October 27, 2025 Council Appointments Review Committee

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[00:00:03] Unknown Speaker: He will join us later. Um, so, uh, we'll go on to, uh, item number 3 approval of the minutes. With any member of the public joining us virtually or in person, like to provide comment on this item. Please, if so, please click the raise hand button in Zoom or submit a speaker card to the deputy city clerk. We will take in person public speakers first. Each will have 3 minutes. Is there any public speakers? See none. We'll bring it back to the committee. Is there a motion and a 2nd to approve the minutes? I move approval of the minutes. I will 2nd that, all in favor. All right, both of us. Yay. Okay. Okay. Moving on to item 4 oral communications from the public. Would any member of the public joining us virtually or in person like to provide comment on this item? If so, please click the raise hand button in Zoom or submit a speaker card to the deputy city clerk. We will take in-person speakers first. Each speaker will have 3 minutes. Any public comment? Speakers on? I see none in the room. I see none online. All right, we're moving on to item 5 just speeding through. Uh, new business, committee openings. WC Clark Wanda Wong will make brief remarks, and then we will proceed with a review and a selection of interview questions. Welcome

[00:01:37] Unknown Speaker: to the meeting tonight. I want to inform you that Ethan Weisman has withdrawn his application from the Border Library Trustees. Um, Jessica Chohan from the Courts and Recreation Commission. And Cassandra, Magana, and Dan Wee, and the senior advisor committee have withdrawn their applications. Could you say that again? It's Ethan Weisman, friends on board of Library Trustees. Jessica Chohan from Parks and Recreation Commission. Cassandra Magana and Dan Wee from the senior advisory committee. And I also want to let you know there will... Yes, Dean. Also want to let you know that there will be a few applicants who will be attending via Zoom tonight. Well,

[00:02:27] Unknown Speaker: that makes some of the decisions easier. Thank you. All right. So we'll move on to public comment. Would any member of the public joining us virtually or in person like to provide comment on this item? It's so, is click the raise hand button in Zoom, or submit a speaker card to the deputy city clerk? We will take in-person speakers first. Each speaker will have 3 minutes. I see no one in the room mind to speak. And I see no hands on Zoom. All right, bringing it back to the committee. For the selection process outlined in council policy, number K dash 2 interviews will be conducted in a panel format. Applicants will be interviewed in groups by body. Each applicant will receive the same amount of time to answer each question, and the questions selected by the committee will be asked in. Randomize, Randomize, Round Robin Order. The committee may ask a limited number of clarifying questions in the event that an applicant's answer was unclear or otherwise not understood. Clarifying questions should be not used to allow an applicant an additional opportunity to expand on the original response. The committee will now review and finalize questions to ask each applicant and a time allocated for each question. Questions previously asked of each group of applicants are included in the memo from staff. Where there are fewer applicants than open seats and incumbents are the only applicant. The committee may choose to move these application forward without interviews. All right. So, shall we? Finalize some of these questions? Committee member, show Walter, are there any changes you want to make to any of the questions?

[00:04:36] Member Pat Showalter: I need a 2nd to read these.

[00:04:38] Unknown Speaker: No worries. Take your time.

[00:04:59] Member Pat Showalter: I'm wondering about the performing arts committee one. Question two. Describe your vision of the cultural scene and artistic desires of mountain view and the surrounding communities. One of the things about the performing arts committee that sometimes understood by people who are applying is that it's really to oversee the operation of the performing arts center. And um, I'm wondering if we should, um, change that. Uh, question to be something related to the administration of the performing arts center. Sure,

[00:05:41] Unknown Speaker: how, how, how would you like to change it? Would we say that? Um, Maybe

[00:06:13] Member Pat Showalter: what operating policy of the performing arts center? Are you interested in working on? So it's just like a completely new question at that point, right? Yeah, or. Yeah, or

[00:06:28] Unknown Speaker: we could say and.

[00:06:31] Member Pat Showalter: You know, we can do what we have here. What policies of the performing arts center are you working interest? Maybe that would be better. Okay,

[00:06:42] Unknown Speaker: so we just add an and. So describe your vision of the cultural art scene and artistic desires of mountain view and surrounding communities, and what was the question again?

