Thank you very much. The next speaker is. She sure.

[03:32:00] Shashir: Hey, um, good evening. My name is Shashir. I'm a resident of 555 uh, West Meadowfield, um, and I am against the project. My reasons are mainly due to the massive amount of trees that are going to be cut down. Uh, I, I have read that there are 57 heritage trees and they are trying to move 39 of them, uh, even moving them or replacing them, uh, would take around 20 to 30 years for the trees, before they grow, and, um, there wouldn't be any, uh, red boats in Avalon. So, uh, I really appreciate uh, these trees and I would like to uh, preserve the uh, natural habitat. So I'm against the project and I would propose that they rethink and reconsider going forward with this.

[03:32:55] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. Thank you very much, Shashir. Next, uh, speaker is Dean Pierre Simons.

[03:33:09] Dean Pierre Simons: Hello, uh, I would just like to echo what everybody has said about the trees. I think especially there are some that are particularly, really big and old, and I think those are really worth trying to, you know, save as much as possible. And I think if I'm not wrong, if 179, which is like one of the biggest ones in the block and I, it would be really nice if somehow this project could still manage to keep some of these, um, you know, out there. And that's all I gotta say.

[03:33:41] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. Thank you very much for your comments. Um, any final speakers, please raise your hand. Being none, we will close public comment and return to the council. Uh, is the council comfortable with um, a 7 minute break? We'll reconvene at 1010. Is everyone okay with that? Temperature check? Looks like, yes? Okay. So we'll take a quick recess and uh return for deli- deliberation at 1010. Thank you.

[03:33:07] (archive recording) Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Okay, it is. So I will, uh, bring the meeting back to order. Um, so, we'll now turn to the council for, uh, any additional questions and for deliberation and, uh, emotion.

[03:41:28] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much to the members of the public who spoke um. I just have a couple of additional questions, but, um, all, I can, wait if other folks would like to ask any questions that have, um, that may have arisen after hearing the public comment. Any any member of the council like to ask any follow-up questions? Being none. So I'll, I'll just ask a quick few and then we'll, we'll go into deliberation. Um, so, uh, I thought there was a good question about what happens if a transplanted tree fails. Is there a mechanism to require a replacement? Is that is that already in the condition of approval?

[03:42:19] Unknown Speaker: Uh, yeah, so there are existing uh, condition with a bond requirement, which takes care of, uh, you know, maintenance of the existing trees during construction. Um, which can be then used for replacement as well in future.

[03:42:36] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Okay. Uh, and then there was a question about, uh, water contamination, uh, resulting from, uh, the construction of the, the underground parking. Um, I can't recall offhand if, if that was, uh, evaluated in the EIR, but the staff or the applicant has, um, any response to the concerns expressed about, uh, that potential impact.

[03:43:05] Unknown Speaker: Um, yeah, aspects related to that has been studied as part of the EIR, but not was not found to be a, um, significant impact.

[03:43:17] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Okay. Uh, and then the final question, just for for the council's benefit, um, there was a modification, I think, to my, was a recommendation 3 that it included, included an acknowledgment of the voluntary offers made by the applicant. Um, is there, uh, I guess, procedurally, if there are other, um, ideas that come up during the deliberation, we will also need to append those formally. Is that right or is it sufficient to just include generic language about, um, acknowledging and accepting any voluntary offers made by the applicant.

[03:43:58] Unknown Speaker: Mayor, if I may, um, answer that question, um, um, some of these can be conditions of approval. Others, um, you know, we would have to be voluntarily offered by the applicant. We're happy to, as they come up, let you know. Um, I think as long as we get the gist of the discussion and staff understands it. Uh, we can, we can uh, format uh, uh, either the acknowledgments and the conditions of approval or put them in the conditions of approval.

[03:44:30] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Okay, great. That's, that's very helpful. I will probably clean on stuff. for that assistance. Um, okay. Council member Lever.

[03:44:43] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Thank you mayor. Um, I just wanted to get really clear, um, from, uh, the applicant's perspective. Um, There was a lot of discussion coming from the public about, uh, whether or not they could get out, uh, getting out for medical reasons. Um, So under what conditions can someone break their lease and get out? Um,

[03:45:17] Unknown Speaker: So I'll take that, but Steph can chime in. So we've offered to, um, to waive, um, any cancellation fees for anyone who, who either, you know, signs a new lease or, um, or renews a lease prior to, um, the start of construction. Um, if construction starts and they want to break that lease, we'd cancel any, um, or waive any cancellation fees. Um, the the criteria about the medical condition was what we proposed, um, for our offer to relocate, uh, relocate residents to a different Avalon Bay property in the area.

[03:45:53] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Okay, but if someone just simply wants to get out, they'll be able to do that without penalty.

[03:45:59] Unknown Speaker: Correct.

[03:46:01] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Okay. And then, um, I was just wanted to know, um, during the, the process of putting together the project, was there a thought about increasing the, the density or the height of block B?

[03:46:22] Unknown Speaker: Um, Uh, I could take that. So we had never proposed that when we had looked at, um, you know, in response to the community questions about let's move the park over near Highway 85. Um, we had looked at what that would take to fit, you know, the same, uh, number of homes in that block B in that park or block A and park area. Um, and it was a much taller building. It was, you know, at least five, probably mostly 6 story building, um, that would have had to go there.

[03:46:54] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Okay. And in the changing iterations of the project, how many more trees have been saved along the buffer with 85, and what size box will replacement trees be?

[03:47:07] Unknown Speaker: So I'm gonna ask, um, Charlie Coke, if he's on, to come on. He can cite the tree numbers. Um... I don't know... if you can do that.

[03:47:26] Unknown Speaker: I was advised that it might take some time to bring somebody into the panel. Um, so, Diane, I said that you wanted me to help to if you wanted to.

[03:47:36] Unknown Speaker: Okay, well, there he is. There he is.

[03:47:39] Charlie Coke: Hi. So in recent revisions to that part of the design, we were able to save another 4 trees on the southern end of it. We were able to find ways to transplant an additional 4 trees that would have been just removed. And then at the north end of that area, our current plan includes a design to save one heritage coast live oak. There was an alternative that would have saved a few more trees surrounding it, but those trees were primarily invasive Brazilian pepper trees that were crowding out the heritage native tree. Um, so those were the recent revisions made to that area to save more trees.

[03:48:23] Unknown Speaker: And just to note on that last piece. This is, um, the top right corner, so the north northeast corner of the of the property. Um, we took those 2 designs to some community members, um, Green Spaces MV, um, took that back to their group and looked at it, and they agreed with our sort of initial thought, and the feedback from our arborist and our landscape architect, that, you know, we could keep all these trees, but it would be a better design and a better, um, you know, create a better habitat, um, for the native tree and the surrounding area, to, to just focus on keeping the one native coast live oak, and then surround it with new native plantings rather than try to keep exactly what's there today.

[03:49:02] Unknown Speaker: Okay. And I would just add to that answer regarding the size of the trees. Some of these trees are going to be that are proposed to be in there are going to be 36 inch box, whereas our typical requirement is only a 24 inch box.

[03:49:18] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Three. Okay. And one more question. Um, relative to the requests that were made by a number of um, members of the building trades. Um, my, uh, what I've taken from staff conversations over the PS2 days is that tonight we would not be able to include, uh, those types of requirements because we don't have an ordinance in place. Is that correct?

[03:49:50] Unknown Speaker: Yes, and I believe that's on the work plan and there's also an issue of whether it applies to private development versus development involving public money or public land.

[03:50:01] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Okay. Okay, thank you.

[03:50:06] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. Council member Metachek.

[03:50:09] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Thanks. I was going to go into comments if you're ready for that. Thanks. Um. You know, this has, uh, come to the council before this project and I have, um, certainly shared my concerns when we've discussed this before. Um, one of my biggest concerns is that um, this is not a change area. When we did the general plan, when that was adopted, it was adopted after a great deal of public input. And we determined where the change in the city was going to happen. and where it was not going to happen. And uh, This is an area where change was not going to happen. And so I really don't think it was appropriate to let this project through the gatekeeper process. Um, because of that. I feel like the general plan is sort of a contract with our residents. And to change that, um, just doesn't sit well with me. Um, I also have expressed my concern about the number of trees that have been proposed to be removed. And I will acknowledge that the number is lower than it was originally, uh, and I appreciate the efforts to save more of the trees. Um, it still is a lot of trees. And we already have quite a few projects, um, in areas of the city where a lot of tree removal will happen. And we just can't continue to remove trees and not have an impact, negative impact on the environment, as well as the quality of life for our residents. And to remove tree 179, um, would just really be heartbreaking. Uh, for me. We've seen pictures of it. We see how stately it is. And, you know, at some point, we just have to say no to all of the requests to remove trees. Um, council member Kame brought up the fact that we have talked about doing a precise plan for this area. And it would be better if we looked at, um, development proposals after we have a plan for this area. Um, but we don't have that yet. Um, but I guess what's really, Concerning for me is the new information that has come out, um, based upon the EIR, uh, we haven't discussed that before. Um, I watched the EPC meeting where they discussed this project and when they were talking about the EIR, um, it certainly caught my attention, and I've spent quite a bit of time with that EIR. And, um, I do have concerns about the potential health impacts on people who live at 555 West Middlefield. Um, as well as the people who live nearby, um, such as right across the street. Um, it will, um, have a major impact on the, the construction period, will have a major impact on the way that everyone lives for a very long period of time. And while the, it might have an impact, you know, in, um, bursts, you might say, and then you might have a period where it doesn't. Um, it's still a very long period of time for people to uh, alter their lives to accommodate this construction. Um, I think, you know, during sometimes it will be people will have their windows closed from, uh, 6 o'clock in the morning to 7 p.m. at night. And for some, um, that's a real problem if they don't have air conditioner or they don't want to run it. That long. And for some people, they might have the air filters, but there are no mitigations being proposed for the folks who live across the street in terms of air filters for them. And, you know, during the summer months, I'm not sure you really want to stay in your home with all of the windows closed. Basically all day. Um, that is a major change to your quality of life. Um, and we've certainly heard from many residents, um, who, uh, live at the project, but also across the street, as well as, you know, we've received emails from others throughout the city, and, Um, there's a lot of opposition to this project from residents within the city. You know, yes, we've heard from some who support it and we always hear from the advocacy groups that want more housing, that they support it. Um, but it's really important to me to listen to the residents, especially the ones that will be impacted for such a long period of time. Um, I also want to make a couple comments about um, some of the items that folks have brought up. Uh, a few have been critical of the length of time that uh, this application has been in process. And Applications do go much faster when you're not asking for a change to the rules. And when you're asking for a change to the zoning. Um, It does take much longer. So if you look at other parts of town where, um, the city changed the rules when we updated the general plan and did precise plans, things do go much faster. It's when you are asking for an exception, that it takes much longer. Um, and I've heard quite a few people say that there is not going to be displacement and how great that will be. And I actually think there's going to be quite a bit of displacement. I think a lot of people, whether they know it or not, um, they might think they're gonna be able to live there, uh, the entire time. But they might change their mind part way through. Um, and some will not want to live there right from the start. And, you know, these are rent controlled units where a lot of our lower income residents are. And that's really concerning to me because I do believe, well, this is a different form of displacement. I think we will have a lot of displacement at this site. Um, so, as I said earlier, you know, I'm very concerned about um, the potential health impacts. And I don't think I can support a statement of overriding considerations when it comes to health. Um, we don't really know um, The magnitude of the impact. Um, and that's concerning to me. Uh, and so I feel like without knowing that and knowing what we know tonight, it seems like there is, um, the potential for health impacts, and there certainly is the potential for, um, a negative impact on the quality of life for those who live there and those who live around there. Um, and also um, This, again, this is not an area where we said um, we were going to have change. So, um, I really struggle to support this. Thanks.

[03:58:13] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. Bye, Mayor Hicks.

[03:58:17] Vice Mayor Alison Hicks: Well, I just wanted to say, council member Abbe Koga had her hand out before me and it dropped out. Did you want to speak, or are you fine going after me? You fine.

[03:58:26] Vice Mayor Alison Hicks: Okay. Um, so, I wanted to say that, um, well, Well, first, I want to thank staff for, um, putting the time in on such a complicated and multi layered, uh, project that, you know, certainly, uh, will never make everyone happy. I'm sure everyone hasn't been happy as you've spoken to them through this process. Um, and then, I wanted to say, one of the residents brought up that, um, it would have been better if we had achievable objective standards from the beginning, and I certainly think that's one of the things that stands out to me, that, um, I think if we had had some of the standards that counsel and residents are now talking about regarding, um, tree canopy, and had established that very firmly from the beginning, we wouldn't be encountering a lot of the problems that we're talking about tonight, I think that we could certainly, we could develop this project. You know, I think in many ways, it's a very good project in a good place, and certainly, I support building on surface parking lots. So that's all good. I think that we could do exactly this and save, particularly, the growth of large redwoods, that many of the resumes have spoken about, the tree number 179 and so forth. If we'd had those objective standards from the beginning, and I want to make sure that we don't go into future projects without having those kinds of standards regarding trees. Um, and some other things as well. As for this, as for this project, I had hoped that if we went to unbundled parking, that we could, I, as far as I know when one establishes unbundled parking, one also reduces the parking a certain amount, that's the entire reason for it, that you find that some people will opt not to have parking places. So I'd hoped that if we established unbundled parking, that we could then cut the parking five, 10%, and replan it, and that we would be able to save some of the trees that people most want to save. I'm still open to that. Staff has certainly said that that's not, would not be easy, so I don't know what appetite there is for that among council. I'm still willing to look that, look into that in some way. Um, condition, the project to have, um, some kind of rethinking and replanning of the parking. And then lastly, I'll say that, um, canopy, the nonprofit canopy had also said that we should budget for an experienced tree expert to make sure that the trees survive, the trees that are being transplanted, survive, um, I think the developers already agreed to that. You can correct me if I'm wrong. Um, okay, yeah. Has agreed to that. Um, but I would also like that person to, um, to look and see if there are any other trees that could be saved, uh, particularly along the buffer or around the area that will start out as a staging area and later, um, become a park. I've heard people say they want to, they, um, want mature trees in the park, and that if there are any, that there are some that are tagged for loss that maybe could be saved. Um, and also, I've heard discussion along about along the buffer between the apartments in '85, some people saying, increase the size of the trees that are planted to 50 or 90 gallons, I also have heard from other people that that is not always appropriate, and the best choice. So, I'm hoping that that can be reviewed by the experienced tree expert that, uh, canopy has suggested be hired. But I would like to hear from council people if there is any appetite for rethinking the parking and saving, um, saving, uh, some of the additional trees that residents have wanted saved.

[04:02:44] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. Thank you. Council member Abi Toga.

