May 25, 2021 Joint Meeting of Mountain View City Council and Shoreline Regional Park Community

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[00:00:27] (archive recording) Mayor Ellen Kamei: I'm going to read the usual announcement as required. This meeting will be conducted in accordance with the state of California, executive order, n dash 29 dash 20, dated March 17, 2020. All members of the city council are participating in this meeting by video conference, with no physical meeting location. Members of the public wishing to observe the meeting live may do so at mountain view.legistar.com. On YouTube at mountain view.gov slash YouTube, and on Comcast channel 26. As noted on the meeting agenda, members of the public may provide oral public comments during the public comment period for the item by signing up at mountainview.gov slash cc underscore speakers or by phone by dialing 669-9009128. And entering webinar ID 937 02047911. Any emails received by 430 p.m. today were received directly by the city council. All votes will be taken by roll call vote. City Attorney Chapo will make remarks, and then the city council welcomes public comment on the item listed for close session. City attorney Chopra.

[00:01:43] (archive recording) City Attorney Krishan Chopra: Thank you, mayor. This city council will meet on one item in closed session, item 2.one, conference with labor negotiators, government code section 54957.6. Agency designated representatives, city of Mountain View Assistant City Manager, Audrey Seymour Ramberg, Human Resources Director, Sue Rush, and Charles Sukai, Young, and Wong, LLP, Employee Organizations, Service Employees International Union, SCIU, Local 521, the Eagles Association, the Police Officers Association, POA, the International Association of Firefighters, IAFF Local 1966 Unrepresented fire managers, unrepresented police managers, unrepresented department heads and council appointees, unrepresented confidential employees, and unrepresented hourly employees. Now would be the time to check if there is any public comment for this item. Thank you.

[00:02:47] (archive recording) Mayor Ellen Kamei: Would any member of the public on the line like to provide public comment on any closed session item listed on tonight's agenda? If so, please click the raise hand button in Zoom or press star 9 on your phone. We'll display a timer on the screen, but I'm not seeing any attendees and city clerk glazers. Is there anyone on the line that you know? All right. So then the council will now recess to close session and return to this meeting at 5.30 PM for the study session. So you went by 30.

[00:14:28] (archive recording) Mayor Ellen Kamei: Our study session for May 25th, 2021. I'm gonna read the usual announcement as required. This meeting will be conducted in accordance with the state of California executive order end dash 29 dash 20. Dated March 17th, 2020. All members of the city council are participating in this meeting by video conference, with no physical meeting location. Members of the public wishing to observe the meeting live, may do so at Mountain View.legistar.com, on YouTube at Mountain View.gov slash YouTube, and on Comcast Channel 26. As noted on the meeting agenda, members of the public may provide oral public comments during the public comment period for the item by signing up at Mountain View.gov slash CC underscore speakers or by phone by dialing 669-9009128. And entering webinar ID 93702047911. Any emails received by 430 p.m. today or received directly by the city council. All votes will be taken by roll call vote. City Quickly, sir, can we do a roll call, please?

[00:15:40] (archive recording) City Clerk Heather Glaser: Council member at Mikoka,

[00:15:41] (archive recording) Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: here,

[00:15:42] (archive recording) City Clerk Heather Glaser: Council member Hicks.

[00:15:44] (archive recording) Councilmember Alison Hicks: Here,

[00:15:45] (archive recording) City Clerk Heather Glaser: Council member Lemur?

[00:15:46] (archive recording) Councilmember Sally Lieber: Here.

[00:15:47] (archive recording) City Clerk Heather Glaser: Councilman by Manachek,

[00:15:49] (archive recording) Councilmember Lisa Matichak: here,

[00:15:49] (archive recording) City Clerk Heather Glaser: Councilman Marshall Alter,

[00:15:51] (archive recording) Councilmember Pat Showalter: here,

[00:15:52] (archive recording) City Clerk Heather Glaser: Vice Mayor Ramirez.

[00:15:54] (archive recording) Vice Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Here.

[00:15:55] (archive recording) City Clerk Heather Glaser: Mayor to May?

[00:15:56] (archive recording) Mayor Ellen Kamei: Here.

[00:15:56] (archive recording) City Clerk Heather Glaser: Thank you.

[00:46:55] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great. So move on to item 3, which is our study session on the recommended fiscal year 2021, 22 of through fiscal year 202526 capital improvement program. The purpose of this study session is to present the recommended fiscal year 2021, 2022 through fiscal year 2025 through 26 capital improvement program for city council review, comment, and refinement. After the staff presentation, the council will answer the following 2 questions in turn. Question one, does the city council support steps recommended modifications to the non-discretionary projects and discretionary projects for fiscal years 2021 to 22 to 26 and amendments to existing projects? And question two. Are there any projects not included in the recommended 5 year CIP? Or not on the unscheduled proposed project list that counsel would like staff to review for possible inclusion? Our public works director, Don Cameron, will provide a staff presentation. Assistant public works director, Ed Orango, associate engineer, Joy Houghton, and senior management analyst, Nancy Dawan are available for questions. We'll turn it over to you, Director Cameron.

[00:48:10] Public Works Director Don Cameron: Thank you very much and good evening. I'm going to share my screen. Um, If you could please confirm, you can see my screen. I'd appreciate it

[00:48:22] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Yes, we see it and we hear you.

[00:48:24] Public Works Director Don Cameron: Thank you very much. Good evening, mayor and council members. As introduced, I'm Don Cameron, public works director. This is the 2nd of 2 council study sessions for the development of the 5-year capital improvement program or CIP. The 1st study session was held on March 23rd, where staff provided an overview of the various CIP funding sources, including potential funding shortfalls. At this meeting, council supported staff's recommendation to prioritize the use of unrestricted CIP funds based on certain criteria such as safety, regulatory requirements and pavement maintenance. Staff also recommended a CIP project that focused on city, facility, natural gas appliance replacement to offset the greenhouse gas generation of the new city hall HVAC system. Council requested that staff return with a hybrid approach that also included some form of offsets with some preference for a local approach. Staff is now recommending a city hall HV GHG offsets project, that splits the $450,000 in funding between replacing natural gas appliances at city facilities, and local tree planting. Staff also visited the bicycle and pedestrian advisory committee to request their input on transportation projects. Their input and staff's response has been included in the council report. In addition, the Parks and Recreation Commission provided input put on Parkland Fund projects. As discussed at the last study session, there are a variety of CIP funding sources, many of them restricted to certain types of projects. The recommended five-year CIP before you tonight is fairly well balanced in terms of the projections for these very, various funding sources. However, as noted in the council report, certain funding sources will be challenged. Our primary concern was that there was a shortfall of $40000000 for roll forward projects needing unrestricted funds in years one and two. By applying the criteria to prioritize and pushing some roll forward projects out to years 4 and 5, we were able to balance years one and two. We are showing a cumulative shortfall of $14 million in unrestricted funds for years 3 to 5, which may not be a problem if the economy rebounds. But this is the reason few new projects have been added to the CIP. Also to note is that the wastewater fund is projected to have a shortfall of $7000000 in year 3, and the storm drain fund is depleted by year 5. Once the sewer master plan is completed, we will look to, we will need to look at funding strategies to address the shortfall. The recommended 5 year CIP also fully allocates the various transportation funding sources to maximize investment to projects that will maintain the city's pavement, while also continuing to fund active transportation improvements, and the caltrain grade separation projects. There is not enough funding available to improve the city network payment condition index or PCI over the current 72 rating in the next 5 years. And there is a possibility that if the gas tax and other resources do not rebound, we may see a one or 2 point drop in PCI over the next 5 years. We are applying to integrate more active transportation improvements into upcoming road resurfacing projects, which may help to advance some of the active transportation projects currently in the unscheduled project list. Moving on to the recommended project. The nondiscretionary projects have been streamlined, but maintain the same funding levels and levels of maintenance and repair efforts for the city's infrastructure and facilities. These 31 projects require 16 to $17000000 annually. A total of 70 new discretionary projects are recommended with 34 of them in years one and two. As you can see, they spend the full range of CIP project categories. The dollar value is around $27 to $30000000 per year. The $50000000 in year 3 includes $200000 in matching funds for the construction of the 2 Caltrain grade separation projects. The council report also list amendments to 30 active CIP projects generally due to changes in scope or funding needs. This includes renaming the pedestrian master plan to be the active transportation plan and adding bicycle planning to the scope with additional funding for the expanded scope. Also included is the list of unscheduled projects. These projects are candidates to be added to the CIP when funding and staffing is available, and where their scope is better defined. Staff reviewed the recommended discretionary and amended project list in terms of the same equity list being used for the budget. Staff did not identify any CIP projects that would burn communities of color and or low income residents, but did identify several projects that directly or indirectly benefit communities with low income residents. After tonight's study session, staff will develop the final five-year CIP for council adoption on June 22nd. So as mentioned earlier, staff requests council input on 2 questions for today's study session, with the 1st question being discounts support, basically the project list you've seen before you, not discretionary, the discretionary projects and amendments. And the 2nd question, is there any projects not included in the recommended five-year CIP or not on the unscheduled proposed project list that council would like staff to review for possible conclusion? Please do keep in mind that adding a project to the CIP mainly moving another same category project out of the CIP into unscheduled to make funding and staffing available. This concludes staff's presentation and staff is available to answer council questions. And I think I just accidentally zoomed out.

[00:54:47] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Oh, you're here.

[00:54:48] Public Works Director Don Cameron: Oh, okay, thank you. Okay, no problem. I closed the screen and then you all disappeared on me.

[00:54:55] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Well, he's still here and see you. So thanks so much, Ms. Cameron. We appreciate it. So since this is a study session, we'll go to public comment first. So um, would any member of the public on the line like to provide comment on this item? If so, please click the raise hand button in Zoom or Stardine on your phone, and we'll display a 2 minute timer, Miss Glazer, if that's okay. On the screen. All right. Okay, I see hands starting to be raised. I thought I thought our computer was broken here. All right, so, oh. No? Okay. And if I can just ask. City clear glazer to make me and see. The host, I can unmute our public comment. Wonderful. Thank you. All right, April Webster.

[00:56:01] April Webster: Hi, um, April Webster. I'm speaking on behalf of, um, MV, CSP and Green Space's Mountain View, and we sent in a letter yesterday. I'm just going to hit some of the highlights from that. Um, Just to get started, really excited to see active transportation plan, um, brought forward as an update to both the bicycle plan and a pedestrian plan, and, um, just so many projects over the next few years that fall under that umbrella. One thing that we would love to see, perhaps integrated into that is, I realize in the general plan that there are complete, there's a complete streets policy. It would be wonderful to pull that, um, complete streets policy plus adding green elements into it, um, to redefine it as a green complete streets policy within the act of transportation plan. Um, VTA has something similar in their complete streets would, which would be a, uh, a good, um, example to base it off of, um, and Sam Mateo has taken this direction as well in their policy. Um, Definitely like to see more. And I, I, we notice that there is actually, um, a report, um, that's going to be revisited to look more at, um, additional measures that can be taken to calm traffic. So in a sense, designing more for people, not cars, while speed limits are set at a low level around town, unless you actually design the street to sort of encourage that slower speed if the streets are wide and there's aren't any other sort of elements in place to um, encourage and sort of um, new people in that direction of slowing down, it's not something that usually happens. Um, also wanted to talk about, I, I, the quick build approach, and I saw that being mentioned in the report. Um, and I know this is also, you know, starting to come into play more with, um, Oh, sorry.

[00:58:10] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Thank you so much. appreciate it. All right, would anyone else like to provide public comments on this item? All right. I am not seeing any other hands in the queue. So I will bring it back to council. Um, for questions and comments. Council member Abi Koga.

[00:58:34] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: Thank you. I just had a couple of questions on the unscheduled project list. Um, and I'm sorry, I didn't have a chance to write these in, but, um, I wanted to ask for the update on the Bonnie Beatrice Street open space project. I know there was some movement recently, um, about it, but then I guess there's some challenges with SFUC, but I was wondering where, like, where are we on that? Is it not gonna happen or, um, Has it been delayed or, Is it still moving forward?

[00:59:15] Public Works Director Don Cameron: Thank you for the question, council member. Um, so what you're seeing on their scheduled list is what we're calling phase 2 of the project. When we met with the community, I think it was about a month ago or 6 weeks ago. Um, they concurred with, we should move forward on the previously approved uh, design from SFPUC and already budgeted. But they also asked us to consider adding some more enhancements in the future after working our way through SFPC and and finding budget to do that. So that's what you see on the unscheduled list. The other project is going forward.

[00:59:52] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: Great, thank you. And then the other one, um, was is the Shenandoah Park. So, um, my recollection is that we pulled that, um, keep a request from the army, um, because it was sitting for many years. Um, so, I, I guess my, he thought was, can we just remove, you know, um,

[01:00:14] Public Works Director Don Cameron: We, we can, if, if that's what council would like, we can remove it from the unscheduled list. Um, unless you think there's a chance it might come back, then it just stays on, it can just stay on the unscheduled list until it's time.

[01:00:29] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: I think it's just as long, slow-going process, and I might as, I just wanted to make your list smaller, so I would just as well remove it, and then if it comes back, we can bring it back on.

[01:00:42] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Thank you. Thank you, council member Hicks.

[01:00:49] Councilmember Alison Hicks: So I have one of those questions that I'm not sure, I'm never sure whether to put it in the question or comment section. So I'll, I guess I'll ask it as a question and maybe it will come back as a comment. Um, So, um, according to, and I have to say, I, I very much agree with the one uh, public comment that we got, and my question is kind of along the lines of, of that comment. Um, you know, it's nice when you agree with the public comments. According to best available science, we have to achieve net 0 greenhouse gas emission by 2030 or earlier to delay potentially dire consequences of climate change. And we're also now responding to or coming out of a pandemic that's changed. A lot of the way people see streets and other projects on our list. And I'm just wondering, that made me, um, kind of look over our list of priorities and feel like they weren't, they didn't really respond to the things that are on, on people's mind, like the letters we've gotten in the public comment and the things that are frankly on my mind. But I see these sessions as usual, I haven't been in that many of them, but I see these sessions as usually places where we talk about individual projects and, you know, say we can pull this one or add that one. And I'm just wondering, um, It, how can we most usefully make comp, the broader priority, uh, comments like, like the ones that come to my mind and seem to be coming to the public's mind as well?

[01:02:43] Public Works Director Don Cameron: Well, this is a session where if you have the full set of projects in front of you, and if you feel that there are projects in the unscheduled lists that should not be, or there are projects that aren't even showing up, that should be, um, this, it is a 2nd study session, but we are asking them to question and we can take into consideration if that's council's direction. Um, and then, as we said, you know, what you have in front of you is generally, um, a fully funded CIP with a little bit of challenges. So if we do move things in, we have to move things out. So that's where the challenge becomes for staff when council lets us know what their priorities are and they want us to move a project in. We'll have to kind of go through the projects that are in the CIP, the ones that are using eligible funding sources because that's 1st and to have staffing available that we could take a project out and put this project in instead. Uh, so that that's one possibility here. One of the things I will also mention that, you know, what plays out for us and why we do a 5 year CIP is that many projects you see or started a while ago, we might be onto phase 2, like the construction phase. Or, and then of course, a lot of what's in the CIP is, is more related to our utilities, trying to keep them mistake, good repairs. When you look at the actual 17 projects that are being added next year's new discretionary projects, You will see, There aren't that many that are not these utility projects or something like that or a park project that's being funded by parkland funds. So there isn't a whole lot to work with, and I'll say the last piece is, you know, we can next year when we bring forward, well next year's a roll forward CIP, but there's more we can do if council wants to do a somewhat longer study sessions where we just bring over a lot of proposed projects that haven't been kind of slotted in yet. Many times you'll be dealing with the years 3 to 5 of the CIP in that case.

[01:05:01] Councilmember Alison Hicks: Okay, thank you.

[01:05:06] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. Any other questions? All right. Seeing no questions. Um, perhaps we can have council members go through the 2 questions from staff. Um, We have question one and question 2 and perhaps council members can give their feedback on both at the same time. Would anyone like to start? Nice meeting you, Ms.

[01:05:41] Vice Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. I was really hoping not to have to go first, but, um, all I have to say is, I'm comfortable with the staff's recommendation. I have no suggestions. Uh, I think a, did a good job. Don is articulating the constraints of staff capacity and funding. Um, there are certainly priorities I have, and I know all of us have, I would love to see more of the active, uh, transportation projects, uh, implemented, but it, you know, I think we're doing the best we can. So I'm perfectly comfortable with what you've proposed. Thank you.

[01:06:21] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. Anyone else have? Answers to the 2 questions? Cancel the matter check?

[01:06:31] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Um, I also am comfortable with the staff recommendation. So for question one, yes, I'm comfortable and question two. No, I don't have any proposed editions. Um, I'm always advocating for um, additional spend on our roads. They're used not just by vehicles, but by bicycles, people running, people walking, and, um, I guess, uh, I'd like to see greater investment in that area, but I understand the constraints, but I also think we, um, can potentially use funds that are unrestricted. We're not limited to the ones that are that have to be used for roads. I believe we could use unrestricted funds also to invest in our roads. for the benefit of walkers, bicyclists, people on motorcycles, and people driving cars. But we can have that discussion next year. Thanks.

[01:07:31] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great. Thank you so much. Council member Hicks.

[01:07:38] Councilmember Alison Hicks: So back to my, my, um, sort of hybrid question, comment. Um, so I would, you know, I, I support the, the staff recommendations, but I would like to um, change the, kind of the way the word, the prioritization. So when we continue to look at this over time, um, uh, our projects kind of evolve to be, um, you know, as some of the, the public, the, the, the letters from the public, so that we're designing more for people and not cars. Um, and I think that, and then also, uh, let's see, other highlights taking an integrated approach, and especially, um, when we talk about complete streets, took about, um, complete and green streets. I think that's something that the public has, has, um, really been asking for lately. And, you know, I would like our, our, uh, our projects to focus, not just on paving and not, I know that paving is not just for cars, um, but, but I think that pedestrians and bicyclists need a lot more than just paving. I mean, I think we need shade and we need pleasant places to walk. And so I would like that to become, you know, that to permeate the projects much more than it does. Now, I also support the choosing the quick build approach. I've been seeing that in cities around the Bay Area because of the pandemic, you know, road diets that don't take a lot of reconstruction. Um, but I would like quick build uh, projects to not become permanent if they, you know, in their, you know, plastic bollard form to become complete green streets if possible. So, um, So those are, let me say, if I had other, those are most of my priorities. Um, You know, I would like to see kind of a change in the way we look at a lot of these projects.

[01:09:48] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Okay. Thank you, Councilman Robert Kogan.

[01:09:55] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: Thank you. Um, I do support the uh, staff recommendations. Um, I just wanted to, I guess, make a one comment about, um, I noticed a lot of the unscheduled projects, um, tend to be, seem to be, um, bike related, and, um, I'm hoping that I guess I'm being optimistic that I do see funding, um, coming in from the federal and the state level based on, um, Just the times and the, um, beyond ARPA funds, you know, there's infrastructure bill that's being worked on, the state has, um, announced quite a bit of funding in, um, active transportation as well as transit measures. So, um, and I'm sure, you know, staff is, you know, aware, but I hope that we can keep a close eye on those finding opportunities. I know we had just submitted the click strike project on the bike project. That was on consent last meeting, and that was something that actually I saw on MTC. I don't, one of our MTC agenda, schedules, our schedule on our agenda. So, um, just, yeah, being mindful of those opportunities and I know it takes time to write those grant applications. Um, so I just hope that we have the capacity to be able to do that, um, as we see these opportunities come forward. So, um, and if there's, you know, a need for more capacity in that regard, please be sure to bring that up to us. Thank you.

[01:11:31] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you, council member, show Walter.

[01:11:36] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Yeah, thank you. Um, I would say yes to question one and um, note a question too. But I just wanted to make a few policy comments. One, um, I was really glad to see that there's, there was a, um, a drive to consolidate projects that should have been consolidated and sort of think, uh, you know, think about how things mesh together. That's really positive. That's good practice. So thank you for doing that. Public works department. I know it's it's not easy. takes a lot of thinking. The other thing I'm really pleased to see is the section about the equity lens. Today is, you know, is the anniversary of the George Ford murder. And I think we've all learned a lot in this last year about how much work there is to do related to equity. And certainly, just all the build environment has equity considerations. And it's not something we've traditionally thought about. But we need to do that now. So I was really glad to see that not that we, you know, we are consciously doing that. And I think that's that's really important. Um, I, other, several other people have said. We've heard loud and clear from our community for many years that everybody is very interested in active transportation. People want to bike and people want to work. Rock. And I think we're, you know, we really are improving the bike ability of our community considerably. But I'm not so sure about the walkability. So, you know, that's something that, you know, well, let me, of course, we need to consider continue working on. Um, and, and again, uh, the, the idea of complete green streets, that's just, that's just where um, uh, the, uh, the, the science and the practice is going. And there are lots of reasons and our community is behind it. So, you know, as things go forward, I'm sure that the, you know, the staff will be, well, I hope the staff will be, you know, bearing that in mind. That is something that we, you know, we value. Um, and along those lines. I think that the biodiversity that's increased with green states is a really big deal. And um, uh, some relatively small changes can make a big difference. Um, then the other last thing I wanted to mention is the stormwater fund. Um, that's not something we think about too frequently, but uh, the storm water system is is literally the system that carries away our local flood water. And typically it's designed to carry away a 10 year storm. And and the flood control projects are a 100 year storm. But anyway, so, so as, um, as time goes on and with climate change, we're expecting to have, um, less frequent but more intense storms, our storm water system is going to need some care and attention. And we don't necessarily need to do it this year or next year or the year after, but it is something on the horizon that we need to be aware of. So I just wanted to bring that up. You know, that it's something we need to be aware of. But anyway, thank you for this report. It's very, um, very complete and uh, well thought out and as I said before, um, yes, yes, unwanted. Now on to. Thank you.

[01:14:56] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Thank you, Counselor Mayor.

[01:14:58] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Thank you, Mayor. Um, well, I'm also, yes, and then, and then on too. I certainly don't want to add on to this very uh, enormous list and and kudos to staff for coping with all of this and and doing it in a very sophisticated way. Um, I want to agree, uh, a 1000% with the uh, comments from council member hicks, um, about really amplifying and articulating that, um, we're trying to deliver an environmental benefit with uh, these things that we're doing because we we really are. And that's something that's very, very important to the community. And, um, so if that can be worked in there to, um, really make that very clear. Um, I think that, uh, that would be a good thing. And, um, council member show alter gave us a couple good examples there of, of why we need to, um, do these things. And, uh, I just think that amplifying that would give a sense of confidence to the community. So thank you so much.

[01:16:11] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. So, um, let's see. So for questions of one and question two. So question one, yes, question two, no. Um, and I just want to applaud staff. I think one of the unique things I've been seeing related to our CAP projects is how Miss Cameron and her team go so aggressively for additional funding opportunities. Um, and I really have, have seen that um, through, throughout the years and just want to say thank you and as, as we talk about things getting more expensive or needing to consolidate and move things kind of further out, I really love the creativity on, on that and how we're making things, you know, possible in our, in our city. Um, and then the only other comments I make is, um, you know, echoing what um, customer shelter said in terms that this is the 1st um, kind of project we're seeing using the, the equity-based budgeting that the ad-hoc REI subcommittee talked about, and it's really kind of exciting to see that come to fruition, um, a year later. So I just want to say thank you for that. All right, does anyone else have any other further comments? All right, Ms. Cameron, I think you have what you need, right?

[01:17:28] Public Works Director Don Cameron: Uh, I would like to ask for confirmation from the council that we should go ahead and remove the Shenandoah planning from the unscheduled list. As has been suggested.

[01:17:41] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Okay, so why don't we just do a straw? Oh, I see a handcuff from Lily Burke. Go ahead.

[01:17:46] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Um, I just have a question about the, does, what's the practical impact of removing it from neon schedule this? Because I know that we have a new presidential administration that may be more aggressive and, um, doing projects and turning the dials in a certain way. And, um, so does removing it from unscheduled, make it scheduled, or, um, does removing it from unscheduled, uh, take it off of our docket of things that we're interested in?

[01:18:24] Public Works Director Don Cameron: What it does is it takes it off the docket for now so that each year when we look at the CIP and we look at the unscheduled list to see which ones to move into the CIP, it won't be on that list right now. However, we frequently have things come up during the year that create the need for projects that we know even had on our unscheduled list. So if something happens with Shenandoah, that we now need to do some master planning or do or something else with it, it can always be added at any time. It doesn't have to be on the unscheduled list to be added. It just means that we're not going to be evaluating it every year for whether it should be added to the CIP.

[01:19:10] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Well, I guess from my perspective, I'd rather keep it, um, on the docket, and, um, Maybe not just completely wait to hear. Um, but have the opportunity open to us in, in the, um, prod, to keep it in mind that, um, it would be a benefit to the community if we could make something happen in terms of change there. So I would rather just, um, leave it on because it doesn't sound like an onerous amount of work. Um, goes into, uh, Placing a little bit higher than non-existent.

[01:19:58] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Okay, Councilmer Shelter.

[01:20:01] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Well, I kind of have a similar comment. I guess my feeling is that, um, not from our point of view, I don't think we'll treat it really any differently, whether it's on the list or not on the list, but I think from the point of view of the army, who is not easy to deal with, um, if it gets taken on the list, that might be viewed as, um, uh, us being less formally interested. And I don't think we want to send that message. So I'm just a little nervous about taking it off and I'd prefer to leave it on.

[01:20:36] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Catch a member, Mattachek?

[01:20:38] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Thanks. I agree with what council membership Walter just said. I feel like it's a signal to, uh, the property owner as well as our community that we're still interested in this. And so, um, while I get that it's sort of easy to have stuff come on the list and up the list. I prefer to just leave it on the list. Thanks.