[00:06:51] Member Pat Showalter: What policies of the performing arts? Um, uh, center. Are you interested in working on? All right. It's

[00:07:33] Unknown Speaker: a long question, but we only have one applicant, so yeah. That's true. Anyway, what um, do you have any suggestions? I'm kind of curious. and senior advisory committee. There's a question number four. It says new CSD staff recommended a question. How will you ensure that your personal business activities do not influence or appear to influence your decisions or responsibilities if you are appointed to the senior advisory committee? Seems like an odd question to ask. Is there any context to that question? That is to prevent any um, conflict of interest. Okay, it's just, it's weird because like, why the senior advisory committee? But there's only 2 season 2 applicants. Do you, uh, it's, it says it's just recommended. Does that mean we, we can choose whether ask it or not? Um,

[00:08:32] Unknown Speaker: it depends if um, the way it's written, it depends if a person, uh, an applicant has a business. Ah, okay. Yeah, and one of them does. Oh. If

[00:08:45] Member Pat Showalter: I read that application properly. Yeah,

[00:08:47] Unknown Speaker: that's correct. That was there. All right. So we'll just ask that at the relevant time. Do we have to ask it to all of them or? We have to ask to the one that has. ask the same question, tell us. Okay. So, senior advisory committee will have an extra question. It doesn't apply for you, you can just say NA. All right. Any other changes thought? I mean, committee members show Walter? Like it looks good. Right. Let's rock it. Um, we'll move on to the actual interviews. So, the committee will now interview the applicants for the board of library trustees, seat one. Sharon Sue. Is she in person or is she online? Oh, she's online. Welcome, Sharon. Hello. Can everybody hear me? We can hear you. Thank you. I'll do the 1st question, and then come in here, Michelle, or you could do the 2nd one. Sounds great. I'll do the third. All right. Um, uh, Sharon, we, we will start with your 1st question. Why do you want to serve or continue to serve on the board of library trustees? Can I tell her how long she has? Oh, and you have 30 seconds for this question.

[00:10:10] Sharon Sue: Thank you, council members. I've really enjoyed serving a four-year term. It's been such an honor and delight. Um, and I'm passionate about continuing the good work from the last 4 years. So I have a PhD in English and I was a former literature professor. I focused on issues of race and ethnicity. Um, and I really believe in city council's goal of community for all. I think that we're in a particularly um, challenging time with the federal shutdown, and I think that this is when the community can really lean on the library, and this is the library's time to shine. Um, and I really want to take it. Thank you.

[00:10:48] Member Pat Showalter: 30 seconds goes fast. Okay. Okay, but, but the 2nd question kind of leads from what you were talking about. What do you think would be likely areas of particular focus for you on the board?

[00:11:03] Sharon Sue: I had my 2nd child while I was serving on the board and I spend a lot of time in children's and youth services. The story times can draw upwards of 337 children and caregivers, which is, you know, a lot of current and future readers. The nursing station just opened this month and I helped support some of the policies involved in making it a safe and welcoming space. So I'm thinking about the families that are coming to the library, um, and intentive to populations in children's services, such as Spanish and Mandarin speakers and neurodiverse families. Um, I'm also interested in, I saw many of you at the ribbon cutting ceremony for the bookmobile, and I want to help support and expand its services, so it can continue to go out to neighborhoods, schools, senior living, workspaces, um, a lot of library cards are issued at the cities, festivals and celebrations, especially Lunar New Year. And I'd like to see more ways of bringing the library to the community, um, and bringing them in through library cards and telling them all the great resources that are available. Um, and I'm thinking about how we can support. Thanks sharing your time's up. Thank you. Thanks.

[00:12:15] Unknown Speaker: The last question is too much. Should I go? Go ahead. All right, Sharon, the last question is 2 minutes. It's 2 minutes long. What changes would you like to see at the library? I

[00:12:25] Sharon Sue: think the summer reading program is great. I'd love to see it introduced, um, in the winter. This was the 1st year that it was, um, Encouraged at Mountain View Wisman schools, which I think is a fabulous way of engaging the public school community. I'd like to see more story times in city parks. They did one at Bub Park. It was a special one with the tea. Um, I'd like to see how Silicon Valley and AI is affecting our community in our library and thinking about how to use it ethically, having hot topics, conversations, and programming, books that are recommended. I'm proud of how youth services have been doing amplify teen voices and engaging more teens and presenting, um, what their passions are, um, such as the one that was called ancient history is viewed through coins, um, which is the 1st program. And I think it's good to emphasize the library's fun side, discovering go, so you can go out and see museums. Um, borrowing the telescope so you can look at the night sky. Mental and physical health emphasized as part of readerly health. Everyone who loves doing the New York Times games can do that through the library. Um, There's just so many ways to support reading and support inclusivity, and I would love to continue pushing for community for all. Thank you. Great.