[04:02:50] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: Thank you, Mayor, and, um, thank you to staff for all of your hard work, and, um, also appreciate the developer for, um, working on the project and making revisions. Um, I will, I want to acknowledge that um, quite a bit of improvement has been made since the last time we saw this project. So, um, you know, I, I, you know, thank you for that, for that. Um, I will start off. Well, I guess I'll just start off in response to the vice mayor's comments. Um, I am open to looking at the parking issue and um, seeing if there's something we can do to save more trees. So, um, I, you know, initially wasn't thinking that way because I thought the neighborhood would not want us to do that, but, um, in listening to the neighbors and also just seeing that the projects in that area, um, starting with, um, you know, even Madeira, and I think 100 Moffatt, um, that we're seeing that there are less, um, cars in the parking garages. I think there is a possibility of reducing or unbundling and reducing parking spaces, given what we're, you know, actually seeing in real life with these new projects that have gone up in the area near the transit center. So, um, So, this is, um, you know, a difficult one for me. Um, I agree with a council member, Medachek, and I've said this time and time again. Um, you know, there's a reason, and having, I've been on for a while now and having gone through the general plan and, and, and the precise plans, um, and that whole process. I really believe that, um, you know, it's important to plan and have community involvement in that. And then to stick to that plan. So, you know, I've said it. I'm not a big fan of gatekeeper projects and, um, you know, I actually have been thinking about this and I, I, I think maybe it's actually a size issue. So perhaps smaller parcels could be, you know, get come through through gatekeeper, and I know we even, you know, waive the, um, gatekeeper processor projects below 2 acres, but I think when we get to parcels that are, you know, I, you know, I'll just say like 5 acres or more, and the unit counts we're looking at become in the 100s of units. It really starts to bring up impacts. And, and that's why we need to have precise plans or, or, you know, um, yeah, precise plans, master plans could work. Um, Vice Mayor talked about standards. The precise plans are where the standards live. And we don't have that here. And that's the real problem. So, um, you know, we don't have, we didn't have any expectations as to what would, could be built here. Um, it's, and, you know, it's kind of like we leave it up to the developer to figure that out, and then we go with it or not. And usually we end up ended up going with it. But, I think as I've, you know, been on the council for a while, and, um, you know, I will say that this council is not a Nimby council. I want to remind folks that we have 7500 units in the pipeline plus the, you know, 15,000 we've sewn for. And I'm so happy that we had that grand jury report to kind of validate what we've been doing. Um, so, you know, get in light of that. Like we will continue, I think, to see more housing projects. And, um, we'll continue to prove them or them. But I think it's important now to be even more, um, mindful of fit, neighborhood fit, making sure these projects, um, fit well, and we can be a little bit pickier. is what I think. We need to have higher quality high quality projects. So, you know, I guess I'm not feeling this, urgent. I mean, I understand, yes, we have a housing crisis, but, you know, it's not all on us and we're doing a lot. We're frankly doing the most in this county, so I think, you know, it's important for us to look at the other elements of housing, you know, neighborhoods, impacts, um, quality of life. We talk about. And I also feel it's really important that, you know, and having lived here and having lived through a lot of construction, myself. I've learned, I've come to appreciate, um, you know, for ex, like there has to be a benefit for everyone, including existing residents. And so I weigh the costs and benefits of this project. Um, and that's where I struggle because, and I, I know that I, I have a unique position because I, I am on the Bay Area in her quality management district, and, um, So I, this is really hard for me to consider a statement of overriding considerations based on air quality. Um, I've been, it's just my 5th year on Bakmed. And, um, we have been talking about PM 2.5 ever since I joined the, the, the, the board. And, um, frankly, you know, and I've learned a lot about this. You know, I always thought we had clean air in the South Bay, and I think we do relative to other parts of the Bay Area, but I've also learned that given, you know, where we are, the weather patterns, we actually have a, you know, high concentration of pollution here. Um, and, and, um, I think what's really on my mind is that we have an advisory council at the, at the air district of experts, public health, physicians, and in 2020 at the end of 2020. They came out with a report on particulate matter. And the, um, conclusions they came up with were, um, that, uh, PM is the biggest driver of both, um, impact in in the Bay Area. Um, that, uh, the current PM standards that the Bachmed puts out, the what's in the EIR are actually not health protective, and that more stringent standards are urgently needed to save lives in the U.S. in the Bay Area. Um, and they say, you know, there's no known threshold, threshold for harmful PM 2.5 health effects, but because of that, they suggest we reduce um, PM to provide more public health benefits. And so, um, you know, they they, they are, we've been cracking down, frankly, um, focusing mostly on the refineries on the East Bay. Um, but frankly, you know, it's everywhere. And so as a member of this board, it's like, I just can't, in good conscience, vote to support a statement of overwriting considerations. And I've told, you know, I've told our staff this that this is gonna be an issue, a problem moving forward, if, you know, as we used, I think it was in the question, the answers from staff. Um, you know, this is gonna be an impact and a known impact as we move forward with more development. And so we're going to have to figure that out. But, um, you know, health, to me, you all, I know you know, is is top priority, being a, um, you know, breast cancer survivor. I just cannot put people. I just can't consciously put people at risk. Um, you know, I've shared my experience of living through 4 years of construction on my corner here right across the street from me. And it was frankly miserable. And it was the dust and, you know, the the, the, the construction and the, the noise, actually, the noise is unbearable. And, you know, they say we start at 7 AM, but they were starting at 6.30 and it's just a lot, frankly, for, you know, for the tenants or the residents to have to be on top of that day after day. Um, so, you know, 7 years to me, and I mean, I've seen 5 to 7. So I don't know exactly how long this will take, but usually they it even takes longer than an estimate. I just think it's a long, it's way too long. Um, so in light of all that, you know, I think that we could see a project on this site. Um, Probably lower density, just or less units, just to, um, you know, shorten the construction time, deal with all of the other issues that have been brought up, whether it's, um, preserving more trees, you know, um, unbundling parking, you know, and I'll say, um, I guess I'm a, you know, it's the way it goes, I know, but I, when I met with the developer 6 years ago, you know, having seen these types of developments, My suggestion was put the density on the middle field side and make it, you know, less dense and lower on the side that matches up with existing residents. And um, that didn't happen. And, I mean, there's actually a lot of things that have been changed, but a lot of things that just didn't happen, but I think would have made this a better project. And in hindsight, frankly, you know, I know it's challenging to do infill, but perhaps it would have been better to, um, just completely redevelop. I appreciate folks don't want to displace folks, but I agree with, um, I think it was council member Mattachek comments. I mean, having lived through construction for that long. I just don't know how many of these residents are going to want to stay for very long. And if they want to leave, you know, at least if it was with relocation packages, they would have had something and what this, this rent, you know, they're not going to really get, they're not going to get relocation or Trao. So, It might have been better that way. Um, if they just relocated. And I look at the AMIs and, you know, frankly, 20% or under 60%, so the, you know, the low income categories that we target. And then the other set almost 80% are above that. So these are not low, a lot of there aren't a whole lot of low income folks. And I look at that and I think about the equity issue there. Had they all been able to relocate with relocation package, then the lower income folks maybe could, you know, find somewhere else to go. But at this, with this situation, they may have to stay on the site in these pretty unbearable construction conditions, because they can't afford to relocate. And I just think, you know, I look at it from that lens, that, that perspective, and the equity lens there. So, um, you know, I, I've supported a lot of infill projects. I was thinking, Paulson plays the fully of, and the other one on, see, Shorebreeze, I think it is. They've done a good job of doing infill, you know, using unutilized space to build more units and they've done it successfully. I think it can happen. But, um, this one is just, um, there's just, yeah, I weigh the costs and the benefits. And I think the costs are outweighing the benefits. And for me, number one, you know, I will not be able to vote for the statement of overwriting considerations because of the air quality issues. Um, someone said, so I saw an email saying, well, you know, I've lived through my neighbor's remodeling. Um, it's a big difference from one single family home or a, you know, one home versus like a multifamily development. And I know for firsthand. So, I just don't think this is gonna be beneficial to the existing residents. And, you know, 323 units. Sure, that's a lot, but You know, we approved 750, but I remember 750 units. I think it was 2 days ago, um, within 3 weeks, and we have another project later on today. Um, so, you know, it's not like we're short on housing projects and we've approved quite a few and, you know, I'll continue to approve many more. or vote for many more as I've done in my past. But I just think we need to be more mindful of making sure it fits and it's beneficial for everyone. Thank you.

[04:16:23] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. Council member show, Walter.

[04:16:29] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Hi. Well, um, as most of you know, I'm an environmental engineer by, um, by training and career. I've specialized in water resources, but, um, I've, uh, you know, been working on sequel documents for, uh, my whole career. And obviously, having one come forward that says there's a statement of overriding considerations that's needed really gets my attention. Uh, I don't think there's really much more... I cant think of a single thing that would maybe get my attention more. But that said, I, um, I dug in, and I looked into what's behind that statement of overriding considerations. And it's true that, um, PM, uh, the particulate matter, 2.5, is, um, is the, is the one criteria that, uh, doesn't get completely, um, mitigated that there's still some significant pollution from. Now, one of the reasons why this is the case is because of the background number. The background number is supposed to be just sort of what's out there, you know, all the time. The background number, um, varies from uh, about 0.7 to 0.8 in our area. And the requirement is 0.8. So that means if there's any additional pollution by the, um, uh, you know, by the, uh, uh, the project, it's, it's, it's going to have to have a statement of overriding considerations. We're going forward, this is going to be what happens on a regular basis. And I think, um, there are a couple things that made me feel a little better about it. As council member Abby Kogan mentioned, we do have some air pollution problems in the South Bay, and typically, they get worse as you go further south. The station that they use for these background numbers is about 10 miles south of here at Jackson Street and San Jose. So it's a reasonable expectation that, in truth, what we have here is slightly better. But we don't really have that information. They have these monitoring stations around the Bay Area, not that many of them that go all the time. And so to have a really good data set. You know, you have to use their monitoring stations. And there just isn't one that's closer than that to us. So that's one way that these numbers are very conservative. I think another way that these, um, that I find, uh, these numbers are conservative, is when you look at the, um, uh, the activities that are gonna take place, that are gonna cause this pollution. The activities are gonna be earth moving, and also the use of a lot of equipment, a lot of the construction equipment. At least, that's my understanding. Now, I hope the staff will jump in if I get this wrong. And, um, we know that the Earth moving is going to be a big deal during short burst. That was a good description, um, council member, Mattachek, of how it is. It's bursts. It's not a continuous thing. It will go, there may be a couple of weeks at a time, where there are these activities, but they will not go on for, you know, for years at a time. So, I think that when we think about when these exceedences are going to happen, based on this project, um, they're, you know, they're gonna be intermittent. And, um, it does dissipate quite quickly, that's what, um, we've gotten back from the air quality experts, is that after about an hour of the, uh, activity season, that means the day's over, the day's construction is over. Those levels drop considerably. That's good. That's a great thing. So it means that, um, even on a bad day. You should be able to open your windows, um, by, and, and you're next to the, where they're, they're, um, they're doing this active. You should be able to open your windows by, um, by 7:00, and you should be able to keep them open until 7:00 in the morning, if that's what you want to do. The other thing I think is important is the utilization of these air filters. Maybe we should all be buying them, because the background levels here are not good. And, um, they can reduce the particulant matter in our homes dramatically. And that's a good thing. And it's something that, um, we can take care of. And I think that that's what's really important when we consider, you know, going forward with this kind of thing is, what can we take care of? What can we, you know, put in place so that the situation works properly? And, um, there are measures, a lot of watering down dusty, um, construction sites and air filters and using, um, uh, newer engines that have much cleaner exhaust. You know, these are things that are part and parcel of how construction is gonna go forward in the near future. And that's great. That's good. That protects people, and that's what we should be doing. But I think, um, so that's how I feel about the, um, about the statement of overriding considerations. I've given them a lot of thought, and I am willing to support it, because I see this as always a balancing act. Sequa, the California Environmental Quality Act is designed to be a disclosure document. What it does is it tells us what the project, what are the possible environmental impacts, and with that knowledge, we should be able to, um, either design around, you know, design them out, uh, or, um, figure out how to mitigate them. And we should go forward, you know, knowing what we're getting into. And that's what is designed to do. But one of the things that it doesn't do, and the national environmental NIPA, the National Environmental Quality Act does, is talks about, you know, what the projects do that are good. So I think that, um, whenever you make an environmental decision, it's really, really important to think about the balance. What's the good stuff and what's the bad stuff? Well, we've heard, you know, loud and clear that the bad stuff is the PM, uh, 2.5, the particular matter, and that the good stuff, and the other bad stuff is the removal of trees, although everyone seems to recognize that reducing the number of trees, and increasing the number that is transplanted, is, you know, really important. Also, making the change so that they're natives. I think that's really important. We know as the climate changes, those trees that we plant that are natives now are gonna be happy about 10, 20 years from now. Whereas, um, some of these redwoods, which are not native here, are going to be less and less happy. But I want to, I do want to talk about what are some of the positive things about this. And we heard, um, many people testify about them, but I think it's really important to bring it back. Um, one of them is, um, uh, a lot of units. Over 300 units. That's a lot of units. It's a lot of families that have a place to stay that wouldn't otherwise or would have to commute a long way. Um, we have 400 rent control units protected. Um, I know when I was on the council before, I listened to months and months and months of people testify about the heartbreak of being displaced. And this project doesn't displace anyone, um, unless they decide themselves they want to move. It's only voluntary displacement. That's just really different. from knocking their house down, or throwing them out, because, you know, the rents go up precipitously. The rents are gonna stay at a level that is affordable. That's just really vitally important. The other thing I think that's just fabulous about this is, this has inclusionary affordable housing on it, 48 units. Yes, you know, there are a lot of, um, there are affordable housing, um, standalone units we built before, the projects that weren't that big. by themselves. So, I think that's really important. And as a park, everybody in Mountain View loves park. We know parks, we know how important they are to the social focuses of the community. And, um, then another thing I think that, that is really, really important on the long term environmental balance sheet is, um, how do we change our per capita, greenhouse gas emissions, and energy use over time? And this project moves us in the right direction. We reduce the per capita greenhouse gas emissions because this is a very well transit oriented development. It's very walkable. It's very bikable. It's near public transit. It's just less than a half a mile to the Caltrain station. And we know that the connection between that station and this area is going to get a lot better in the next 10 years, because we're gonna have that underpass, um, under Central Expressway, so people will be able to walk and bike under that. That's gonna make it just so much more comfortable for the people who live in this location to get to the transit area and get to downtown. This is gonna be get to be... This is a desirable place to live now. It's going to be much more desirable after that happens. And then the other thing is that water use. We are worried about water use moving forward, and, um, people who live in modern buildings, and particularly, uh, people who live in multifamily buildings, use, um, less than half the water that people who live in single family homes use. And that's really important for going forward. So, for all of these reasons, it's always a balancing act. But I think the balance is to go forward with it. So I'll be, you know, interested to hear the rest of the council's, um, feelings.

[04:27:51] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. Council member Kame.

[04:27:54] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Great. Thanks so much, Mayor. Um, so, uh, I get to be, uh, I guess, a new voice to this project for the whole duration. I've lived across the street and I haven't been able to participate in this conversation at all. So I'm actually, um, coming to this project, though I've been following it, um, a new, a new voice to it. So for me, even though it's in its final stages, I suppose, um, it's my 1st opportunity to voice my, my thoughts. And so hopefully my colleagues will humor me and allowing me, um, somebody who is, you know, just adjacent to the property to share some of my thoughts. Um, I do want to thank staff and the applicant and the residents for sticking in with us. I know we're getting close to 11 p.m. and we have many more items to go tonight. Um, so I just want to thank all of them. Um, and so I thought what might be helpful is just kind of, um, the viewpoint that I'm trying to bring to this project, um, which is, um, you know, one of our council goals is being a community for all and providing a high quality of life for all residents. So I'm thinking about the residents who live there now currently, as well as the future residents. So I thought what might be helpful is talking about the things that I feel positively about the project. Um first. So I do think that as an info development project, the facing, um, makes sense to me. I'm excited about the bike, pedestrian infrastructure and along Moffat and the multimodal character that I know the developer is working on with the city. You know, we talk about how, uh, walkable or bikeable this is to transit, a part of it is creating the accessibility for users. And as somebody who has almost been hit multiple times at Cypress Point at Moffitt. Um, you know, I really feel like the infrastructure here with a dedicated bike lane and the carb out for the VTA bus lane and the removal of parking there will be really helpful in making it a more walkable and bikeable experience or pleasant experience um, for those who are trying to walk and bike. Um, I do support the creation of a new city park, right? Something that we've been talking about a lot, um, on my time on council. Um, you know, supportive of that. I do appreciate the transit demand, um, kind of provisions that the applicants putting forward and the conversation about how to make sure people can can go without a vehicle. Um, and the items listed in terms of, um, relocation, assistance, um, as well as, you know, being able to wave a fee if people move out, um, revised communication plan so that everybody knows what's going on. And I think for this project, we also did a 1000 foot radius, or a 1000 foot, um, notification radius so that everybody in the surrounding area could also know about what's going on with the project, and I hope that we can continue that. Um, And I do support the unbundling of parking and that the new development will have, um, lead gold, uh, standards. But when we talk about gatekeepers, gatekeepers also are expected to go above and beyond. So while I, you know, applaud the developer for all these efforts to me as a gatekeeper project, this should be expected. Um, and it should be something that we work in tandem with residents about. Um, so, uh, some of the challenges that I'm seeing, um, for myself is, you know, it's been discussed, the length of the, of the construction is, is lengthy, and I think, um, my hope would have been being able to have renovated the existing units in anticipation of the construction, um, rather than having to do that at a later point. Um, I think that some of the issues that are being brought up by the residents in terms of the single painted windows and the filtration, um, could have been, um, addressed prior to, um, you know, this going forward and it sounds like it may be happening in tandem or, you know, um, after maybe even after construction. And so, I would have hoped that that would have been something that was addressed. Um, The, you know, the loss of, of our, our canopy, our, our, our canopy is something that, um, we've been talking about, particularly in the, in the pandemic. People have been reaching out to council, forming new community groups based solely on the fact that they want more open space, they want more park space, they want green spaces, you know, green spaces, mountain view was created in the pandemic. And so, while some people will say they're just trees. It, it, to me, it's a quality of life issue and it is about, um, create, even though we live in a city making sure that we kind of create these oasis seas of, um, respite for people, especially as we're having to all work from home, right? Um, as as the pandemic continues on. So, um, you know, I, many people have already talked about the, the health concerns and being weary of approving the statement of overriding consideration. Um, I, I, I to share those, those concerns, and I think the, while we've had much discussion about it. Um, It still leaves me a bit uneasy. Um, for for our existing residents. But, you know, I think, I, I do, I would be interested in a path forward if there could be some changes and I think Vice Mayor Hicks brought up one, which is a reduction of the parking to save more of the trees. You know, I would be interested in that. I do appreciate that. You know, we're parked to our model parking standard. But I don't, I think part of the pandemic too has been people not using their vehicles as much, people walking and biking more. Um, so I don't feel as tied to a model parking standard and and in lieu of that, being able to preserve some some treason and open space in that community. I think would be a trade-off that it sounds like residents would be interested in. Um, and so I'd love to kind of maybe, um, pull, pull back the thread on that conversation if possible. Um, and while some people may feel that this is, uh, been a long conversation, um, I appreciate that both staff and the applicant are trying to get it right for the community. And I think that that is really what's important. And, you know, as someone who hasn't been able to talk about this for the 7 years and is coming into this new, you know, I want to get it right for our community too. Um, like I said, those who live there now and those who live there in the future. And while there might be natural attrition as people, you know, come and go, these are rent control units. So my thought is, you know, if you're able to be able to stay in your rent controlled unit, you would want to do that for as long as possible given the high cost of living in the area. And while there are going to be 48 new affordable housing units, I want to be able to preserve all of those who are living in the rent controlled units, as well as creating new affordable housing opportunities, because to me, it's kind of about the whole menu of housing options. Um, you know, uh, Because it's, it is difficult to live anywhere in the Bay, Bay Area. So, um, Those are, those are some of my thoughts. I'd be interested to see if there's any points where we could have further discussion for, um, you know, maybe some, some ways to improve it, and that's just me because, like I said, I haven't had the opportunity to talk about it. So, I think it's the project feels close. Um, but, uh, there are a few more tweaks that I would like to see and and one of them, uh, was brought up by the vice mayor and I think that there could be a few others. So interested to hear what colleagues have to say. Thanks.