[01:21:01] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Okay, council member, I'll be okay.

[01:21:06] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: So this project, um, I saw as when I read the, um, description was uh, connected to the army's original gatekeeper request of uh, I think it was up to a 1000 apartment units. Um, and we have moved from that. We've changed our direction, as you know. We were, we have on our council work plan to work with the high school district on Shenandoah, um, on, like trying to get the Shenandoah properties for, um, some kind of joint use. And that's why I meant, um, that's why I thought we could remove this project because it was specifically tied to that proposal, which we've taken off. of our list of things to do. So, um, unless I'm mistaken in my interpretation of that, um, I, yeah, because the project is no longer an active. I didn't think that we needed this project on our CIP either. So I had a little bit of a question in there, Miss Cameron, can you clarify?

[01:22:23] Public Works Director Don Cameron: I, I, I do not know if the, The origin of this project, if it relates back to an original gatekeeper request, and looking at it, it's specifically related to having a park on the site. Um, because it's falling under parked and recreation. So, Sometimes that's one of the things that does happen with our scheduled list is we have something on there that just stays on for years and years and we don't totally know the origin of it.

[01:22:58] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Okay, Council member Mattachek?

[01:23:01] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Yeah, I see now what, um, council member Abecoga is saying, I guess when I read it, I thought, oh, it's changed, what they really mean is, um, our current discussions around Shenandoah and high school, and yes, there might be a park there. Um, I guess so I was thinking it would already change the definition of it. So, um, I'd leave it on the list, but I'd update the description of it.

[01:23:28] Mayor Ellen Kamei: So I see some heads nodding. So perhaps, Miss Cameron, we can just update the description and that might be a great place to meet in the middle there.

[01:23:35] Public Works Director Don Cameron: Yes, we can do that.

[01:23:37] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Perfect. All right. Any other comments or questions on this item? Alright. So seeing then, um, I will close the study session and see everyone back at 630 for a regular session. Is that enough of a break for colleagues? Okay. Oh, 10 minutes. Okay. So how about, I'll see you a little. I'll see you in 10 minutes. How about that? Okay. Miss Glacier, could we put up a timer for 10 minutes? Thank you. Thanks, colleagues.

[00:56:40] (archive recording) Mayor Ellen Kamei: I think we have, it looks like we have a poem, so I'll get started. Good evening, everyone. Welcome to the joint meeting of the City Council Regular and Shoreline Regional Park Community Special. May 25th, 2021. I'm going to read the usual announcement as required. This meeting will be conducted in accordance with state of California, executive order N dash 29 dash 20, dated March 17, 2020. All members of the city council are participating in this meeting by video conference with no physical meeting location. Members of the public wishing to observe the meeting live may do so at mountainview.legistar.com. On YouTube at mountain view.GOV slash YouTube and on Comcast Channel 26. As noted on the meeting agenda, members of the public may provide full public comments during the public comment period for the item. By signing up at Mountain View.gov slash CC underscore speakers. Or by phone by dialing 669-9009128 and entering webinar ID 937-02047911. Any emails received by 430 p.m. today were received directly by the city council. All votes will be taken by will call vote. And I'll ask the city hook to please bring up our flag. Please join me in the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flat of the United States of America, and to the Republic, for which it stands, The Nation, underlad, Indivisible, with Liberty and Justice Fraud. Okay, thank you very much. And before taking role tonight, I'd like to take a moment to acknowledge the one-year anniversary today of the death of George Floyd. We remember his life and remain committed to rooting out racism and discrimination. We continue to work together as a community to make our city safe and welcoming for all. Over the last year, the city has taken steps to advance racial equity and justice in Mountain View. Our ad hoc council subcommittee on race, equity, and inclusion has engaged the community in meaningful dialogue. The city has implemented a race equity and inclusion action plan, and the newly formed public safety advisory board is holding its 1st meeting this Thursday, May 27th, to discuss and make recommendations on policing and public safety matters. The city of Mountain View stands in solidarity with our black residents and our communities of color. We will continue to take steps to build a community where everyone feels safe, valued, and included. Thank you. Now, ask our city clerk to move on to item two, which is roll call.

[01:38:21] Interim City Clerk Silvia Vonderlinden: Council member, Ali Coca.

[01:38:23] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: Here,

[01:38:24] Interim City Clerk Silvia Vonderlinden: Council member Hicks,

[01:38:25] Councilmember Alison Hicks: here.

[01:38:25] Interim City Clerk Silvia Vonderlinden: Council member Liebert.

[01:38:27] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Here.

[01:38:28] Interim City Clerk Silvia Vonderlinden: Council member Matachek.

[01:38:29] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Here,

[01:38:30] Interim City Clerk Silvia Vonderlinden: Council member, Martial.

[01:38:31] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Here.

[01:38:32] Interim City Clerk Silvia Vonderlinden: Thanks, Mia Ramirez.

[01:38:34] Vice Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Here.

[01:38:35] Interim City Clerk Silvia Vonderlinden: May I come?

[01:38:36] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Here, thank you. Great, thank you. So we'll move on to item 3, which are presentations. Our 1st presentation will be from mid, mid, peninsula, regional open space, uh, district with an update. Our mid-pen open space director, Kurt Ruffle, and government affairs specialist Joshua Hugg, will provide the update. I believe they're both here. Hey, good. Good evening. And Josh, Josh, did you, were you able to join as well?

[01:39:14] Kurt Riffle: Yes, it looks like he's about to share a scene.

[01:39:17] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Fantastic. Perfect.

[01:39:21] Kurt Riffle: All right, good evening, Mayor. City council members and members of the city staff. I'm Kurt Riffle, board president of the Mid Peninsula Regional Open Space District. I'm now in my 15th year as director for Ward 4, which represents the citizens of Mountain View at Los Altos. Assisting with our presentation this evening, is Joshua Hutt, who is Midpen's governmental affairs specialist. The purpose of our very brief presentation, you see even is to introduce or reintroduce you to the mid peninsula region open space district. Invite you to provide any feedback that you might have for us. And finally, answer any questions you have for the about the district's work for our shared constituents. Next side, please. In addition to living in Silicon Valley. We are also so fortunate to live within one of the world's 25 global biodiversity hotspots, which happens to be centered in the Santa Cruz Mountains. Our mission is basically captured in the 5 words in the lower right hand corner of the slide. To preserve, protect, restore, educate, and enjoy this incredible land we have been so blessed to inhabit. Ex slide, please. The district's boundaries. Span 3 counties and include 17 cities, stretching from San Carlos, to Los Gatos, and from East Palo Alto to Pescadero. Next time. Since 1972. The district has protected over 65,000 acres in 26 open space preserves for the benefit of our almost 800,000 constituents. Our preserves are free and open to the public every day of the year from sunrise to sunset. And were funded by property tax that equates to about ¢50 per day for the average property in Mountain View and Los Altos. Next slide. Over the last year. We chose to keep all of our preserves, or at least most of our preserves open throughout the pandemic, and our visitation has more than doubled from pre-pandemic levels. As the medical community is clearly stated, our preserves not only provided a central service, but they most likely saved lives by providing a safe and healthy reprieve for our citizens. Excellent. Finally, I'd like to just share one of the over 120 annual action plan items that are 180 employees and over 1000 volunteers have been working on over this past year. Next time? As you know, our 2 organizations have jointly funded in staff for many years, the much beloved 160 year old Deer Hollow Farm at Rancho San Antonio Open Space Reserve. We're close to completing the renovation of the historic white barn picture here that was built in the late 1800s. We've also just completed a multimodal access study for Rancho, which was visited by well over one million people over this past year. We will begin implementing a multi-part strategy to address the serious parking problems that so many of our business experience, especially on the weekends. Before we answer any of your questions, we thought we'd just give you a quick tour of some of our more popular preserves near Mountain View, next slide.

[01:42:53] Joshua Hugg: Thank you. And so, 1st is to lead off is Montebello. Hopefully you've had a chance to visit Montebello, next slide. And then just down the road a little further is Russian Ridge. Um, And then finally, the next slide. Is Wendy Hill, our Windy Hill Open Space Preserve. Next side. We are so fortunate to live in such an incredibly beautiful and diverse area, and we just want to thank you for helping us to protect and restore our precious lands and provide safe and equitable access to our human as well as wildlife inhabitants. Thanks again for your support and for your interest in our work. And Josh and I will be happy to take any of your questions and comments, and in fact, we'll give extra credit to anyone who can identify the species of our beautiful feathered friend pictured in the slide.

[01:43:50] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Thank you so much, Kurt. I wish I knew the name of this amazing bird, but it's great to hear about all of the district is doing to provide open space and access to nature, especially as you mentioned during this last year. We appreciate the city's long-standing partnership with the district for the Operation of Deer Hollow Farm at Rancho San Antonio. It's a unique opportunity for the city to operate a working farm, in an open space preserve, and we couldn't do it without the collaboration and teamwork of district staff. I'd also like to acknowledge your team's recent completion of the white barn. As you mentioned, it's just such a gem, um, as we're, you know, when we're there in Rancho, um, hiking and walking in my case, I usually run out there. This project, it's just a shining example of taking a historic building and increasing its functionality and safety while preserving the historic aspects. So, I know that the farm staff volunteers and the public appreciate the facility improvement. So just wanted to have an opportunity to thank thank you as well. So if my colleagues, if you have any questions or comments, please feel free to use the raise hand button and then we can um, give them to Kurt and Joshua. And Joshua, do you mind if we stop this great share so we can all see each other? Is that possible? Wonderful. Thank you so much. Look at all these hands. Counselor, let a check.

[01:45:23] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Thanks. I also want to thank you for all the work you do with the open space district. I am a frequent visitor to Rancho, very frequent visitor to Rancho. And so I'm very familiar with the parking issue there. Um, and uh, my younger years, I think I mountains liked every other preserve that is part of the district. So, it's a fabulous resource for the Bay Area. And as you said, nature can renew you. So it's wonderful to have this nature so close to us. And that we can all enjoy, and I just appreciate everything you do for those preserves. And you will have to identify that bird for us when we finish. Thank you.

[01:46:16] Kurt Riffle: I had to.

[01:46:17] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Thank you, Counselor. Metric. Thank you, council member Hicks.

[01:46:25] Councilmember Alison Hicks: I cannot identify the bird either, but I wanted to thank you from the bottom of my heart as well. I know that, um, you know, the spaces that you're talking about have always been important, but I totally agree with you that over the past year, they have saved lives and I've had members of the public tell me that just how important it's been to them that, you know, when they can't travel, they can, um, and they can't go to the gym, they can, um, you know, at least go somewhere outside and somewhere beautiful and, and, you know, it makes a difference to people's mental and physical health. So thank you again.

[01:47:02] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Hey, thank you, counselor. Councilman Michelle Walter.

[01:47:10] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Well, yeah, adding my thanks and admiration to the, uh, Midpenance or Regional Open Space District. You're just, you know, a shining example of, um, uh, what an open space district could should do and can do and has done. But, um, I just wanted to ask you about sort of the shift that I understood was taking place, um, with the last uh, parcel test, I think it was a parcel test, tax measure, where, you know, the 1st like 30 or 50 years of your existence, you really um, spent most of your money on, um, uh, acquiring land, which was very, very important. And now, there's been more of a shift to, um, make sure there's enough money to maintain the land and and develop facilities for people to enjoy it and, you know, all that sort of thing. So I just wanted you to talk a little bit about how that's going.

[01:48:02] Kurt Riffle: Oh, great. Well, thank you for that question. Yes, so what you're talking about is our measure AA, uh, bond that was, uh, basically passed in 2014. And we went through an extensive, uh, 2.5 year process, uh, to identify a vision plan, and we identified 25 specific projects that we were going to use that money for. And so luckily that passed, as you know, super majority. Um, and uh, we are now into just in year 6 of our 30 year uh, bond program. And, um, we're making great progress, um, and happy to, to take you through any of, uh, any of the specific projects, but I'll give you just one, and I don't know if any of you have had a chance to go to the top of Mount Amenum. Um, Mount Amenum was basically most of that was paid for by measure AA funds. Um, and so, and just like, uh, uh, uh, council member Sherwater said, um, what we had really done is in order for us to continue protecting land, but most importantly, providing more access, and that was the feedback that we were given time and time again is, is thank you for protecting, but allow us get onto the land. That's really what measure A funds are allowing us to do. So we've opened up the Honda. Redwoods or Honda Creek Redwoods, open space preserve, which hadn't been open before, and we opened up Bear Creek Redwoods, which is just down by Los Gatos. That hadn't been opened and we were able to open that, thanks to Measure AA. So those are just some examples of the work that we're doing.

[01:49:41] Councilmember Pat Showalter: And since you mentioned Mount Amenom, I would just like to put a shout out for Mountain View, um, uh, child that grew up here and became a civil engineer and was the engineer that designed the roads and trail system in Mount Amenom. So, um, that I thought that was wonderful.

[01:49:59] Kurt Riffle: Great. Thank you. Good question. Thank you.

[01:50:03] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great. Thank you, Counselor reliever.

[01:50:05] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Thank you, Mayor. Well, I just wanted to offer my thanks as well, as has been pointed out, it's, um, been so critical during this year, um, and during COVID to have the outdoors available to people, and, uh, and I think it's a reset. And that, um, our shared constituents will continue to go into the outdoors. And and to really enjoy that. And it's part of the heritage that we all share and very, very important. And then second, I want to know if by chance that is a Western bluebird.

[01:50:43] Kurt Riffle: You are exactly right. You get the extra points. All done.

[01:50:50] Councilmember Sally Lieber: The color gave it, gave it away.

[01:50:52] Kurt Riffle: But you definitely know your birds.

[01:50:55] Councilmember Sally Lieber: A little bit.

[01:50:56] Kurt Riffle: Yeah.

[01:51:01] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great. Thank you so much. So I think, um, if council members don't have any other comments or questions. We'll move it over to public comment. So would any member of the public on the line like to provide comment on this item? If so, please click the raise hand button in Zoom or press star 9 on your phone and we'll just wait a 2 minute timer on the screen. Great, thank you. Tim McKenzie.

[01:51:27] Tim McKenzie: Hey, Kurt, thank you so much just as a resident of Mountain View. really appreciate and into open space and everything new. Windy Hill is awesome. I did a couple times during the pandemic and and beforehand too. It's, uh, it is wonderful. I appreciate the work you and everyone there does. Thank you very much.

[01:51:47] Kurt Riffle: Great. Thank you. App appreciate your comments. Well, thanks about Wendy Hills. That is our most visited preserved just from because it allows equestrians, mountain bikes, hikers, and dogs. So everyone is out there, it gets a lot of use. Glad to hear.

[01:52:01] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. April Webster.

[01:52:07] April Webster: Hi, Kurt. I also wanted to say thank you very much. I hike a lot around the Bay Area and I was actually, I heard about Eminem opening up all the way to the top and I haven't made it up yet, but I'm excited to one day soon attempt to break up to the top. Now that it's open. Anyhow, appreciate it.

[01:52:29] Kurt Riffle: Good, thank you.

[01:52:34] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. Rhoda Fry?

[01:52:40] Rhoda Fry: Good evening, council members. Um, thank you, uh, Midpest People Open Space District for your presentation. It is particularly timely because we have got to protect the ridgeline between Rancho San Antonio and the quarry. And uh, from Shoreline Park, you'll see that ridgeline. The quarry intends to reduce the height of that ridgeline by about 100 feet. That's about 10% of the ridgeline that you would see from the, from the farm. And That ridgeline is protected. There was a deed in 1972 that the board of supervisors had voted on, it's called the Ridge Line Protection Easement. And the quarry intends to overturn it. The words we've been hearing is modification, but it's overturning it. So, I'm hoping that the city of Mountain View can work with the Middependent Charito Open Space District, to protect our park values, and our views. In the news, just yesterday, Heidelberg cement, the quarry's parent company sold all of its assets in the Western states, with the exception of the permanente quarry and cement plant. One of my biggest worries is that there won't be enough money to reclaim the quarry and will be left with a mess, and it will cost the taxpayers quite a bit of money. Additionally, as I've mentioned to you before. There is a man-made landslide above Permanente Creek. And it is threatening homes and structures downstream. And Lehigh has declined to make it part of their reclamation plan. So we need everybody's help because otherwise we will lose our quality water, our views and our park values. Thank you.

[01:54:46] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Thank you. All right, that couldn't...

[01:54:53] Interim City Clerk Silvia Vonderlinden: We have one more.

[01:54:54] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Sorry about that. Milhan. Goody Nathan.

[01:55:03] Mohan Gurunathan: Hi Mayor, can you hear me?

[01:55:04] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Yes, I hear you.

[01:55:05] Mohan Gurunathan: Okay, thank you. Thank you, Kurt, for that great presentation. I want to echo what many people have said that MedPen is such a beautiful, wonderful resource that we um, that we enjoy as a Bay Area community. And I certainly take part in that. My big concern and complaint, I would say, about mid-pan is the fact that they still allow cattle grazing up there. And cattle are by no means native wildlife. They are, in many respects, the antithesis of native wildlife. They eat forage that native elk and deer and other species should be eating. We don't need more cattle. They're huge methane emitters. And I would love someday to see can be removed from the landscape and introduction of native species that we've lost, such as elk and and other animals. So that is my comment. Thank you very much.

[01:56:04] Kurt Riffle: Thanks for your feedback.

[01:56:06] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. So I think that concludes public comment. So we can bring it back and thank you to our mid-pen representatives for sharing all this update with us and once again our thanks for all that you do for the city of Mountain View.

[01:56:23] Kurt Riffle: Thank you. It's been a great partnership. We look forward to it.

[01:56:26] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you so much. So we'll move on to item 3.2 which is our recognition of outgoing youth advisory committee members, also known as Yak. And I believe we're having some of our outgoing youth advisory committee members joining us this evening. And I'll just announce them as I think they're going to join us on the virtual stage here in Zoom. And it'll be Amy Katigo. Delia Copen. Matthew Keyboard. Megan keyboard. Malika Reddy. I want to thank all of you for your contributions this past year, especially while participating in distance learning. We all played an integral role in helping to make the transition of committee meetings to all virtual, um, a virtual format, a successful one. So we'd like to recognize Malika ready for serving for 5 years on the youth advisory committee, and we go, we will send you your service award pin in the mail. Remember that? And, um, You know, we'd like you to give you the, um, opportunity as chair, uh, to say a few words.

[01:57:56] Malika Reddy: Yeah, let's say, you know, I've been in Yak, like you said, for 5 years, which is like a massive part of like my growing up. Like I joined in 8th grade and I was super, super shy. I remember like in my 1st year, like I didn't say like a similar word because I was so scared. I was like, we're all these fancy agendas and minutes. I was so intimidated and I was so scared, but then like as the years passed and then I learned from other chairs and vice chairs and I saw everyone speak and plan events, I started to come out of my shell, and I used to be like super shy, and now I'm not so much anymore, and I think a big part of that goes to yak and just being in this committee and learning from my peers, being able to plan events, meet new people and take on leadership roles. Like, in 8th grade, I never would have thought that I would run for chair and be chair and be like having a leadership role. But Yak has taught me so, so much about how to lead a team, how to work with others, how to plan events, and I'm so grateful for this. It's been a huge part of my life. I'll always remember it.

[01:59:10] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great. Thanks so much, Mika. Really appreciate it. So I, and I want to give that there are other outgoing yak members if you'd like to say anything and an opportunity and, you know, if any member of the council would like to say a few words, please feel free to do so.

[01:59:31] Matthew Guibord: Yeah, I would just like to uh, build off of what Malika said, um, Yak really has uh, enabled me to do so much that I never thought was even possible. Um, and having such an impactful, um, uh, making uh, such a big impact on the community and other teens really means a lot to me. And, and it's, it has been an extremely rewarding experience the past 2 years. Thank you.

[01:59:59] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you, Matthew. May see Council member Abby Kugo's handout, Councilman Robby Kuko. Would you like to say a few words?

[02:00:07] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: Thank you, Mayor. Yes. Um, I just want to thank all of you um, members of our yak um, for the incredible service that you have provided our community. Um, I've been on the youth, the council youth services community for, I think, all of my years on council, so I've had the chance to work with Aryak, um, all those years and just been really thoroughly impressed by, um, especially this group of, um, the dedication, the thoughtfulness. I really appreciated your input when we were talking about youth wellness and a number of other issues that have come forward to our city. So, um, on behalf of, um, well, I think everyone can speak for themselves, but I'll just say, so, uh, thank you so much, um, for all of all that you've done. I hope that it's been a good great experience. It sounds like it has. And um, please come back when you're um, back uh, graduated. Um, we would love to have your involvement again with the city, but best wishes to you on your new adventures. And um, yeah, I hope to see you around. Thanks.

[02:01:17] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Thank you, council member Reaper.

[02:01:19] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Thank you, Mayor. Well, I really wanted to add my kudos as well to the YouTube given service in this way. And I hope that you continue in your public service, and it makes me think about our council member, Mary Lou Zaglin, who, um, started the yak back in around 2 the year 2000. And and I think that hearing from both of you is, um, really the fruition of what we thought could happen. Um, with the yak, and it's so inspiring to hear that it's been a good experience, and I hope that you uh, continue to be involved in the public realm because we need you, and I think that you'll continue to find it very rewarding. So thank you for being involved in serving.

[02:02:11] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Thank you, Council member Leitner. Appreciate that. Anyone else like to see a few words? Okay, well, I'll see, have you before we all head out? I think I've been serving as chair of the council youth services committee for the last 2 years. And so I just want to say, I really feel like, you know, I started out doing the Santa Clara County youth commission, that's how I started out actually. And so really excited to see Mountain View Yak and to hear your stories about how it built, not only your community involvement, the confidence in yourself, as you all, I think, are getting ready to go off to college. So I want to wish you all the best and you'll always have a welcoming place in Mountain View to come back to. So thank you so much. Great. So we're getting a visual round of applause. Initial. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

[02:03:18] Mayor Ellen Kamei: All right, enjoy your night. So now I move on to item 3.3, which is, oh, oops, sorry. Before you run, I'm so sorry for that. Would any member of the public on the line? Would like to provide any comment on this item. If so, please click the race, hand button, zoom, or start 9 on your phone. All right, I am not seeing any. So we can move on to item 3.3, which is our COVID-19 update by our city manager, Kimberly McCarthy.

[02:03:47] City Manager Kimbra McCarthy: Thank you, mayor, and good evening, mayor, council members, and members of the public. start to share my screen now. Okay. So it's been about a month since the last update, and I think that we all know there's been some considerable good news since that time, there's been a lot that's happened over these last few weeks, and I just draw your attention to that number that's highlighted at the bottom in terms of where we're at in Mountain View with our COVID-19 numbers. So in a little less than a month, the new cases that we've had are about 60. Um, and if you remember, we were um, tracking in the, uh, you know, 100s high, high numbers uh, daily or every few days. So, uh, we have significant, taken a significant decrease since then, which is really indicative of what we're seeing statewide and certainly what we're seeing throughout the county. Um, in terms of where we're at with the tier, um, this was less updated on May 24th. And as of last Wednesday, Santa Clara County is now in that yellow tier, which we had never been in until last week this whole time throughout COVID. This is the least restrictive tier, which means that most all of the indoor operations are open, except with some modifications. In terms of where we're at just with our vaccination efforts, which is really driving what's happening in Santa Clara County, we've really made excellent progress in the fight against COVID-19. So right now, around 75% of all residents that are 16 and older have received at least one vaccine dose. And this is really important because we are really leading efforts, not only in California, but nationwide. We have one of the highest vaccination rates in the whole entire country right now. So that really shows why we're able to move into the yellow tier and also why we're doing so well just in the state of California. Um, I would note that with the recent approval of the Pfizer vaccine, For youth that are aged uh, 12 to 15, the county has made that vaccine available now. So it is available, all vaccination sites, um, for ages 12 and up. And the county staff are also working with pediatricians, um, at the medical providers throughout the county to make sure that, uh, they do have available doses for uh, residents that are 12 and up. So with the changes that came with the county moving into a better tier, there was also a new local health order that occurred last week. And this was a really significant development because it basically took restrictions that had been off this whole time throughout COVID. And right now, it's no longer required to have social distancing protocols and businesses. The capacity limitations have been eliminated. There is also no longer a requirement for businesses to maximize telework. It's still recommended, but is no longer required. Um, there are a couple changes in terms of what businesses are required to do. And the biggest one is that businesses are required to determine the vaccination status of their employees. So that also is for contractors or volunteers or hourly staff. Um, and we are also required to maintain the mask wearing. Then the other big news that the governor announced a few weeks ago was that California is set to fully reopen on June 15th. Um, so what that means, um, simply is that this tier system that I just talked about where we're in the yellow tier, uh, the tier system will all be um, no longer in place, starting on June 15th. That system is called the blueprint for a safer economy. So all of the usual operations will return with a few exceptions on the 15th. So some of the restrictions that have been lifted are, you know, capacity limitations inside businesses, um, no physical distancing requirements for customers or guests or attendees of events. Now, there is one thing that is a little bit of a difference. Um, there is a verification required of either receiving a vaccination or the vaccine or that you have um, had a negative test. If you attend what the state is calling a mega event. So these are events where there are 5000 or more people. And these same restrictions are in place or at least recommended for outdoor mega events. So I think we've all seen that we really haven't had events like this so far. So as we move through the summer and into the fall, I'm sure that we will start to see more events take place and just know that one of the things that's going to be required is that negative COVID test or verification that you've had a vaccine. As I mentioned, it is still required to wear a mask, um, indoors unless you're eating or drinking, um, in public spaces or on public transportation, but you are not required to wear a mask if you are outdoors, or if you can maintain physical distance from other people. In terms of our vaccination site, there is a new program that's taking place right now. So, uh, we have anyone, as I mentioned, 12 years and up that's available to come in. Walk-ins are welcome at any county site, including our community center. No appointments are needed. So this is a major change. And I would want to note that you can take a selfie with the cardboard cutout of Dr. Fauci after getting your vaccine at our site. So with some of the reopening, we have started to make gradual changes to our city operations. So as we moved into the yellow tier, we are starting to respond, excuse me, respond here in Mountain View. So starting on June 1st, uh, we will have in library browsing and lobby holds pickup Monday to Saturday from 12 to 6 PM. We have computer appointments up to 45 minutes Monday to Saturday, 12 to 545 PM. There's free Wi-Fi available 247 right outside the library. But the biggest changes that the grab and bill holds pickup is ending tomorrow, May 26. So we are transitioning from that outdoor, grab and go service to more of the gradual inside service as people have been used to. In terms of our COVID-19 testing. So far, we've provided about 4000 tests this year alone. Our next testing event is at our cinema for the performing arts on June 1st. And then a new resource that's come online is the OptumServe mobile testing bus. It is a resource provided by the state and it's being shared by both the county of San Santa Clara and San Mateo, and it will be in the parking lot lot 12, which is right behind the library, kind of caddy corner to city hall. And it will be there this actually, sorry, Saturday, June 26th in parking lot 12. So we'll have more information about the time of that in my next update. Um, I also want to provide an update on where we're at with our rent relief program. You can see from the middle column. This is an update as of the 18th of May. So far, uh, we have expended a little quote about $4600000 and there are about 5.368 uh, funds that are available. So the average assistance right now is still around $2000. I see that the lines are kind of off in this chart. So, um, you might be looking at a road that's that's not quite the same as what I'm saying, but, um, the actual amount is around $2000 not, uh, $782,000. Um, we have cut a little over 2100 checks. Um, I'm also very excited to announce that our life moves Mountain View site is now open. We did hold a virtual grand opening on May 6th and we are very excited that we actually have residents that have moved in. So partial occupancy is now underway. You can see that in the picture on the bottom. Um, and this is an interim housing community that's meant to be transitional, um, for people that are homeless or who are unstable housed, um, to live in these units for up to 90 to 120 days before they can transition to permanent housing. So there are up to 100 households. It serves both individuals and seniors. And then there are also family units. I know that we've highlighted this in other meetings and there is a playground on site. There's space for the residents pets. So this is just a shining example of a great public, private partnership that we've been able to implement with, with life moves and a lot of other community partners. So if you want to learn more about this, you can go to mountain view.gov slash home key. And we will continue to provide updates on that website that I just mentioned. Um, but we are very, very pleased that this opened and you can find more information on that website. Then lastly, as I always do, I'd like to end by thank you and all of the city staff that have done such amazing work helping at our vaccination clinics. So what you see here on the screen is just a few snapshots of our staff. Not on me were we the 1st mass vaccination site in the county, where our community services staff really stepped up and were able to work with the county and in creating this mass vaccination site within a week. But we also had fire department staff who, um, worked at the Santa Clara County Fairgrounds to provide vaccines to other public safety employees and then other essential workers. And now our fire department staff is providing mobile vaccines to seniors and other vulnerable residents who are homebound. You can see that in the top, top right corner where they're going out to people's houses and also in the bottom right corner. So, I just want to sincerely thank all of our city, Mountain Bew staff who have, um, just done Yamen's work in, um, not only working at all of our vaccination sites, whether they're actually giving the vaccines or working lines, um, helping with parking, and just really being there for our community. So thank you all so much. And with that mayor, I am done with my presentation and open for any questions.