[00:13:44] Unknown Speaker: Thank you so much for your time, Sharon. That finishes all our. Oh, can

[00:13:48] Member Pat Showalter: I have a follow-up question? Sure. Yeah. Yeah. When you mentioned a winter reading program, when would that happen? Would that happen over like the, the, um, the break of school break or would that be the whole winter or what were you thinking? Yeah,

[00:14:06] Sharon Sue: I was thinking that it's a way to engage, um, you know, young people and older adults, um, I think about how Sunnyvale Library does it seasonally. So sometimes they'll say spring, sometimes they'll say fall or winter. Um, so making it a shorter time window, it can be, I mean, summer is about 8 weeks, so it could also be an 8 week window and there can be small incentives if there are um, generous donors, which there tend to be. Thank you. Thank you. Well,

[00:14:37] Unknown Speaker: I think that concludes our interview for the board of trustee seats. There's one um, seat and there's one um, person um, interviewing for it. So I think thanks so much, Sharon. Thank you, council members. Thank you. Thank you. All right. So we'll move on and interview the applicants for the parks and recreation commission seats. There's 2 seats. There's Jonathan Davis and Sarah, don't, don't. Is she? Are they here? Are they on Zoom? I'm

[00:15:05] Unknown Speaker: not sure about Sarah, but wolf could see. Where shall I see? You could sit right there. Right here. Okay, great. Yeah. Good

[00:15:21] Jonathan Davis: evening, council members. Good

[00:15:22] Unknown Speaker: evening. How are you? Great. So the

[00:15:30] Unknown Speaker: 3 questions remain the same for the committee, right? Yeah, we didn't change it. The only one we actually changed was where the performing was going to be. great. And then this is round Robin too, right? So, if

[00:15:42] Unknown Speaker: necessary. She's not out there. Okay. All right, so we're John, then you're here. We're ready. We're going to just get going. Is that okay with you? So you heard the lovely timer. Um, so we'll just, uh, when it's... I'm

[00:15:57] Jonathan Davis: sure I'll bump up against it. I always do. Yeah. So

[00:16:01] Unknown Speaker: the 1st question's 30 seconds. The 2nd question's one minute and the 3rd is 2 minutes. So, um, were you all taking turns doing the missions? Okay, should do one, two, three. Okay, go ahead. All

[00:16:12] Unknown Speaker: right, so this 1st question is 30 seconds. So... Why do you want to serve on the Parson Recreation Commission? First

[00:16:22] Jonathan Davis: and foremost, civic engagement, you know, I'm, I believe that communities function best when citizens participate, and so it's, for me, I, this is my, uh, I've sort of full term on the Parks and Rec commission. I serve in other capacities in the community as the shoreline in the shoreline west neighborhood association. I lead our neighborhood community emergency response team, support the CSA and the historical association. And I think communities just work better when people participate. Only got half of that out. Actually, the more important part. All

[00:17:03] Unknown Speaker: right. Yeah, the 2nd question, one minute. What do you think would be likely areas, a particular focus for you on the commission? So,

[00:17:12] Jonathan Davis: the focus of the commission is really set by the community services department, we, the agenda is set, and therefore, the focus is set by them. And so, I think how I would answer that is our, my focus is, will be to provide objective, rational and useful perspectives, uh, to the topics identified by the community services department. Great. Thank you. Well, to expand that focus, but I think... Now that's that's where it sits. Well,

[00:17:49] Member Pat Showalter: that's when you have a little more time. It's 2 minutes. What do you think should be the priorities of the parks and recreation strategic plan?