[04:36:34] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. Council member Liever.

[04:36:38] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Thank you, mayor. Well, obviously this is a very frustrating and difficult decision. Um, because the applicant has done a number of things that are what we say that we want. Um, we know that, um, for the environment, and for the community, uh, we need infill development, we need more affordable housing units, uh, to be here, to to meet our workforce needs. Um, in terms of the the 7 years, um, process of construction. I think that anytime you're trying to stage construction around, um, around housing that people are staying in, it is by nature going to take a lot longer. If everyone had to leave the site. I think that they could bang it out, uh, fairly fast, but, um, when you talk about the complexities of having various trades there to do various stages of construction and trying to restrict activities to certain areas for certain periods of time, it's just going to take a really long time. And I wish that we had a magic bond where we could say that this won't impact people. But I think it is gonna be very, very difficult for people to live on that site, uh, throughout this process. Um, and, uh, I, I think that the renovation of the hallways doesn't, doesn't bode well for an enormous construction project, but I recognize it's completely different people than completely different objectives, um, doing it. Um, I think, unfortunately, and this is the sad case for something like two thirds of our population in Mountain View is that when you own the property, you have the opportunity to call more shots, then if you're a renter. And um, I would not want to see the massive displacement that this would cause and, um, so I'm, I'm weighing that against, uh, what I think will be significant impacts for people, um, you know, 6.30 p.m. stock time. Uh, means that your kids can't be outside, uh, for a lot of the time, because for small children, that's, that's pretty much the wind down time, and, and it gets dark out throughout a lot of the year at 6 o'clock. Um, so those are some of the things that I'm, I'm weighing, but, I'm looking at also if, if we don't want to have housing and development in commercial, uh, spill out into the green belt areas, if we don't want it in Coyote Valley, we don't want to build out the whole Central Valley, if we don't want it in the coastal zone, Then where are we going to put it? And, um, it is already difficult for our residents, our community members, to have the workforce that they need to support them. Uh, workers who do elder care, childcare, veterinary, groceries. Uh, every single thing. Um, it has already become very difficult. So, we are a council that has approved a lot of housing. I don't think we have a, a NIMB bone in any of our bodies here. Um, But uh, this is an option that is open to us. that, while difficult and uncomfortable, and I think it's gonna, uh, have residents coming back to us throughout those seven years. Um, it's something that is there to increase the supply of housing, um, in an area where, where we need workers, where we have transportation, where there's infrastructure, where it's walkable, where it's near a train. Um, so that's the balance that I'm looking at.

[04:41:27] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you, council member. Take a quick turn and then we'll go back for a 2nd round of questions and comments. Um, I did want to start with a couple of questions, though, for a step, and perhaps the applicant, uh, since several members of the council brought it up. Um, what discretion does the council have to modify, uh, parking standards, especially in this context? We're not talking about, um, you know, developing a new precise plan or, um, you know, modifying an existing zoning district. This is, with project approval. Uh, can staff provide some insight into what, to what extent we can address some of the parking concerns that have been, um, discussed?

[04:42:17] Unknown Speaker: Mayor, I'll take a shot at responding. The council does have the ability to reduce parking standards. In fact, the model parking standard itself is a reduction of our parking standards. Uh, what we think, and this is something that I might need to just talk to staff very quickly and maybe respond a few minutes later, is, um, you know, in our response, we had said that we would probably need to take another look at our transportation analysis and just make sure that, um, you know, all all aspects of this parking reduction are covered. Um, and so that's the only outstanding item.

[04:43:00] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: And I guess one of the things I would be a little concerned about is just arbitrarily selecting a a different parking ratio. So if if the council did want to proceed with this concept, Um can staff provide some guidance on how we might decide what the parking provided should be. Um, I think since the question was asked, uh, this, this, this morning, um, um, we have not been able to, um, have the time to do the analysis, say, it should be this or that.

[04:43:40] Unknown Speaker: Um, I think if it if it basically stems from saving a tree, then we, we would normally back into, this is how many spaces would be lost. And so, I'm trying to, I'm struggling with trying to answer that question. Um, because I don't think we today have the answer for you, if you had to ask us. How many spaces can staff support? Um, how many? Yeah. Um, but but we, you know, we haven't, uh, I, and again, you might want to also check with the applicant, um, because, um, the, the number was provided by them. Um, staff didn't have the ability to go and calculate the space is lost. Um, so, in balance, I would say if if the council wanted to go in that direction. We would need a little time.

[04:44:38] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Okay, I did have related questions for the applicant. So, um, another way to, we could certainly consider a reduced parking ratio, um, but there are other, um, tools available to developers to, that could physically reduce the footprint of a, uh, structure, so, stackers and things of that nature. Um, Have you considered those types of approaches, is there a constraint that we should be aware of?

[04:45:12] Unknown Speaker: Um, sorry, this is a question for applicants, right?

[04:45:16] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Yes, yeah.

[04:45:17] Unknown Speaker: Um, so one of the, um, you know, one of the background things. Um, that, you know, and I, you know, seeing a lot of the familiar names, um, especially from the Cypress Point community in the, you know, the public comment, we've had a lot of conversations, especially with that group, about, um, about parking about where on the site parking is. Um, there's a reason, if you look at the 3 garages on site, one is one level below grade, one's two, and one's three. And that was a result of a compromise, you know, back in probably 2017, 2018, to say, okay, we'll move some of the parking. We'll move more of the parking onto the middlefield side. Um, to, uh, to limit the number of cars that enter and exit from Cypress Point. Um, and so that's why the garage that's underneath 3179 is three stories below grade, um, that, of course, makes it have more cars. Um, so, you know, we've gone back and forth on this a number of times, um, just in the past few days, and, um, you know, one other thing to consider, you know, we've done, as Diana, um, mentioned in her, in her initial comments, we've done 15 public meetings, we've met, um, with, uh, lots of residents over time, lots of neighbors over time. Um, you know, there are always a lot of new residents at the property. You know, their average tenure at this property is, um, you know, a large majority of folks, I think it's 75% of the residents, um, have lived there for less than three years. So there's a lot of people that moved in after all of this stuff was solved. Um, you know, and we haven't, you know, to be honest, we haven't had a chance to go meet with everyone who was on this call today. Um, I'd love to do that, because I think we have, um, we have answers, we have things that can address a lot of the concerns that have been raised. Um, that's a, sorry, from, you know, it's 11, 15. I can try to get to the point. We've been doing some sketches, working with, um, our design team in the last two days over the weekend, um, to try to see what this was mean, um, you know, in response to, actually, some some questions that have come from some of the council members in our meetings last week. Um, you know, we think, you know, a safe number would be 8200. Um, excuse me, if we if we wanted to remove spaces from the building a garage, it would be, you know, 8200 spaces lost. It may be that it could be lower, you know, 70 or 60. Um, and then there's also a potential opportunity to move some parking from one side of the property to the other. But again, I don't know what the, um, you know, we do think that would work. We do think a reduced ratio would be workable for the operation of the property. Um, but, um, you know, the city's process for reviewing that, you know, I don't know if there's a way to approve something that says, you know, a reduction in parking of up to X spaces, um, to be confirmed by the city. Um, you know, but that's a process question. You know, I think we would be able to do it physically. It would, obviously, be, you know, a slightly different balance, but, you know, that's, as folks are said, we're here to try to make sure we get that balance, right? If we can make a change, we're happy to do it.

[04:48:18] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Okay, that's helpful, and the last question, and I guess this also speaks to process more than anything else. Um, intuitively, I would feel like, uh, a reduction in parking, would also mean a reduction in impacts related to transportation. Um, because you're constraining the number of vehicles that could that can get to the site. So when we're talking about, um, needing to revisit the traffic analysis. Um, and potentially, uh, some of the assumptions in the EIR. What, what, what? Effort would that re- require?

[04:49:03] Unknown Speaker: Um, it, I, I think I, I'd like to confer with our, with our, um, uh, um, consultant if he's, if he's still there, and then just, just let you know, but in our responses to counsel comments, we had sort of put in a few categories. One of the examples is circulation. Sorry. Um, just to take a look and see, um, you know, would people be, um, going around looking for spaces? Would that cause circulation issues? Would it cause safety issues? Uh, uh, to what extent can uh, the reduction and parking be supported to the point where it may not cause some circulation impacts um, around the area. So that was essentially what we wanted to look at. And you are right, lower parking is one of our TDM strategies. But there is a balance. And so that's what we would have liked to take a look at.

[04:50:02] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Yeah, that's helpful. Thank you. I don't know if there is the time or capacity to be able to answer some of these questions in this meeting, but to the extent Steph is able to address the concerns from the council that would be very helpful. Um, so just some quick, I guess, initial thoughts and and um, comments about the project itself. I think as many members of the council have said that the right framing is balance and trade-off. The merits of the project weighed against the impacts and, um, and the, the costs. And I can't help but compare it with some other challenging projects that we've evaluated over the past couple of years. Um, I think about, for instance, 1555 West Middlefield nearby, which was alluded to by a member of the public in 570 South Ring store. Both sizable projects, 1555 was, 5.5 acres, and 570 South Frank store was, 4 acres, completely leveled, uh, with 1555, 55 heritage streets were removed, and with 570 South Frank store, 30 heritage heritage trees, um, there's the same impact to, residences around with construction, and. air quality. Um, those were evaluated using, I guess, older bakmed thresholds. Uh, it would be interesting to do an updated analysis with the, the new thresholds and see if we went, if we would have ended up with statements of overriding considerations in those contexts, but the chief concern is, those projects involves the displacement of all of the residents there. And I, I wonder if, what Avalon had proposed instead of this project was something similar to that. Um, just a complete leveling of the 402 apartments on a 145 acre site, it would have included the removal of heritage trees all the same. Um, and the construction of probably 350 row houses. With like 1555 or 570. No, uh, parkland dedication with no affordable housing. Um, I, I think we set a dangerous precedent in approving projects like that, and then denying a project where I, I feel the applicant has made, as close to a good faith effort as you can make to redevelop the site without displacing any existing residents or demolishing any existing buildings. Um, and including a lot of the amenities and um, the, the community benefits that, that the council has been requesting for, for many years, we, we talk a lot. I think about the frustration with the Parkland dedication and loop fees because we lose purchasing power over time. It's very hard to acquire large sites. Um, and the cost of land is insane. So even if you have a sizable pot of money. Band acquisition is a good chunk of, sauce, and then there's the construction of the park on top of that. In this case, we're getting at one. 3 acre park, um, which, I, we, we rarely have the opportunity to get, and 15% inclusion areas also uncommon, uh, in, in the projects that we've seen over the past several years. Um, so it's, it's difficult for me to say. It, it feels like, in approving projects like 1555 and South and 570 South Rank Store, 2310 Rock Street, 1950 Montecito. The council has expressed comfort with that kind of project. Here, we're trying something new and different, and I think it's important to mitigate all of the impact to the greatest extent possible, because I also am concerned about the quality of life impacts to the residents there. I live in the San Antonio shopping center area. Lots of construction and it is an impact. It's it's challenging, especially for, um, for those who are working at home. You know, I don't mean to, um, to minimize that concern. But I would rather try and find a way to make the project work too. Um, and and have this set, a precedent that I think, um, is, is worth emulating, rather than deny the project, and send a powerful message to the development community that, we would rather scrape existing properties, and deal with a different set of impacts there. Uh, so those are my preliminary thoughts. Um, and uh, we'll return now for a 2nd round of comments and uh, emotion is in order. Uh, council member Abby Koka.

[04:54:46] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: Thank you. Um, I had my, I had a question, um, to staff, um, what are our options this evening in light of, uh, the time, and also, you know, I've heard enough, um, concerns, interest and changes that, um, like even if we just dealt with the parking issues, you know, it doesn't seem like we can do this on the fly here in our virtual dice tonight. So can we continue this? Do we have to deny it? I remember something about denying without prejudice. I remember doing that at some point on a project. So can staff give us what our options are this evening?

[04:55:35] Unknown Speaker: Okay, would you like me to take that one? Jenny, I think Jenny.

[04:55:41] Jannie Quinn: Well, it's, I mean, I think in concert, we could probably come up with it. I mean, it's, you do have the option to continue it. It's not subject to the permanent streamlining act because it's a, It's seeking a general plan amendment, and um, and the rezoning. So one option is to, is to continue it, less RT and Diana, you would disagree with me? No, one option is to continue it. The other option is to approve it and the 3rd with conditions and the 3rd option is to, of course, deny it. Um, if the council did want to continue it, we would appreciate some direction, because it seems like, um, uh, there might be some additional analysis necessary, um, based on what the council wants to do, um, we do want to be prepared. Um, um, so that these are the 3 options. Council king. And we might refine our response based on what the direction is, because it could impact the sequel analysis. It may, it may not be possible, even if you could give us clear direction to do it tonight because of the, the need to go back and and double check the sequel analysis and perhaps do some more sequel analysis. Um,

[04:56:57] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: so then in light of that, then, um, Like, yeah, I guess my interest would be to continue it with direction to staff, to work on further items around the parking issue. Um, the, uh, possibility of um, saving more heritage trees. Um, I would like to condition it, um, that the, um, existing units be renovated 1st, um, before new construction begins. Um, And then, you know, and frankly, I'm open to the option of reducing the unit count, which would satisfy, I believe, the issue of parking, have less units, you know, less parking spaces you need to build and potentially being able to save the trees. So, um, I would make the motion to continue the item with those conditions.

[04:58:08] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Anything else, council member?

[04:58:12] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: No, that would be, and well, actually, I did want to request, well, now I don't know how to do this, but I would, I would, well, I guess if we're going to continue it, then we will vote on the EIR at that point. Is that is that right?

[04:58:31] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Is that a question for staff?

[04:58:32] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: Yes, I'm sorry. Staff, is that correct?

[04:58:36] Unknown Speaker: Yes, you would vote, you would continue it and vote on the AAR next time. Um, the, our, um, uh, consultant did confirm that likely the sequel wouldn't change, but we would have to update our transportation analysis, as you know, um, that's separate from sequel now. Um, and, uh, he thought they'd be fairly minor changes just to review circulation impacts, um, just preliminarily.

[04:59:09] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you Vice Mayor Hicks.

[04:59:15] Vice Mayor Alison Hicks: Okay. I almost lowered my hand because I I'm going to say something very similar to what uh, council member Abicoga said. So, I don't know whether we're, whether we're moving towards approving it with conditions or continuing it with conditions. Either one would be fine with me. I seem to hear that re, uh, thinking the parking was possible, and also, the, the one piece that I didn't hear was that the mayor asked about, um, stacking as a possible additional way of, uh, of rethinking the parking. Um, and I didn't hear, maybe we don't need to hear that, but if you do have an answer of whether you've considered that, or, uh, it seems like that is commonly is to, um, use space more efficiency.

[05:00:07] Unknown Speaker: Sure. Sure. We could explore it. We haven't, in the time we've had, we haven't figured out how to lay that out. You know, I don't think there's a way to... reduce that footprint and use stackers and magically get the same number. Um, you know, there's still gonna be an overall reduction. Um, but, um, but yes, we'd be happy to explore it.

[05:00:29] Vice Mayor Alison Hicks: Okay. So, and then the additional thing, I talked to an arborist today who said that roots on redwoods are fairly shallow, so it's a balancing act, but you could possibly put, not the first floor under the redwood, but, you know, some, like, third floor. So it seems like they're, I'm not gonna work that out for you tonight, but, um, it seems like there are a number of options between stackers and and, um, rearranging parking, that that is a possibility. And then I also, several council people had mentioned, um, I'm a little puzzled why the renovation of the units is gonna be done at the end, whether it couldn't be rescheduled to the beginning, because that seems to, uh, dress a lot of the, um, a lot of the air quality concerns. So that was, I've heard several other people say that, and I would, I would say that as well. But I would like to, you know, I would like to approve this, with some of these changes, I would like to approve it as soon as possible.

[05:01:36] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. I'm the member, Shel Walter.

[05:01:40] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Yeah, I just wanted to revisit the idea of whether or not we could approve the EIR tonight. It seems to me that, um, what we're talking about is reducing the, um, you know, we're reducing the scope of the project. reducing the envelope of the project. And so, um, the EIR would would still hold the same. I mean, and that, in particular, is if the transportation, uh, analysis is separate. So could you, uh, talk a little bit about that, RT? Aren't we reducing the footprint by doing this? Um, yes, um, I did talk, and again, preliminarily, um, our consultant felt that it would not, we would not need to revise the sequo document. Because, again, parking, um, uh, and, you know, um, is not directly a sequel issue. We do need to, however, update our transportation analysis, which we do in order to assess circulation impact, or rather the effects of circulation. Um, and you're right, um, if there's less digging, uh, uh, then it would have reduced impacts. Um, so we're not as worried about the sequel document. Is there any advantage to us approving it tonight from your point of view so you have that done? Um, I, you, you could? Or you could wait until we had the analysis finished. Um, it, you could do it either way based on what I'm hearing from the uh, from the consultant. Well, I, um, I think there might be some merit in going ahead and approving it tonight because I think that that would send a signal that we are serious about moving forward with this project, with changes. And I think that that would be a good signal. So, um, I'm interested in that possibility. And I'm look, I'm trying to scroll down in the, to find the, um, where that would be, to make a motion. Um,

[05:04:04] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: Mayor, I made a motion. I don't know if it was clear, but it was emotion, so I was hoping to hear if anyone would 2nd it before we go on to further discussion.