[02:15:09] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you so much. Do any council members have any questions for city manager McCarthy? Okay, and then I'm not seeing any. So, um, thank you so much for the update. It's, uh, ever change came for you, and I know that we'll have a, a large update in June after that reopening date as well. So, great. thank you so much Um, and then with any member of the public on the line, like to provide a comment on this item, if so, please click the raise hand button in Zoom, or press starting on your phone. And we'll display a 2 minute timer on the screen. Hey, thank you so much. Alexander Brown.

[02:15:55] Alexander Brown: Hey, I just want to know if there's an update. I think that relief is great, but on the eviction moratorium, both the federal, state, and local. Uh, what they're going to do when that ends and they have background that they have to figure out? Thanks.

[02:16:13] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Thank you. Right, they don't see any other hands for public comment. So we can bring it back to cancel, and it looks like we have a handout from the vice mayor.

[02:16:33] Vice Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you, mayor. Uh, I know it's, it's, uh, I don't often say this, but I do think that the member of the public who spoke has a reasonable question and we may not be prepared for an answer right now, but, um, can stock provide, uh, either council or the public an update about our preparation for the expiration of the eviction or program.

[02:17:01] City Manager Kimbra McCarthy: Yes, thank you, vice mayor. So they get your moratorium does end at the end of June on June 30th. And um, at that point, um, the, the statewide moratorium is expected to lift, we have not heard of any extension right now that is being pursued in the legislature. Um, I think that um, council knows and and certainly, um, it's a program that I just updated everyone about our rent relief program. So the council did provide additional funding to CSA to continue their rent relief program, um, additional $1000000 for um, direct relief as well as, left some discretionary funding to CSA to provide other financial assistance that's needed. Um, for residents um, who are in need. So that 1000000 will be, um, as I mentioned, some of that will be added to the rent review program. There is also a program that has been launched by the county in conjunction with the city of San Jose. I believe it is around $60000000 that's going to be a countywide rent relief program to help people after the moratorium ends. There are also state funds that are available that people can apply for once the moratorium ends. And we are working right now on outreach efforts to make sure that our residents understand and know about this time frame for the moratorium. And in my next update in June, I expect to be able to provide some further details about those programs that are available and we do plan to get the word out to residents about those available programs.

[02:18:53] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great. Thank you. Council member Reaper.

[02:18:55] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Thank you, Mayor. Um, I, I think I noticed that, um, there's more, uh, money left in the, the program than has already been expended. And I know that we're not, um, completely in control of how things work out exactly in their restrictions and some of the monies. Um, But it looks like consistently, folks, so not getting, there's an enormous drop off between getting one month and 2 months, and then like, a completely enormous drop off between, you know, who gets one month or 2 months and who gets the full 3 months? And um, I just wonder, um. We're pretty far into things. Our, Folks, um, uh, have they already given up, um, along the way or, um, How can we, Urge our partners to get the rest of the money out the door.

[02:20:11] City Manager Kimbra McCarthy: Council member labor, uh, we have been in discussions with the community services agency, our CSA, um, which is our partner, what administers the rent money program. Um, I know that they have hired extra staff. Um, and they are generally trying to work through the applications as fast as they can, but we can certainly convey the urgency to them. I know that they're well aware of it, um, just via all the clients that they're serving, um, but we can certainly look into the number of months that have been provided and um, provide an update about that.

[02:20:48] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Thank you.

[02:20:51] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Thank you, Counselor Mata check.

[02:20:54] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Thanks. So I'm wondering, um, you know, it's important to, um, which the tenants in the community, but I think it's also important to reach the landlords. Um, it seems like it would be more efficient to communicate the landlords about the things that are available for them. Because then they wouldn't be relying on so many tenants to apply for those funds. When you could have one landlord, maybe apply for 6 or 7 because it's their property. Um, how much outreach are we doing to the landlords? Because I really don't think there should be the case where, um, a tenant is evicted or potentially evicted, um, for nonpayment of rent, when there are funds available for either the tenant or the landlord.

[02:21:49] City Manager Kimbra McCarthy: Thank you, Councilman Romatic. So our CSFI staff has been doing considerable outreach to both landlords and tenants. I believe that they just hosted a landlord seminar. If not today, it was within the last few days. Um, they have, um, had not always several webinars, but also, um, have provided mailers. Um, they do reach out directly. They also provide resources in English, Spanish, Chinese as well. So I do believe that those staff have really tried to make broad outreach efforts to both tenants and landlords for the very reasons that you mentioned.

[02:22:33] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Do we have any idea of the status of, um, How many? Words have been made whole by either our relief efforts or the states or any other means of getting funds, so that we have some idea of, um, how many more we need to reach in terms of the tenants and the limits. Do you have any idea how things are going? We're talking about a lot of tech.

[02:23:05] City Manager Kimbra McCarthy: I't know the answer to that right now. However, I can ask staff and we can look into that and bring an answer back. I'm not sure if we have that data. Um, but we can, I can certainly find out and um, come back to council with an answer.

[02:23:20] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Okay, great. Thank you.

[02:23:24] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Thank you, Council member Hicks.

[02:23:26] Councilmember Alison Hicks: So, I'm wondering whether the nature of council member Lieber's question was more, um, whether, um, uh, whether we were getting, whether CSA had adequate staff to get the checks out the door and process the request, or whether it was more about whether there was a hesitancy to give out secondary and especially 3rd checks to people, uh, And city manager, you answered more the 1st question. I'm wondering if we, I know that when we 1st established the fund, there was, you know, naturally, we wanted everybody to get one check before people started getting 2 and 3, but I wonder if there's been any shift, they would talk about that, you know, that at this point, maybe there's some people with real problems and a 3rd check would be, uh, would be helpful. Um, I, I'm just wondering if you know whether that conversation has has happened yet.

[02:24:27] City Manager Kimbra McCarthy: I think I don't remember Hicks. So yes, I do know that staff has had conversations with CSA and uh, Tom Myers about uh, you know, the 1st 2nd or 3rd months of funding. There have been residents who have received 2 and 3 months of funding. I think they're trying to triage and they've received so many requests, but they're getting through all those requests, but staff have certainly had those conversations with Mr. Myers in terms of the 1st part of your question, or staffing, which, yes, you mentioned that I did, um, respond to that. I know that they have just really considerably ramped up their efforts in staffing just to get through this program. But again, that is certainly a conversation that staff can have again with CSA and see where we're at and see what we might be able to do.

[02:25:21] Councilmember Alison Hicks: Okay, thank you.

[02:25:25] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. Any other questions? All right. Thank you so much, city manager McCarthy, for your update. We look forward to the next one and it sounds like we'll be investigating something information. So look forward to hearing about that as well. Great. So we can move on to item four, which is our consent calendar. These items will be approved by one motion unless any member of the council wishes to remove an item for discussion. The reading of the full text of resolutions and ordinances. They'll be waived unless they cancel other requests otherwise. A motion to approve the consent calendar should include the reading of the title and resolutions attached to items 4.3, 4.5, 4.6 and 4.10. Would any member of the council like to pull an item?

[02:26:12] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Council or show alter.

[02:26:16] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Well, I'm not even really poet. I'd like to comment on it And that's the um, 4.8, the um, comprehensive model plan. Um, I would really like to know more about this than just goes through the consent counter and I would like us to, um, advertise it to the community and educate the community about it more. So, um, I just wanted to voice that, that, um, feeling. I mean, we got a tremendous amount of public, um, involvement to get this plan done and, um, I know it went through the BPAC. Um, But still in all, I feel like this final, this is putting it on the consent calendar is kind of a, Aquatic, coming out very quietly. And, um, so I'm just wondering if there were any plans to have, you know, have a, um, a seminar at the library about it or, you know, some, some way to share this more with the, with the community then has been done today.

[02:27:21] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great. Thank you, Counselor Mr. Walter. I think that sounded kind of like a question comment. And so I'll wait for, I think, um, If our public works directors to hear, Ms. Cameron, maybe she can answer your question on that. Is that what you're looking for?

[02:27:38] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Yeah, yes.

[02:27:39] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Okay. Okay. So I'm gonna wait for perhaps her to move over to the virtual stage. Oh, and here she is. Perfect.

[02:27:50] Public Works Director Don Cameron: I just came in. Um, hello, Don Cameron, public works director. I appreciate the sentiment council member, Michelle Walter. We're very proud of this plan, as you as you noted, it not only had quite a bit of public engagement, but also thorough review by the beat pack or 3 or 4 separate reader, as well as our council transportation committee. Um, you know, one of the reasons it came to our consent is because one of, we really wanted to make sure it was finished this fiscal year and council has very, very full agenda, so it's very challenging. So I'd like to take your question and make it into a suggestion to us. as staff that we go ahead and I'm doing a little bit more of, you know, a public event, uh, you know, as we reach out with our BPAC and so on. We can promote this more. We do plan to have it be a living document, and it's going to be very present as we produce the active transportation plan. So we'll make sure it gets a lot more daylight and recognition for what it is as we proceed with our work.

[02:29:00] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Good. Good. I, um, I, because I think it really deserves it. And, um, I think like you were saying, it, it, it, um, it provides information that's a background for going forward and we want to make sure that people have the benefit of that background. And, um, and I also do think that, you know, library programs, um, now we can have some of them in person, but those workshops, you know, they put on a, a tremendous, uh, range of programs at the library and they're very popular, so that, that might be a possibility. Thank you.

[02:29:33] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Thank you. Counselor.

[02:29:35] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Thank you. I'm going to pull item uh 410 and I mostly just have questions about it. Do you want me to ask those now?

[02:29:45] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Um, maybe I'll go through um, the rest of the council and then we can come back. Is that possible? Okay, with you? Okay,

[02:29:53] Mayor Ellen Kamei: great. All right, so I've marked that 410. Um, cancel over Hicks.

[02:30:00] Councilmember Alison Hicks: Yeah, I just wanted to, I don't know how our comments are organized here. I just wanted to support council members show Walter's comment that, um, and also the suggestions that, um, that, uh, Ms. Cameron made. I think that there, I have heard interest from the public on, as you said, this camera more, um, daylight on this document. And, um, in particular, as as councilman mutual welter also mentioned that earlier, um, some comments on, uh, pedestrianism, maybe ways to, um, uh, beef that up a little. And, um, related fans. And I, I like hearing that it's a living document because I, I think there is public interest in continu to have input on the subject. So, I support that.

[02:30:51] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. Councilman Believer.

[02:30:54] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Thank you, Mayor. Um, well, um, item 4.one I wanted to abstain on the minutes that were from 2019 in 2020. And, um, Then, uh, um, Item 4.3 I just wanted to recognize that we did receive a letter from the honor of Dana Street roasting, which is one of our very long-term Anchor businesses that provides a safe space and so much more in the downtown. With concerns about how this movement was being constructed. Um, And, um, So I, I don't have a lot of objection to the item, but I did want to recognize that that letter that came in. And then on 4.8, Um, I, too, I'm glad to hear that this is a living document and we heard about that in council transportation. Um, I think so much good work has gone into this, and if I had just one uh, wish list item, it would be to include, um, the needs of people with disabilities in the equity discussion, um, sections of it. And then, um, I support pulling uh, 4.10 uh, for discussion. Thank you.

[02:32:28] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. Uh, canceling your show, Walter.

[02:32:33] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Yes, I, I, I would just, as, um, council member Leder said, I, I don't feel comfortable voting on the minutes from the meetings that when I wasn't on council, so I'd like to abstain from them. Thank you.

[02:32:47] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Okay, great. So I hear, um, abstentions from council number, Shelter, and Weeber, on football one, and then pulling item 4.10. Correct? So can we, do we, perhaps we can do a motion for the balance of the, of the items and then we can discuss 4.10? Vice mayor Ramirez?

[02:33:14] Vice Mayor Lucas Ramirez: I'm happy to make the motion. Do you want to take public comment after I do or before?

[02:33:23] Mayor Ellen Kamei: I think before would be better.

[02:33:26] Vice Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thanks very much, okay.

[02:33:27] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great. All right. So if anyone has any public comment on Item 4 or consent calendar, please feel free to raise your hand in Zoom or press Starlight on your phone. I will display the 2 minute timer. Alexander Brown.

[02:33:55] Alexander Brown: I also like the idea of basic income. I think that's a great, just theoretical concept, and I would love to see some concrete implementations. Thanks.

[02:34:05] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. You sing, then?

[02:34:10] Public Speaker: Thank you, Mary, you hear me okay?

[02:34:12] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Yes, I hear you.

[02:34:13] Public Speaker: Okay, yeah, just a comment on 4.8 the Axis Mountain View item. Echo at the council member said that all sounds great. I've also taken a lot of questions and so on from members of the community. We're interested in this. not being familiar with it and also wanting to see it, what I've had to do is point them to meeting agendas, to find draft versions of the file. So now with it being approved, presumably it will be approved. And um, that the final copy will be available on the website and then easily located by members of the public. And having um, events, the library and things like that, yeah, I think that'll be great and also will help to publicize the other plans and projects that public works is covering for uh, pedestrians and bicycles. Thank you.

[02:35:00] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Thank you. All right. I think that concludes our public comment so we can bring it back to the vice mayor.

[02:35:12] Vice Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you, Mayor. So I'll go ahead and move to Kim's, the content calendar, uh, with 4.10 polled, uh, and that will include 4.3, adopt a resolution of the city council of the city of Mountain View, appointing the Mountain View Chamber of Commerce, as the advisory board for the downtown Mountain View, Business Improvement Area, number one, and business, Business Improvement Area, number 2, and authorizing the city manager to execute a contract for services, with the Mountain View Chamber of Commerce, to accomplish the purposes of an allocuting, the The 2021 revenues from the business improvement areas. 4.5 adopt a resolution of intention of the city council of the city of Mountain View to vacate public easements at 400 Logue Avenue. 4.6 adopt a resolution of the city council, the city of Mount New York, proving the final map of tracks number, uh, 554, 1555 West Millfield Road, accepting dedications, and making findings as required by the city code. Uh, and, uh, noting the abstensions from, uh, council members, labor and show wealth report, 4.1.

[02:36:20] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. Cancel over Hicks.

[02:36:23] Councilmember Alison Hicks: So I was 2nd out, but I was gonna, um, uh, try a friendly amendment to 4.3 um, uh, given the, that, um, well, we got an email from uh, the owner of the Dentistry Western Company, who I generally like, I have liked the idea it's suggested in 4.3 and uh, talked to Mr. Katz about it and been very happy with the kinds of things he's been suggesting. But I do take seriously also what the the data street roasting company raised. I'm wondering if we could do this, like, pilot it for one year and evaluate it because I would like to see whether other, you know, other Damn Street resident company had been like a founding member of the DDA and highly involved. So I just like to make sure that we evaluate it at the end of the year and make sure it's working out for those downtown businesses. So is that something that you would accept, you know, just do it for one year and reevaluate?

[02:37:26] Vice Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Well, the reason I'm, well, 1st, uh, I did forward the email to staff, and I'm curious, the staff has a response, uh, to, uh, the, the comments in the email. I don't know if anyone is prepared to speak to those, but. Before I get my thoughts, I want to hear its dad's perspective.

[02:37:51] City Manager Kimbra McCarthy: Council member Ramirez, so no, staff did not have time to look into that or prepare a response. Um, I do know that this has been uh, Quite a consideration for the DBA and just through the, The challenges that they've had. So I think that we'll have to talk to staff further about what such a program might look like after a year, um, if it changes, but in terms of the question from the, um, owner, staff will need to look into that further.

[02:38:28] Vice Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Okay. Um, I, the, the, the reason I, so there are 2 reasons why I'm disinclined to accept the amendment, the 1st is, there doesn't appear to be a viable alternative, that this really is the only way we're going to be able to continue the programming, uh, that is made possible by the revenue collected by each of these, um, uh, the improvement areas. And I, I, I don't know what, if we decide, you know, the, I don't know why we would decide that it's not working with the, the chamber, and even if we were to decide it wasn't working, the only other option, maybe the dissolution of the improvement areas since the businesses there don't appear to have the capacity to continue operating in the way that the CBA had. Uh, and then the other is we approve. If I'm not mistaken, every year, we do, there's a decision that council has to make related to the allocation and programming of those funds. Is that correct? I just want to make sure I understand because I, I, I've seen this item. I think as uh, you know. It appear before the council annually and that may provide the check-in that you're seeking anyway. I see Tiffany has joined us.

[02:39:57] Business Development Specialist Tiffany Chew: Good evening, council members. Uh, uh, Vice now, you are correct. The BIA is mute on an annual basis in the fall.

[02:40:06] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Tiffany, do you mind introducing yourself for members of the public who don't who don't remember, please? Thank you.

[02:40:12] Business Development Specialist Tiffany Chew: yes No problem. This is Tiffany 2 Business Developments, specialist with the city. And the BIA is renewed on an annual basis, and that is a time where council can renew the actions that were taking place during that year and determine if the organization should move forward and the organization being the chamber of commerce.

[02:40:38] Vice Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Okay, thank you. That's very helpful. So council member Hicks, is that a reasonable check-in point?

[02:40:46] Councilmember Alison Hicks: Yeah, if we give it a, you know, if it's not on, maybe if it's not on consent and it's actually kind of a formal enough, you know, I don't need that formal. You know, a good enough review that the businesses lay in if they feel like it's not working or, you know, I, the email refers to not paying, you know, so that we can work through some of those issues if they arise. If that's a good enough form to do it, then I would, then I would 2nd it. And I would, I would trust Ms. Chewick, she's telling us that it's a good enough form, or maybe she wants to answer that question, is that you can need for them to get through those things.

[02:41:32] Business Development Specialist Tiffany Chew: We have been working with the chamber. This is Tiffany Chi, again, business development specialist, and we have been working with the chamber through this process to develop the work plan that allows them to demonstrate what they plan to do to support the downtown businesses. This process was also initiated through the downtown business association, the board of directors at that time. So the study of this process began through the DBA and then them talking with the Chamber regarding what the next steps should be, which led us to this evening's council item.

[02:42:16] Councilmember Alison Hicks: Okay, well, that seems sufficient to make them.

[02:42:23] Mayor Ellen Kamei: So was that a 2nd to the original motion, cancel number?

[02:42:27] Councilmember Alison Hicks: I'm sorry, I wasn't saying. Yes, that's the 2nd to the original.

[02:42:31] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Okay. All right. So we have the motion by vice mayor Ramirez, and then 2nded as as it was proposed by council member Hicks. Any further clarifications on the motion at hand? All right, not seeing any, we'll turn to city a clerk laser for the World Cup.

[02:42:51] City Clerk Heather Glaser: Thanks, ma'am. Yes. Council member Hicks? Yes.

[02:42:57] City Clerk Heather Glaser: Council member Abby Kogos?

[02:42:58] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: I,

[02:42:59] City Clerk Heather Glaser: Council member, Lubert. Council member Mattachek?

[02:43:03] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Yes,

[02:43:03] City Clerk Heather Glaser: council membership.

[02:43:05] Unknown Speaker: Yes.

[02:43:06] City Clerk Heather Glaser: And me, Anthony?

[02:43:07] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Yes.

[02:43:08] City Clerk Heather Glaser: Motion case?

[02:43:09] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. So we'll move back to item 4.10, which is adopt a resolution of the city council, the city of Mountain View, committing city support for the principles of the mayors for guarantee income initiative, authorizing participation initiative, and expressing support for basic income, the cash phase pilot program in the city of Mountain View. I just wanted to generate that for those members of the public who might not know what 4.10 is before we get into discussion. So, um, customer we had a check, you originally pulled it. So I'd like to turn to you. I know you had a few questions.

[02:43:44] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Yeah, and I apologize. I probably should have asked this the 1st time this topic came up. But it kind of surprised me when it did. But I've thought about it more. And I guess I'd like to understand from the council members who proposed this. Um, what was your thought process and did you look at other options for doing something to um, help residents who might need some help? Um, other than this program, then we did get in one email at least from a member of the public suggesting um, a different program. So I guess I'd just like to understand, did you look at other programs and how did you land on this one? Thank you.

[02:44:35] Mayor Ellen Kamei: So, okay.

[02:44:38] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: Thank you, Mayor. Um, I guess I'll start um, since I was one of the uh, proponents. Um, yes, I have looked at a number of other programs. I think we've actually implemented some of them with things like rent relief, um, the direct assistance, and then with UBI, in a commercial basic income. Um, I've been, um, reading about it and, um, seeing the growing interest um, by cities to implement such a program. Um, I just thought this was a great opportunity with the ARPA funds and another way to, um, to, um, provide assistance, but also making long term. Um, it's a pilot program and part of that is to, um, collect data, to, um, be able to, you know, see the effects of, of, um, UBI and um, whether this might be, um, um, a more efficient or a better way, um, of providing assistance to those in need. So, um, it just, I think is just a combination of various factors that, um, that made me, um, want to bring this up. Hope that answers your question.

[02:46:03] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Yes, I'm not sure which other cats weber's, uh, previously thought about this, uh, to propose it. Uh, at the budget meeting. If they had anything to add, I'd love to hear it.

[02:46:18] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Okay, so to clarify those, council members who have their hands up, this is to answer council member Mattachek's question. Okay, so I'm going to call on the people who are nodding their head, yes. This is counselor, show alter, and council member, Lieber. Council member hits, um, do you have a question? Is that what that is? We can get to you next. Is that okay?

[02:46:39] Councilmember Alison Hicks: I have a comment, but you can save me for last.

[02:46:42] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Perfect. Great. Thank you. Council member, Shelter.

[02:46:47] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Yeah, just adding on to what council member Abikoga said. Um, I've done some reading, um, over the last few years and and I keep coming back to um, sociologists and economists who are saying that this is a very effective public um, assistance methodology, and that, um, it's, uh, it does more good and it's, it's cheaper to administer than um, many of the other programs. And of course, Andrew Lang brought it up. In his, um, his campaigning that that sort of brought it to the forefront. But I think with anything like this. Um, doing small pilot projects is, um, is very important for learning about how they work. And we learned a tremendous amount in that Stockton project that was done a couple of years ago. And I just like to help add to that knowledge and also help our residents out. Clearly, there is a lot of need in our community.

[02:47:52] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Thank you, Councilman Believer.

[02:47:54] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Thank you, Mayor. Um, well, I'm um, very supportive of um, this type of an approach. I think that getting resources, uh, to people is is very key and and doing it in a non-bureaucratic way, um, which I believe that this would be. Um, when this came up at our previous meeting, It did come up as a little bit of an unknown. And, um, somewhat of a surprise, um, I think to most of us. And, um, so my understanding of things was that we would have more discussion about it, in the context of the budget, and then it would come back in that way. Um, So I feel a little bit uncomfortable with a couple parts of the resolution that's before us tonight. Um, Because I think that just, um, having it come up very informally before, and then, um, now being on consent doesn't really allow for the discussion, and I think that we need to hear, I'd like to see us talk about things like, um, we'd be conducting the program ourselves. Or would we have a community partner such as, um, the mission asset fund or, um, someone who has more experience than than we do, um, in these types of programs. And so I can wholeheartedly support the resolution, and I think it's a very good thing for us to hear of the mayor participating in this initiative. Um, but I'm, I'm not comfortable with the last Veras clause. And with, um, the number 3 bullet point at, at the end. Um, because I think that we are kind of, um, jumping in with both feet. And the process has been a little bit ad hoc. Um, till now. And my supposition was that when we had the, the budget come before us that we would have a fuller discussion. So this is kind of jumping from our previous, let's explore this to, okay, this is our strategy. And, um, people from the community have come forward to say, you know, this is a strategy, and it may be the best one. I think it's a very strong one. And and something that we should pursue. Um, But I think that somehow the, the process has gotten a little bit uh, less transparent than than it really needs to be. And before we commit to, um, we are, you know, this is our, our initiative that we're going to move forward with. I think that we should have an item where we have open discussion. And where the community weighs in. I know that the last item that we had, most of the discussion that took place was, I believe, after we closed public comment. And things kind of just came together and, and I think it's important to, you know, utilize those magic moments when they happen in the policy making process, but also to to ventilate the issue. And, um, I know that it's, it's strong enough to, um, stand on its own and to make, um, good sense, but I think we're kind of jumping from A to C here.

[02:52:06] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Thank you, Councilman Willieber. I counseling manage check. I know if you have more questions, but I think that there is some, maybe, maybe we could turn this out for some clarification on the process and I think that, that was brought forward by casting over Lieber. So I'd like to turn to that. Do you have more questions or?

[02:52:22] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: No, I actually had comments on the process. I agree with everything, council member labor just said.

[02:52:29] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Okay. So I'm going to ask city manager McCarthy, perhaps you can answer some of the, or kind of clarify.

[02:52:36] City Manager Kimbra McCarthy: Sure. Thank you, mayor. Council member, Mattachek and Labor. So in terms of where staff is at right now, um, the MGI on the marriage for a guaranteed income initiative, um, did come out of the Stockton initiative. So staff has every expectation to be bringing this back to council and to get significant public outreach and certainly public feedback. Uh, the challenge that we have is because this is such a unique pilot program, um, the MGI initiative will help staff provide will help provide staff resources, then even starting the process of learning about what a good pilot program is. So really the intention was that we would, um, should counsel approve, that we would join this initiative to get, um, hands on help from them in developing a program, learning about best practices. They also have 2 data researchers that help them with the Stockton program. They were professors from 2 universities that I can't remember which ones, but 2 very large, well-known universities who actually helped figure out what the data collection would be and analyze that, those resources and researchers are also available to help staff and help the city kind of figure out what our program might be. So this was really, um, just the kind of the 1st step and staff starting to kind of do that like work to even figure out what what a potential program or what sort of recommendations we can bring back to council. Um, there will not be a recommendation with the budget just because this is something, it wasn't enough time. Uh, we probably made uh, few more months to actually do a lot more research with, um, the cities that have universal basic income programs and also just learn about how to put a program together. Um, to your question, council member labor about whether the city uh, will be, um, launching this or having a community partner. It is my expectation that yes, we would need to have a community partner on this, so that'll also be part of the learning process over the next few months. So this really was just an attempt for staff to be able to have help, frankly, before we really embark on this process, and it is free. But the MGI staff can help give us hands on help for free and have been very eager already to provide us numerous resources. Staff has also, I'll just wrap up quickly, but I do think in support, it's important to note that staff has also already scheduled and had many meetings with community partners and other cities that have had UBI programs. We also have meetings actually tomorrow with the city of South San Francisco, but wants to UBI program, and also with Stanford Basic Income Lab. So there's a lot of work to be done with this, the light work before we do plan on bringing an item back to council this fall. I'd imagine it would probably be in August or September for you all to consider what a program might look like and then give your policy direction on it after we've done analysis and leg work.

[02:56:01] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Thanks, the manager McCarthy. It was the University of Pennsylvania that they have a school of social policy and practice in a center for guaranteed income that accessed the researchers. So, um, and I see Cousin Armada Chicks hand it down. I like to build a castle number hicks, and I think had some comments. And then I'll go to council number Leaver, if that's okay. Okay, all right, council member hicks. Thank you for being so patient.

[02:56:26] Councilmember Alison Hicks: Well, it turns out my guy. I don't have much left to say because it turns out my comma's a pretty similar to what council member, not a check company, and the labor said, Yeah, but this came, although I'm very much in support of a pilot. I think it's good to get, you know, the really definitely a time of great need and it's good to get cash out to folks as simply as possible. At the same time, I'm getting feedback at the same time, I came really quick. for such a big program. Um, and I am getting feedback from some of the people concerned such as some people tell me that they were presented that there might be different ways to implement this. Um, so I like the part of the letter I like says that we should participate, I'm quoting, participate in a narrative. And I would just like to make sure that counsel and the public has to participate in the narrative about how to use ARP funds and make sure that, you know, make sure that it doesn't go by a little too fast. And it sounds like, you know, what other people are saying it sounds like that's kind of the direction we're taking.

[02:57:38] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Thank you, Counselor Reeper.

[02:57:43] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Thank you, Mayor. I, uh, I'm definitely supportive of participation in, um, the MGI initiative and and being able to reap the benefits of all the research and and the good things that are out there. Um, but I, Do want to note that we have a very robust with a very wonky population in Mountain View. Um, People like to consume a lot of information and and think about it and work with it in a very sophisticated way. And, um, I think that we could, Join the initiative and do the research because I, I, I think that just from the comments that have come up before and now that people do support, um, methodologies and mechanisms for, um, increasing resources in the community. But I wonder if we might just, um, last where I was. Um, Just, uh, see, the city Mountain View desires to commit its support for the principles of the MGI initiative. Um, And then, Um, Um, Um, Um, Number 3, just express our support, um, for basic, uh, income and then allow the conversation to take place with the community. Um, because that's the missing element. Um, If it's not going to be part of the budget process, then we do have the time to ventilate the issue. And I believe that the proposal is strong. and is not going to fall apart. Um, from, from the community participation. Um, side of things, but I think that we should allow that conversation to, uh, to take place.

[03:00:08] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Thank you. Cancel that revival check.

[03:00:11] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Thanks. And so I was also going to suggest, um, some tweaks to the rating of the resolution, and it's in the same 2 areas, the council member, just, uh, noted. And, um, I am very interested in exploring this and figuring out what would work for Mountain View, but I feel like this, um, resolution has kind of jumped to, we're doing this, um, without a good discussion and without the parameters around it. And I feel like I'd be comfortable if we had the time and we had the conversations to come up with the program before we. So clearly stated that we're doing this. So I would support making the resolution a little bit, uh, more gear toward the exploration of these things and joining the MGI initiative. Thanks.

[03:01:06] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Thank you, Council mother, Abi Koda.

[03:01:09] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: Thank you. So, um, I've actually received quite a bit of messages saying they do support, um, this pilot project and, um, reading the resolution. I don't think it commits us to anything. It just says that we support the basic income pilot program, doesn't say we're going to do it. Um, so this is really from the way I looked at this and as the city manager explained it. It's really for us to be able to access the mayors for guaranteed income program and the technical assistance that I think we need to make a to craft a program. And we will have opportunity later to, um, air outdoor issues as someone mentioned. So, um, I'd like to go ahead and make a motion, um, as is, um, and that is 4.10, adopt a resolution of the city council, the city of Mountain View, committing city support for the principles of the mayors for a guaranteed income initiative, authorizing participation in an initiative, and expressing support for basic income, a cash-based pilot program in the city of Mountain View. Thank you.

[03:02:17] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. Thanks, Mary Ramirez.

[03:02:21] Vice Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you, there. I'll go ahead and 2nd the motion and just a few quick thoughts. Uh, so I, I, I, 1st I, I, I remember the, the discussion we had uh, in allocating the 7.50000000 roughly from the ARPA funds, and this is, I think, one of 4 primary tailors. There were other things that we, we've discussed, but uh, the 1st was, uh, strengthening the small business, uh, relief or grant program that we have, uh, to help ensure that people are able to, uh, remain employed. That's obviously critical. Um, there were 2 separate direct financial assistance programs that were exploring. One is the conventional program, uh, operated through CSA, uh, $750,000 there, plus an additional 250 that they may choose to allocate to that program or to other programs, uh, based on the need that they're envisioning or that they're seeing, uh, another direct financial assistance program that's operated by the solidarity fund, which I know staff is exploring, and then the universal basic, basic income. program, which, uh, unique among the, the, the programs that we're exploring, uh, is able to attract, uh, not only, uh, private philanthropic contributions, as we've seen with other programs, um, that have been other pilots that have been, uh, implemented nationwide, but also, uh, a potential state funding source, one of the things that Weaven and Newsom highlighted was uh, several $100000000 to supplement local UBI pirate programs. And I'm personally, you know, a big proponent of direct financial assistance and, you know, it's something that we've been talking about for a while. But, but I think UBI has right now. It's, it's, you know, it's, it, I think it, it really is unique and potentially serving as as an attractor of additional funding to supplement the program that we implement. And it's also a sustained program. Direct financial assistance is great. It gets people through a pinch. You know, I think it's going to be absolutely essential. You know, once the eviction moratorium expires, you know, helping people climb out of credit debt, but UBI lifts people out of poverty in a way that one time direct financial assistance just can't. Um, and I think the last point is, I think several members of the council have, uh, have expressed, you know, we, there's still a lot of work that we have to do. I think the council is going to see and touch this a few more times. Uh, we still have to decide the parameters of the program. Uh, the institutions that we're going to partner with to just, to distribute the funding, um, and I think those, those will be really good opportunities to talk about a lot of the, the concerns that have been, uh, expressed here. But I think this is a key, uh, 1st step, you know, what are the best practices, you know, connecting with the technical experts and and, um, uh, making sure that staff have, uh, the support that they need to implement those, um, and if we decide not to pursue it, you know, the resolution doesn't start the program. We still have to start it, but it does give us access to resources, uh that I think will be essential that they want to ensure the success of the program.

[03:05:54] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Thank you, Council and Believer.

[03:05:56] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Thank you, you're here. Um, well, in our last meeting, I was, I was very proud of the, the 2nd door on the maker, without actually knowing where they were trying to go, um, with what they were doing, um, And I am supportive of the policy overall. So I, I definitely don't want to vote against uh, the resolution, but I, I think that we can, um, have a little more openness without um, doing damage to it. So I'd like to suggest an amendment. And that would be in the title of the resolution, um, saying a resolution of the city council, the city mountain view, committing city support for the principles of the mayors for guaranteed income initiative, authorizing participation in the initiative. And then in the last world, as well as the city of Mountain View desires to commit its support for the principles of the MGI initiative. And then in number 3 and the last paragraph, the city council expresses its support for basic income. And I'd like to make that my uh, amendment.

[03:07:18] Mayor Ellen Kamei: So I think just to clarify, it's an alternate motion, right? Are you asking the motion maker to make the amendment?

[03:07:26] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Um, No, I don't want to, um, uh... You know, force them to do something that they're not on board with. Um, but I think that these are reasonable amendments and it sounds like there are possibly 4 people. Um, that, that are desiring these moments. So I'd like to offer them as an amendment to the main motion. And see if there's someone who would be willing to 2nd this amendment.

[03:08:04] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Right, so then, sorry, just to clarify it, and I'll look to the city attorney, the city clerk, then that would be an alternate motion. So I think that what you're asking for is not the amendments from the motion maker and the seconder, that you're actually proposing an alternate motion with a second.

[03:08:21] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Uh, it can be an alternate motion, but, um, The way that I put it forward is an amendment, the name motion. Um, but uh, either way. I I don't want to blow their their motion out of the water. Um, but I think on the Roberts rolls, the way that I've been taught to do it is to, uh, amend the main motion.

[03:08:47] City Attorney Krishan Chopra: I think the best approach here would be to ask the motion maker and the seconder, if they are comfortable with your emotion, and if they're not, for example, then you could make a substitute motion and see if there's a 2nd for that. But I would, I would like to get clarity, uh, for your proposed amendment to the title of the ordinance. I didn't quite get that. I think I have the others.

[03:09:20] Councilmember Sally Lieber: I'm suggesting that the title be a resolution of the city council, or the city of Mountain View, committing city support for the principles of the mayors for a guaranteed income initiative. I, I, I, I, I, I, initiative, period.

[03:09:34] City Attorney Krishan Chopra: Okay. Thank you. Thank you.

[03:09:38] City Attorney Krishan Chopra: So I would, um, you could ask the motion maker on the secondary, if they're comfortable with those amendments to the title, the last, whereas, and the 3rd term.

[03:09:50] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Um, would the maker and secondary like to accept those uh, friendly suggestions?

[03:09:59] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: So, um, I actually had a question for uh, staff as to whether we need to adopt the resolution as um, originally drafted, uh, For MGI or can we change it? Uh,

[03:10:18] City Manager Kimbra McCarthy: Thank you, Counselor, my Abe Koga. So um, I was actually just uh, trying to determine that with staff. I do believe that we will still be able to join One of the things that staff was aiming to do is to position us well with the state in order to receive state matching funds. Um, I think that will probably still be able to do that um, with the amendments, but um, That is, um, That is how staff recommended that and why.

[03:10:54] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: Oh, so, and in light of that, to just be, um, I guess more, uh, sure of being able to, um, be positioned, um, for opportunities. I think it's best for us to stay with the original language. So I will stay with that.

[03:11:20] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Okay, then, um, I'd like to go ahead and make a substitute motion uh, with the language that I've already suggested.

[03:11:30] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Counselor, not a check.

[03:11:33] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Oh, 2nd that substitute motion.

[03:11:36] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Okay. So, I think at this time we have a substitute motion by counseling of the reaper, seconded by Counselor Batachek. And I think at this time I will go to public comment unless council members have other comments they'd like to make before you turn to public comments on this item. Okay, seeing none, I'll open it for public comment. Would any member of the public on the line like to provide, on this item? If so, please click the raise handbending zoo, or press start on on your phone, we'll display a 2 minute timer. Alexander Brown.

[03:12:09] Alexander Brown: I did not think I was gonna get a 2nd chance to comment on this. So, yeah. The rubbish rules is fun, huh? Uh, I would like to come out strongly and support of just a basic income in theory, and I think that the 1st step is committing to like moving down this road and saying, yes, we are interested this is something we want to do. We want to explore, this is a way that we want to help the people of the city, to be able to thrive by providing them the means to exist. Uh, And I get that, you know, we we want a lot of public comment. We want people to know that this is happening, that this is something that is available, that this is how we're hearing, and I totally support that. But I also think that taking the 1st step of moving forward and saying, yeah, no, there's a bunch of people who are trying to do this, we want to work together on this, is good. And so I would like to just take the opportunity to say that. Yes. Let's move forward. Do something. I think it's cool. Basic income. I'd like it to be universal. I recognize it's almost always being sensitive, but, you know, baby steps. Thank you.

[03:13:23] Mayor Ellen Kamei: They, thank you. All right, this concludes public comment, so we'll bring it back to council. Council member, we bring your hand is raised. Did you have them out here?

[03:13:36] Councilmember Sally Lieber: No,

[03:13:36] Mayor Ellen Kamei: okay. No, no problem. I just want to make sure we have our best discussion. I want to make sure everyone's heard. And apologies for saying alternate instead of substitute. That's what I meant, substitute motion. Um, okay, so, um, I just want to give this opportunity before we do the wall call where the people have comments. I'd like to make some since I haven't had a bite of the apple yet. Um, which is, um, I will not be supporting the substitute motion. Um, I, uh, felt supportive of the original motion. Um, and the reason is this. I, I feel like the vice mayor summed it up quite nicely and had comments, so I don't want to radiate it too much. Um, The state has put forth $350000 in support of cities and counties that are going forward with universal basic income pilot program. Our city and city staff has been extremely resourceful when it's come to working to match dollars with the state. And I really want to make sure that we can in every way possible. Um, you know, have access to that grant funding, have access to the resources to make sure that this is implemented. And My, my, my supportive UBI is twofold. One, from the community members who've heard about us moving in this direction. I've heard... and people who are not supported. I think that just today I participated in a panel where they asked, oh, can we add matching dollars to whoever will administer the UBI program. So I think there's a lot of excitement. And then the other is, I would say there's a great need. I think the COVID-19 pandemic exasperated, the disparities that we already see in Silicon Valley that we already see in our city and people need assistance and they need it now. And they are asking their local governments to be creative, be flexible, and this funding would be no strings attached funding to help with them out of poverty. And I really believe in that, as a way to create substantive change in people's lives in a way that's good. So that's why I felt I want to support the original motion. So I just wanted to clarify that before we moved forwarding. Hopefully at the end of the day, we'll go forward with something. I know there's more questions or want an open process, but I guess I saw tonight as a 1st step. You know, it's the 1st date. We're not getting married yet. So, um, I just, so that was my level of comfort knowing that we would have a greater opportunity to discuss and to kind of coalesce on what the process forward would be, um, and the program implementation. So we'll turn it over to city, uh, city clerk glacier for the World Cup.

[03:16:36] Interim City Clerk Silvia Vonderlinden: Thank you. Chance number, Lever.

[03:16:40] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Hi.

[03:16:42] Interim City Clerk Silvia Vonderlinden: Counseling your money check?

[03:16:43] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Yes.

[03:16:45] Interim City Clerk Silvia Vonderlinden: Councilman Rally Koba?

[03:16:47] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: Hey.

[03:16:48] Interim City Clerk Silvia Vonderlinden: Counselor Hicks?

[03:16:50] Councilmember Alison Hicks: Yes.

[03:16:52] Interim City Clerk Silvia Vonderlinden: Council member, Shaw Walker?

[03:16:56] Councilmember Pat Showalter: No.

[03:16:58] Interim City Clerk Silvia Vonderlinden: Place me on it.

[03:17:00] Vice Mayor Lucas Ramirez: No.

[03:17:01] Interim City Clerk Silvia Vonderlinden: Okay.

[03:17:03] Mayor Ellen Kamei: No,

[03:17:03] Interim City Clerk Silvia Vonderlinden: motion class.

[03:17:06] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Thank you. So then I think it goes back to the original motion. Is that correct? City Train Show book. correct.

[03:17:13] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great. So shall we do a real call or motion? Oh, Councilman Believer, see you ahead.

[03:17:21] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Thank you, Mayor. Well, I'd like to strongly suggest that I do believe that the original motion will pass and I definitely want to support UPI. But I'd like to suggest in the strongest terms possible, that we have an item that is not on the consent agenda, that is a regular item as soon as possible. Um, Before, uh, the perception is out there amongst the public that we're just, you know, going ahead without, um, a visible item. And I think we've inadvertently had some of the conversations tonight and surfaced, um, some of the questions, like, would we have community partners, um, We do this ourselves, how, how would it be structured? Um, but I, I think that there's enough of a discussion there to have an actual visible agenda item. Because although the consent agenda is out there, I think it's much less visible to the public. And um, I know that we're trying to use consent more and more. Now, and that has pluses and minuses. We've now spent a huge amount of time on something that was on consent about the fact that it was on consent. Instead of being more transparent and, um, no, visible to the community.

[03:19:13] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. Did staff have any any comments or anything that they'd like to say before we've gone to the raw comment?

[03:19:21] City Manager Kimbra McCarthy: Uh, uh, thank you, Mayor. Yes, so too, council member, we were suggestion. absolutely. We will bring this back to council on the regular agenda and, um, we'll outline all those considerations that you have discussed. Um, and that was the intended um, path forward.

[03:19:44] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Okay, great. Thank you. All right. So, uh, we'll move on to roll call. City Clerk Blazer.

[03:19:53] Interim City Clerk Silvia Vonderlinden: Council member, Abbe Kunga?

[03:19:55] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: Hi,

[03:19:56] Interim City Clerk Silvia Vonderlinden: I'm Sam Ramirez.

[03:19:58] Vice Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Yes.

[03:19:59] Interim City Clerk Silvia Vonderlinden: Yes.

[03:20:00] Councilmember Alison Hicks: Yes.

[03:20:02] Interim City Clerk Silvia Vonderlinden: Council member, Nathan?

[03:20:03] Councilmember Sally Lieber: I,

[03:20:04] Interim City Clerk Silvia Vonderlinden: Council member Matichek?

[03:20:07] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Yes.

[03:20:08] Interim City Clerk Silvia Vonderlinden: Council member, Shelter?

[03:20:10] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Yes.

[03:20:11] Interim City Clerk Silvia Vonderlinden: May I come?

[03:20:13] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Yes.

[03:20:14] Interim City Clerk Silvia Vonderlinden: Washington case?

[03:20:15] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great. Thank you. All right, so we'll move on to item 5, which is all communications. This portion of the meeting is reserved for persons wishing to address the council on any matter not on the agenda. Speakers are allowed to speak on any topic for up to 3 minutes during this section. State law prohibits the council from acting on nonagenda items. With any member of the public on the line like to provide comment on this item. If so, please click the raise hand button and zoom or press start on your phone. It will display a 2 minute timer for you. Sorry 3 minutes. No, you see. See? I think you have to accept the unmute. All right, we'll come back to you, Marie. Bruce England?

[03:21:31] Bruce England: Thank you, Mia. Can we be okay?

[03:21:32] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Yeah.

[03:21:33] Bruce England: I, um, would like to request something for council to take up. And I recognize that your June agendas are extremely full. I've looked at them and you know more about them than I do. However, um, the school resource officer program through the schools, uh, is something worthy of your attention. And what I'd like to request is that you establish a study session or request it from staff where you can review the current program. And um, But this will help advise the new public safety advisory border, PeaceSab, on their work. They're a brand new advisory body and they're seeking as much input from you as they can get to help them establish their work plan and their starting agendas. I'm hoping that they will have as much flexibility as possible when they start the work plan, but I expect that the SRL program will be one of the 1st things they want to look at. And if you are able to review the program and all the ramifications that go with it, um, If not before they meet, probably going to be after they initially meet, but, um, As soon as you can, it will just help advise their work on this. As you know, Los Altos has already gone over this and they've pulled their funding for the SRL program and that means that it's it kind of runs on Mountain View to figure out what they want to do in response. And also Mandy's a bit of an outlier by paying for the SLL program, themselves instead of having the school district pay for it. Um, other cities nearby. That's the way they judge through the district. Los Altos was like Moundview but now they've pulled their funding. Um, and it seems that you ought to look at the, at the costs and benefits. And is it really appropriate for armed officers, uniform officers to be on school campuses, how do students react to this? Students use are important, also staff, teachers. school counselors, everybody who's involved. I just think it's worthy of a review. So that's the request that you ask for a study session, either in June or that's not possible when you come back after the summer recess. Thank you.

[03:23:42] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Thank you. Chrissy Co.

[03:23:49] Chrissy Coe: Oh, hi, thank you. My name is Chrissy Coe, and I'm a student at high school, and I went to school in Mountain View my whole life, and I'd also went to comment on a student resource office program. Um, I'm not Review, and I remember seeing a resource officer on campus for the 1st time since I was in 6th grade and ever since then. And I've had the privilege of never having a terrible experience with school officers, but I've also never had a positive experience with them either. And I can testify to the feelings of fear and righteousness when officers walk through a campus that many of my friends can also relate to. And so I'm concerned with the practice of having armed police officers on campus. So I'd like to ask the city council to conduct a study session and a review on the state resource officer program at Mountain High School. Thank you.

[03:24:45] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Thank you. Tony, yeah?

[03:24:53] Tony Yang: Can you read?

[03:24:54] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Yes.

[03:24:55] Tony Yang: Great, thanks. Yeah, so I recently learned about the archery resoning proposal from the newspaper and I would like to provide some contact. Um, I live on the one app and I've looked there for 13 years and uh, that's a street that is affected by the winds on me, a project. It's, uh, for all the time that I've been there, it's been a quiet and sleepy street, and it's mostly single family homes on that street with a handful of very small apartment buildings, and so the building lights, they are currently one or 2 stories. So when I saw the proposal, I was quite shocked to see that it's 3.5 stories on paper. that are being proposed for this neighborhood, but with a 50% density bonus, we're looking at building heights that are 5 to 6 stories tall. So that's taller than the vast majority of the buildings that have gone out the run down Cabuo or Castro and racy gears. So, I mean, we're talking really big. So, um, somehow the staff report that I've read suggests that this is compatible with existing views, but I mean, how can anybody reasonably say that, you know, putting it on a 5 story building next to a one to 2 story building is compatible? I mean, I just really don't see it. Maybe if you go up running one story or so, that would become sort of compatible, but, you know, going several stories higher, it's just way beyond this. So, It's pretty obvious that this proposal will have lots of detrimental effects on the neighborhoods that I live in. So, uh, you know, like the green space is going to be lost because of the tight setbacks, the privacy in the backyards, lots of traffic will come and we're looking at increased anonymity or the buildings will look the same. So just to name some of the bad things that are going to happen. So, It will be unrecognizable if the proposal goes forward. So, we seem to be rolling out the red carpet here for the developers, but, Their incentives are just not aligned with maintaining high quality neighborhoods. So, They collect the proceeds from their projects and then they're on their way, right? But, uh, what are we going to do as the owners, right? We can't just pack up and leave. So, I think that this proposal is basically entirely at the expense of the people who are currently living here and old homes. So, These properties will be devalued because we're essentially gradually turning the whole place into a parking housing. And that's pretty much the opposite of what I want when you move there. So, um, I urge you to respect the owner's rights to maintain the character of the neighborhoods that we brought into. And this proposal is just highly unreasonable and overreaching. So please reconsiderate. Thank you.