[05:04:17] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Um, my apologies. Uh, so I I also, I'm learning how tough it is to coordinate the meeting and and monitor the discussion. So, uh, I understand the city's consultant, John Schwarz is, um, is uh, able to answer some questions. Uh, council member Abi Foka, just for my benefit. Can you repeat the motion one more time? and I saw 2nd from council member Matachek?

[05:04:44] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: Uh, yes, so my motion was to continue that item and bring it back, um, or direct staff to, um, explore the, the potential reduction in the parking requirements, um, saving more heritage trees, and, um, I would require that the renovations, um, the air filters and the windows would be, um, done earlier, uh, before construction, new construction begins Um, Trees, parking, Renovations. So yeah, those 3 items.

[05:05:25] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Sorry, you also said, I can interrupt for a 2nd here. that you were open to potentially a reduction in unit count.

[05:05:34] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: Yes, so um, yes, thank you. And that could resolve our parking and heritage tree tree issues. Um,

[05:05:43] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: okay. I, um, I want to ask staff a clarifying question, but 1st let's go to Mr. Schwartz.

[05:05:52] John Schwarz: Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Good evening, members of the council. My name is John Schwarz, contract planner to the city assisting RT and Diana with the EIR process for the project. Just wanted to chime in a little bit and tack on RT and I did talk, like she mentioned, a little bit offline. And I think there would be some advantage to the city in certifying the EIR tonight if you are comfortable with that. That would make the document complete and easier to build on and revise if there were tweaks to the project and the layout for the garage. Um, so I would agree with, uh, council members show alter about that suggestion. I think that would be helpful for us on the EIR team if that was, you know, finalized, certified, and approved, and then we could make any, uh, tweaks to that as needed. I don't expect a lot of changes to the sequid document just off the cuff tonight. We need to think through this. So I don't want to speak out of turn. We do need to think through the parking, circulation, spill over stuff. Um, and certainly just whether this changes any of the excavation numbers and the trips and hauling associated with that. Again, I don't expect it to be material. It's probably gonna go down, like has been discussed, but just wanted to add, we just need some a little time to think through that, but I would recommend you certify the ER if you're comfortable with that tonight. Thank you.

[05:07:05] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Okay. Thank you. That's very helpful. And then just a procedural question for Steph on the motion.

[05:07:12] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Uh, so, uh, I'll be deferential to stats on, on the interpretation, if we're continuing the item, um, you know, that, that's, usually just, bring back, uh, there was some additional, uh, direction attended to that, um, regarding, um, a requirement that the renovations be done earlier in the phasing, and, uh, that staff explorer, unit count reduction. So procedurally, how would staff interpret the motion if it is approved?

[05:07:48] Unknown Speaker: Um, mayor, if you don't mind, I'd like to confer with Janny for a couple of minutes, um, to go through the items, but if the council wish, they would certify the EIR for sure. And and preliminarily and then continue the item for the other, um, uh, motions with majority direction for counsel on the follow-up. But let me just confer with Jenny and make sure that the language you use is appropriate.

[05:08:19] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Okay. Um, So in the meantime, uh, we'll continue the council deliberation council membership, Walter. Um,

[05:08:29] Councilmember Pat Showalter: I I would like to move that we um, adopt a resolution of the city council, the city of Mountain View, certifying the 555 West Middlefield Road Project Final Environmental Impact Report, adopting a sequel finding related to environmental impacts, mitigation measures, and alternatives, and adopting a statement of overriding considerations, mitigation measures, and a mitigation, monitoring, and reporting program, to be read and title only for their reading waived.

[05:08:58] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Second.

[05:09:01] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Oh, I believe. Is that an alternate motion? I was interpreting it as a substitute motion. Um, with Council member Lieber as the 2nder, and it was simply the approval of staff recommendation number one, the authorization of the EIR.

[05:09:25] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Yeah, I mean, I think I think I think it's appropriate to do it this way. Um, council member Aboko, because we're gonna get direction back from, um, the, uh, uh, city attorney and, uh, and, uh, the director about the continuance in a few minutes. So just as a time, you know, time saver, I think we might as well go ahead and do this.

[05:09:51] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Okay, um, anything else comes from our show, Alter, before I go to council member Mattachek?

[05:09:56] Councilmember Pat Showalter: No.

[05:09:57] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Okay. Thank you. Council member, Matt, check.

[05:10:01] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Yeah, so I actually had a question, um, for council member, Abi Koga. Um, I 2nd it, but I want to make sure we're using the same terminology or I believe the applicant when they say renovate, talks about the interiors of the units, and they're doing those as people move out versus what I think you mean is replacing the windows. And allowing residents to get the air filters. Is that correct?

[05:10:27] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: Yes, those are the 2 items that I was mainly concerned about, anything to, you know, enhance the protection against the the PM 2.5.

[05:10:38] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Okay, so I agree with that. Thanks.

[05:10:43] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Okay. Thank you for the clarification. So that remains the underlying motion. We do have a substitute motion that will consider 1st council member believer.

[05:10:54] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Um, I, I was seeing council member show Walters motion as kind of a, uh, add on subsequent motion, um, But, um, I am all in favor of continuing the item, but I would like to have staff come back to us with the options around, um, what work is done before. I don't want to turn 7 years into 8 years. of dust and uh, disruption. So I'd like to understand what that means. And I'm not willing to, just tonight, on the fly, reduce the number of units. I mean, this has been going on for way too long to just make a quick turn about. Um, I am all in favor of, um, seeing having staff come back with options around reduced parking, parking, and other locations, uh, to save more heritage trees. Um, but I'm, I'm not willing to, at this time, in an uninformed way, commit to reducing the overall number of units, uh, or not getting information from, from the residents. I think that the double pane windows are very important, uh, the air filter is of overriding importance, um, some of the things that were mentioned by the up, like painting the existing buildings to look like the new buildings, and replacing, um, uh, balconies replacing the wrought iron with wood that would more closely match the new buildings. I think that that might just be, um, resident torture at this point, if we are moving ahead with a major construction project there. Um, especially given that there's the option of doing work to units that no one is living in before someone new moves into them. So I just want to reduce the overall load on the residents, but again, I am very comfortable with continuing the item. Uh, looking at the parking again, uh, seeing what options exist, um, for the trees.

[05:13:23] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you, council member. Council member committee.

[05:13:27] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Thank you. Um, so that that was kind of my question. Um, mayor and staff is, um, the difference between continuing the item, and I think the the vice mayor brought this up or, um, approving it with the conditions. Um, you know, I'm most interested in the, you know, potential parking reduction and the, the ability to save some more heritage trees. Um, I think the, you know, when it comes to the air filters that applicants are already committed to that, with the renovations, I, you know, and the, um, reduction in units. I, you know, I don't want to do anything that would put the project in jeopardy of going forward. Um, the unit count hasn't been what's of concern to me. So I just, um, You know, I, I also, you know, I don't know if the African's ready to talk about that, but, you know, I would say, I, I do want the project to, to move forward, um, with these, you know, changes that we're looking into. Um, and I just don't know if the best path forward is to continue the item or to approve it with the, with the conditions to make these certain tweaks. And so I'm not sure if, um, Mr. Vastova and, um, interim city attorney Quinn can answer that tonight or not. Um, but that's that's what I'm most interested in. And it sounds like, um, we will be, there was a motion or a substitute motion to certify the EIR tonight. So I just wanted to ask. Thanks.

[05:15:03] Unknown Speaker: So, um, if I may respond and and Janny can, um, pitch in, um, as needed. So for the EIR, you did hear from our consultant, um, that the council may move forward. If there are any adjustments, we will bring that back when we bring the project back to you. And we don't think there are going to be any, there's going to be anything significant given the majority direction. Um, the the 2nd item is um, uh, about continuing. So the balance of the motions would not be taken and you would continue the item with specific direction for staff and majority direction. Um, what we're hearing, um, most of the council members say is they're open to, uh, the parking reduction, um, and or relocation to save trees, which we can look at, um, based on what the applicant has said. Um, I did not see, um, a majority say that the window units had to be replaced prior to construction beginning. This is not a condition of approval we can require. And so the applicant would have to respond to that if the majority of the council wanted us to bring back that kind of a solution. I didn't hear any other specific requirements.

[05:16:28] Unknown Speaker: Well, and I just wanted to add, I think in terms of, um, Another thing that RT and I would like to raise is, it is almost midnight, and, um, we might not be doing our best thinking at this time, and have the chance, some flexibility to have the chance to speak with the applicant, and there may be some ways to address the concerns that have been raised that we aren't thinking of at this time. Um, and so I think that would be advisable to give us some flexibility direction, but some flexibility to bring back options and other ways to accommodate the concerns that have been raised.

[05:17:17] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. Anything else, council member command?

[05:17:22] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Um, thank you. A couple of, I guess, quick thoughts. So I'm personally very reluctant to modify a parking ratio on the fly without having had any substantive community engagement. Um, I think uh, we risk, um, having ourselves in trouble if we're doing sort of a one off, parking adjustment for one project. Um, you know, with, without, um, without, they fully appreciating where the community may be, if we do end up with, uh, parking spillover, which I think had been a concern that was articulated previously. Um, it's, it's, it doesn't feel, this is something, I think, council member Clark would say, doesn't feel like good public policy. Uh, I would rather have tried to see if there was support for, um, for the, the staff recommendation before we, we tried point apart in, in doing different things as, as, um, as I think creative we want to be to try and find a solution that works for everybody. Um, if there is not support for the staff recommendation, I would support council member, show Walters motion, which at least allows the, the authorization of the EIR and an opportunity for staff and the consultant to return with, um, some ideas or options for what a parking reduction might look like. Um, but it's, it's a, it's a precedent that we're setting and we should be very, we should walk in eyes wide open about what this would mean if we do it for this project, no other. Um, and especially if it does get built. Uh, and we do hear concerns from the community about the parking impacts. You know, we, I think it will be because we, we really haven't done our due diligence on a, a broader PDM or parking strategy. Um, so just uh, uh, uh, I guess a quick thought about the current motion. My preference actually would be to vote both of them down, but I'm not certain there's chance of support for, um, the, the staff recommendation at this time. We'll see what happens. Um, so just to be very clear on the motion, we'll, we'll go back for another round of, of questions and comments, um, current motion, the substitute motion that will entertain 1st is certification of the EIR, and then, basically a continuation of the balance, staff would evaluate some options, work with the applicant, come back with what reduced parking. project alternative might look like with the, um, the, the modified traffic study. Um, that, is that a fair understanding of the motion staff, is that, is that also your, your understanding? Madam City Clerk, is that the, I,

[05:20:20] City Clerk: I was, my attention was taken away because I, I understood the substitute motion to be just the approval of the sequa document. So,

[05:20:28] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thought the city clerk could tell us.

[05:20:34] City Clerk: Yeah, the emotion that counseling for shelter and labor is just for the 1st recommendation, which is the approval of the EIR.

[05:20:47] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Okay. And then if we did that. What action would need to be taken next? What would staff do? We've certified the EIR, but we haven't approved a project. We haven't amended the general planner zoning. What, what, uh, another motion be required to provide additional direction to counsel, uh, to, to staff?

[05:21:07] City Attorney Jannie Quinn: Correct, because the substitute motion replaced the, the motion from council member Abi Koga.

[05:21:14] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: All right. Another motion could be made to duplicate that because the substitute motion.

[05:21:21] City Attorney Jannie Quinn: Nope, I'm looking at. Yeah, it became the substitute. It is the motion. It took the place up.

[05:21:30] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: I agree. I guess, I guess just, maybe I muddied the waters and trying to clarify. So, here's my understanding. Council number, show, Walter, Council member, Lieber, of your your emotion in 2nd or certifying the ER. Then, we would come back and see if there's additional direction, which would have to be provided in a new motion by the council to staff, to evaluate a reduced parking alternative, and basically return with some options. That's what would happen if the, if the substitute motion is approved, because certification of the EIR is insufficient for, for anything else to occur. We would need to provide some additional direction. Um, council member reliever.

[05:22:19] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Thank you, mayor. Um, so if council member show Walter is amenable to continuing the item with uh, the majority direction that's been given to staff, would that be adequate? Uh, uh, uh, with her is is an addendum to the motion that she's already made. She's moved to, uh, adopt the resolution, uh, certifying the EIR, and can she add that, that the balance of the item be continued, with the majority direction that's been given to staff?

[05:23:05] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Council member Shell Welcher, were you interested in adding any additional direction to your motion? You don't have to. have to have another motion.

[05:23:19] Councilmember Pat Showalter: I'm a little confused. I suppose I could also, what would happen if I withdrew the motion, Jenny?

[05:23:27] City Attorney Jannie Quinn: We would vote on the underlying motion, which was Council member, I'll be focus motion 2nded by Council member, Met, council member, Met, check.

[05:23:33] Councilmember Pat Showalter: All right, well, then, let's let's go ahead and, um, I, I, I guess after this discussion, I've heard my, my, um, uh, desire would be to just see if we could pass the staff recommendation, but that, that apparently is impossible, um, because it would go to, um, if I withdraw the motion and we'll go to, um, council member Avocogus motion. So, um, Uh, I think we should just go forward and and, um, approve the... I would like to approve the EIR. I think that that would give, um, a good base... Oops, good basis to staff, and perhaps we can approve the rest. Thank you.

[05:24:20] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: I'm sorry. So you have, have you modified your motion? Or it remains just recommendation one of the staff recommendation.

[05:24:32] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Can I modify it to be the whole thing?

[05:24:35] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: You'd have to read, uh, in the agenda flow, you'll have to read all of the...

[05:24:43] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Okay. All right, I'm gonna modify it to include to adopt a resolution of the city council, the city of Mountain View, approving a general plan amendment, to add a new high low density residential land use designation, and making related text amendments, and an amendment to the general plan land use map, for the property located at 555 West Middlefield Road, from medium density residential to high, low density residential, to be read entitled only, further reading wave. Three, adopt a resolution of the city council, the city of Mountain View, approving a planned community permit, and development review permit, to allow a 323 unit edition to the existing 402 unit residential development, with 3 new subterranean garages, new amenity building leasing office, and new 1.34 acre public park, and a heritage tree removal permit to remove 57 heritage trees, at 555 West Middlefield Road, to be read entitled only, The reading waived. Four, adopt a resolution of the city council, the city of Mountain View, approving a vesting, tentative map to create three lots, with up to 11 condominium, uh, with 111 condominium units, at 555 West Middlefield Road, to be read entitled only further reading waived.

[05:25:59] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Um, so Council member Show Alter, I think staff will ask about this too. Um, you didn't include the modification in recommendation 3, which is the addition of the sentence with a modification to add a condition. uh acknowledging for additional voluntary offers proposed by the applicant related to the construction of the project.

[05:26:20] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Sorry, I would like to add that.

[05:26:23] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Okay, so, then that's a, uh, complete revision to your motion. The substitute motion now is the staff recommendation. Uh, Council member Lieber, you are the 2nder of the motion. Are you comfortable with that change?

[05:26:40] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Uh, uh, 2nded for purposes of discussion.

[05:26:44] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Okay. And you also have your hand up. Did you wish to speak?

[05:26:49] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Um, no, I think, uh, Counselor Rachel Walter took us a new direction, so I'll, I'll just stay with Dad for right now.

[05:26:58] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Okay. Council member Abi Koga.

[05:27:01] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: Thank you just a point of information or question, a question of, where did my original motion go?

[05:27:10] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: It filled the unflying motion. So if the substitute fails, we will then vote on your motion. And the substitute motion now is staff recommendation.

[05:27:20] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: Okay. So I will not be supporting this. I actually would like to bifurcate the EIR and the, um, and then to continue the item because, I think it doesn't sound like we can tonight decide on parking and trees and whatnot. Um, I think that needs to be continued and be and be brought back. So I will not be supporting this notion. Thanks.

[05:27:45] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Okay. Thank you. Vice Mayor Hicks.

[05:27:49] Vice Mayor Alison Hicks: Yes, I will not be supporting it because I preferred the road we were going down before. So I hope that road comes back.

[05:27:58] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Okay. Council number lever.

[05:28:02] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Okay. Um, oh, allow council member committee to take 15 precedents here, since I've already spoken, and I'll speak after she does.

[05:28:13] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Okay, sounds good. Council member can May.

[05:28:16] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Great. Thank you. Thanks, Council member Lieper. I was just gonna say, you know, um, I was interested, um, in approving the EIR tonight. I was interested in moving the project forward tonight, but just did want the opportunity to look into the parking reduction and the ability to save more trees. And so, It sounds like if we go forward with the staff recommendation that won't happen. Um, so I, I'm not going to be supporting the motion, but I do support, um, moving forward with the, with the EIR and the, and the project in general, just wanted to have the opportunity to, to have stuff look at the, um, parking reduction and, and potential, um, additional tree preservation. So, thank you.