[03:27:40] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Thank you. Radica?

[03:27:48] Radhika: Hi, thank you. I'd like to piggyback off of what some other people commented on my own student resource officers program. I am a student at Matt View High School and I would really appreciate if you consider conducting a study session sometime in June on the SMRs program. Um, I think it's really important that we, Um, We read this program as recently, Los Altos has reviewed the participation program and decided to um, step out of it. So I think it would be really important if we looked at how it impacts our schools as well. Thank you.

[03:28:29] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Thank you. Alexander Bell.

[03:28:44] Alexander Brown: I'd say that?

[03:28:45] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Yes,

[03:28:47] Alexander Brown: I think I was hardly muted. Sorry. Okay. Yeah, I wanted to agree with Tony. We shouldn't be putting 5 store building next to one store buildings. We should redevelop the one story buildings to make better use of that land because it's a waste. And I also don't want a bunch of buildings all look the same. I've long been a support of weird looking buildings, and I think that we need way more of them. The buildings these days are very sammy and boring, and I think that we should have more interesting character in the developments. Just make them weird. I'm also interested in a study session on SROs, so support the previous speakers. Thanks.

[03:29:24] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. All right, that concludes oral communications. So we'll bring it back to council and we'll move on to item six, which is public hearings. Our 1st item is 6.one, the 2020 urban water management plan and water shortage contingency plan. Water resources manager, Elizabeth Flegla, will present the staff report, public works director, Don Cameron, and assistant public works director, Lisa L, are available for any questions. Those with let's see. Hopefully you're making your way over.

[03:30:35] Water Resources Manager Elizabeth Flegal: So it took me so long. Good evening, I'm the members of the council. I was with, like, a lot of resources manager. Can you hear me okay? Excellent. Okay, I'm going to open up my presentation and try to share my screen. Okay. Um, you know, I'll be presenting on the city of Mountain View's 2020 urban water management plan update, which includes our water shortage contingency plan. Everyone management plan update is required every 5 years. The city's previous plan was updated in 2016 and the current plan is due to the state by July 1st. As part of its update, staff has notified neighboring water agencies and local resident business groups. And the public was given an opportunity to review the draft plan prior to this hearing. But every water management command links, mountain views, land use, and water planning efforts. It provides a long-term look at our ability to meet customer water needs. Also included is a description of our conservation efforts and the plan for responding to water shortage emergencies. The urban auto management plan analysis is based on improved general plan growth, which includes approximately a 50% increase in population and 30% increase in jobs that build out. As a result of this development, the city expects water use may increase by 35% over the next 25 years. The majority of mountain used water comes from the San Francisco's regional water system. Other supplies include valley water, local groundwater wells and recycled water in North Bay Shore. San Francisco has been Mountain View's primary water supply for many years. Historically, groundwater also made up a large percentage of our use. Connection to the value water system was completed around 1990, and the current recycled water system was installed in 2009. The plan assumes future demand increases will be met using San Francisco water. However, investments in recycled water and other infrastructure offer opportunities to increase our use of other supplies. Based on the point analysis. Mountain has sufficient water to meet current and future customer needs. Recent actions by the state waterboard related to their bait data plan has the potential to reduce San Francisco's dry water supply from the Tuamie River. And the city is monitoring the situation closely as it continues to evolve. Not because ground water provides a critical backup supply in the event of drought reductions. Conservation and recycled water also offer flexibility in responding to drought. Following this public hearing, adoption of the plan is scheduled for June 8th in order to meet the July 1st submitted deadline. The draft plan is posted online, and the final plan will be posted after adoption. Thank you.

[03:34:22] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. Do any members at the council have comments or questions? Great, and I think, There we go. Perfect. Council member Hicks.

[03:34:41] Councilmember Alison Hicks: Sorry, I have trouble switching over and raising my hand. Wow, I was looking at the screen. Oh, you know, I am, I'm curious about some of the projections in this. Um, the projection, for instance, that we'll have more jobs than residents, which if I read it right and tell me whether maybe I didn't, is based on the general plan. Does that include housing, we're developing that's not in the general plan, like in North Bay Shore, or is it based entirely on the general plan, or am I, yeah, I'm trying to, I'm not happy to hear the projections say we'll have more jobs than residents, and I'm trying to understand exactly what the, you know, what it's based on.

[03:35:31] Water Resources Manager Elizabeth Flegal: Yes, it does include the precise plans, including the North Bay Shore and the East, which has been precise plants. Those are included. Um, I did get a, a response to a written question from planning. I'm not sure if someone from planning is on the meeting, but I'd be happy to summarize it for you. Sure.

[03:35:51] Water Resources Manager Elizabeth Flegal: Um, It's essentially, he says this is from Eric Anderson in the planning division. But the general plan projections start from the existing job totals and apply additional jobs based on office and commercial development studies as part studied as part of the general plan and precise plans. And in fact, it's the approximate job capacity of these plans. Because the city is at a near full employment in the last several years. Cycling, there will be periods where a fewer jobs, um, over the next several years, several decades based on economic cycles, an actual appointment may get below populations.

[03:36:30] Mayor Ellen Kamei: I actually see Mr. Anderson with his hand raised in the attendees. So if we can move him over, that would probably be helpful. Hmm Siri, quickly, or Mr. Jensen, can we move Mr. Anderson over, please? Wonderful, thank you. Hello Mr. Anderson. Thanks for joining us.

[03:37:04] Eric Anderson: Hello, mayor. Hello, Council member Hicks, uh, did you have any follow-up questions based on, um, um, Mr. Thor's reading of the answer?

[03:37:14] Councilmember Alison Hicks: I think I understand it now. I just wanted to know whether the additional housing that we you know, that we've planned since the general plan. I wanted a better. I'm not happy with the projections, but um, But I wanted a better understanding of, of, you know, what they included. And I think I got that. I have a 2nd question now.

[03:37:43] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great. Go ahead.

[03:37:45] Councilmember Alison Hicks: My 2nd question is that the, the, um, the, talk of the drought is based on history, was it like a 100 year history? And I'm, I'm a little confused because weather is changing so much, you know, climate change, basically. Um, why we're relying so much on like has, do we keep making the same kinds of plans that we did before? We, we, we were in the middle of climate change. We modify how we make these projections at all because of climate change. That's a piece I don't fully understand.

[03:38:29] Water Resources Manager Elizabeth Flegal: Yes, thank you, Councilman Hicks. Um, No, and I can speak, I think, 1st to the supply from San Francisco. Um, They, they have a drought planning scenario that is actually longer and more severe than what we, they have recorded over the short 100 year history that they have. They are also looking into the impacts of climate change, which do include changes not only to their supplies, but also to potential demand. And we incorporated that into our demand model, just here in Mountain View. Um, the, the climate change study that San Francisco has been working on, um, is due to be released later this year, but there are incorporated expected changes, um, in both of the supply models for our, um, from our, our wholesale suppliers, Valley Water and San Francisco.

[03:39:28] Councilmember Alison Hicks: Okay, I mean, that sounds better than using 100 year history when we know we're in a new phase of history. Will we be able, we won't be able to see those before we adopt these, though. Is that true?

[03:39:42] Water Resources Manager Elizabeth Flegal: That's true. There is a section where we do discuss, um, in there, the water management plan, some of the impacts that are expected from climate change, which are at earlier snow melt, um, longer and possibly more severe droughts, um, changes in runoff patterns in general. Now, the San Francisco's design drought that they use for the modeling of their system actually includes the back to back repeat of the 2 worst droughts in the 100 years that they have on record. So it is more comprehensive than just the, the record that we have.

[03:40:25] Councilmember Alison Hicks: Okay, well, I'd like to see those that additional information at some point. Thank.

[03:40:31] Public Works Director Don Cameron: If I may add on, Don Cameron Public Works director. Um, the other model management plan is not only updated every 5 years. But can also be amended during that five-year period if some new information comes along through that modeling, through the climate change studies, that says that we should take another look and amend it.

[03:40:56] Councilmember Alison Hicks: Okay. Thank you.

[03:41:00] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you, Councilman Believer.

[03:41:02] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Thank you, Mayor. Um, for staff, I've um, been reviewing a 12 knee trust uh, letter quite a few times. And finally started to get it, that what they're asking for is that we request an appendix. Um, from the SFPUC, and uh, and thankful that your staff provide some analysis of, um, of the content of the letter. But what would be the upside and the downside for Mountain View of requesting the type of appendix that they describe?

[03:41:48] Water Resources Manager Elizabeth Flegal: Can you cancel that? Um, I think, um, For some and foremost. San Francisco's drought planning policy. of using the 8.5 year design drought. Um, is has been replaced for many, many years. Um, and I, I think my understanding is that, um, Staffries, it warrants, any changes in that design drought warrants an open end, um, thorough public process and analysis. So, um, given the timeline of the urban water management plan updates that they need to be submitted to the state on July 1st, We have not heard from San Francisco, any indication that they, um, will be conducting that process before the July 1st deadline. I do understand that they may be open to having that public discussion analysis at a later time. But I think from a logistical standpoint, the timing is a bit difficult.

[03:43:00] Councilmember Sally Lieber: And um, I'm wondering, if, um, Would there be? Other than wanting to respect a long-standing process, um, which I'm generally a fan of. Um, I, I'm not sure what would, um, What would be the, um, What would it mean for us to request this appendix and it sounds like some other cities are making a similar request.

[03:43:46] Water Resources Manager Elizabeth Flegal: I am, thank you, Councilman, but I'm not aware of which cities may be making that request. Um, I mean, from a, from a practical implementation standpoint, um, the request is to analyze a lesser level of drought planning.

[03:44:06] Elizabeth Frego: So um, That is a fairly large change. We have historically planned for moderate droughts. So from a practical standpoint, that would be the impact of reducing it. Um, I don't know. Don has anything else to add. Oh, if that answers the question.

[03:44:31] Public Works Director Don Cameron: I think it does go back to what was said earlier, as Elizabeth was saying, um, to run, for San Francisco, to take on the process of not only analyzing uh, shorter, Drought design, you know, running the model and coming up with all the necessary data, to analyze, and a good public process involving all the agencies, discuss it. That's gonna take a while. And our own modern management plans are due to the state by July first, not just ours, but all the agencies. So the actual reality of some kind of appendix or addendum by July 1st is unlikely. And it goes back to, again, if this process happens. Not when we will definitely participate in it, and if it means changing our open water management plan before the next 5 year update, we can certainly do that. So we have flexibility to revise our plan at any time. And we probably need to let this just play out with San Francisco, giving them the time that they need, to do the analysis, do the public engagement, and that agency engagement before we try to do something with our own overly management plan.

[03:45:52] Councilmember Sally Lieber: I mean, do we have, um, any signals from the SFPUC and I know that they're notoriously opaque. Um, Do we have any signals that they're thinking about? launching into the process because it does seem a little bit extreme to bookend the, you know, 2 worst case scenarios together and then have that end up being something that's considered a likely outcome.

[03:46:29] Elizabeth Frego: One of the reasons they selected the scenarios that they analyze and provided for Mountain View and others to use in their, you know, a lot of management plans, is because the Bay Delta plan is adopted by the state board. It is undergoing negotiations and undergoing litigation, but it is an adopted plan. And so my understanding is that they felt the need to provide that as a as a scenario and to analyze the impacts that they projected would occur. They also simultaneously provided an analysis that was more of the status quo, which is what we have seen over the past several rounds of updates. We did requests for them to provide scenarios in between. Um, but they didn't feel that these negotiations were at a point where they could issue um, issue those, those model analyses.

[03:47:32] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Well, I'd be really interested in that going forward because I think that there is a potential impact on housing in terms of that. And uh, I don't have that many illusions that the SFP will, Pay heed to us. I guess that's why there's Moscow out there. Um, but, um, I think that for sure the that, um, A private, or an NGO like, uh, to all me trust, um, would not have, would not get noticed. And so I think that we have some hope of doing that. Um, so if we can kind of keep that, Um, in our thoughts, I think that would be helpful.

[03:48:30] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you, Counselor Shelter.

[03:48:34] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Yeah, um, this is a time every time you've been water management comes up, this is this is our opportunity to discuss our water policy and what we think is important. And um, and also need a state requirement, but the state requirement kind of makes us do that. And, um, Their guideline is that you use a 5 year drought. And um, but it's, you can use a longer one, but San Francisco has chosen to use a longer one. And I understand that the guideline changed. And the last time, you only have to use a 3 year drop. So, I mean, that, that isn't, um, uh, I would say that that is reflective of everybody's concern with how um, climate change will change what a drought is. Um, that said, um, I am, um, I think one of the things we should be discussing tonight is how we view, um, uh, protecting the environmental habitat of the Delta. And I think that the city of Mountain View and the people of Mountain View have a strong environmental conscience. And right now, I know that Elizabeth can explain better than I can, but there are negotiations going on to balance these topics. There's a, the, um, the new Bay Delta plan. And, um, I think that the signal I would like to see that we were sending loud and clear to our staff is that we want them to represent um, a strong, strong habitat protection for the Delta at the same time, uh, when we obviously need to have a reasonable, I mean, we need to have a robust water supply, a reliable water supply. So, um, that's really the, you know, the message I want to make sure that we are sending. And I'd like Elizabeth to tell us a little bit about the, um, the negotiations that are going on relative to the Bay plan and, uh, um, all the water contractors.

[03:50:37] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Thank you, Counselor Gosh, Walter.

[03:50:39] Elizabeth Frego: Um, I should say, Mountain View is not a party to those negotiations, um, but there are negotiations that are going on at the request of the governor, between the state water board, and the water rights holders and other parties, um, on the, on the Tommy River and other, tributaries of the San Joaquin River, which leads into the Bay Delta. Um, and my understanding, and we receive regular updates from Alaska and from San Francisco. But those negotiations are proceeding, they have um, They have been going on for several years, but they do continue to proceed. So we do watch those very closely. Uh, I understand that San Francisco and Basca, through those negotiations, have been requesting that the statewide board consider an alternative to the water, the baids out to plan. that is based on some studies that have been done over many years regarding the Tomma River. And so that is the current request is for the state board to analyze an alternative plan that achieves the same objectives of the state water board, which is to address ecosystem and water quality concerns in Delta. But to see if it's possible to achieve those same objectives through this alternative agreement and alternative plan.

[03:52:07] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Thank you. Well, anyways, that's that's sort of the policy direction that I think is important that we share with our staff, that indeed, we want through Bosca, and the negotiations that Elizabeth is involved in to support that. We want to support the habitat protection of, um, you know, of the, uh, of the Delta. So that's why I wanted to bring that up. The other thing I wanted to bring up is, um, uh, the, you know, in our, um, in our water management plan, Uh, we have a description of 3 different scenarios that are based on different amounts of water that people would use. you know, whether or not they, they would, they would conserve water or and if they would conserve water a certain level and then to a higher level. And, um, I think it was really, um, it's really valuable to have that range of analysis because as you've, you know, we've all heard, there are a lot of variables out there that aren't tied down right now. And that's particularly over 25 years, they could change quite a bit. But having the scenario where essentially, you know, it's sort of business unusual. And then this year, the scenario with, I think it was A, was kind of business unusual, B, was the, the 20% uh, um, Conservation doing drought and, and C was more conservation than that. That gives you, that gives us, I think, a, you know, a reasonable understanding of, you know, how, um, how fungible, in a sense, a water demand is, because the people are, people are pretty responsive. Uh, we had a 29% reduction um, during the last few years or the last, not last year. was it last year? The year before last, when we had such a very, very dry year. So our community is responsible. So those are reasonable things to consider. And I just, I wanted to bring that up again. I think that, you know, it is important that we look at a, um, sort of a sliding scale of what might happen because there are so many um, variables that are, uh, you know, unknown. So I want to thank staff for including that information. I think it's important. And, um, I certainly would, uh, Anyway, I'd just like to hear other people's thoughts about the policy direction to, um, support the protection of the, um, of the Bay and Delta. through these negotiations.

[03:54:53] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Thank you. Counselor of MotoCheck.

[03:54:57] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Thanks. Um, I just realized you're always doing questions.

[03:55:02] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Yes.

[03:55:03] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Because it means a comment.

[03:55:04] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Okay. Okay. Great. Uh, do any other castle members have questions? All right. So, um, seeing, seeing now, it will, um, bring this to public comment. Would any member of the public on the line like to buy a comment on this item? If so, please click the raise hand veterinarian zoo or press star 9 on your phone. A 2 minute timer will be displayed on the screen. Where's England?

[03:55:34] Bruce England: Thank you, ma'am. you hear me this time?

[03:55:35] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Yes.

[03:55:36] Bruce England: I guess you heard me every time, so that's good. Um, Yeah, I'm, uh, I had a new group in Mountain View called Green Space's MV. I think most of all of you have heard of it. Um, we believe strongly in community collaboration on these issues about water use and landscaping and wildlife protection and all of that. So I just want to bring the group to your attention, but also, to highlight the importance of the community and all of this. There's city policy and what staff does and all of that. And then there's what we can do too, and it needs to all go together. So we are putting emphasis on the other drop tolerant pometer friendly landscaping throughout the city, so this can help address water shortages. And, um, picking right landscaping can help with sequestering water. So that's a good thing. And then beyond that, there's turf reduction, turf takes an awful lot of water and then we can reduce it in our city. Um, that would be great. And right now we're still seeing a lot of grass in parks and other areas where it's really not needed. And collaboration with the parks division and public works, um, addressing that. This is something we're working on, and we'll continue to work on. And we also are interested in protecting wildlife migration paths. And this is something we just started looking at. It's a very interesting idea. We looked at accessing the earlier. And I was talking about where people walking bike, but people aren't the only living beings in our city and we need to protect the other critters that are here as well. So, um, Let's see. Yeah, just welcome more collaboration. Anybody who's listening to this, we'd like to get in touch and talk about it and participate, that'd be great. We're going to meet this around and talk about the cool block angle in a couple weeks. There's a lot going on. Thank you.

[03:57:24] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. Peter Truckmeyer.

[03:57:32] Peter Drekmeier: Good evening, Peter Drachmeyer, policy director for the Tuami River Trust. The Tommy is quite remarkable. During the time you've been deliberating on your urban water management plan. Menlo Park has as well. And there was just a motion, uh, to include uh, request for the appendix. And I heard uh, um, there was a 2nd and then I had to leave before they voted to to join you, but it's a pleasure to be with you. And so the idea here is, um, to have this appendix available showed the SFPUC vote to shorten the design drought. At their meeting today, they discussed that they're going to have a climate change vulnerability assessment available this summer. And that in September, October would be a good time for them to bring up the design drought. So it's on their radar. But the other management plans are due on July 1st. So what happened recently is, um, yes, a PUC used contractual obligations to represent demand, and we caught them doing that. And they were forced to change it, and they actually use actual demand projections. And that reduced potential rationing from 55% to 40%. And I think using, if we had a more reasonable design drought, like 7.5 years, which is still much longer than any other drought that water agencies are using, it could break down to 25%. And then when you're going to approve housing, um, you can say, well, you know, we have we have the water, we've done 25% ration before. We bring some alternative water supplies online, like recycled water, which is planned to come from the regional wastewater treatment plant. Um, we're gonna do okay. So just a quick thing. At current demand, we could make it through the 6 year drought of record, 87 to 92 without any rationing and without any new alternative water supply. So I hope you'll give us a chance, some time to present to you, and maybe you'll support the Bay Delta plan like Palo Alto did. Thank you very much.

[03:59:39] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. Alexander Brown.

[03:59:45] Alexander Brown: I just want to agree with Bruce and Pat, protect the Delta, foster a healthy and diversity ecosystem and ban grass. It's unnecessary lately. We have people in the park. There's mobile home park for those without contacts who have little strips of grass and sprinklers, big old sprinklers. Just, it's unnecessary. Such a waste. Thanks.

[04:00:08] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Thank you. Mohan, good and Nathan.

[04:00:14] Mohan Gurunathan: Yes, hi, Mary, can you hear me?

[04:00:16] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Yes.

[04:00:17] Mohan Gurunathan: Great. Good evening, mayor, council members. So I just wanted to bring something into the conversation that's not often talked about. 80% of California's water use. It goes to agriculture. The percentage of California's water use that goes to residential and urban use is only 5%. So that 5%, it includes all of our showers, all of our residential sprinkler usage, all of our washing clothes, washing dishes, all of that is only 5%, 80% is agriculture. So if we're not talking about agriculture, we are really not going to be able to solve the water usage problem in the impending drought. When you look at agriculture, of that 80%, 70 to 80% of that is used for, I'm sure you know where I'm going with this because I talk about this a lot, is used for meat and dairy products. It is incredibly wasteful from a water usage point of view to raise me in dairy products, for instance, a gallon of cow's milk requires about a 1000 gallons of fresh water to produce, and that mostly goes into the feed crops that are fed to the animal. So, I don't know what that means for this policy here, but I just wanted to raise awareness that really talking about sprinklers and showers is not going to solve our future problems. We really need to talk about our food consumption and our dietary choices. Thank you.

[04:01:36] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Thank you. Wait, that concludes public comment. So I will bring it back to council for deliberation. Counseling that check.

[04:01:51] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Thanks. So, um, I appreciate Ms. Frego's comments about the, um, the data plan and the voluntary agreements, um, as the representative from Mountain View, Alabaska, we talk about this, um, quite some, quite a bit. And, um, all I'm also is asking for is that the voluntary agreements be analyzed and to see whether or not you can um, protect the ecosystem in the Bay and also have a different approach to water management. So, um, I appreciate, um, the stillest characterization of that, I think it was spot on. Um, I Appreciate the um, approach staff has taken to the water management plan. I think for now, it is the best approach we have. As Ms. Cameron said, we can always updated if we get new information. But I think for now, um, it is what we're looking for and um, I am ready to make a motion. That we accept the draft 2020 Evan water management plan and the water shortage contingency plan, as required by California water code section 10642. Thanks.

[04:03:26] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. So we have a motion by counseling a matter check. Do we have a 2nd? Okay, well, 2nd by council member, Abby Kobe? Great, thank you. Any other comments or questions about this item? All right, so seeing none. Uh, city clerk, please, there, can we do a, or call it, please?

[04:03:59] City Manager Kimbra McCarthy: That's me my manager. Sorry. Sorry, can I ask for clarification in the city attorney's office because I understood that the action was to be taken on June 8th.

[04:04:11] City Attorney Krishan Chopra: Yes, that's correct, but tonight's recommendation is just to accept the public comments as, as council member Mattachek said, it's not taking any more formal action than that.

[04:04:23] Mayor Ellen Kamei: I'm sorry. That's fine. Any other questions? All right, okay. Citi Cruzers.

[04:04:32] Interim City Clerk Silvia Vonderlinden: Sorry about that.

[04:04:34] City Clerk Heather Glaser: Counseling your manager?

[04:04:36] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Yes.

[04:04:36] Interim City Clerk Silvia Vonderlinden: Council member, I can go. I,

[04:04:38] Interim City Clerk Silvia Vonderlinden: canceling the hicks?

[04:04:40] Councilmember Alison Hicks: Yes,

[04:04:41] Interim City Clerk Silvia Vonderlinden: cancel my labor.

[04:04:42] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Hi.

[04:04:43] Interim City Clerk Silvia Vonderlinden: Counselor Michelle open?

[04:04:45] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Yes.

[04:04:46] Interim City Clerk Silvia Vonderlinden: Nice, man, Ramirez.

[04:04:48] Vice Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Yes.

[04:04:49] Interim City Clerk Silvia Vonderlinden: May I, can I?

[04:04:50] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Yes.

[04:04:50] Interim City Clerk Silvia Vonderlinden: Mission case? Thank you.

[04:04:53] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Thanks so much, sister. We'll move on to item 6.82. 773 Quest to Drive. Would any council members like to make any disclosures? Um, me with the Apple Can door visiting the site. So I visited the site. Counselor Manachek?

[04:05:09] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: I visited the site on my own.

[04:05:12] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Okay, thanks. Council in Russia Wilton.

[04:05:16] Councilmember Pat Showalter: I also visited this site on my own.

[04:05:19] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Castle number Hicks.

[04:05:22] Councilmember Alison Hicks: I visited the site on Google Maps.

[04:05:25] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Thank you. All right, so we'll have associate planner, Britney Whitehill. We'll present the staff report. Zoning administrator, planning manager, Stephanie Williams, and Forest Street and Roadways manager, Jacob Tronic, are available for questions. In addition, the applicant team, consisting of Kevin DeMeli, and Albert Wayne from Denali Wayne Holmes, and Jamie Matherin, from the dying group will also be presenting. So I think we'll turn it over to Miss Whitehill first.

[04:05:59] Associate Planner Brittany Whitehill: Thank you. I'll go ahead and share my screen. Can you admit it? I'll get this set up. Can you see my screen?

[04:06:11] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Yes, me see it.