[05:28:59] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. Council member Lieber.

[05:29:03] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Thank you, Mayor. Um, I'd like to try a substitute to the substitute motion.

[05:29:08] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: No. Can't do that. So by convention, we've allowed one substitute. Uh, so if this motion fails, or if the maker wants to remind it again, um, you know, we will have to go eventually, if this motion doesn't succeed, we'll have to go to the underlying motion, and if that doesn't succeed, we can consider a new motion, but just for the sake of simplicity. Uh, you know, tertiary subsidies is is very difficult to manage. So, I would like to dispense with this motion 1st.

[05:29:40] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Oh, parliamentary inquiry, if I may. Um, is is that a written role of the body? Um,

[05:29:50] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: I, so, I don't know the answer to that question. Um, but I, I think just as, uh, as a matter of practicality, if we allow substitutes to the substitute, you could do so, it add infinitum, and it would make for a very long and convoluted meeting. So I think I think just for the sake of simplicity. We, we have, by convention, allowed one substitute, at least that's been my observation. Um, the substitute can pass or fail, we would consider it the underlying, and both motions could fail, and that would allow for an opportunity for, for a new motion.

[05:30:26] Councilmember Sally Lieber: And uh, since I still have the floor, may I ask council member, Shel Walter, if she would consider reducing her motion to the adoption? of the resolution of uh, the EIR and continuing the item with the direction that's been provided to staff.

[05:30:49] Councilmember Pat Showalter: I'm not happy with the idea of reducing the amount of numbers, the number of units. I think that that idea that's been directed to staff is not acceptable to me. The rest would be acceptable, but I don't like the idea of reducing the number of units. I think that that's... I'm not ready to do that.

[05:31:09] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Well, through the chair, if I may, um, if the motion is to adopt the resolution on the EIR, and then to go simply with continuing the item to look at, uh, the parking and the other issues that were provided to staff, and a majority of the members here did say that they didn't want to reduce the overall number of units, So if we continued the item in that way, then it wouldn't involve a reduction in the number of units. Would those be acceptable amendments?

[05:31:51] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: We're at grave risk of enormous confusion. Um, so, I, I, I'm, We, we have, Let's go ahead and call a question. I'll 1st turn to the city manager and then we can, we can proceed with the vote if there isn't any additional comment. Seeing the uh manager McCarthy.

[05:32:16] City Manager Kimbra McCarthy: Thank you, mayor, council members. Um, I want to let you all know what I'm hearing for, for a path forward that seems to have majority support. So just to be clear, two motions were made. The substitute motion on the floor was to approve the EIR, and then that was amended to approve staff's recommendation. What I'm hearing from you all, though, is that it appears the majority is comfortable, proven the EIR tonight, and then asking staff to come back, do more analysis on the parking reduction, which would save some trees. and come back with what the transportation analysis would look like. Also come back with making sure that the window units and air filters were replaced prior to construction beginning. And I did not hear majority support for reduction of units. So that is not what I'm hearing. So you could amend the motion that's on the floor now as council member labor, I think, was getting that, approve the EIR tonight, and have staff come back with those 3 primary areas. Reduced parking, save the trees. Two, come back with the transportation analysis, three, don't start the construction until the window units and air filters are replaced.

[05:33:48] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Uh, I'm going to turn 1st to, um, Ms. Travosteva, and then give an opportunity for the applicant to win and then we'll resume the council deliberation. Uh, you, you took your hand down. Did you?

[05:34:02] Ms. Travosteva: I did, I did, because, um, sorry, um, mayor, I, uh, did want, um, you to check with the applicant, um, on anything that we could not condition, and that would be the windows.

[05:34:16] Joe Kirchoffer: Right, so, um, I'll jump in if that's all right. I did want to chime in on the windows. Um, I, you know, I hear the concern. I'd ask for some flexibility in the council's direction to staff because, um, it's not logistically possible to replace all of the windows in 15 buildings in the time between now and, I mean, when this permit would expire. Um, it's, you know, one to two months per building, 15 buildings. It's a long process. It's quite an arduous process, the comments about adding another year, you know, making this instead of 7 years making it eight, it'd probably make it nine. Um, and, you know, if, you know, I hear loud and clear that there's, um, an intent to ensure that this is taken care of in some way, but, um, I'd ask that we provide some flexibility so that we can work with staff to come up with a proposal that, um, that we can actually implement.

[05:35:16] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. Um, so we're, there's, there's a lot of debate, um, and I think at a certain point we will probably want to proceed with the vote, uh, and just as a reminder, the current motion is the staff recommendation, uh, and the, if, that's the substitute. And then if that fails, the underlying motion is the continuation of the item with some additional direction to staff. Council member of Metachek.

[05:35:48] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: I don't feel like we've really given the majority direction yet, because from my perspective, that would be voting on the motion that council member Abbe Kogan made. So I haven't weighed in on some of the things you all are talking about. I was just planning on voting.

[05:36:05] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: No, I agree with you. The intent is not to transition to something of a study session like format where we informally, uh, tabulate the, the, the number of votes for particular ideas, because this is agendized for action, we'll have to have a, a formal notion that will include all of the direction we want to provide the staff. So, so I think we're on the same page there. Council member Abby Koga.

[05:36:42] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: Sorry. Um. So, um, I just wanted to clarify, um, the items that I included in the original emotion, the conditions, um, the one about reducing units was, I guess, you know, if we try everything else and we can't come up with resolutions, then we would look at that. So I wasn't saying directing staff right away to look at reducing units. I was just putting that in as an option. So, I just wanted to clarify that. Um, I didn't, I'm not actually sure where, where, what motion we're at yet, but I still would like to. I'd like to request that we bifurcate the motion, um, and just do the EIR separately from the continuance, um, And you know, frankly, I will not be able to support the EIR. So that's why I wanted to ask for the bifurcation. Thanks.

[05:37:45] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. Um, I, I, I would consider, just for whatever it's worth procedurally, a bifurcation, um, a substitute, amendment or a tertiary substitute. I think just for the sake of clarity, we should dispense with the current motion. And then proceed to the underlying, and if both of those fail, then there will be an opportunity for, for a different motion entirely. Um, there are no additional hands. Um. Some members show altered. did you want to say something?

[05:38:18] Councilmember Pat Showalter: So is the mayor requesting that I bifurcate this motion?

[05:38:23] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: No, I, I, I, I, what I would suggest, what I, I think we are maximally confused at this point. What I would prefer to do is dispense with each motion without any additional amendments, you are welcome to disregard my recommendation. Um, but once we've dispensed with emotions, either they will pass or they won't. And if they, if neither passes, then we can provide new motion with different direction. But I think that's probably the simplest way to proceed. Council member believer.

[05:39:00] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Okay, I think that, um, part of the confusion, mayor, if I may, is that there's a difference between a substitute motion and a subsequent motion. And council member Showalter's motion was really a subsequent motion. Um, in its initial form before she added the additional items to, to make it entirely, um, supplanting, uh, council member Albe Koga. So, again, I'd like to urge Council member Showalter to mentor motion to be just the, um, adoption of the EIR and continue the balance of the item with the, um, information that's been presented to staff.

[05:39:50] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Let, let's, let's interim city attorney Quinn. By your thoughts.

[05:39:58] Interim City Attorney Quinn: Well, I, I, I was in favor of the path that the mayor's been, um, trying to convey that, that, to vote the motion on the floor, but now the seconder of the motion has asked the maker of the motion, if she's willing to amend the motion. So it's either. amend the motion or just vote on the motion on the floor to move staff's recommendation.

[05:40:29] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: There's another alternative. This is uncommon, but I feel like this is a rare occasion where it would justify it. I will move to end debate, which will terminate any ability to make additional comments and to modify motions. It does require a 2 thirds vote though. Is there a 2nd to end debate? Remember Mad Jack?

[05:40:56] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Sorry. Um, didn't uh, council member, show Walter, call the question. A while ago. Which is basically the same thing you're proposing, except it doesn't require two thirds. Council member show Welchair called the question. So let's vote on her emotion. Isn't that what the rules are?

[05:41:17] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I have a, so without delving too deeply into parliamentary procedure, you know, to, to balance the right of individuals to speak with the right of the group to conduct business efficiently, of, of calling the question is functionally equivalent to moving to M debate, and it requires a 2 thirds vote. Um, it still requires a motion and maker in a 2nd. Um, but and we don't do it very often, but there is no way for an individual member of the council to unilaterally end debate. Um, but there are also no more hands, so we don't even have to do that. Um, So, here's the order of operation. The 1st motion we will entertain is the motion made by council member show Walter 2nded by council member labor. That's the staff recommendation. If that fails, then we will proceed. For the attorney, you're shaking your head. Just, just vote. Just vote on that. Then we'll talk about what we do next. Let's just vote. Sounds good. Uh, city clerk, can you proceed with the roll call?

[05:42:31] City Clerk: Oh, I'm sorry, is the vote the staff recommendation or is that the motion? Okay. Is that what you're voting on right now? Council member show Walter?

[05:42:39] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Yes.

[05:42:41] City Clerk: Council member Lieber?

[05:42:42] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Abstain.

[05:42:46] City Clerk: Council member Abbe Koga?

[05:42:48] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: No.

[05:42:50] City Clerk: Council member Kmei?

[05:42:52] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: No.

[05:42:52] City Clerk: Did you say no? I'm sorry No. No. Uh,

[05:42:57] City Clerk: Council member Mattachek?

[05:42:59] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: No.

[05:43:00] City Clerk: Vice Mayor Hicks?

[05:43:02] Vice Mayor Alison Hicks: No.

[05:43:04] City Clerk: Mayor Ramirez.

[05:43:06] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Yes.

[05:43:08] City Clerk: Motion fails. Two or one.

[05:43:14] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. So now we will vote on the underlying motion, which was the motion made by council member Abi Koga, 2nded by council member Matachek. Um, and it, I think there was a clarification, clarification made. Council member Abikoka, can you restate your motion?

[05:43:32] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: Yes, um, so my motion is to continue the item and direct staff to, um, look at the parking ratio issue, um, the possibility of saying being more heritage trees. Um, I guess I did have a question for staff. I don't understand why we can't condition the windows since this is a gatekeeper project and we require community benefits. So, um, that is part of the motion that if, you know, staff can answer me, then I can look at, take, changing that if, If needed. And then if they're, uh, 4th item was to explore a reduction of, um, unit count should, um, should there not be a possibility of, um, reducing or reducing parking ratios in heritage saving heritage trees.

[05:44:34] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: And I'm sorry, yeah, Steph, could you respond to my question about the windows?

[05:44:41] Interim City Attorney Quinn: Yes, yes. Jenny, maybe you can take it.

[05:44:44] City Staff: yeah Well, I wanted to point out that, um, number one, we need some time to look at it about whether we can impose it as a condition, because we have some concerns about that. Number two, if it is going to be a condition, then it needs to be a feasible condition and based on the comments of the developer, it's not clear that it would be feasible. So, um, We, we will, we can take a look at it, but I'm not confident to, to provide you an answer now whether or not we can actually condition the project.

[05:45:14] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: And that was my, that was my intent of the motion was to explore these items, parking, heritage trees, um, the window replacements and the air filters, the installation of air filters, and, um, if needed, reducing unit count.

[05:45:38] City Staff: But then for staff, clarification purposes, given the late hour, that the, the motion would be if possible to impose it as a condition or provide alternatives to the council. On some member labor?

[05:46:01] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Thank you, Mayor. Um, well, since the motion has not been 2nded yet, um, I'd like to...

[05:46:09] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Or Matachek is the seconder.

[05:46:11] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Oh, okay. Um, uh, would it be in order for me to propose amendments then?

[05:46:20] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: I, I, so this is way deeper into parliamentary procedure than I was prepared for this meeting. Um, I'll I'll defer to the city attorney. Uh, having dispensed with the substitute motion is there an allowance for motions to amend? Or do we just, I thought we just voted on the underlying motion?

[05:46:47] Interim City Attorney Quinn: Well, the maker of the motion and the 2nd door of the motion would have to be willing to accept the amendment.

[05:46:55] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Okay. Well, I'd like to propose to the maker in the 2nd or that they, uh, delete the, um, clause about, uh, reducing the number of units, um, Because I think that that's not a path that a majority of the council members uh, want to go down at this time.

[05:47:23] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: So, um, My, in listening to the discussion, I, I, my perspective was that there's a majority that, um, values the trees and, um, you know, even park reducing parking. Um, and so I guess I just would like to see it come back with all of the options available rather than deciding now what we, you know, don't want to do because it's, I think it's a, you know, it's a values question. Do you want to save more trees or do you want another unit of, you know, another apartment unit? And I think we have to weigh. I think we should weigh all the options before we make those decisions. So, um, so I'd like to keep it the way it is. I'm not saying we need to do that. I'm just saying let's look at the options.

[05:48:27] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: You still have your hand up, council member labor?

[05:48:30] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Oh, no, I just raised it again. Sorry, mayor. Um, I, I guess, you know, given that, given that a majority has, has said that they would not want that to be a part of some motion or they would not approve of that. Um, I, I would have to, um, myself not vote, um, eye on the motion, regrettably, and, um, I, I think that, um, It's it's not a necessary part of the motion, and it's not in concurrence with where a majority of council is with this. Yeah, thank you.

[05:49:08] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Any final comments thoughts? If not, we're voting on the motion to continue with the additional direction provided by council member Abbe Koga. Um, and then just a question for staff. Again, procedurally, what you would do is return, there's no date certain, so it would be sometime, I guess, after analysis is done. And you would come back to the council with, the staff recommendations you had presented. Uh, for this item, plus some options. I'm guessing that would be vetted with the applicant. That a fair understanding?

[05:49:47] City Staff: Yes, and it's likely we'd have to go to the EPC as well. Council member can make.

[05:49:55] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Great. Thank you. So, um, uh, appreciate, uh, the conversation about the, um, the units. So I, you know, I don't feel, I don't feel comfortable, um, voting yes on the motion when we include the units. I feel like, um, while I am interested in the, you know, potential parking reduction in saving the trees. I feel like then we're, if we're talking about a potential reduction in units, then I feel like, then we're asking for a complete project redesign, and I'm hoping, I guess my, my hope had been that we could do a slight tweak to the parking garage as a way to save some more heritage trees and to not, um, not have as much parking. Perhaps that was my being naive, but that had been my hope and that the rest of the project, um, composition wouldn't have to change substantially. Um, and so my concern is that if we include the potential reduction of units, then it would have to be, once again, having the applicant do a redesign and have to go to DRC plus EPC plus council. So, um, that doesn't make me feel comfortable. So, I think if the motion just included the, um, the reduction in parking and the, and looking at protecting more heritageries, I would be in support, but the, but the, the calling out of the units, even if it is a potential looking at, um, just makes me a bit uncomfortable. So I won't be able to support that. Thanks. Thank you. Council member Mattachek.

[05:51:32] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Thanks. I assume the motion was staff would come back with options. And one option would be no reduction in units. Um, but you could reduce the parking by a certain number of spaces. Um, and save, specific trees, um, and then another option might be, um, you know, you, Reduce it by 5 units, and it makes a huge difference because the tree roots in this area. Take up 5 of the parking spaces. I didn't view it as, um, it's a given. that we would reduce the number of units. And I did assume that staff would come back with different options. So as we could look at what are the trade-offs, and what are we optimizing to? Um, and so I felt comfortable having that as one of the options, but there would be other options where there would be no reduction in units. It's, and I see council member Abe Kovi shaking her head. That's the motion I felt like I 2nded it. Okay, thanks. Thank you. Bye, Smart.

[05:52:47] Vice Mayor Alison Hicks: Yeah, I basically agree with what council member Kame said.

[05:52:53] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Okay, thank you. So, um, we'll go ahead and proceed with the vote on this, and then, um, if it fails, then, um, I'm going to make a motion, or I will propose a motion that is modeled after what staff had recommended, recommended earlier, which would be authorization of the EIR, um, and then the direction to, uh, conduct a study, um, to see what reduced parking ratio would be acceptable, that would the outcome that we're seeking, which is to preserve some of the, uh, the heritage treats proposed to be removed. Um, okay.

[05:53:33] City Staff: I have a draft language on the slide. Sorry, just trying to make sure we get the right direction on the motion. So, I would like to present that.

[05:53:44] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Sure, before we... Vote on it just to make sure that's what, um, Council member Abikov intended. Council member, Abbe Toga. Um, is this a reasonable summary of your motion?

[05:54:27] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: It is. I, I, I did want to, um, I guess go back to Council member Mattachek's clarification. So, you know, I think there are potentially a few options that we can look at, and so it wouldn't be just one, but bringing back a couple, and we can just lay the, you know, the benefits of each option. Pick the best one. Thank you for the clarification. And then, uh, Diana is that, um, can you incorporate that in your language? Is that is that is that clarification understood? Um,

[05:55:12] City Staff: I think what I try to do with this is to make sure we capture all the aspects of it. It is understood. I don't know, GNE, if you have any further, um, Changes to what I'm showing on the screen right here. My idea was, you know, to capture all the directions, uh, and aspects of the direction, and staff understands that, you know, the the primary, um, uh, things that we are looking at is, you know, reducing parking to save, uh, specific heritage trees. Um, staff can explore various options, including, you know, reduction in unit count, if that can help towards reducing parking, if we can come up with any other arrangements. Um, the change in, you know, the project configuration in order to incorporate the reduction in parking will require us to revise our MTA study. So staff will have to revise it and bring it back for council consideration, and also explore if it is feasible to impose renovation. Uh, with replacement of windows be conducted prior to construction, um, and make it a condition of approval, because we don't know if that's going to be feasible. And if it can be imposed. So that's another thing that staff will have to explore and come back.