[04:06:13] Associate Planner Brittany Whitehill: Great, thank you so much. So thank you, Mayor and members of the city council. My name is Brittany Whitehill, and I enjoyed tonight by planning manager and zoning administrator Stephanie Williams. The item in front of you consists of a plan minute development permit, and development review permit to construct a full unit residential development, a heritage true removal permit to remove 11 heritage trees, and relocate 2 heritage trees, and investing tentative map to create full residential lots and one common lot at 773 Questa Drive. The project site is located on the south side of Cresta Drive, between Yamate Avenue and Vegan Avenue. The approximately .7 acre project site consists of one existing that, currently developed with a single family home which would be demolished for the project. Directly rest of the site is a dental office, to the north of the property, across Crested Drive, is a church within associated preschool. Several single-family homes are located to the south and east of the project site. The general plan does a basic designation is low density residential, and the site is owned R one, which is single family residential. The project proposes to redevelop the site with 42 story subtle family homes ranging in size for approximately 2700 square feet to 3000 square feet. The proposed architectural styles include craftsmen and modern farmhouse. Each home would be on an individual lot, and a shared driveway is proposed in the middle of the site for access to each lot. The project, the proposed project is consistent with the low density residential, general plan designation, and the R1 district, and R1 flaglock development standards. With the exception of a request to allow a reduced common lot wick. The applicant proposes a 23 foot wide common net, where 25 feet is the minimum per the R-way flagout development standards. The proposed 23 foot wide, called a lot, which encompasses the 22 foot wide paved shared driveway, will provide adequate vehicular and emergency vehicle access for each lot. The R1 district requires each single family home to provide one covered in one uncovered parking space, the project proposes a 2 car garage, plus a 2 car driveway for each home, which provides double the amount of parking required for the development. The primarily undeveloped lot has a substantial number of trees, including 39 heritage trees. Due to significant tree coverage on site, planning staff, the city are based, and the applicant team, including the applicants are the best, visited the site numerous times to evaluate the trees, and discuss the best way to maximize tree preservation into the plan development. With the proposed development, 26 existing heritage trees, including 25 coast wide oaks and one valley oak, are proposed to be preserved, and 2 existing heritage trees were located on site. 11 heritage trees are proposed for removal, including one dead Monterey Pine, 3 black winnets, which are either dead or in decline. 6 coastline books, which have poured form, and I within the proposed building and put a driveway footprints. And then Valley Oak, which was found to have a focal disease and decay at the base of the tree, making it a safety hazard. 24 replacement trees, ranging in size from 24 inch box to 48 inch box, are proposed to be planted on site, bringing the total tree count on the site to 52 trees. New street trees are also proposed along the project frontage where none currently exist. The project was presented at his own administrator and subdivisual committee meeting on April 27, 2021. Members of the public raise concerns regarding parking, traffic, and the loss of heritage trees. In the end is only the administrator and subdivision committee recommended that council approved the project and their recommendations are shown on the scope. This concludes staff's presentation, and we are available to answer any questions. Jacob Traconic, for a story where it, surveys managers also available for questions, as are the project applicants, Kevin Demarti and Albert B.

[04:10:55] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you so much. And this way, I think that they, the applicant had a brief presentation as well. Is that correct or?

[04:11:01] Associate Planner Brittany Whitehill: Uh, yes, I believe Jamie Mathron. Would like to make a presentation?

[04:11:06] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great. Thank you.

[04:11:08] Jaime Matheron: Thank you. share my screen now. Okay, can you see the screen?

[04:11:17] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Yes, it's not full screen though.

[04:11:21] Jaime Matheron: Let's see. Did this get any bigger?

[04:11:29] Mayor Ellen Kamei: The, the, the image got larger, now we can't see the entire side. It's okay.

[04:11:37] Jaime Matheron: And I think, okay, I think this is what it needs to be to be able to see the top and bottom of the line, so. Okay. All right, so thank you. I'm Jamie Mather, an architect for the project, and speaking on behalf of the project team. So I'll focus primarily on the tree preservation measures that have been undertaken in this project and just previewed by Brittany. So extensive attention has been paid towards maintaining the word character of the site and towards preserving as many of the existing trees as possible. So this is an overview of the site, and you can see how many trees it's really upfold tree canopy there. So This is the existing tree plan. So 26 out of the 37 existing heritage trees are to remain. Uh 24 of the heritage trees will remain in place. 2 of the heritage trees will be transplanted on the site that could be seen by these 2 arrows here. And then 11 heritage trees would be removed. One of those 11 is already dead per the harbest report. And moving on to the new proposed planting plan. So 24 new trees would be planted, and the size breakdown of those new trees, 12 of those new trees would be 24 inch box trees, 11 of those trees would be 36 inch box trees, and one of those trees would be a 48 inch box tree. And so that is about double, the number of trees being removed would be replaced with new trees. Um, and You'll see also the full planting along the 3 property lines that are adjacent to neighboring parcels. So this will maintain extensive privacy, and provide screening from views to and from and enabling homes. And then also included in the project plans is a tree canopy study. And this demonstrates the growth of the canopy over time as the trees reach maturity. So we start out with the existing tree canopy and then at 5 years or sorry, it starts here at planting at 5 years and 10 years. The canopy, uh, you know, continues to increase and to reach the level of canopy coverage of the existing tree canopy. And so tucked into this tree canopy are muscled for homes, as Britney mentioned. So you can see with the simulation and the vendoring of the trees, the homes are nicely screened by the trees and just nicely tucked into the tree canopy. So here's just a couple of images from along quest to drive at the front 2 homes and then there's 2 more homes in the bear. That concludes my presentation and I'm available for any additional questions.

[04:14:27] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great. Thank you. So bring it back to um, council for um, any questions or comments and if we could stop the screenshot, that would be great. Do any council members have questions? All right, uh, uh, nice being Ramirez.

[04:14:48] Vice Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you, there. Um, a question for gas. So, I understand that the only reason the council has to review this project is because council approval is necessary for the tentative map. And maybe this is a more philosophical question than it than anything, but why is council approval necessary for the tentative map? Is there, uh, some historical justification for this or a really good reason that I'm not appreciating? You know, what? Is this something that could be delegated to the ZA? Um, any any insight you can share?

[04:15:29] Planning Manager Stephanie Williams: So I think historically, uh, tentative maps are soon for kind of larger projects and they're with a company, the other applications with those larger projects. So at some point in the past, they'll determine that, um, the council would like to see those larger projects and the kind of trigger of that is the 10 minute map application. So larger, I'm trying to remember. I think the subdivision ordinance has a minimum of five, right? 5 lots, that's when the council reviews it,

[04:16:09] Vice Mayor Lucas Ramirez: um, How does this qualify as a larger development?

[04:16:15] Planning Manager Stephanie Williams: So, it's, it's at the very bottom edge. and you get the, the, the, the, for individual lots and the, a lot, 3 or 5 lots. But, but typically, um, Projects aren't kind of that word for a short band, they usually, you know, go into, you know, 15 minutes and above.

[04:16:38] Assistant City Manager and Community Development Director Aarti Shrivastava: Council member, this is, uh, RT Shravastova. This is city manager, community development director. Um, I have to, um, uh, research, um, the subdivision Map Act, but I believe that, um, it's also a requirement typically that councils, um, or the elected body approved tentative in subdivision maps, but I'm going to have to go back and research that particular question. Uh, it had come up earlier um, a few years ago and we looked at this. So it may not just be our ordinance. But we can certainly follow up on that.

[04:17:13] Vice Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Yeah, it might be a state requirement. Okay, thank you. That all.

[04:17:18] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Okay, thank you, Counselor Magic.

[04:17:21] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Thank you. Just one quick question. Do we have a really dating on the success rate of transplanting heritage trees?

[04:17:35] Forestry and Roadway Manager Jakob Trconic: I'm assuming that would be a question for me because I'd have the most knowledge of transplanting. Um, generally 6 best rates are high on, on, on transplants, but it is a, it is a strenuous um, activity for a tree to go through. Um, and certainly the level of care that the tree receives during, um, storage and while the site's been constructed, did and wants it to the ground. But it's reasonable to transplant trees of even larger scale than the ones proposed. But there's always a chance that something may occur with the tree. But they wouldn't, people wouldn't move trees if there was a height value rate. They would just be like, well, let's plant a box tree for the nursery. So, I would say there's a good chance, but the transmitter trees would survive the process as long as the care is taken. Think so, probably like, probably like 90% chance of success.

[04:18:38] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Okay, so this, I didn't realize that this was a 2 step process. So actually the trees will be put in a box and stored and then they'll be put in the ground later.

[04:18:51] Forestry and Roadway Manager Jakob Trconic: That's generally what happens when we move a tree on our project. They would be excavated, placed into a temporary storage container, you know, boxed up, um, and then either taken off site or put on site in a quarter where it will be out of the way, where it can be watered and and reviewed and checked up on by the project office. I don't know if these trees are going to be stored on site. assuming they might be. Otherwise, they may plan to move them off, uh, temporarily in. Until the, the, the project. But in your case, there's generally a high success rate of transplants.

[04:19:31] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Okay, thank you.

[04:19:35] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. Any other questions on this item? All right. See you then. I like to open it up for public comment. But any member of the public on the line like to provide comment on this item. If so, please click the raise hand button in zoom or press star 9 on your phone and we'll display a 2 minute timer on the screen. Pam.

[04:20:02] Pam Reid: Hello, can you hear me?

[04:20:03] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Yes, I hear you.

[04:20:04] Pam Reid: Thank you. Mayor and council members, thank you for the opportunity to speak this evening. My name is Pam Reid and my husband and I own a property on Bond Way, adjacent to the proposed development site. We have several concerns of the project, including the impact of additional traffic, parking and noise on the existing neighborhood. However, cheap among our concerns is a preservation of privacy for adjacent Watts. Like, I can only speak to our personal interest in this matter. We kindly ask the council to also consider the impact this development will have on the 6 other lots that share a property line. Privacy springing is an area of great concern to us, particularly as the proposed homes will have elevated backyard decks and 2nd floor balconies, overlooking backyards and single story homes. At our specific lot, the current mature trees and vegetation provide a year-round screen, one of the live trees, marked for removal, does not have the fence line, but its mature branches and leaves provide dense privacy screening. This tree and other vegetation will create a large privacy gap along our shared property line. We're concerned the gap in our property line will provide a direct line of sight from the 2nd story balcony, a lot for, into our yard, and specifically into the back bedroom in the living room area of our home. The planting plan calls for the installation of a small tree at the gap, which may take many years to mature. Further, the proposed backyard landscaping plans incorporate elevated decks that would bear the effective height of the fencing. Our lot is quite small, adjusts under 5,100 square feet. Waiver privacy and enjoyment of property should be important, no matter the residence, but we're particularly concerned in protecting our ability to enjoy our tiny backyard and the privacy of our family with young children. We appreciate the responsiveness of Miss Whitehill and receive assurances that the city will work for the developer to ensure adequate landscape screening, but we have yet to see changes to the published plans. We kindly request the opportunity to engage with the city and the developer and meaningful way to have our privacy concerns addressed with a specific and detailed plan. Thank you.

[04:22:06] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Thank you. Mohan, good Nathan.

[04:22:17] Mohan Gurunathan: Yes, thank you, Mayor. Good evening, counsel. So, I'm a resident in the Quest of Park neighborhood for the past 11 years, I'm just down the street from the proposed development, and I'd like to speak about 2 aspects of the plan. The 1st is about the heritage removal. So the plan includes the removal of 11 heritage trees. The Arborist report is quite thorough and it gives a good rationale for removing 5 of the trees, which are for the report, they're described as diseased and not viable. But for the remaining 6th, the report describes them as in fair to poor condition, which, you know, it could is a spectrum of condition. And generally they have some sort of lean to them or there's issues with the form. But the main reason for removal seems to be that they interfere with the features of the development. Um, My view is as good stewards of our natural environment, we should plan the development around healthy trees and try to preserve healthy trees where possible. Um, you know, heritage trees is unique, provide any important functions, including shade, natural beauty, habitat for wildlife, privacy, uh, and air purification. And it'll take decades for newly planted trees to give us the same benefits. So my ask is for the city council to ask the developers to go back and look at these 6 trees that are healthy and see if there's any way they can be preserved. The 2nd issue, I'd like to echo the previous speakers, comments about neighbor privacy. There are 7 adjacent homeowners to the proposed development. The new units are 2 stories and can look into the backyards of the adjacent properties. From conversations we've had with 2 of the adjacent owners. It seems the developers are not really engaged with the property owners to discuss privacy concerns or come to some agreement on what needs to be done. So we would like to ask the city to ask the developers to consult with all the neighbors and come up with a reasonable agreement about how to solve the prolific concerns. Thank you.

[04:24:27] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Thank you very much. Hello? Ashwani.

[04:24:37] Hala Alshawani: Oh, can you hear me okay?

[04:24:39] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Yes. Who are you?

[04:24:41] Hala Alshawani: Thank you. Good evening, city council members, mayor, and staff. My name is Hala, Alshawani. I am a longtime resident at Mountain View. I live on Nilda Avenue in Cuesta Park neighborhood. And I am here tonight to strongly object to 773 Quested Drive development proposal. There are 2 major concerns that I have about this project. The 1st one is the removal of the 11 heritage trees. I walked by the property last week, and it was obvious that the structure and some of the trees were neglected and not maintained, but I also read that the arborist report, which stated that there are 6 live oak heritage trees that are in fair, perhaps some of them poor condition. But these trees, um, in my opinion, can be, uh, uh, revived and uh, preserved and perhaps relocated in order to be preserved. And I urge the, um, The council to ask the developer to look into that before uh, moving ahead with the removal of those trees. Um, heritage trees, the loss of these heritage trees is a big loss of air purification, uh, noise reduction, shade, natural habitats, and beauty in our neighborhood. Most importantly, heritage trees are tempering our increasing warm weather, which is only going to get worse. So replacing them is really not a realistic mitigation in today's climate. And when I look at all the development proposals in Mountain View, I counted. Today, only from like 4 proposals that I've looked at 92 heritage trees will be lost. So I'd like the council to push back on developers to see if we can preserve as many as possible of these wonderful resources that we have to keep our climate sustainable. Thank you.

[04:26:46] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Thank you. Alexander Brown.

[04:26:53] Alexander Brown: Okay. Yeah, uh, Craftsman is far from the worst style, but it's still pretty boring. I think we can do better aesthetically. That said, quadrupling the housing available on the same footprint. isn't that good and I'm all for it. And just inside, has the developer considered offering the neighbors of the new residence some curtains? Because I hear that's a good solution to privacy at home. Thanks.

[04:27:14] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Thank you. Right. That that was our last, um, member for public comment. So, oh, sorry, I see one more hand. A last in the hand. Bruce England.

[04:27:28] Bruce England: Thank you, man. That was weird. I had my hand raised and then it went away.

[04:27:31] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Oh, sorry about that, but we have you now. Go ahead.

[04:27:34] Bruce England: Okay, thanks. Um, yeah, speaking for uh, Green Space is Mountain View again and Mountain View Coalition for Sustainable Planning. Um, I did attend the various planning meetings on this project. Um, we didn't or I didn't talk about the heritage trees, but I agree with the previous speakers. We need to do everything we can to protect heritage trees and any of the projects around town. And, um, I think pressing for that. is a good idea. What I did bring up at the planning meetings was, then April Webster brought this up earlier too, and talking about the CIP program and access MV. That when there's disruption on a particular site where work is being done. That's a golden opportunity for public works and other services to go in there and do other work on city landscaping and the sidewalk paving and mic lanes and all of that. And then on the landscaping in those areas too, to ensure that they don't drop cones or drip or anything like that on areas where people are walking or riding their bikes. We're talking a lot about green complete streets, and April also mentioned that in her, um, comment letter, that came from 3 different groups. Um, And that includes putting green landscaping around slidewalks and bikeways. So anyway, lots of opportunity there beyond just the houses and what's on the property site itself. Thank you.

[04:29:01] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. All right, so I think that is our final public comment speaker. So I'll bring it back to the end council for deliberation and action. And I note that there's 2 items, um, for approval. One is the resolution of the city council, of the city of Mountain View, proving a plan unit development permit and development review permit. And the other is the adopting a resolution of the city council, the city of Mountain View, approving a vesting tenanted map. So, Does anyone have any questions or emotion? For this item. Thanks, Mary Ramirez.

[04:29:54] Vice Mayor Lucas Ramirez: I have a quick question for the applicant. Um, since, uh, I, I, I read a number of the, the emails that were submitted and several of them did comment on the privacy impact. Uh, I think there was a public speaker who mentioned, uh, that there was an interest in working to address some of those concerns. So from the applicant's perspective, what are some of the solutions that you're looking at, um, to, uh, I don't know, to provide screening between properties or, or, you know, utilize the, the tree canopy. What are you looking at to address those concerns?

[04:30:35] Jaime Matheron: I could probably hop in and answer that. Uh, good afternoon, uh, mayor and council members. Um, as for mitigation, um, efforts from our end for neighboring properties. It's mostly just been the true plane around the premiere of the property lines, which if you look at the planning plan, um, should provide adequate screening between our neighbor's properties and our properties. Um, but with that said, you know, we're always open to dialogue with neighbors and um, and working together to find a solution, if, if that is just not enough, and there's little tweaks we can do, we're always open to it.

[04:31:19] Vice Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Okay, thank you. That's all.

[04:31:21] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you, Council member Hicks. We have questions or comments.

[04:31:26] Councilmember Alison Hicks: I was going to make a comment. And I allowed to make...

[04:31:30] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Oh. Well, we, I think, yes, you can make a comment. I think we were going into council deliberation.

[04:31:37] Councilmember Alison Hicks: Okay. And the vice mayor still had a question.

[04:31:40] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Um, I have a question myself, but I can wait until you, um, and council of the labor, happier comments. That's fine.

[04:31:46] Councilmember Alison Hicks: Okay. So I just wanted, I think when I read the staff report, I read about continuing to work with um, the African and neighbors around uh, privacy screening, and I just wanted to encourage that, make sure we encourage that, and in particular, maybe taking a 2nd look at balconies, which might not be appropriate on, um, on that side of the buildings, and, um, you know, maybe taking a 2nd look at the 6 heritage trees that, that members of the public have mentioned, and any other working with neighbors maybe from their point of view of any kind of screening, um, any kind of screening, that additional screening, that from the perspective of the neighbors might work better than what's currently proposed. Those are the 3 things that come to mind for me. Um, and that's it. Thank you.

[04:32:46] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Council member weeper?

[04:32:48] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Thank you, Mayor. Um, well, I was wondering, uh, the vice mayor's question to the applicant, I, I didn't hear a lot in, in response, and one of the suggestions that was raised was to maybe have more, more mature, substantial, um, trees that would screen there. And, and. So is the Epkin making a commitment to do that or... or none at all.

[04:33:19] Jaime Matheron: Yeah, sorry if I didn't clarify that, uh, enough, but yeah, that's that's the plan. I think that's what we are doing with our planning plan. Um, but again, if there's a point of view where the neighbors are seen that our playing plan's not accomplishing that, we're willing to work with them to help that and help mitigate whatever um, issue there is. So, um, yeah, it's, Our playing plan, we believe, is very mature, and so, um, again, still open to working with, uh, the surrounding neighbors.

[04:33:56] Councilmember Sally Lieber: So that's not really a commitment, but um, for Ms. Whitehill, um, can we, um, Uh, require something a little bit more with more foliage?

[04:34:11] Associate Planner Brittany Whitehill: So there is, um, staff is recommending a project specific condition of approval, um, related to this topic, where essentially the condition states that the applicant will be required to plant substantial landscape screening, um, including plants of various height, both trees and understory plantings. And this will be verified upon staff's inspections during the construction phase. So if, you know, if it looks like the screening isn't going to be adequate, then during the building permit construction phase, we could definitely, um, make provisions to the landscape plan and add screening as is necessary.

[04:34:51] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Okay, great. And then in terms of the, um, the trees, I, I have worked with our forestry staff before and made a couple calls to them when, um, there was some really uh, punitive pruning uh, going on in the streets of Mountain View, and I know how responsive they are and how much they care about the trees. And, and I think that, um, if her forestry staff is saying a, a tree is maybe in poor to at best fair condition. Then having it undergo transplantation to a different location. It is just really tree torture. And, and I think that, um, I, I really do have a great confidence in our forestry staff's judgment on these things and know that they're trying to save every tree that's, that's viable. Um, but, you know, in some of the older lots, there are volunteer trees, including oaks, that come up and, um, they they aren't planet or expected, but there they are. And, um, you know, often they haven't been cared for over time and, and maybe, maybe have a, a very awkward form. Um, so that's, that's regrettable, but I, I do trust in staff's judgment.

[04:36:21] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. Um, so I, that was a question that I had. So thank you, customer reliever, for your comments, which is, it sounded like, I think there was some public comment about perhaps there might be 4 trees that were, um, not dead or disease. Um, can we just answer that, that, that question on, maybe from the applicant, from the city side, on all those, even valuable or is it as a council member, we mentioned it, then, that's not going to be a, uh, path forward for these trees. Some clarity would be helpful to whomever can answer. That'd be great. Thanks.

[04:36:57] Associate Planner Brittany Whitehill: Yeah, I can I can speak to that. So, um, as we mentioned, there are 11 heritage trees propose to be removed, 5 of those are either dead or diseased and severe decline. Um, 6 do have poor form and in general are are learning. Um, and therefore, we do recommend based on the, their current form in their current state, and we are supportive of the removal of those trees for this project based on, like I said, therefore, in their current state, and then also the, the replacement plan.

[04:37:30] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great. Thank you. App appreciate that. I just wanted to make sure that we answered that question before we move forward. So, um, do any other council members have comments or is there a motion? I'd just like to echo the sentiments of council members who've talked about the community outreach. It sounds like I would, you know, I appreciate Counselor Reaper's question. I would like a firmer commitment to move forward about these community outreach meetings and working together. Um, I understand that the tree planting plan is robust, but it really would be great to have the input of the community. Council has received several, um, different forms of communication from the neighborhood and I think it, you know, it would be great to include neighborhood input because everyone is going to be neighbors. So, um, you know, if that's something that the applicant can commit to, I think in this open and public meeting, it would all bring everyone a little bit of peace of mind to go forward. Um, So that's the only comment that I have. But I don't know if anyone has anything else to say or ever mentioned we have emotion with 2 actions necessary.

[04:38:43] Jaime Matheron: Well, to go on record, absolutely. We, we, I plan on working with the community, we have, um, during this process, but we continually will, um, and we'll even go above and beyond. Uh, if people feel like they're not being her. We'll reach out even more. So, absolutely.

[04:39:04] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. I think that's why we're hearing the public comment today if people aren't feeling hurt yet, so that would be great. Thanks so much. Any other council members have anything to add? Do we have a motion maker?

[04:39:34] Vice Mayor Lucas Ramirez: I'll go ahead and put on my Chris Carr cat, and I'll go ahead and move to adopt a resolution of the city council, of the city of Mountain View approving a plans unit development permit, and development review permit to construct a 4 unit residential development and heritage tree removal permit to remove 11 heritage trees at 773 Questa Drive. And adopt a resolution of the city council, the city of Mountain Dew, approving of Dusting Tenages map. Uh, I'm sorry, to uh, create 4 residential lots and one common lot at 773 Questa Drive.

[04:40:16] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Counselor Mata check?

[04:40:19] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Um, on something tip, but do you also need to include uh, the rest of the stock recommendation in that motion?

[04:40:28] Vice Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Yes, yes.

[04:40:30] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: I will 2nd it.

[04:40:31] Vice Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thanks.

[04:40:33] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Thank you, Counselor Matichek. appreciate that. Wait, so we have a motion by the vice mayor, 2nded by council member Mattachek, any other questions or deliberation before we go forward? All right, we'll have a little call up. City clerk brazer.

[04:40:49] Interim City Clerk Silvia Vonderlinden: Thanks for your mail.

[04:40:51] Vice Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Yes.

[04:40:52] Interim City Clerk Silvia Vonderlinden: Counselor Matic?

[04:40:54] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Yes.

[04:40:55] Interim City Clerk Silvia Vonderlinden: Council member Abby Hooker?

[04:40:56] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: I,

[04:40:57] City Clerk Heather Glaser: Council member Hicks.

[04:40:59] Councilmember Alison Hicks: Yes.

[04:41:00] Interim City Clerk Silvia Vonderlinden: Council member Lieber?

[04:41:01] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Uh,

[04:41:02] City Clerk Heather Glaser: Councilman Rachel Walter?

[04:41:04] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Yes,

[04:41:04] City Clerk Heather Glaser: may I can make?

[04:41:06] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Yes,

[04:41:06] City Clerk Heather Glaser: motion carries.

[04:41:07] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great. Thank you. Thanks so much. To staff in the Okay. So move on to item 7, which is new business. 7.one. is the prohibition of smoking and multi-unit residences. Hazardous material specialist. Patrick Maury will present the staff report, senior deputy city attorney, Megan, Mervich, assistant city manager, chief operating officer Audrey Seymour Rambert, fire chief Juan Diaz, fire marshal, Eric Anderson, and health planning specialists 3, Don Tran from the Santa Clara County Public Health Department, are available for questions. And I'm not sure who is going to be leading the staff presentation. I think that's you, Mr. Murray.

[04:42:22] Patrick Mauri: Are you guys able to see the presentation?

[04:42:25] Mayor Ellen Kamei: No. I think you're frozen. Oh, there you go. We see you now.

[04:42:42] Patrick Mauri: Are you able to see it now?

[04:42:44] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Yes, we see it.

[04:42:45] Patrick Mauri: Okay perfect. All right, my name is Patrick Murray, and I'll be presenting my hazardous material specials for the Fire Environmental Protection Division, and I'll be presenting the staff report for the smoking prohibition in multi-unit residences. Before I get started, I would like to thank the community development department. City attorney's office, city manager's office, and the Santa Clara County public health apartment for their help with the staff report and proposed ordinance. In 2012, the city council passed the smoking ordinance, prohibiting smoking in any enclosed public space. Since passing this ordinance, the city has received requests from the public to prohibit smoking in multiunit residences. The Santa Clara County public health department has found that the home is now the number one place to be exposed to secondhand smoke, and the most effective way to address secondhand smoke exposure is to implement policies that restrict smoking within all multi-unit residences, including common areas, balconies, and patios. Several jurisdictions in Santa Clara County have prohibited smoking in multi-unit residences, including Los Gatos, Palo Alto, Santa Clara, Sunnyvale, and the unincorporated areas of Santa Clara County, the cities of San Jose and Milpitas are currently working on similar ordinances. On December 1st, 2020, city council directed staff to develop an ordinance amendment to prohibit smoking and multi-unit residences. The proposed amendment would become effective on January 1st, 2022. The proposed ordinance would prohibit smoking in all residential properties containing 3 or more attached units, including in apartments, condominiums, and townhomes. Smoking would be prohibited inside of individual units, on private balconies and patios, in all enclosed and unenclosed common areas, and within 25 feet of operable doors, windows, openings, and bents of multi-unit residences. Smoke as a result of combustion, electronic ignition, or vaporization, plant-based materials for the purpose of human inhalation, including, but not limited to tobacco, marijuana, and cannabis, would be prohibited. Staff is no longer listing an exemption for medical marijuana as an alternate after confirmation from county public health department that no such exemption is allowed. Duplexes are exempted from the proposed amendments. Duplexes are regulated as single-family homes in the California building code, whereas apartments, condominiums, and townhomes have their own building code definitions and regulations. The secondhand smoke exposure risks are lower in duplexes, and they share only one common wall with neighboring units. Apartments, condominiums and town homes share at a minimum of 2 walls with neighboring units. Property owners, property managers, and homeowners associations will have new obligations and requirements under the proposed ordinance amendment. These will include posting most smoking signs at property entrances and common areas, removing smoking waste receptacles, establishing optional designated smoking areas, and incorporate the following and lease agreements for the occupancy of new or existing units. A copy of the smoking coordinates, the location of designated smoking areas on the property, if any, and the clause giving 3rd party beneficiary status to all occupants of multi-unit residents. The lease terms will be required in all new, renewed, or continued month to month leases beginning January 1st, 2022. Prior to finalizing the proposed smoking orders, city staff reached out to residents, property owners, property managers, HOAs, and trade groups for their input. City staff created a postcard mailer with links to an online survey in both English and Spanish. The survey received a total of 1021 responses. The community engagement survey showed that residents were in favor of an ordinance, prohibit smoking, tobacco, and multi-unit residents. The survey also showed strong support for prohibiting smoking and outdoor spaces. Two-thirds of residents that responded to the survey agreed that smoking or vaping of recreational marijuana should be prohibited in multi-unit residences, just under one half of the survey responses agreed that all marijuana smoking or they think should be prohibited for multi-unit residences. Community engagement survey also showed that residents are being exposed to secondhand smoke or vapor in their current multi-unit residences, and that many multi-unit residents, residences did not have smoking prohibitions. In addition to the community engagement survey, the city held a public meeting on May 13th, 2021 for property owners, property managers and homeowners associations. Property managers indicated that secondhand smoke exposure was the number one complaint they received. City staff also held a meeting with representatives from the California Apartment Association, who supported the smoking ordinance. The proposed ordinance is designed to limit secondhand smoke exposure, not to penalize smokers. The city expects a high degree of compliance once residents are aware of the smoking limits. Spoken complaints and multi-unit residents will be sent to the fire department inspectors or code enforcement officials and not the police department. There will be a 3 tier approach resolving smoking violations and multi-unit residences. The primary tier will be to refer complaints to landlords, property managers, and homeowners associations. If landlords, property managers or HOAs are unable to resolve the smoking violation, then the fire department for code enforcement will conduct an investigation. The city of Mountain View will conduct community outreach for the new smoking ordnance. From July to December 2021. Uh, the community outreach will include creating new webpage. A new webpage to provide information about the multi-unit smoking prohibition, create a frequently asked questions handout, create an abridge, one page version of the new ordinance requirements as an alternative to the complete code, which is 11 pages. Send postcard mailers to residents and hold public meetings with tenants, property owners, property managers, and HOAs. This concludes the presentation and we are now available for questions.

[04:48:51] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Thanks so much. I think we can stop the screen share and bring it back to council for questions. Hey, do any council members have any questions? Council number Hicks.

[04:49:04] Councilmember Alison Hicks: Have we run this far, the rental housing committee in any way?

[04:49:09] Patrick Mauri: Oh, we did not.

[04:49:11] Councilmember Alison Hicks: Okay. Thank you.

[04:49:14] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Council member Mattachek.

[04:49:17] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Thanks. I was just curious if 25 feet. Um is a standard that other cities use. And if not, it's the range.

[04:49:30] Patrick Mauri: No, thank you for the question. Council member, Metachek. So 25 feet is the, um, distance used in the original, um, the current smoking ordinance, so we kept that distance. Uh, based on my review of many of the ordinances, there's 2 um, distances that are used. It's 25 feet, which is the most used, and then 35 feet. Um, some other um, cities use 35 feet as their distance.

[04:49:58] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Okay, thanks.

[04:50:01] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. Any other questions from council members? Councilman Rochelle Walter?

[04:50:09] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Now, I understand that, um, a lot of the apartment communities already have, um, Language in their lease is prohibiting smoking. Um, how many additional uh, units do you think this would impact?

[04:50:29] Patrick Mauri: So, um, we don't have definitive data on the total number of complexes that um, prohibit smoking. Most of the new ones that have been built within the last 5 to 10 years do include a prohibition non-smoking throughout the properties. Uh, Prometheus is a company that does a blanket policy that prohibits um, smoking. Based on our survey of residence. Um, we did have about 42%, I believe, is the number that um, said that their housing complexes did not have uh, smoking or, uh, smoking prohibitions.

[04:51:09] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Okay, thank you. Yeah, I understand that Avalon and Americana. Um, uh, both have prohibitions and notices.

[04:51:20] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. Any other questions? All right, seeing then. I'll turn it over to public comment. Would any member of the public like to provide comment on this item? If so, please click the raise hand button in Zoom or press star 9 on your phone. We'll display a 2 minute timer. Are you single?

[04:51:44] Lenny Siegel: Thank you Mayor. Um, Yeah, just a couple points. Staff report was very good. And so we did a comment letter for Mountain View Coalition for Sustainable Planning, but it was pretty easy. We didn't have many questions, but there were a couple. Um, Well, one is the point, and that is on the enforcement. There's a lot of interest in making sure things aren't overly punitive and that police aren't called out for something with low level. And from the staff report text, it seemed clear that there are multiple steps and none of the steps involved calling out the police. So that's um, that's great. The question has to do with the HOAs because I raised this question earlier on a different matter, whether the city had was able to identify all of the homeowners associations in Moundview, and they said that they were not able to do that. And I don't think that our Lisbon station communities are on any lists, for example, and we're about to change our management company, in fact. So how, so it's a question. How does staff figure out which HOAs to get in touch with on this matter? I know it affects us for sure. And that's it for me. Thank you.

[04:52:50] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. Andre Thomas? There you go. Andre Thomas.

[04:53:04] Andre Tomas: Good evening, council members. My name is Andre Thomas, and I'm a resident and assistant chapter chief steward with SCIU local 521. I chair our copes endorsement committee, and I'm also a delegate to South Bay Labor Council. I recommend a no vote on the prohibition of smoking in multi-unit residences. Passing this ordinance will alienate the members of our community that use marijuana for pain management and as treatment for a myriad of ailments in the privacy of their homes. Landlords can already prohibit smoking in their units, and on their properties, and many do so by including prohibited language within their lease agreements. Additionally, this ordinance will prohibit smokers who own and lease multi-uman properties. The data from the survey on this topic represents less than 1000 members of our community, and excuse me, and that is if there are protections in place for prohibiting respondents from taking a survey more than once. More importantly, 93 ought something community members are not a clear representation of the over 81,000 current Mountain View residents. For all the great work that you all are doing, I believe council should focus on more important and immediate matters, such as how are we going to continue to keep the community and public employees safe now that the mass mandate will be ending? What will we be doing to prevent and respond to outbreaks within our public buildings? Well, Castro Street, remain closed to traffic or reopen as the teller work mandate has been rescinded, and many of us will be working for, many of us working professionals will be commuting and returning to the office. It's just to name a few. Again, I recommend a no vote on the prohibition of smoking in multi-unit residences. And words do not require a city ordinance to enforce rules on their property. Thank you

[04:54:53] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Thank you. Carol Baker.

[04:54:58] Carol Baker: Thank you. My name's Carol Baker. I am the co-chair, along with Fendesta Morgan, of the Tobacco Food Coalition of Santa Clara County, and I want to thank you so much for considering this order to protect the health of those who live in Shared World's Housing. I just don't understand why you are opting to not protect your residents, who have living duplexes with shared roles. In any case, it's the one that is definitely a step in the right direction, sort of thank you again for considering it.

[04:55:30] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Thank you. I'm Andy. Don what?

[04:55:39] Amandeep Anabet: Good evening, Your Honor, and honorable council members. My name is Amandeep Anabet, and I'm a Tobacco Prevention Education and Advocacy Intern at Breed, California. Today I would like to offer my support to pass the prohibition of smoking in multi-unit residence in Mountain View. With the pandemic last year, individuals were mandated to stay at home. Unfortunately, for individuals residing in multi-unit housing, the Smith family members have increased risk of exposure to secondhand smoke. Even with the added precautions of closing doors and windows, the risk of exposure through vents was still high. And as it is known, COVID-19 disproportionately affected those with compromised immune systems, which includes individuals with respiratory problems. Although we are not able to control, we are able to control whether children, expecting mothers and the elderly, are exposed to secondhand smoke in their homes. Additionally, the popularity of e-sigrets and vaping devices contributes to the burden on the population, especially for children. Approximately 50 to 75% of children in the US have detectable levels of coating, which is a breakdown product of nicotine in their blood caused by exposure to secondhand smoke. And secondhand smoke is also responsible for about 300,000 lower respiratory track infections in children, resulting in about 15,000 hospitalizations each year. I appreciate the consideration of the issue and for planning to take stricter action on the current non-smoking organs of the residents in Mountain View. I just request that if this provision to the non-smoking ordinance is passed, that there be enforcement and accountability not only for the incoming tenants, um, but also for the tenants that are currently residing in condos in the housing units. Thank you for your time. Your honor and honorable council members.

[04:57:26] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. Vanessa Marvin.

[04:57:33] Vanessa Marvin: Hi, good evening, mayor and council members. My name is Vanessa Marvin. I'm the co-chair of the Tobacco Free Coalition of Santa Clara County. Our coalition represents numerous organizations and individuals across the county working on eliminating tobacco and the harms from tobacco. But I'm also a parent and I do live in multi unit housing. And so both the coalition, myself personally, are really happy that you're considering the strong ordinance to protect the residence of multi-housing and not mute tonight. Protecting residents from secondhand smoke by the web is urgent. We all know about secondhand smoke exposure, how harmful it is, and it's actually potentially deadly. Children, elderly in the disabled, our most vulnerable citizens are also the most vulnerable to secondhand smoking exposure, and unfortunately, those who are the exact population that spend the most time indoors at home. There's been a lot of discussions after ready about, um, buildings that make their, um, properties already smoke free, which we absolutely applaud, those companies and those businesses and those landlords who do that. Um, but that leaves residents at the mercy of their landlord or their property management company. If that changes or if that company decides to change their policy, the individual no longer be protected. What we ask is you pass a policy that will protect all residents of multi-mit housing, um, regardless of where they live. And in that regard, we also would really encourage you guys to make sure you don't leave out duplex residents. Um, they do share a wall and many of, um, many duplex residents get exposed to secondhand smoke from their neighbor. So we want to make sure that you're not leaving out that population. So smoker housing is a common sense policy. It's been adopted by numerous other cities across Santa Clara County. We're really thrilled that you're looking at it here in Mountain view. I want to thank you for your time and consideration tonight.

[04:59:23] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Thank you. Monvi, Sarani.

[04:59:31] Nazi Polani: Good evening, your honor, our council members. My name is Nazi Polani, and I'm an intern at the Tobacco Control Program at Bridge, California. I'm here to express my support for the ordinance to protect residents from 2nd hand smoking and multi-unit housing. So at Big California. We have a secondhand smoke helpline where we've heard the stories of Bay Area residents, including those from Mountain View. Our callers constantly express to us that regardless of their exhaustive efforts to deter smoke from their neighbors. They simply can't escape the smoke that seeps in through ventilation systems and beneath the doorways. One of the many complaints that we perceived was from a 14 year old girl who was unable to even use a restaurant in her own house because of how badly the room smelled. And especially now with the stay at home mandates that had taken place last year, there's really no escape from them hearing such dangerous chemicals, which isn't just an inconvenience, that is something that has been to cause in nearly 34,000 premature debts from heart disease each year in the US and has contributed to many respiratory illnesses. especially in young children and older residents. So we urge you to support the proposed ordinance and consider having more detail to holding landlords accountable, especially when it comes to enforcing a new policy on existing tenants who spoke. So other than just putting up no smoking signs, I hope that landlords will ensure that those that smoke and who already live in multi-unit housing will comply to these new policies. So we hope that you consider these plants addressed to help protect the health of mountains these accents. Thank you for your time.

[05:01:12] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great. Thank you. So we have a phone number, full rate. Last 3 digits are 279. I don't know if that's you, Bruce.

[05:01:26] Joshua Howard: Good evening, Mayor, this is Joshua Howard with the California Apartment Association. Wanted to take this opportunity 1st to, um, thank staff for their aggressive and robust outreach on this ordinance and working with the rental housing industry to address some of the concerns and make sure that the feedback of rental housing providers was included in this draft ordinance. Appreciate the work of the city attorney's office, the city manager's office, and the fire department and all the others, to ensure that they work with us and even rent so far as to help reconcile some of the concerns that the original draft ordinance had with the CSFRA. So what you have before you, the apartment association beliefs is that ordinance that balances the operational needs of rental housing providers, the public health needs of your community, and allows for a ample period of time for rental housing providers in the city to educate residents on the new ordinance to implement new lease terms, put up signs for residents to understand what is required of them or what they're not allowed to do. And believes that going forward, this will be a tool that will help address public health, and will ensure, um, a safer mountain view, because in fact, many, well, housing providers, as you heard earlier, have no smoking policies in place, one, it's good health policy, and 2 it's also good business policy, because it does provide some, um, incentives through reduced fire insurance costs and other reduced risks. So apply the efforts of your staff for their outreach and be as an association look forward to working with you and your staff to educate the rental housing providers and not review on this ordinance and ensure compliance comes January 1st. Thank you.

[05:03:19] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. Alexander Brown.

[05:03:25] Alexander Brown: Honestly, this is a tough one for me. Uh, I'm all about personal liberty and I hate to thank the people are limited in their activities by their ability to afford to sing the family home, but I feel the same way about people being able to afford to not be exposed to secondhand smoke. I am the child of 2 smokers. My dad survived lung cancer, uh, which he doesn't think was caused by the cigarettes, but, uh, it's on mood, though, since including marijuana, this prohibition. It's gonna harm people we're suffering and using cannabis to treat their symptoms. So I have to agree with the speaker from SCIU and oppose this particular measure. If it were just tobacco, I'd be supportive, but I can't support keeping people from their medicine. So if we're just a backup, I'd be all for it for that. Thanks.

[05:04:08] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Thank you. All right, so that concludes public comment. We'll bring it back to uh, council for uh, discussion and deliberation. Nice man Ramirez.

[05:04:24] Vice Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you mayor. So a couple of, hopefully quick uh, introductory remarks. I, 1st one of express my appreciation to, uh, the members of the public who had reached out last year to express their concerns about 2nd hand smoke, um, and also to, uh, all of you, members of the council who uh, prioritized this effort. Um, correct me if I'm wrong, but I, I think I might be, uh, uh, one of the few or perhaps only member of the council who lives in multi-family housing that, uh, does not have any, uh, smoking prohibitions, and it was annoying when I, uh, there you go, so that, that makes 2 of us then, um, it was annoying when I moved here, but it became downright miserable, once I was confined here during the pandemic and had to work. L. I have 2 windows that face the same direction, and many neighbors who smoke, and especially during the summer months, it became, just unbearable. It was sweltering in here. I have, this is an older apartment complex. There's no air conditioning, um, but I couldn't get any relief because if you open the windows, the smoke comes in, and, uh, it, it, it just makes for a very unpleasant environment, and I wouldn't have done this, were it, not for the stories that I heard from members to the public who, I mean, I'm, you know, some guy in his 30s, nobody cares about me, but when you have folks, you know, raising young kids, or people who have medical issues, who are in the same set of circumstances, You can't help but feel for them, and that's why I think these regulations are sensible, uh, and and really, you know. I wish we could have implemented them in March 2020 but uh January 2022 is as good a starting time as any. Um, so, I, uh, one other thing about the, uh, the, medical marijuana exemption. Um, I, I have some neighbors who smoke cannabis and uh, maybe I'm just not savvy, but I couldn't tell you the difference between recreational marijuana smoke and medical marijuana smoke. And I think part of the challenge of having a medical marijuana exemption is compliance. Uh, I think in practice, what will happen is, if you have a tenant who is complaining to the property manager about this, uh, you know, someone's gonna have to knock on the door. A, you know, are you smoking cannabis? And there's going to be this dilemma of, you know, do we compel somebody to show, to provide some kind of evidence that they have a medical ailment, and this is their medication, that strikes me as a privacy issue that I don't think we necessarily want to get involved in. Um, So, the, the compliance issue. I think is very real. I know stats have provided, um, some, some other information in the, uh, written comments to counsel on a dance in the meeting and staff, if, if you want to provide additional information, that, that might be helpful. But I think, um, fundamentally this is a great starting place, if we need to modify it, we can always do that. Um, but I'm really grateful uh, that, that, you know, you've done the work, the due diligence, um, that we've seen very significant public support and the surveys, uh, and that we're implementing regulations that will provide relief to, I think, 1000s of people throughout the city. Thank you. Oh, and with that, I'll go ahead and move the stack recommendation. Uh, including introduce an ordinance of the city of Mountain View, amending chapter 21, article 2 of the Mountain View city code, related to prohibition and regulation of smoking in certain places, to be read entitled only, further reading, waived, and set 2nd reading for June 8, 2021.

[05:08:34] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. So the motion by the vice mayor, Cousin Marsh Shelter.

[05:08:39] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Yes, I um, I wanted to talk about this. I have a really different viewpoint. Um, coming from the environmental community, I've seen the, um, results of overregulation again and again. And I I think that we, we want to make. I mean, of course, 2nd hand stroke is a big problem. And I think that we have, we have heard, um, from that it is in landlords, um, best interest for them to, uh, put in their leases. Um, language banning smoking. They get a reduction in their homeowner's insurance for that, not to mention the fact that it's a good marketing tool, and the fact that, um, uh, It, it, um, it, it's their decision. But at the same time, I feel that this is, um, kind of an invasion of people's personal liberty. Um, a large proportion of our community lives in um, multifamily units. And um, if there are smokers, where else are they going to go and smoke? Um, I personally think that, um, I would hope that they don't. But I know that they do. And I think that that, um, No, it's just not, this is not an appropriate thing for us to be doing. Um, I think we need to be spending our time on things that will really make a difference. And I wonder, if certainly, just this, um, just this item right now, should be getting the word out to many of the, um, landlords, or any of the landlords who don't have smoking prohibitions in their leases. Um, I would like to see. I would much prefer to see us do outreach to those landlords and say, you know, this is something that you can do and it will get you a reduction in your, um, homeowner's insurance and of course it reduces the fire danger. But that said, I really think that this is um, overstepping, uh, what local government needs to do. Um, we, so I will not be supporting this.

[05:10:59] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Thank you, Counselor Abbe Kobe.

[05:11:03] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: I just wanted to 2nd the motion before we continue deliberation, more deliberation.

[05:11:08] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you. All right, so we have a motion by Vice Mayor Ramirez and we have a 2nd by Council member Abbe Koca. Were there any other comments that council members would like to make them at this point? Councilman Madachek.

[05:11:30] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Thanks. So I agree with the comments of the vice mayor. Um, I think this is the right time to be doing this. There are a lot of folks who have come to council meetings and shared their stories and their concerns about this. And there are a lot of folks who live in multifamily units who are not renters. They're owners of condos, downhouses, rowhouses. And, um, it's not like we could go to the landlords of those properties. I am concerned about the health impacts of smoking. And, um, secondhand smoke is difficult to deal with when you are working at home. And I do believe that the employers in our community are going to allow flexibility for people to work at home at least part of the time. And those folks deserve to have a smoke free environment in which to work. So I'm very supportive of this. And I'm glad we're doing this. Thanks.

[05:12:45] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Thank you, council member Lieber.

[05:12:48] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Thank you, Mayor. A couple of reactions. Um, one in terms of the, the medical marijuana, um, issue, uh, reality is that for people particularly with severe illnesses like cancer. Um, Medical marijuana can be one of the only ways to um, get them to be able to take in nutrition. And, and I, I can imagine him, someone who's severely ill. Um, saying, well, go walk out in the parking lot and um, and use your medical marijuana out there. So I, I, that, Really gives me pause. Um, uh, having seen those situations up close. Um, that said, I, I, I think that tobacco is just one of the worst scourges around and I can't imagine being a parent. And having kids that through the pandemic are at home trying to do their homeschooling. And trying to do your job. And knowing that young lungs are so disproportionately impacted by by secondhand smoke. And so I'm going to be supporting this. And I also have to say that one of the biggest sources of secondhand smoke are the, um, the gas powered small engines, the leaf blowers, and, and et cetera. And we've kind of, um, thrown that issue around like a hot potato that, uh, we don't really want to grapple with if there's any possible way that we can pass it on to some state board or pass it on to somebody else. And in all honesty, we get so many more contacts about the noxious fumes coming from leaf blowers than I ever have about secondhand tobacco. And that, that says a lot. Um, because I think that secondhand tobacco smoke is severe. Um, so I will be supporting this and and I hope that the people who are frail and reliant, um, medical marijuana can. Afford to get the best air cleaner possible. And, um, be able to to do those things. Uh, it gets really hard when you have a patient that, you know, is in a state where they, they don't understand and you're trying your best and you're trying in desperation to do everything in your power to get them to eat and to drink water. Um, It really is a difficult situation. But I will be supporting this measure.

[05:15:52] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Thank you, Council member Hicks.

[05:15:55] Councilmember Alison Hicks: Yeah, I have mixed feelings about this measure. I will be supporting it because so many members of the public have have spoken out for it, but I do share some of council member Sher Walter's, um, objections to overregulation, and I I have some equity concerns that, um, people apparently, you know, after this will likely be voted in that you can only smoke in single family homes, kind of that you have to buy a single family home to smoke. anything, uh, kind of concerns me. Um, and I, I do, I don't fully understand medical marijuana, whether ingestion is as good as smoking for, for various things I am not. I have not read up on that. So, in that. I don't exactly know where we're going. I also agree with counseling number labor on the air quality issues regarding leaf floors that we get. A lot of, we get a lot of comments on those and I think we should kind of step up addressing that. So thank you.

[05:17:07] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great. Thank you. Any other comments or items to discuss? Okay. I am I am not seeing any. Um, so I think I'll just add my comments before we do the the roll call vote, which is they appreciate the the input. I think this is, um, the most responses we received from a city outreach, um, for any kind of event we've done. And so appreciative staff for doing that. And I know they did that in multiple languages, um, as well as in different mediums, you know, online, paper, et cetera. So, um, just appreciative of that because I do think it's a topic that can bring maybe some mixed mixed feelings, mixed emotions. Um, and and for myself. Uh, it's not about, it's not about me. It's about the residents who've been coming and giving public comment since the beginning of the pandemic, asking, pleading, begging counsel to take this topic up and to create a change and to create a difference. So, you know, I believe that everyone should be able to make their personal choices, to smoke whatever they'd like to do. But I think in these cases when we're thinking about the health and well-being of our community and having received the input from residents. I think this is where, um, I'll be, I'll be supporting the motion because, um, they've, they, they've played in and it's important. All right. City, city click laser. Can we do a real call book, please?

[05:18:37] Interim City Clerk Silvia Vonderlinden: Yes, ma'am, where is?

[05:18:40] Vice Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Yes.

[05:18:41] Interim City Clerk Silvia Vonderlinden: Council member Abby Koga?

[05:18:42] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: I

[05:18:43] Interim City Clerk Silvia Vonderlinden: Council member Hicks.

[05:18:45] Councilmember Alison Hicks: Yes,

[05:18:45] Interim City Clerk Silvia Vonderlinden: counseling Believer.

[05:18:47] Councilmember Sally Lieber: I,

[05:18:47] Interim City Clerk Silvia Vonderlinden: Counselor Matachek.

[05:18:50] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Yes,

[05:18:50] Interim City Clerk Silvia Vonderlinden: canceling Marshall Walter?

[05:18:52] Councilmember Pat Showalter: No.

[05:18:53] Interim City Clerk Silvia Vonderlinden: May I can I?

[05:18:55] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Yes.

[05:18:55] Interim City Clerk Silvia Vonderlinden: Ocean Carries?

[05:18:56] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great. Thank you. Thank you to staff. So we'll move on to item 8, which is council, staff, committee reports. 20 counselors or members of staff have any reports to share? Councilman reliever. Oops.

[05:19:21] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Thank you mayor. Um, I don't have a report to share, but I do have a request to make. And, um, we've, uh, been receiving contacts regarding the school resource officers. Um, including, um, some context from uh, the school district. And I think it's an issue that we really need to um, uh, bring to fruition in terms of a study session. Um. And so I'm hoping that we can do that in the most expedited way possible. I don't think that there's time before the break and the, uh, the adoption of the budget and so on. Um, But I know that if we kick the can down the road, um, through the budget process and, um, just continue the way that we're going, uh, we'll really be denying the the community, the dialogue that needs to take place. And so I'd like to get a general time frame. Um, and an indication of support from other council members to really take up this issue and give the public, the venue that's needed, uh, to discuss the pros and cons of having a school resource, uh, officer program, um, within the city.