[05:56:37] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: That's fine. I I think you did capture the the intent. Thank you.

[05:56:46] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Okay, um, I am not seeing any hands. Uh, well, the city clerk uh, commenced the roll call for the boat.

[05:57:01] City Clerk: Council member Abby Coco?

[05:57:03] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: I.

[05:57:05] City Clerk: Council member Mattachek?

[05:57:07] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Yes.

[05:57:09] City Clerk: Council member Kameh?

[05:57:10] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: No.

[05:57:12] City Clerk: Council member Leper?

[05:57:13] Councilmember Sally Lieber: No.

[05:57:15] City Clerk: Council member show alter?

[05:57:17] Councilmember Pat Showalter: No.

[05:57:18] City Clerk: Vice Mayor Hicks?

[05:57:19] Vice Mayor Alison Hicks: No.

[05:57:21] City Clerk: May Ramirez.

[05:57:23] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: No.

[05:57:24] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Motion fails 25. Thank you. Uh, Council member show Walter.

[05:57:33] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Hey, let's try this again. I move that we adopt resolution of the city of council. of the city of Mountain View, certifying the 555 West Middlefield Road, Project Final Environmental Impact Report, adopting sequel findings related to environmental impacts, mitigation measures and alternatives and adopting a statement of overriding considerations, mitigation measures, and the mitigation, monitoring, and reporting program, to be read and entitle only, further reading waived.

[05:58:08] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Once a member show, Walter, did you also want to include the direction for staff to evaluate reduced parking? And to return with their findings in the modified traffic study?

[05:58:23] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Sure.

[05:58:30] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: We have a 2nd by council member lever. That, uh, is this motion sufficient for you to do the additional analysis or additional. RT,

[05:58:44] City Staff: can we ask for one more, um, clarification of American just, um, repeat the later portion of the motion, um, You just stated?

[05:58:58] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Sure. So my understanding was what staff also needed. In addition to certification of the EIR was direction to evaluate a reduced parking ratio or standard, um, and also update the traffic analysis associated with that, with the intent to preserve the heritage trees that, that we can preserve with, with a reduced parking standard.

[05:59:28] Unknown Speaker: Yes, this is enough. Thank you, mayor.

[05:59:31] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Well, actually, can I clarify just to, Does it include the windows and it, does it include the reduction in units?

[05:59:41] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: It does not. Okay. Any questions? Comments?

[05:59:52] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Not, then we'll have the city clerk commence the roll call.

[05:59:59] City Clerk: Council member show Walter?

[06:00:03] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Yes.

[06:00:05] City Clerk: Council member Lieber?

[06:00:06] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Hi.

[06:00:08] City Clerk: Council member Abbe Koga?

[06:00:10] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: Hey.

[06:00:11] City Clerk: Council member Kamei.

[06:00:13] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Yes.

[06:00:15] City Clerk: Council member Mattachek.

[06:00:17] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: No.

[06:00:18] City Clerk: Vice Mayor Hicks?

[06:00:20] Vice Mayor Alison Hicks: Yes.

[06:00:21] City Clerk: Mayor Ramirez.

[06:00:23] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Yes. Motion carry 6 months. Thank you. Um, I'm gonna move to continue the meeting past 10 PM. We do have some other important business we need to get to. Council member, Abby Koka?

[06:00:41] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: Um, yes, thanks for. I would, um, support, uh, continuing, although I wanted to ask staff if there was anything that was time sensitive. My thought was that we tabled the budget item. I don't think that is time sensitive, and given the hour right now, that we have 3 other items I'd like to table the budget item. But do the other two. City manager?

[06:01:08] City Manager Kimbra McCarthy: Um, I would just ask that, you can move up the, let me give you the exact number, 7.2, the appointment of, uh, the new city attorney who has been here the entire time. So I suggest that you change the order of, um, your agenda items to at least hear that item next.

[06:01:31] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: So, I don't make the substitute motion that we, um, move up that, and I'm sorry, I don't have an agenda. The city attorney item next, and then if we do we need to do Escuela tonight, if we do, we'll do that, but then to table the budget item to the next council meeting, or whenever appropriate.

[06:01:56] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: We still need to continue the continue the meeting past 10 PM to take those actions. And continue the meet. So my emotion would be to continue the meeting to take those 2 items. City manager, do you still have your hand up?

[06:02:15] City Manager Kimbra McCarthy: No.

[06:02:17] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Okay, thank you. Count them over show, Walter.

[06:02:19] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Okay.

[06:02:22] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Okay. So then we will continue the meeting, and um, postpone the midyear budget update. The clerk? Is that the roll call?

[06:02:40] City Clerk: Yep, Council member, Abby Coca?

[06:02:42] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: A

[06:02:43] City Clerk: Council member show alter?

[06:02:44] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Yes.

[06:02:45] City Clerk: Council member, May.

[06:02:47] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Yes,

[06:02:47] City Clerk: Councilman Billy Burr.

[06:02:49] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Hi.

[06:02:49] City Clerk: Councilor of Matachek?

[06:02:51] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Yes.

[06:02:52] City Clerk: Vice Mayor Hicks?

[06:02:53] Vice Mayor Alison Hicks: Yes.

[06:02:54] City Clerk: Mayor Ramirez?

[06:02:56] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Yes. Motion carries unanimously. Okay, thank you. Um, so then we'll proceed. Uh, City manager, your recommendation was to do the city attorney's appointment first, right? Okay. So then we'll move to item 7.2. Let me. Roll down to the right part of the agenda flow. Uh, human resources director, Sue Rush, will present the item. Jennifer Loeb will be available for questions. Uh, Sue. Why don't you go ahead?

[06:03:37] Human Resources Director Sue Rush: Good evening, mayor and council. The city of Mountain View connected an executive recruitment and selection process for the city attorney position. Following Christian Chopra's retirement in December of 2021. After finishing the search, council selected Jennifer Lowe to serve as city attorney. Jennifer brings more than 22 years of legal experience in both local government and private sector, including her most recent experience serving in various roles for the city of Oakland city attorney's office. Jennifer holds a jurisdoctorate degree, from Georgetown University Law Center, and a Bachelor of Arts degree from Waiter College. The purpose of this item tonight is for counsel to approve the selection of Jennifer. For the city attorney position, and authorized the mayor, or designee to execute an employment agreement with the terms stated in the city council report, and which the mayor will summarize in compliance with the Brown Act. And as we talked about just a little minute ago, Jennifer is on Zoom in the Zoom audience tonight. And I'm available to answer any council questions.

[06:04:48] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. Uh, Jennifer, thank you very much for uh, remaining with us. Um, or uh, you know, please introduce yourself and share thoughts and we'll go to the council for questions.

[06:05:03] City Attorney Jennifer Loeb: Uh, good evening or I guess I should say good morning now. Um, I am really, really excited that this day has finally come. I am, you know, of course, very honored to have been selected to serve as the next city attorney for the city of Mountain View, and, you know, I'm just really looking forward to, um, a long, successful career, working with all of you. Um, the people of the city of Mountain View, city officials, department heads and staff, um, and having a long successful career with the city of Mountain View. I'm just really happy to be here tonight and can't wait to start working with all of you.

[06:05:46] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. Would any member of the council, uh, like to ask questions. Council member come in.

[06:05:56] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: I was just gonna make the motion, but I can wait.

[06:06:02] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: public comment really quickly and then we'll come back for for deliberation. Um, so seeing no questions, uh, we'll go to the public. Would any member of the public on the line like to provide comment on this item? If so, please click the raise hand button and zoom or press star night on your phone. A timer will be displayed on the screen. I see your hand up um for Anderson. Uh, you will be the next item. So 1st we're going to uh formally appoint um our new city attorney. Uh, did you wish to speak?

[06:06:38] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Okay, you've taken your hand down. So you know members of the public? Um, I will go ahead and return to the council, uh, for emotion. Something member can make.

[06:06:50] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Great, thanks. Sorry about that. Um, so, um, can I just move the staff recommendation or do I need to read items one and two? I don't have the item up, uh, city staff.

[06:07:08] Unknown Speaker: I, I, it doesn't, oh, it looks like we do need, um, oh, no, no, there, there is no resolution. I think it's just the staff. Recommendation will be sufficient. Um, Council member Robbie Koka?

[06:07:23] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: Yes, I want, I would like the 2nd the mission and welcome, Jennifer, aboard, on board. I hope you still feel that same excitement, um, at 1230 or so this morning, but welcome aboard. Thank you.

[06:07:38] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. And I neglected to read, um, the Brown Act, uh, required statement, so I will do that now. In accordance with Brown Act requirements that city council orally report a summary of any council action on salaries, salary schedules or fringe benefits for the city, the city's council appointees, the specific recommendations to be approved by the city council regarding the appointment of the city attorney are as follows, salary of 293,000 annually. 457 deferred compensation contribution of 2%. Participation at a Calper's retirement system with the same employee cost share and employer contribution as provided to the department heads. Participation in health, retirees, health, life, and disability insurance plans, but the same employer contribution as provided to department heads, holidays, sick leave, and management leave as provided to department heads. Vacation leave in the amount of 23 days per year, increasing to 24 days after one year of service. Initial bank of 80 hour vacation and 60 hours of sick leave. So, cell phone allowance of $50 per month as provided to department heads. Eligible to request relocation, reimbursement, and a home loan through city council policy, D13, Mountain View, employee home buyer, and relocation assistance program, subject to city council approval, and availability of funds at the time of the request. In the event of termination of the employee employment agreement, 6 months of severance is provided to council appointees. Uh, and adopt uh, revised salary plans reflect a compensation change to the city attorney classification as attached to the council report. My apologies for omitting that earlier. Council member Lieber.

[06:09:20] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Thank you, Mayor. Well, I'd just like to thank, um, Ms. Rush and our, um, outside recruiter and her staff for bringing us the best of the best. This is so promising, and we are also happy to have you on board, Ms. Log. And together with our city manager. I know that we're going to be really the envy of the cities in the Bay Area. So we're very excited. Thank you so much. Council membership, will chair.

[06:09:56] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Yeah, as the other member of the recruitment team I would like to welcome you as well. And, you know, if you just watched, um, our, uh, last meeting, you'll have seen one of the more challenging deliberations that we've ever had, um, but we, uh, we, um, all sort of came to the conclusion that you were up to the challenge. So... so we're very much looking forward to working with you. And, um, and, uh, learning from you, and, uh, uh, I, uh, I hope that you, too, will have a a very happy and productive career with the city of Mountain View. Uh, that is our, um, that is our hope, and, and frankly, based on what we've learned about you, really our expectations. So welcome.

[06:10:48] City Attorney Jennifer Loeb: You, thank you so much. Yes, this is definitely not my first time up with the council at 12:30, so I am up to the challenge and really looking forward to it.

[06:10:59] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you, uh, and, uh, just as a concluding thought, I also want to thank Sue, uh, and our recruitment team, um, the members of the subcommittee who worked on this, and, uh, congratulate you and welcome you aboard, Jennifer. We very excited to work with you. Um, seeing no other members of the council with their hands up. Uh, did you want to say a final? Remarks, Jennifer, I tell you, unmute yourself.

[06:11:28] City Attorney Jennifer Loeb: I'm sorry, that was an accident. That was an accidental tap, but thank you and good luck with the rest of your agenda.

[06:11:35] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. Appreciate it. City clerk, will you commence the roll call?

[06:11:40] City Clerk: Council member Kamei?

[06:11:42] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Yes.

[06:11:43] City Clerk: Council member Abbe Coca?

[06:11:45] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: Hi,

[06:11:45] City Clerk: Council member Labor.

[06:11:47] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Hi,

[06:11:48] City Clerk: Council member Manachek.

[06:11:50] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Yes.

[06:11:50] City Clerk: Council member show Walter?

[06:11:52] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Yes.

[06:11:53] City Clerk: Nice Mayor Hicks.

[06:11:54] Vice Mayor Alison Hicks: Yes.

[06:11:55] City Clerk: Mayor Ramirez?

[06:11:56] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Yes. Motion carries unanimously. Thank you very much. Now we will, yes, welcome aboard. Um, we will now return to uh, 6.2, which is 601 to 649 Escuela Avenue and 1873 Latham Street mixed use project. Would any member, uh, would any council members like to make disclosures?

[06:12:21] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: I'll disclose that, um, I participate. I haven't met with the applicant directly, but I did participate in the community meeting in which the applicant presented.

[06:12:29] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Council member Metachek.

[06:12:33] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: I'll disclose that. I went by the property on my own.

[06:12:37] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. Thank you. Bye.

[06:12:40] Vice Mayor Alison Hicks: Yes, I visited the site as well. Thank you.

[06:12:45] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Council member of Com May.

[06:12:47] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Great. Thanks. Just want to disclose. I visited the property.

[06:12:50] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thanks. Thank you. Council member show Walter.

[06:12:53] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Also visited the property. Thank you.

[06:12:57] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Council member, I'll be cooking.

[06:12:59] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: I also visited the property, thanks.

[06:13:02] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. I'm a member labor.

[06:13:05] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Also, have visited the property.

[06:13:10] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Very good. Thank you. So then we will, uh, proceed to the, uh, staff presentation. Uh, senior planner Ellen Yao will present the item and then we will have a presentation from Kurt Anderson from Anderson Architects.

[06:13:30] Senior Planner Ellen Yao: Good evening. Good morning, actually. All right. I'm gonna share my screen. Are you able to see? Great. Thank you very much. Mayor Ramirez and city council members. This is a public hearing for proposed project at 601-649 Escuela Avenue and 1873 Latham Street. Again, my name is Ellen Yam, the project planner, and I'm joined by Stephanie Williams, planning manager. Um, the proposed project is located on the southeast corner of Escuela Avenue in Latham Street, within the 1st block, just north of El Camino Real. The project site is comprised of 2 parcels, highlighted on this map. They equal, um, about .45 acres and is currently occupied by 2 single story retail buildings on the western parcel. And on the eastern parcel is a vacant single family home. The project site is near Castro Park, and Mistral and Castro. Elementary schools. And it's surrounded generally by multi tenant commercial buildings and multifamily buildings to the north, to the west, to the south, and then, of course, the single family residents to the east. As part of the project, the applicant is requesting to incorporate the eastern parcel. To the western parcel, um, that will make it consistent with the P38 El Camino Real precise plan zoning district, from its current zoning of R3 dash 2.5 multifamily residential. Um, and also change the general plan land use from the medium density residential to mixed use corridor. This type of requests will require a general plan land use map amendment, a zoning map amendment, and a precise plan amendment. These actions typically would require a special gatekeeper authorization process, but this project qualifies for an exemption for city code. The applicant is proposing to develop a new 3 story, mixed use building with about 2400 square feet of ground floor retail space shown on the western side of the site plan, and 25 residential apartment units on the 2 floors above that. Parking is accessed off of Latham Street, shown on the top right corner. And it's located. There's at grade parking for retail and additional underground parking for residents. Open spaces provided on the ground floor, on a 2nd floor courtyard and a rooftop deck, which is oriented towards Escuela Avenue. The style of the building is contemporary and utilizes a variety of complementing materials, as you see in this picture. The ground floor retail is primarily on long Escuela, including a roofed arcade that wraps around to Latham Street, and you can see that going from right to left. And it includes a paved patio area at the intersection, which maximizes pedestrian activation. The arcade and the patio area are bordered with landscaping, in ground, and implanters, and it's going to be comprised of a diverse mix of native plantings. Additionally, the building is designed to scale to the surrounding residential uses to the east and directly to the north across Latham Street. Um, there's going to be appropriate um, high transitions, as you can see on the left hand side of this image. The project is subject to the city's current below market rate requirements of 15% and includes 4 inclusionary affordable units on site. For low and moderate income households. This project complies with the parking requirements, um, of the precise plan and provides a total of 6 to 3 parking spaces. And, uh, this is, um, it's an old commercial site, so there are no heritage removals, uh, only one existing tree that'll be removed. Um, Although the single family resident has been vacant since January 2021. The staff has continued efforts to contact the last known tenant. And as of date, staff has spoken with the family and they will continue additional discussions with the tenants, because they are interested in applying for those relocation assistant benefits of the city complied. And I want to highlight that we did receive some concerns about the location of the project driveway that is currently proposed on Latham Street. Um, shown here are, um, El Camino Real and Escuela Avenue. Um, so we reviewed the proposed plans and the limited transportation study that was completed for this project and we are supportive of the location on Latham. Um, Escuela Avenue is a high use pedestrian and bicycle corridor that connects with the transit and retail services all along El Camino Rail. So there's a higher potential for conflicts for bison pedestrians if the driveway were to be relocated on Escuela. Um, so, as you can see on this imaging with pilot, I, squuela and El Camino realize those high traffic, um, roads. Uh, this is a small project that only proposes 25 units and will add less than 10 uh, AM peak hour trips. And whenever possible. We try to locate those driveways on the more minor street, which is late them for this project instead of on the major street. Again, demarcated in the yellow. So for this project, uh, there was a virtual neighborhood meeting that was held in August 2020 where attendees express support for the project design. The project was also reviewed by the development review committee twice once in August, uh, and once in, uh, October. And recommended approval with design conditions. The environmental planning commission also held a hearing January 5th of this year, and the EPC unanimously recommended council approval of the project. So in conclusion, because the EPC recommends that the city council approve the project, um, that also includes the general plan, land use map, zoning map, and precise plan amendments. Steph is happy to answer any questions and the applicant also has a brief presentation.