[05:20:59] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Okay, so I think the request to agenda is a strong, um, a motion then. I think we need to store associate straw, um, vote to see if there's a majority interest in that.

[05:21:14] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Okay, then I'd like to make the motion that we hold a study session at the earliest opportunity.

[05:21:22] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Okay. All right, so I think, um, I know people had hands raised maybe for other items, but I think that there's emotion. So if your hand is raised, we're going to talk about, um, capital member labor's motion. So, um, I'll go to you, Council member Hicks, thinking that you'd like to discuss this as well. So please feel free.

[05:21:45] Councilmember Alison Hicks: How did you know? Yeah, I, I've gotten a request both from, uh, from school board members, I should say one school board member from MBLA in particular and from residents. So it seems like with all sorts of people asking, it seems to me it is time to have a discussion on this. So, I would 2nd that.

[05:22:12] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Okay, so we have a motion by counselor, a lever, 2nded by council member Hicks, is there more discussion, uh, Vice mayor Ramirez?

[05:22:23] Vice Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Uh, yeah, really quickly. Thank you. Um, so I, I agree with you, but at some point we're going to have to talk about this, but my strong preference would be to do so after the PCAB does. We've just established the body. I think we're going to start, uh, working on their, their work time and of course we, you know, have final approval over it. And I, um, I want to respect that the PCF may have a different set of priorities. Um I expect that they will talk about this. Um, but I don't want to preempt them. So, I'm comfortable with the study session. I think, I think there's, there's a lot to talk about, a lot of, a lot of nuance on this issue, but I, I do want to give the piece up, the, the 1st uh, opportunity to solicit public comment and and provide recommendations to the council.

[05:23:12] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great, thank, thank you, Lace Mayor. Um, I'm inclined to feel the same way, which I think Pisa meets this week, and I thought one of the things that they would talk about and hopefully recommend to counsel is their thoughts on the SRR program. Um, but, If we, so I still see, Kelsey, we were, Kelsey, over Hicks, hands, raise. Is this to? No? okay. Council member Bobby COVID?

[05:23:39] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: Yes, I was under the same impression that the P sub was gonna take this up, but um, also, I mean, I have also heard from, um, the high school, just at least a representative from the high school district. Um, I would actually like to hear from them, what their, um, position or interest is, is with the program. Um, they had mentioned to me that when Los Alto City Council took it up, they were not consulted and in light of the fact that the high school district is the one that, um, is on the ground, um, I would like to hear from them as to, you know, what their position is as well. And that we do, really, if we're going to do this, we do extensive outreach because I did hear that as well with Los Altos that they only had about 25 people that they heard from.

[05:24:30] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Okay. So, I think there's a couple different ideas, but I do know that there's emotion in a 2nd. So shall we go forward with that in terms of a struggle or counseling reliever? Do you want to?

[05:24:48] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Sure. And I, I don't mind, um, giving, um, a, a period of time to chew on it. Uh, I think that that's fine. Um, but I do think that it has to come to a resolution at some point. And, uh, the, the council does need to, um, be involved and, Uh, get to the point of a study session maybe by the end of September. And, um, uh, not just have it be a lingering thing, um, that's continued to be.

[05:25:30] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great. Thank you. So I see, um, Castle Hicks, your hand up, but I'd like to turn it over to staff to see if maybe they could be responsible a little bit to where council is going. So is that okay with you, council member Hicks, if I turn it over to city manager McCarthy to see if she can answer a little bit.

[05:25:47] Councilmember Alison Hicks: Sure.

[05:25:50] City Manager Kimbra McCarthy: Um, yes, thank you, mayor, council member. So, um, the 1st meeting of the peace app is actually this Thursday. Um, and their 1st meeting, they're not going to be taking up any issues of substances, it will be the very 1st meeting of the group. Um, they are going to be discussing their norms, um, how they're going to get along and really staff are really going to outline, um, just the work of an advisory body. So I would suspect that it wouldn't be until they're, um, 2nd meeting then, that they would even contemplate a work plan. And just a reminder to counsel, so all of the advisory body work plans do come to council in September. So you will be getting those work plans and you will approve those in September. Um, so obviously if there's a uh, strong poll and the, um, council majority wants to fast track this item without waiting for the work plan to be approved that, um, is something that you could consider. But otherwise the work plan would come to you in September. Um, I do, um, believe that they would have to do that outreach in the summer, since their 1st meeting would be, um, as I said, just a couple days from now. Um, but that's really kind of the status of uh, the group and what's going to be kicked off.

[05:27:13] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great. Thank you. I appreciate that. Counselor Hicks.

[05:27:18] Councilmember Alison Hicks: So there were some comments about we should hear from what the position of the district is and I just thought that would be a part of any study session would be hearing the position of the district as well, you know, that would be a forum to do that as well as, um, you know, position of resonance. Um, and then as far as outreach goes, um, I think any outreach, it's important to also say how much this is costing us, um, because it's one thing to ask whether you support a program and it's another task, whether you support it at a, you know, a, a dollar amount, you know, a specific dollar amount. So that's my additional comment.

[05:28:03] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Okay, thank you. Um, So we've kind of had a little uh, council discussion. We've heard from the city manager about maybe the time frame of how things might progress. Um, Councilman reliever, council member Hicks, are you comfortable with, With that or would you like to?

[05:28:28] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Um, I, I, I, I think that it is what it is. Uh, it's up to council. I just think that we have to bring it to a study session and and we need to bring it to a public process. Um, and that's what I'm I'm seeking to do here.

[05:28:45] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Okay. So we have a motion by council member Reaper, um, and 2nded by council member Hicks on a study session. Did you? And that was tied to, I guess I just wanted clarity on that because I think that there was a, well, I see Counselor Robert COVID has a question. So maybe her question might be the same as my answer.

[05:29:09] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: Yes, my question was whether, um, we are referring it or allowing, allowing, I guess, to, um, discuss the item 1st before it comes to the council, because that would be my preference. So if we can clarify the motion. I would appreciate it. thanks

[05:29:36] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great, so I'll turn to the motion maker council member paper. What's your preference?

[05:29:42] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Well, um, I thank you for waiting for the P said to submit a work plan, um, to us in September, and then, um, we give a thumbs up or thumbs down. And then they, um, commence a lengthy process of uh, public outreach. that it's probably like, uh, January of next year, that we would actually get some kind of recommendation from them. And I do think that council could hold a study session that, uh, just to clarify our questions. Uh, for the PC of what we'd like to refer to them. Um, to hasten the process a little bit, and not send them on a, uh, bring me a rock, um, type of an exercise. So that might be something that would be worth doing in September. is having a study session item to clarify, uh, the issues that, We want them to ask the community about, um, rather than just, um, we want you, as you're being formed to kind of noodle around in this issue, and see what you can find. And then when you come back to us for 90% sure that we'll say that this wasn't quite right. So I think council could clarify the issues, and by that time, I think the school district will have, um, their ducks in a row and and be able to make some, um, some good comments to us. And um, that might be helpful direction for the PCAB.

[05:31:53] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Council member, how they cook it? Did that answer your question?

[05:31:58] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: Um, I guess, um, my response would be, I would prefer to empower the peace ad to take the issue up and then come to us with recommendations. We can also refer this. the work plan goes 2 ways. So, as they can come to us asking for our approval of their work plan, but we can also refer items to them, and that's what I would suggest we do. I don't know if the motion is inclusive of that or not. I guess I'm still not clear. what promotion is.

[05:32:33] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Oh, I would definitely be open to that if we have an item in September where we can give concrete direction. Um. But I would rather not have it be a month long process. And, um, I think that, uh, Giving the community an opportunity to speak on this, including the school district. Um, sooner rather than later, um, is reasonable. Um, The process may have been quick in Los Altos. And some people like that. Some people didn't like it. Um, But, uh, there's a middle ground between, um, You know, what some characterize is too quick. And maybe January. Um, and I, I think that, um, it's, it's worth it for, uh, council to, uh, take some positions to state what we're looking for or what we're not. And, um, not just be rubber stamping the budget and then, um, not really giving the community an opportunity to speak on it. Uh, for a longer period of time.

[05:34:11] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Council member, Shelton, your hands are excited about that.

[05:34:15] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Yeah, I think maybe we can sort of hybrid this. If we say to the peace ad that we're going to have a study session and sometime late September, early October on the SROs, that's effectively giving them direction to start working on it and come back with some ideas. In addition to that, they're a new advisory board, and one of the things that we did occasionally, years ago, was to have joint meetings with advisory boards. Maybe this would be a good opportunity for us to have a joint meeting on this subject with them. Um, and uh, and kind of help. You know, get the communications between the ASAP and us. But, set up well. So that's what I would kind of ask the, ask staff to think about that as a possibility. Could we, um, have this is the 1st thing they're really working on. And, um, so that by September, they would, they would have some good thoughts on it, that they could share with us and, um, We can have a study session and and we could get to know them better. Thanks.

[05:35:31] Mayor Ellen Kamei: That was a question to staff. City Manager McCarthy, did you have a response for council membership Walters question?

[05:35:39] City Manager Kimbra McCarthy: Uh, mayor, I would just defer to council as to whether you all would want to have a the joint meeting. Um, I do think that should the council desire, uh, you could indicate that you wanted to have the study session and that time frame, that September October time frame and, um, let the piece up know. Um, it would probably be easiest given that they are a brand new, um, advisory body. And, uh, given that this is going to be a pretty big item for them to work on. Uh, I think it would, you know, make sense to have a the study session on it and they can work on it. A joint meeting. I'm just not sure if if logistically with a advisory body that's only a few months old. Uh, if if that's something that you desire. We can certainly make it happen, but um, I would ask for counsel. direction on that. Thank you.

[05:36:36] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Thanks, Mary Ramirez.

[05:36:38] Vice Mayor Lucas Ramirez: Thank you. So I'm, um, I, what we can talk about is limited to adding something to the agenda and, you know, sort of temporarily where we want to address it. I have a lot of pretty strong views on policy matters, but I think have a an impact on how I'm approaching this, but it's beyond the scope of what we can talk about with an item 8. But, um, I, I wanted to be careful of a couple of things, uh, as, as the city manager said, the advisory body is new, and I think it's important for us to give the members of the body some time to, you know, understand their dynamic, and you get a sense of their own priority. before meeting with them and then imposing our views without having any benefit of getting a sense of what they want to focus on based on public input and based on the HRC report that was prepared last year. Um, I, I feel uncomfortable personally, presuming that one issue is more important than another because we haven't had, we haven't had that discussion. We talked about it a little bit last year, but not in as deep away as I think it really deserves. Um I'm fine with a study session on SROs. Um, It feels like we're presuming that that's more important than other local policing matters, which I don't like, but I get that this is a priority for a lot of people. But I would much rather have the peace ad talk about it 1st. And I think maybe a happy compromises. I don't want to prescribe a specific time other than before the end of the year. And that tells the peace app that we want them to talk about it, and it gives them a couple of meetings to discuss it with the community, and that it provides the time certain for us to take a stab at, what I think will be a very meaty issue. Uh, so that's what I'm prepared to support. Um, and I think it's sort of the, Happy medium between, you know, ensuring that we're discussing it, but also giving the peace app a lot of latitude to to weigh in and solicit a lot of community input.

[05:39:04] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Got it. Great. Thank you. My inclination is to lean that way as well. I feel like I'm comfortable with, at the end of the year, having a, having a study session and allowing the input from, it, it feels like council may made the step of creating the public safety advisory board with a lot of thought and time, um, an effort. And I'd like them to have the ability to tackle policy issues and provide the input to council. So, um, I'm comfortable with the compromise that the vice mayor mentioned. Um, I don't know how others feel. Counselor X.

[05:39:47] Councilmember Alison Hicks: Yeah, I'm comfortable with that.

[05:39:50] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Okay. So I see a nodding head from Council member, show alter, that thumbs up from Council member, Alley Coba, Council member, Reaper. Does that work for you?

[05:39:59] Councilmember Sally Lieber: I, I think that that's, uh, that's adequate. What I'm looking for is a time frame, um, that is, is reasonably definite. So I heard the vice mayor mentioned by the end of the year. So, you know, that's December. So, you know, it would be ideal if it's, I think you mentioned the month September.

[05:40:23] Mayor Ellen Kamei: You know, I, I, I don't know, we're, We're talking about perhaps going back to in person too as well. So I think there's lots of moving pieces, which also makes me feel uncomfortable saying September, because we're going to be trying to move from a year and a half of virtual to, you know, some sort of in-person hybrid potentially. So that's why I'm comfortable with a year. I don't need to make you, well, I buy that, but I just, you know, I think there's moving parts. And so I just want to give staff the flexibility to do the due diligence. So that's, that was just if you're, if that's possible. Counselor, not a check.

[05:41:01] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Thanks. I... I want to make sure that we... Enable the PCM to do the work that they think is important and address the topics that they want to address. And I agree with the vice mayor that, um, you know, we stood this organization up, and we should let them run with, what topics they want to run with, and propose them to the council and the work plan. And if we do want to say we also want you to look at something else, okay? Um, You know, I'm not sure SROs are at the top of their list. And so I guess I, I prefer to wait to hear from the, piece of what they want to work on in their work plan, and if it's not on their work plan, You know, if there's council majority to say we want to add it to their work plan. I guess that would be my preferred approach. Um, I don't want to undermine the PCA. And I think, You know, demonstrating that we support them and we want them to sit there our own course and is really important. Thanks.

[05:42:29] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Okay, so, I heard, let's see, one to, I, but the vice mayor, but for his idea, I supported it, Council member Hicks. I saw Noddinghead from Counselor Roche Walter, NFL, is that from Council member, Abby Coca. So I think that might be, where we are. I didn't here. I got to commit to that, but that's at least five. And Council member Leaper just want to turn it back to you.

[05:42:59] Councilmember Sally Lieber: Well, uh, I think that's that's fine. That's what they're support for. And um, so that's progress.

[05:43:07] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Okay. All right. So. See, Attorney Chopra, do we need to?

[05:43:16] City Attorney Krishan Chopra: There was majority support for that, that course of action to, to have a study session by the end of the year and also uh, communicate to the piece at that this topic is important to the, to the council. Um, and there was majority support for that. So.

[05:43:35] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great. Thank you. So is everyone clear? Wonderful. Okay. So, cancel, I believe, anything else from you for item 8?

[05:43:43] Councilmember Sally Lieber: I think, um, some council members had a staff at committee reports that they wanted to share, so. I'll hold my other items.

[05:43:50] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Okay. All right. Any other council members have any staffer committee reports? Council Rochelle, I see our hand.

[05:43:59] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Yeah, since it's not too late yet. It's 911. Well, I just wanted to share, um, some BCDC news. We um have a subkitty maybe called financing the future. And that's um, about the idea of how will we finance all the sea level rise um, uh, protections that will be needed in the region. And, um, one of the things that there was a workshop on this last Thursday, and one of the things that was really discussed was kind of mirroring a, um, a, uh, parcel tax measure that was passed in the Los Angeles area, um, a couple of years ago. And so, um, I just would like, uh, to let you know that that's being thought of, and there will, it's something that we should stay tuned to, um, that may come forward, um, and the next. I mean, the earliest it could possibly be would be in, uh, the 2022 election, but that seems really early because that's very fast. But anyway, I just wanted to mention that. And then the other thing I wanted to bring up, particularly because this is the George Floyd, uh, the George Floyd um, anniversary is, um, is that, uh, that BCDC welcomed their, um, environmental justice advisory board to, um, uh, on Thursday. And I think this is really an exciting way that BCDC is implementing the new environmental justice policies. And the, the, um, the resources legacy fund provided us with grant money so that we could, we could provide stipends to 6 environmental, um, justice organizations around the region to help us implement these policies and do it as, as effectively as possible. Um, one of the things that came up in the discussions about how to do environmental justice is that it's often very hard to get, um, uh, people in lower income, uh, situations to take part in public meetings because they're so busy going to work. They can't possibly go to public meetings. So, so having a representative um, that you can pay to come makes a big difference. So I just wanted to let you know that that that got off, that's getting off the ground. And um, it's, it's very much a, uh, sort of an outgrowth of, um, of the, the wokeness that we're, you know, hopefully all experiencing and we'll be working on for a long time. Okay, and then, then, um, just, I wanted to bring up another thing that I've talked about to the, uh, the, uh, city manager from time to time. Um, when I was a planning commissioner, we had a training session on a Saturday morning once where all the members of all of the advisory boards were invited and at each and and at this training session, we all learned what all the advisory boards did. And we got introduced to each other. And um, then we had lunch with the city council, and it was just really a very good training program. So someday, when we get to meet in public, I just would like to plant the seed, but I think that this would be a great thing for us to do, um, to improve the communications, um, between us and uh, our advisory boards and and, and to get the message out that we care about, you know, what they, we do, and also to understand better, you know, what everybody's job is. So I just want to share that. So thank you.

[05:47:39] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great, thank you, Councilman Abi Koga.

[05:47:42] Councilmember Margaret Abe-Koga: Thank you. Just from the VTA world. I think many of you have already heard, um, after an extensive uh, recruitment and interview process that, um, I got to be a part of, although I didn't get to make have a final vote on. Uh, we chose uh, Carolyn Ganott, um, to be our new GM. Uh, she has a 24 year. She's been with VTA for 23 years, but left to run the Utah transit agency the last 2 years. Um, but she is returning back and um, I am very pleased. I've had a chance to work with her. I think her extensive experience, especially in construction, will serve the VTA agency really well. So excited to announce that. And then I know a lot of folks have been talking about, um, us or transit service. And because of social distancing. They've had to limit the number of writers, and so there's been a lot of pass-ups where buses have to just pass the writers who are waiting because they're at capacity given the social distancing order, but that, because that has been limited, um, are lifted, they, um, they're able to now carry more passengers on each vehicle, and hopefully that will alleviate some of the challenges that have, um, occurred during COVID. Thank you.

[05:49:07] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great. Thank you, Catholic.

[05:49:10] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Thanks. So, a couple things. Um, I attended the Bosca board meeting. I think it was last week. And we got an update on the, um, border supply conditions, um, from an Oscar perspective. And since they supply, as we heard earlier tonight, the vast majority who ordered for the city of Mountain View. It's important to us to hear. And as of May, they were at 77% of the system storage. And, um, that's a really important number because, um, here in the Bay Area, we rely a lot on storage for our water as opposed to just the annual rainfall. And the average or the normal is usually 84% at this time of year. So we are under it. But um, in comparison to lots of other parts of the state, we are in, as they described it, tolerable shape. Um, but, um, we're always quick to add, as was as a PUC, that we're always asking people to be water wise. And that means, you know, we specifically are asking people to voluntarily reduce their water usage. We've been able to do that in the past, and I'm sure we can do it again now. Um, and it would behoove us all to, um, conserve. Um, a quick comment on, um, the item councils are show altered brought up. And different cities have different approaches to their advisory bodies. Sunnyvale assigns a council member to each advisory party, and they attend their meetings. I thought that was kind of interesting. And just a little side note there. Um, and then, uh, the other item I wanted to bring up is, um, an item that I personally feel like has gotten a little bit off track, um, and that's for a variety of reasons. And that's um, specifically when it comes to, um, summaries of study sessions, um, being included in council minutes. And, you know, we've had 100% turnover in the council appointees. We've had an interim city clerk. We've got some new council members. Um, but, um, just to give you a little bit of background. In early 2019, the council had an offsite. And it was during that offsite that we, you know, we're talking about ways to improve things. Um, and one of the things that came up was that, Sometimes, and we come away with different conclusions or summaries of what happened at study sessions. Because they're very different than when you take a vote on something. We're just giving council direction. And members of the public have said, um, gosh, you know, I'm not sure I could summarize what you guys all decided. And so we asked, um, that the mayor, um, or it could be somebody that mayor, um, designates, to summarize at the end of study sessions. In a very short summary, what the council direction was. And that direction, as we defined it then, was what did the council majority say? So, well, we might say a lot of things. The summary was, what did the majority say, and therefore, what is the direction to staff? And so, um, it's really just taking what the mayor summarizes and putting it into minutes. So, um, I, I know we didn't, really, um, focus on that when we had the interim city clerk, but, um, I feel like it's time to, um, reiterate our desire to do that, um, since that was a previous council direction. And one thing we didn't do last time, which I think we probably should do is also have a CPPC discuss this. And if we, um, I'll agree, uh, have the council policies updated to support that direction. So, um, I guess in the interim, I would like to continue with that practice and also have the CPP discuss it. So we're all clear. what our direction was to staff, um, and that there's really, in some ways, no debate. So I guess if you need, I'd like to propose a strong motion that we continue with that practice and then we also refer it to the CPPC to see about documenting it in our policies.

[05:54:24] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Nice man,

[05:54:25] Vice Mayor Lucas Ramirez: yes. Thank you, mayor. That needs a 2nd I'll 2nd it. And uh, so I, I, I agree with council member Metachek's, uh, remarks. The only thing I would add is, uh, the direction that we provide in a study session has just as much weight as a motion does in a public hearing or in regular business. I think that's why it's, it's particularly important that we, we convey it in the minutes. So when we go back, we can, we have, it's, it's basically a legislative record, right? If we say we want staff to incorporate, you know, these elements into a development proposal or whatever. Those elements get incorporated into the development proposal, and if it just says in the minutes, the council provided input, then the public has no way of knowing what direction we provided, and the council can't go back and see, it's important to know that we're on the same page, but we can't go back and and see what direction explicitly was provided, you know, into whatever item is going to come back to us. So I think it's important that we, we formalize this and provide some parameters on, uh, what gets included in the midst.

[05:55:45] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Council member Hicks.

[05:55:47] Councilmember Alison Hicks: Yeah, so I agree with the direction this is going in, especially bringing it back to the CPPC. I think that, uh, for for the discussion. I, you know, since we talked about this, I was very new on council when we talked about it before. Um, uh, one of the, the, there, I feel that there are problems with the way it's currently formatted because the last person to speak, often, the people who spoke before don't say anything about whether it's hard to get a majority when you're the last person to speak because other people, We don't have a format for going back and saying how many people agree with what this person said. So I think certain things could be formalized and done a little better, but I think that would be the job of the CPPC to iron that out when they discussed.

[05:56:41] Mayor Ellen Kamei: That's when we might check.

[05:56:44] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: So, um, I absolutely think that could be discussed by the CPPC, I think in the meantime, um, I think it's also kind of up to us when you hear the mayor, uh, do the summary, if you feel like you've, um, heard something different than that, you should speak up. Or if you think, oh, well, there were 3 people, maybe there's four, you know, uh, bring it up again. I know sometimes we've gone back and said, oh, I want to weigh in on, you know, what somebody else said. You know, the mayor could say, does anybody want to weigh in on anything that's previously heard? And then, I'm sorry, been said, um, and do it that way, but, um, I guess I feel like, um, I'd like to kind of get back to being a little bit more um, diligent in the process, um, during the meeting. And then also, um, have it included in this. Thanks.

[05:57:51] Mayor Ellen Kamei: So we're having a lot of discussion, but there wasn't a 2nd to the motion, or was that you guys, or that was the other smear. Right. Okay, you 2nd it. So just to, why don't you, counselor, matter check, clarify what the motion is after all of this discussion?

[05:58:07] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: Sure. So the motion would be that we continue the practice of putting a brief summary in the minutes. Um, just for study sessions. And it would be the summary that the mayor or whoever the mayor might want to delegate that to provides at the meeting. And then we would also refer this to the CPPC, to iron out any details they think should be included, and a policy, and that would then come back to the full council.

[05:58:42] Mayor Ellen Kamei: All right. Castle Roche Walter.

[05:58:47] Councilmember Pat Showalter: Yeah, I think this is a great idea, but I don't think it goes far enough. Um, I thought ever since we had these summary minutes that basically, you know, they tell you more about what the, the public comment says than it does about what various council members say. I mean, we're just really, uh, all they do is record the final vote. I mean, I really think I'm hoping. She had a new, um, new, uh, uh, city clerk and her evaluation of, of the work of her, um, department will consider, you know, how we could get, um, uh, um, limits that are really a much better historical record than what we currently have. So, yes, thank you, council member of Ratachek, that's a grand idea. Let's do it. But, um, but I, I, I wouldn't mind going a lot further.

[05:59:45] Councilmember Lisa Matichak: So, I just want to quickly answer. So this was a, um, a decision or a direction provided by counsel in January of 2019, and I need to give credit to the vice mayor, because I believe he was the one who brought it up at the offsite. Um, as someone who used to sit in the audience a lot. He said sometimes, you know, people around him were like, so what did they just do? Um Yeah, so, credit where credit is due.

[06:00:17] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Okay. So if there's no more discussion on this item, we have a motion by council member, Mattachek, a 2nd date by Vice Mayor Ramirez, so we'll just do a straw. Oh. Great, it looks unanimous. Great. City attorney chopper, do you need anything else? The motion was clear.

[06:00:37] City Attorney Krishan Chopra: No, that's that was clear. Thank you.

[06:00:39] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Perfect. wonderful. All right, any other items for item 8? So I'd just like to share, um, check of which the city is a JP member. Um, it's holding their last, um, event for mental health awareness month. They did something every Wednesday for the month of May and I just wanted to let everyone know about that. Um, and, um, you know, thanks to council member Ari Cooper, who reminded us about the city's association. Let's talk about race event, annual meeting that was held last week. I think a few of us attended. So just wanted to report on that as well. All right. So if there's nothing else, we'll move to item 9, which is our closed session report. City Attorney Chopra,

[06:01:24] City Attorney Krishan Chopra: I do have a closed session report. There's no close session report tonight.

[06:01:28] Mayor Ellen Kamei: Great. Thank you so much. So that moves us on to item 10, which is adjournment. Thank you so much for joining us. Our next regular city council meeting. will be on June 8, 2021. Until then, stay healthy. Say, messed up, and our meeting is agent at 1102 PM. Thanks everyone. Have a good night.

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