[06:19:32] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. So we will now proceed to the applicant's presentation.

[06:19:46] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: You're, you're, you're muted.

[06:19:53] Kurt Anderson: Okay. Bear, can you hear me now? Mayor's for the good. Good morning, everybody. I got to tell you, I've set through a lot of these calc meetings. And that last, that last, hearing Yale went through it, that was quite interesting. So I applaud your stamina. I plot all the great comments y'all had. It was very, very interesting. Just build is much simpler. We're talking 25 units. We're talking no heritageries. We're not talking, we don't mean real location, we got to worry about. There's nobody on site. It's on the corner. So it's pretty straightforward. So, um, can I get it? Do I just, and before I start, I want to share with the with the council. How great the staff has been through this whole process. Ella has been great. It's been a real joy to work with plenty of staff complying with this project at this point. It's been a long time. We went through a lot of signed tweaks. I think Ellen's my, uh, are you my 4th planner or my third? I don't remember, but quite a few down, but they've been great to work with and I really appreciate the fact we're finally here. So, Ellen, how do I get to get my screen up?

[06:21:03] Senior Planner Ellen Yao: I believe there's a share screen option that you're able to see

[06:21:06] Kurt Anderson: that? That green guy? Okay, here we go.

[06:21:08] Senior Planner Ellen Yao: Perfect.

[06:21:10] Kurt Anderson: Okay, so you should be, I'll be able to see my, can you see my screen number one?

[06:21:16] Senior Planner Ellen Yao: No.

[06:21:17] Kurt Anderson: Oh, you know what? Because I got hit the shirt button. There we go. It's a little late, guys. Not quite with 100%. Okay, so, um, so here's the cover sheet, as y'all can see. This is the image you just saw when you 1st started. So I'm gonna I'm gonna scroll through these pretty quick. Um, Like, look, pretty straightforward, you saw the site plan that Ellen had presented. So this is Latham. This is Kuala, the driveway access to at great parking for the commercial, and the residential below is right here. So we have commercial on the corner with some outdoor space. We've opened all this, so this tennis space could actually be designed, uh, to, uh, accommodate 34 tenants. This is what the building looks like from a 3D. Again, this is a squail of Latham here. This is length on this side. This is the corner view. You can see how we've opened up this whole corner to the commercial look here because you've got commercial on this side here and across the street. This is another at ground view there. Um, This is the roof deck from up above. We put the major activity on the squad side away from the single family homes here. That was part of the design process. It was great suggestion by staff. We've made those changes. This is the lower parking. You see that, this is the, uh, above, you come in here off of Latham, and you come here and put down to this rent. And interesting, you were talking about stackers, we're using stackers. Now, if you want, I've got a 32nd video I can show you how this works, if you're interested. But these things are basically on call. You call your phone and it delivers your card to the girl to pick up. So there's uh, Ed Grade again, there's our commercial space. We've provided access all longer that we can open this up for some maybe some small restaurant type facilities, not just all depends. Um, so that's the 1st floor. Here's the 2nd floor. We got a nice courtyard here on the 2nd, but this is with the sun orientation from the south. So we have a nice space during the day for the, for kids, it's a quiet area. And then we have 2 floors of units. And then we've got, this is our roof deck. And this shows that we're the barbecue cover here. This is a squail assigner. This is Latham. This is the building is, you can see this on property lights, so the building completely terraces away from, Let me get to that section. Here's a, this is actually, you can see right here. This is this is a single family side. Here's the apartments, this is Escuela. Here's Latham. You can see how we design this building to tear away from the proper life for the design requirements. Here's that roof depth we talked about. Here's that 2nd floor courtyard right in here. So, um, I've got, these are the elevations. Those are the surrounding commercial across the street, permits behind it. Um, let me see if it gets another shot, you can see it. Here's what I was talking about. So here's that 45 degree angle that's required from a design standpoint. So this is Latham, so you can see how we really stepped this building away from the single family that we're very, sits into the private space on that, on that single family home. Apartments are behind commercials on this side, and also that way. Um, So we work really close with staff on the design. Here's a cross-section building, and you can idea, here's how the stackers are. You can see their your combination with a pit. So the good thing about this is we're not asking for any parking reductions. We're not asking for anything. We're just, we've designed it to meet all the, all the codes that were very close with staff. I know it's a very quick, brief presentation, but in respect to how long you've been working tonight. I want to keep it really short and sweet. So I'm available for questions. And if, uh, if not, I respectfully request you, approve this project, we can probably start going forward.

[06:25:10] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you, uh, staff and applicant for your presentations. Would any member of the council like to ask any questions? Council member show Alter? Yes,

[06:25:26] Councilmember Pat Showalter: um, I was wondering, what are the existing, um, tenants there now, the businesses and, um, uh, What are the existing businesses now?

[06:25:37] Kurt Anderson: You know what? I sent a list to Ellen, and I, for the, I can't recall the tennis, but we're about half full. Uh, they've been on it. They got a real tough time through COVID, so the owner of the project has been working very close with them, letting them know what's going on. So we've been working with them on, uh, whether or not they're going to stay. Obviously they have 1st right to come back in the building. But the building is basically Apple right now. And I think we have, LL, try and fly. Do you have that list handy, Ellen?

[06:26:05] Senior Planner Ellen Yao: Yeah, so I've been muted myself. So the existing commercial building has about 9 tenant spaces and 3 of them are currently vacant. Um, It includes various, uh, small stores. So there's tax services, there's a party store, um, pink star aesthetics and herbal life, and then, um, a little gift store called joyurea.

[06:26:30] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Okay. Well, I just, you know, I wanted to put in a plug for continuing those, um, uh, those, um, uh, businesses. I understand in particular the, the tax and the, um, and the little sort of grocery store kind of thing are very, very important parts of the community. So, thank you. Those are my questions.

[06:26:50] Kurt Anderson: Yeah, well, we're really hoping that they're gonna come back. I mean, that's where we'll, you know, we've got a long process where we start construction, so we'll see how that works out.

[06:26:58] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Good. Okay. Thank you. Council member labor.

[06:27:06] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Thank you mayor. Um, I'm sort of looking for, um, the interface between this, so there's, there was the mini mall. And then the single family home that the family has left, and a very wide driveway, and then there was, there's another single family, and then there's an apartment house. So that single family home that's gonna stay there on the other side of the wide driveway. Um, I'm struggling with the, the 2 pieces of the building that looked like kind of like white boxes.

[06:27:46] Kurt Anderson: Oh, would you like me to do that elevation? Do you want to see that from outside?

[06:27:50] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Yeah.

[06:27:52] Kurt Anderson: Let's see if I've got that. This, that would be this side right here. Let me slide this over, so you can see a little better. So this is.

[06:28:00] Councilmember Sally Lieber: And I think at the beginning of your presentation, you hit a more realistic shot of it.

[06:28:06] Kurt Anderson: Do you want to see from a three-dimensional? Is that what you're looking for? I can do that. Let's see. There we go. This one right here.

[06:28:27] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Correct. Yeah, so, um, what's inside the, the white boxes? Is that part of the garage?

[06:28:37] Kurt Anderson: Yes, this is the this is the ground parking for the commercial. So this is parking. The parking goes all the way over to here. So we have a several foot fence, landscape buffer, parking, and then the building is set back here because of what's required for planning. And then we have parking here, driveway, and then we have a couple parking spaces adjacent to the building in this area. We also have, this is where our trash enclosure is, and all our electrical service on that side.

[06:29:06] Councilmember Sally Lieber: And have conversations been held with the people that live in that single family home that's gonna stay?

[06:29:13] Kurt Anderson: Um, I believe that they were part of the community be, but we, we did not meet with them on a, on a one to one. Okay. Um.

[06:29:25] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Yeah, the concern that I would have, um, is, uh, You know, this is gonna be a big difference for them. They used to be next to another single family home. And now there will be garages in the sky. Um, and it's a it's a big difference. Maybe they'll be here in the public comment, just to speak up for themselves, but, um, yeah, that's a question that I would have. And then also a question for staff. On the family that was living in the house on site. Um, do they have a period of time where they can, um, come forward for relocation?

[06:30:14] Senior Planner Ellen Yao: You for the question. Uh, yes. So right now we're actually in the discussions with them and providing that benefit available to them. Okay.

[06:30:29] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. Vice Mayor Hicks.

[06:30:33] Vice Mayor Alison Hicks: My questions and concerns are regarding the circulation, particularly the pedestrian circulation around the site. Um, this coincidentally, my kids went to school at the adjacent school, and we've gotten a couple of, um, gotten a couple of comments from school board members regarding the number of students that, um, that walked to this school, and, you know, I've seen that personally. And the, um, the largest number... It was kind of odd for me to read in the staff report that, uh, the driveway had to be on Latham, because so many people were gonna, students were gonna be coming down, um, Escuela, because, as far as I know, no students come from El Camino and walked down Escuela, and then over on Latham, I think the school board members are right. The direction the students come from is they are either crossing Latham or coming up Escuela, which is not really a part of this project. Um, and then turning left at Latham. So, I'm wondering if there's a way to make it safer for those students circulating around there. It could be, um, I imagine we're, or that we're doing additional sidewalk improvement, because the sidewalks are really pretty substandard here, there. Yeah, like minimum.

[06:32:06] Kurt Anderson: That's correct. You can see it right here. We're redoing all the sidewalk here. This is, and this is being where we're doing some whitening here. Um, and we've got, you know, our line of sight that's required by the driveway by public works. So it's very safe when you pull out, so there's a lot of visibility there. Um, and um, Ellen, you want to talk about this, uh, this sidewalk right here.

[06:32:31] Senior Planner Ellen Yao: Thank you for your comment, Vice Mayor. So, I want to clarify there that the current site right now has a detached sidewalk on both Escuela and Latham, which means the sidewalk attached sidewalk. So it's directly right next to the street. I know most of the council has also been to the site's aware that the situation is a pretty tight walking area. Um, I know you mentioned specifically about students. So part of the site improvement is to evaluate the student access, but then also just general pedestrian as well. And so, Escuela is designed to be a, um, major corridor for pedestrians and connections to El Camino Real. And so, you know, we are doing those straight improvements on Escuela and Latham, um, to improve that sidewalk, um, experience. So right now in Escuela, the design is there, it's going to be a detached sidewalk, so there'll be landscaping from the curb, sidewalk and then additional landscaping. And on Latham, uh, it's going to be attached sidewalk and at the corner of the intersection, it's about 5 feet wide, but it gets wider as you go towards a single family home. That's allowed for enough clearance for the driveway. Even though you're stating that there are students that walk there. Um, the pedestrian experience is, uh, improved and uh, it does ensure that the vehicler access, uh, has clear visibility.

[06:33:55] Vice Mayor Alison Hicks: So, honestly, a bulb boat going, um, from on the sidewalk towards, yeah, there, towards... I'm wondering if there can be a bulb out. I'm a bulb out in the other direction, crossing Latham as well, so that people can... My, my concern is that students cross, they probably want to avoid the driveway, and cross over to, uh, the... They're gonna want to pull over. Yeah, as soon as safely as possible. So I'm wondering if there can be any, if the bulb belt can go in that direction. And I also have concerns about just a 5 foot sidewalk. which is minimal, where there are a lot of students, you know, walking. I think that I read that village centers were supposed to have 7 foot sidewalks. So any comments around further improving the safety for the number of students walking around there. is, um, is of interest to me.

[06:34:58] Kurt Anderson: Uh, Eleanor and I have actually talked about that, uh, particular item about the wicked sidewalk, and I've let her know that.

[06:35:05] Senior Planner Ellen Yao: Ah, and I can talk to that as well.

[06:35:08] Vice Mayor Alison Hicks: Oh, thank you. Go ahead.

[06:35:09] Senior Planner Ellen Yao: Yeah. Um, Specifically right at that corner, there is a kind of a patio area, so it's actually more than 5 feet, the 5 feet is just for the portion that's a long Escuela on that building frontage. That's to ensure that the commercial space does have that direct access to activate that frontage. Uh, we also have, um, Don Cameron, who's available from public works to provide a little bit more information on the bulb out portion. That was a comment that came up during EPC as well. Um, so I'll pass it along to her.

[06:35:44] Public Works Director Don Cameron: Okay. Good evening, mayor, and council members, uh, vice mayor Hicks. So yes, we were aware that, um, there may be a desire to have the ball bat, as you're saying, also extend into the Leyton side, and a little more feasibility analysis will have to be done to see if that can happen. So we are planning to finalize the design of the ball bout of this corner during the review of the offsite improvement plans, and it is something public works is going to look at, uh, more specifically during the actual permitting phase as we look at the design and see how feasible it is to, um, modify that bout to also extend out to late them. But Vice mayor, you're muted.

[06:36:34] Vice Mayor Alison Hicks: Thank you. So I guess improvements and then improvements to the adjacent property. Do those happen when development happens there or when there's an overall capital improvement project? Um, how is that? Because I'm concerned about safe pedestrian safety and comfort in that area.

[06:36:59] Don Cameron: Okay, yes. So I'll mention that the, um, we'll continue the ball bouts, and then we can talk about the sidewalks. The ball bouts on the opposite corners of Escuela and Latham, um, that is, um, let me get my directions right. I think we're talking southwest and northwest corners, are actually going to be built as part of the Gamma Way project that you previously approved. So we'll be able to get those 3 corners taken care of. The 4th corner will need to wait until something happens with that development on that site. Uh, it, it would not be a feasible site for staff to go in and just do it on our own because of the current driveway and configuration of that building. In terms of extending sidewalk, making improvements beyond this building frontage. Those really are the 2 possibilities, um, usually our greatest opportunity is when a redevelopment happens because then we can work with the development, um, to, if we need a little more easement, something like that to happen to provide the the sidewalk experience and design that we'd like to see. But there are times where we can go in as a capital project and do some of the work ourselves if the right away exists, and it's feasible to do so.

[06:38:19] Vice Mayor Alison Hicks: Okay, okay, thank you, because there are a tremendous number of pedestrians also going over to the 7-Eleven and then also going over to the school. So, thank you.

[06:38:31] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you, Council member Medichek.

[06:38:34] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Thanks. So, um, if I heard correctly or read correctly, there are 9 existing, uh, spaces for businesses, and, um, 3 of them are empty, and you're hoping that 6 come to the new development. But the amount of commercial space goes from 6075 to 2400. Is that correct? So is there space for all 6 of them?

[06:39:14] Kurt Anderson: Most likely not. I mean, we have this, this year is uh, it's approximately 2300 square feet in this area right here. So, no, we are not replacing it in kind. Um,

[06:39:30] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: You know, in some areas in the village center, there are requirements for a minimum amount of commercial space. I take it that's not the case here.

[06:39:42] Ellen Yau: I'll respond to that. And I think that was also Vice Mayor Hicks' question. Uh, this site is not in a, it's not a neighborhood corner or a village center. It's a low intensity corridor.

[06:39:54] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Oh, sorry, I was probably doing calculations when she asked that question.

[06:39:58] Ellen Yau: Oh, I actually didn't get a chance to respond to that, so.

[06:40:01] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Oh, okay. Um, well, it's kind of um, concerning to me that there isn't enough space for all the businesses. Um, what are we doing to help them if they want to return?

[06:40:17] Kurt Anderson: That's a good question. I don't have that answer. That hasn't been discussed with my client. So, um, She's the one that's gonna have the dialogue with those tenants. So I don't know what kind of, um, Uh, what is there, is there interest? I do know that they've had a incredibly difficult time through COVID. She's had to help me with the rent and in fact, collect no rents, but we all know that a new building that rents can be more expensive. So I just, I don't have an answer. Okay. So I just, but you can, you can see that this, this, all this here, this is all this is all the parking for the commercial. So we're parking it per the requirements. We're not asking for a reduction of the parking. So it really minimizes how much how much land we can. I mean, how much of 4 area commercial we could go the 1st floor. Because of the drive. Parking here, parking access to the driveway below. So I don't have a whole lot of land to work with. By the time I put the elevators in the lobbies and the support area with the trash and everything else. So.

[06:41:19] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: So, um, you mentioned the stackers, and there's multiple types of stackers. Um, I am interested in seeing what kind these are.

[06:41:27] Kurt Anderson: Uh, these are Klaus. So I don't know if you're familiar with class. Um, but...

[06:41:33] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: So I'm familiar with like puzzle lifts. Okay.

[06:41:37] Kurt Anderson: Okay, so, uh, you can see this on my screen. So this is the system. And, uh, if you want to, it's about 30 seconds. I can run it if you like.

[06:41:48] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Well, I'm interested. In seeing it, yes.

[06:41:50] Kurt Anderson: All right. So it's very clever. It's all done with your phone. So it's all automatic. You leave your apartment, you call your car up, and then it comes around and delivers your car out to your work out, or you pick it up in the, on the air in the 1st floor. So it's, uh, Klass has been building these things. They've got them in 50 countries are all around the world. They're a very, very reputable company. And in fact, we're using them on a couple of projects that we're currently working on in San Jose. Um, It's a very, very good system. I've been, I've looked at 4 or 5 year of these facilities. I've been Berkeley. They use a lot up in the Berkeley area. So, um, they're they're great. I mean, they're very, very selected. It does not take very long to get your car. is a very quick thrower.

[06:42:41] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Sorry, does the driver drive into the lift? on the range doesn't work?

[06:42:46] Kurt Anderson: No, hold on a second. Let me get back here.

[06:42:53] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Does the driver drive the car into the list?

[06:42:56] Kurt Anderson: Yes, the driver drives it. The driver drives in, gets out, walks out. So the stall's wide enough? And here is the best thing about these things. They're all pre-wired, so each one of these are EV spaces. Which is fantastic, because that's, you know, that's where we're going with, with her requirements. So I've got a whole bunch of EVs faces in this project. Which is a way view always required. So that's a beauty of use of the system.

[06:43:22] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Okay, great. Thank you.

[06:43:23] Kurt Anderson: welcome.

[06:43:27] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. Um, I don't see any other hands, so we will move to public comment. Uh, would any member of the public on the line like to provide comment on this item? If so, please click the raise, hand button and zoom, or press star 9 on your phone, a timer will be displayed on the screen. Um, let's go with 2 minutes due to the late hour. Uh, Bruce England, you are first.

[06:44:00] Bruce England: Thank you, mayor. Um, speaking for Mountain View Coalition for Sustainable Planning, this is Bruce England. And um, We're in favor of this project. We had conversations with Mr. Anderson. They came to one of our meetings to talk with us about it, so we appreciate that. Um, I have a question about the stackers, which is in the event of power failures or some kind of backup power system that keeps that live. So people aren't stranded. But my comments have to do with, um, not the project itself, but the, um, pedestrian bicycle experience up and down of Scuela. There's a long-standing project called uh, California Squalish Shoreline. That seems to just not be going anywhere. And yet there's an opportunity here to do a lot of public works work along there. Um, because of the disruption from this project in the Gaml Way project. And it would be great if that extra bulldog could be put in, and sidewalk improvements could be made. Um, one thing that I've noticed, I go through there all the time myself. And there are a lot of young kids, parents with young kids and strollers and kids learning how to ride bikes and things along there. And the better the sidewalks are for that kind of pedestrian traffic, the better. Um, but it looks like a great project. And we support it. Thank you.

[06:45:28] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. The next speaker is Tim McKenzie.

[06:45:33] Tim McKenzie: It's a real barn burner tonight. Yay, housing, yay, below market rate units. Great to see. Looking forward to seeing it go through.

[06:45:46] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. The next speaker is Alex Gutierrez.

[06:45:52] Alex Gutierrez: Thank you very much, Mayor Ramirez. I was disturbed earlier today to hear, uh, council member suggests that Mountain View could afford to be choosy about approving affordable housing in light of our even more NIMD neighbors to the north. I encourage our elected officials to rest on their laurels after housing is affordable to our teachers, nurses, grocers, et cetera. And not before that. This is another project that is a step in that right direction, and I strongly approve of the direction of comments. That is towards better pedestrian access, better bike access, the safety of the kids. Other than that, the project could be as, couldn't be any better. From my perspective. Thank you.

[06:46:36] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. And the final speaker is Amy.

[06:46:44] Amy: Hi. Hi, I'm can you hear me? This is Amy.

[06:46:48] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: We can hear you.

[06:46:49] Amy: Okay, great. So, um, so I'm calling, I've been listening. I went to the EPC meeting and I've been listening to this and, um, the project sounds, you know, promising, um, Um, but I wanted to let you know that I'm, I'm very concerned about the bullbot idea. It sounds all pretty, and I know that EPC lady had a lovely chart, showing what it looks like, but the problem with that is that anything that narrows, the streets at all, on Latham or Escuela, is gonna be a very bad idea, because we already have that gamma way project that impacts Escuela, and the streets, in either direction, because of the school, and also, people trying to get from, uh, the housing in, um, an area over to El Camino or the freeways. It's already clogs up a lot of times during the day. So that's just gonna make the street impassable. And, um, and, you know, it basically, unusable. So, if you want to, you know, do something to make the sidewalks lovely, do work with that, that's great, but a bullbout is a really ill advised idea. And it's just gonna make this street and the area way more burdensome for the people that live there. I've noticed multiple times a day, bicycles, cars, they get logged up and stuck on those intersections. And, um, doing a sexy bowl about, and reducing the width of the streets, either on Lake, or on Escuela is just a really, really bad idea. And so I'm really, really a jet to it. And I really hope you reconsider. Thank you.

[06:48:29] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you for your comments. Being no other public speakers, we will return to the council for deliberation, and a motion is in order. Cous member show, Walter.

[06:48:48] Councilmember Pat Showalter: We received um a letter today from Devin Connolly, who's the president of the school district. Um, basically saying that she was really very upset at the prospect of having this driveway come out onto Latham. And, um, you know, I have to say that her argument seemed reasonable to me, especially the idea that Latham is a bike boulevard. And I know, and it's not a very wise street. And I know, you know, when I went there and visited, I could see that Latham is, you know, it isn't very wide. Of course, improving the sidewalks will be a big deal. Um, uh, on the other hand, I know that Escuela essentially takes traffic at, um... Traffic moves much more quickly on a Scuela than it does Latham. Latham, because it's narrow and people go slower on it. So... so I just wanted to... to hear a little bit about that, and, um, and also, when I was thinking about the way traffic patterns went on it with kids, I was thinking that they're either going to the front of the school, um, in which case, they're probably not going by this, this block on Latham at all. because they'll be coming from other directions, or they're going to the back of the school. And if they're going to the back of the school, I think, primarily, they would be on the other side of Latham, um, that wouldn't be on this side of Latham. So I just wanted... I would like to hear from Dawn or Ellen, or somebody who's more familiar with the traffic patterns there. Um, 'cause I, I have to say, I, this is not my, someplace I, I go very, very frequently. Is that the case that this is sort of a block where, in fact, there isn't that much, um, uh, elementary school traffic? Food travel.

[06:50:46] Don Cameron: Uh, so thank you for the question, customer show, Walter, Don Cameron, Public Works director. So as senior planner Yao mentioned in her presentation, staff does feel that the driveway location on Latham is preferred over Escuela. For some for some of the key reasons that you mentioned. First off, um, to just put it in context. Right, the projected total driveway counts during the AMP power, peak hour while, you know, school traffic is in session. The total counts for that using that driveway is supposed to be 15 trips. There's already a driveway for this site on both Latham and Escuela that has 2 driveways. So it already has trips it's generating. So the actual net new trips is only 8 trips during the AMP hour that's going in and out of this driveway. The driveway has been carefully designed between the bulb out, red curb to preserve the site triangle, is to ensure that as drivers are going in and out, well, mostly out of the driveways where you have the primary concern, they have very clear visibility all the way to the corner, practically, of anybody that may be on the sidewalk and can see it. The reason that it really is preferred beyond Latham as more the minor street with the much lower, and I mean, much lower traffic volumes. As well as lower speeds. is, is that, um, it's also a case that, although you may have some school traffic pedestrians on, on, on like them, you're right, they're more likely to focus being on the side of the street, where the school's at, but if they're having to walk past here, we do know that we also have very high pedestrian demand and bicycle demand on Escuela between Latham and El Camino Rio. And that's because of all the services on El Camino Real, the transit, in general, this whole area, tends to have less automobile ownership, so they are more transit dependent. And having the driveway off of Escuela, with the higher, much higher traffic volumes, the higher traffic speeds. can create more conflicts for the pedestrians and for the cars as they're going in and out of the driveways and can create just general more conflict in that area. And also, if they have a conflict, it's more dangerous if they're going at a higher speed.

[06:53:21] Unknown Speaker: That's it. That's it, exactly.

[06:53:23] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Okay. All right. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Thank you.

[06:53:31] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Any other questions or comments? Um, and I should have read this earlier, but uh, a motion to approve the staff recommendation should also include reading the title of the resolutions and the ordinance attached to the report. Uh, and that's listed in the staff report and also in the agenda flow. Council member, I'll go to Council member Leeber since you've just spoken.

[06:54:03] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Yeah, I just have a last question for staff. Um, The people that live in the house that's going to remain next door. Were they, would they have been noticed about this?

[06:54:17] Unknown Speaker: Yeah, yeah, they're within the radius.rect. Is there, like, do we know if there's a tenant there? Did the owner and the tenant receive it or Somebody received it? Yeah, we did do noticing based off our requirements. I can take a look to see if it was specifically a tenant or property owner if you'd like me to do that.

[06:54:42] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Well, just, I want to make sure that someone, someone saw something about this because it's a pretty big change, and there would be signage that says that a development is coming.

[06:54:54] Unknown Speaker: Correct. Yeah, the signage has been up and this project has been going on for a little bit longer, so it has been visible for quite some time.

[06:55:02] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Okay. Council member show vaulture.

[06:55:09] Councilmember Pat Showalter: I'll just go ahead with some motion. Um, I, uh, uh, move the staff report that we adopt the initial study, mitigated neck declaration and mitigation monitoring, or report, reporting program for the Escuela Avenue Mixed Use Project, pursuant to the California Environmental Quality Act, 2, that we adopt a resolution of the City Council of the City of Mountain View, amending the General Plan Land Use Map for median density. Am I reading the right one? Yeah, medium tensity to mix 2's corridor, or the property located at 1873 Latham Street, to be read and title only, further reading waived. Three, introduce an ordinance of the city of Mountain View, amending the zoning Mac from the R3, to, um, dash 2.5 multifamily residential zoning district, to P38 El Camino precise plan, for the property located at 1873 Latham Street, to be read entitled only, further reading waived, and set a 2nd reading for March 8, 2022. And four, adopt a resolution of the city council, the city of Mountain View, amending the El Camino Real precise plan to incorporate the property at 1873 Latham Street, within the plan area, to be read entitled only further reading waived. Oh, there's a good point. Recommend the city council adopt a resolution of the city, of Mountain View, conditionally approving a planned community permit and a development review permit to construct a new 3 story mixed juice residential project consisting of 25 apartment units, 2400 square feet of ground 4 commercial, and one level of underground parking, and a provisional use permit for rooftop amenities above the 3rd floor, located at 601 dash 649 Escuela Avenue, and 187 Latham Street.

[06:57:05] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. Bye, Smur Hick.

[06:57:08] Vice Mayor Alison Hicks: Uh, 2nd that.

[06:57:11] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you very much. Council member met a check.

[06:57:15] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Thanks. Um, I'll support the motion, but I just wanted to request that um, we have our economic vitality group reach out to the businesses. Um, because I am concerned that there's not enough space for all of them, and if they want to stay in Mountain View, I'd sure like them to be able to do that. And they might need some help from the city.

[06:57:37] Unknown Speaker: Uh, council member, um, that's already in the works. We have, um, we are planning to reach out to the businesses.

[06:57:44] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate that.

[06:57:50] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Very good. Any other questions? Or comments. If not, we do have a motion for the staff recommendation. Uh, made by, uh, council member, show alter. Um, and. Uh, so unfortunately, I see if there's a public speaker, unfortunately, we've already closed the public comment period. Apologize. Um, If there are no further questions, then uh, I'll ask the city clerk to commence the vocal.

[06:58:20] Unknown Speaker: Council member shall open.

[06:58:24] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Yes.

[06:58:25] Unknown Speaker: Nice, Mayor Hicks.

[06:58:26] Vice Mayor Alison Hicks: Yes.

[06:58:28] Unknown Speaker: Council member Abbe Compa?

[06:58:30] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: I.

[06:58:30] Unknown Speaker: Council member to May.

[06:58:32] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Yes.

[06:58:33] Unknown Speaker: Council member Lieber?

[06:58:35] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Uh,

[06:58:35] Unknown Speaker: Counselor Mamatachek? Mayor Ramirez?

[06:58:40] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Yes.

[06:58:41] Unknown Speaker: Ocean Carries, unanimously.

[06:58:45] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. And we have continued item 7.one, 28.

[06:58:50] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you, everybody..

[06:58:51] Unknown Speaker: Thank you.

[06:58:53] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Appreciate it. Thank you, Ellen. Have a good night.

[06:58:57] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: You too.

[06:58:59] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Uh, all right, so that brings us to item 8 council staff committee reports. Are there any?

[06:59:10] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Council member labor.

[06:59:12] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Thank you, mayor. I'm going to keep this very brief, um, but it is time sensitive, and I'd like to ask if we could have a straw poll, um, referring the, uh, issue of, um, natural gas usage, uh, to the sustainability, um, subcommittee we recently heard, uh, about, uh, actions on the part of Los Altos Hills and other cities to plan for, uh, a 2045, um, stoppage of the service of natural gas and the sustainability subcommittee will be, um, will be meeting and, uh, uh, I'd like to, um, refer this to them so that there's the, the opening to grapple with that.

[07:00:00] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Okay, that is a non-trivial recommendation. Let's 1st turn to city staff, if that's okay, city manager.

[07:00:10] City Manager Kimbra McCarthy: Thank you, mayor. So, um, I did talk to staff about this, and the other items that are on the agenda, and, um, if counsel is interested in adding this, we would need to move the sustainability committee meeting back a little bit later, so they would have time to do the analysis on this, and then I believe there are a couple other items that they're already working on for that committee as well. Um, so the median will likely have to go in April. Not likely it would need to go in April.

[07:00:46] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. Council member, Abby Koka, you wanted to speak to the side?

[07:00:49] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: Yes, thank you, Air. So, um, I'm on the committee and um, actually had written to staff. Um, I, I, I recently, um, had a presentation by the clean SVCE staff. We're looking at reach codes 2.0. Um, this idea of um, stopping natural gas is actually one of several items that, um, SVCE staff is presented as, um, you know, options that we can look at exploring. And so, um, I had asked staff if we could have the SVCE staff present, do a presentation to the committee, go through the, you know, different various different options, and then figure out what would work best for our community. So, um, that was my preference and, and, um, addressing this issue under the reach codes 2.0 overall bigger item.

[07:01:53] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: So, just to clarify, uh, city manager, was that already programmed into the sustainability subcommittee's work plan or would we also have to? refer that item. uh for the, the com- committee to, to have that presentation.

[07:02:14] City Manager Kimbra McCarthy: Yes, I think that, that, so we were aware of that, and Silicon Valley, um, Clean Energy had already been doing briefings with staff on this, so this, this has been on their radar. Um, those items would need to be referred, and I would prefer to talk to staff 1st just with all of the items that they're doing just in terms of the timing of it all. I would need to touch base with them first.

[07:02:39] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Okay. Um, any additional comments on this? suggestion. Council member Libra, you have your hand up.

[07:02:52] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Well, a question for staff, when would the next meeting of the sustainability subcommittee be happening?

[07:03:04] City Manager Kimbra McCarthy: It wouldn't be any earlier than April. Because staff has to have time to research all of this.

[07:03:12] Councilmember Sally Lieber: So the the upcoming meeting after the next one that's upcoming, when would the next one after that be?

[07:03:21] City Manager Kimbra McCarthy: I'm not sure yet. I would need to talk to staff about timing for that. Um, I do not know. I need to get back to you on that. I don't think that they would have it a month later. So the median that's currently scheduled for March would need to be postponed to April if we're adding 2 more items. And then we'd have to get back to council on when the next meeting after the April meeting would be.

[07:03:46] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Okay, so we did have a request for, you know, Councilman Robbie Koki. technically your quest was, was, it included that item, but it was, um, some additional, um, items for consideration as well. Um, did you, did you want to seek the council's, um, or in referring that to the subcommittee as well, or is that?

[07:04:22] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: Um, I mean, I guess if we have to. I get, my understanding in past practice is that, you know, the, our committees can usually, and the chair committee chairs can usually work with staff to decide what gets agendaized. And so I don't think this needs to come to, at this time, we need a straw, vote for it. The request is already in. Um, I would ask the chair. I think it's vice mayor Hicks to talk to staff and figure out when would be the best opportunity to bring items up to the committee.

[07:04:55] Vice Mayor Alison Hicks: Yeah, I can do that if that's the best, if that's the best way forward. I can just talk to staff.

[07:05:02] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Okay, Captain member Liber, are you comfortable with that?

[07:05:05] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Um, yes, very comfortable, and I think that the community members who came forward to request it, we'll be comfortable with that as well.

[07:05:14] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Okay, very good. Thank you. Council member Mediche.

[07:05:18] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Thanks. I just want to report that I participated in a meeting of the Santa Clara County Airport Land use commission meeting since the last time we met. Thanks.

[07:05:28] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. Um, I don't have a formal report other than a kind, well wisher left this for me in my uh, city council, uh, mail slot, whatever you want to call it. Um as you can tell, I have not had a chance to read the entire thing. But I'm, uh, making some good progress and I wish I had been able to finish it before this meeting. I am committing to all of you that I will finish it before the next meeting.

[07:05:57] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Um, seeing no other hands, uh, we'll move to item 9, close session report, interim city, attorney Quinn. Do you have a closed session report?

[07:06:08] Interim City Attorney Quinn: I do not have a closed session report this morning.

[07:06:13] Mayor Lucas Ramirez: very much. So, we'll move to item 10, Jordan, and thank you so much for joining us and our next city council meeting will be held on February 22nd, 2022. Until then, stay healthy and this meeting is adjourned at 135 AM. Take care everybody.

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