[00:17:57] Jonathan Davis: So I think there's maybe 3 primary elements. One is to ensure the needs of the community are being met. And that those limited resources or finite resources are, um, offered in an equitable way. So there are a whole variety of recreational and and park activities, um, different groups have different desires and needs, and sorting those out, you know, of course, pickleball is our, our, poster child of complexity and recreation. But, um, you know, providing a rational view of, uh, sorting out that, uh, those community needs. I think the plan also needs to function as a framework for operational guidance, so how the city will manage these valuable resources. And, um, you know, I think our parks and open space need to be recognized as infrastructure, not just amenities, but like sewer and water, like streets, like electricity. These are vital components of our city. And, of course, have to be managed. And I think the, the, uh, department is doing a fantastic job and bringing those, uh, resource management activities into a more modern framework. And then thirdly, and I think this is really a critical element of the strategic plan. Um, in, in that's, provide a framework for open space development and by development. I think the subtext of that is acquisition. How do we both retain and enhance, but also expand the open space in this increasingly dense urban environment. Thank you. Thanks so much.

[00:20:06] Unknown Speaker: Appreciate you wrapping it up right as the time ran out. So, um, that concludes our questions. And then I think we're, um, I don't know if y'all talked about. probably just deliberate at the end, but we're done with all our interviews and you can say or you can go, however you'd like to, but we will let you know. And

[00:20:25] Jonathan Davis: thanks to the council members. I spend anywhere from, and 15 hours depending on an agenda. I don't know how you guys do it with your complex agendas. It's a lot of time.

[00:20:39] Unknown Speaker: Thank you. really appreciate it. Great. All right. So then we're on to downtown. Nice thing,

[00:20:48] Unknown Speaker: let's see. Do we have every jerk made? I want to let you know we're like, you guys are like 10 minutes ahead of schedule. Maybe you might want to deliberate on your decision who just select for the portal.

[00:20:59] Unknown Speaker: Yeah, I think that's the tricky part about giving people time frames. We should just tell people to get here at 6, I think, because you never know. I was just thinking that. Um, but yes, um, we can, we can deliberate. we know what time we told downtown committee? You told them 6.35. Oh, oh, so we have a good. What time did we tell Parks and Rec? We told

[00:21:20] Unknown Speaker: them, oh, 620. Okay.

[00:21:23] Unknown Speaker: Okay, so we're on time for Parks and Rec. Because it's 626. Okay. So we'll, we can deliberate on these two, I guess, and then go into downtown. And then we'll be back on time for the 635. Does that sound okay? Yeah.

[00:21:39] Member Pat Showalter: Could we check and see if Sarah is out there?

[00:21:43] Unknown Speaker: Well, I already checked. She wasn't out there. It wasn't out there, but I could. Sarah? Yes. It's Adonish, yeah.

[00:21:51] Unknown Speaker: I also kind of threw an interesting wrench into downtown committee discussion. Yeah, she did. Um, so if you look at the thing. We have 4 seats for the downtown property owners, I think. We have 3 applicants for the business at large, but Peter Cat's 3 Chamber of Commerce Chamber is technically downtown.

[00:22:11] Unknown Speaker: Why would he apply a business though?

[00:22:13] Unknown Speaker: Probably because he's the current climate. That probably

[00:22:16] Unknown Speaker: happens there by laws specified. Yeah. I'm assuming that Weston kind of into that category. Okay, damn. Yeah, okay. Okay. Why did you answer that question while you were looking back there? Oh my God, that's a good use

[00:22:30] Unknown Speaker: of time. Yeah. So did you use how we there? It sounds like we can't, if she arrives. We can't know them. You can't swap it out. Okay. Well, thanks for the clarification. So we have, um, interviewed Sharon, um, for one position. There's one opening for board of trustees, and we have one applicant, and then for Parks and Rec, we have 2 seats, but we have one applicant. Both of them are incumbents, and I'll leave it to my committee members if they'd like to maybe make a motion, and then, I guess we can try to, I don't know.

[00:23:00] Member Pat Showalter: Is Sarah, Sarah is incumbent as well, right? No, she is not. She's not. Okay, well, I think we should see if we can interview her a little later just for the.

[00:23:08] Unknown Speaker: I think that she comes. Yeah, I think that the time that we gave her was 620, 628. Yeah, but we can. Yeah, I mean,

[00:23:17] Member Pat Showalter: let's see, how it goes. I mean, we don't have the, because otherwise we're going to come, have to come back another time to fill this. So, I mean, if she's if we can do that. Anyway, I would, I would, um, I move that we appoint, uh, um, share and sue. She sounds like she's doing a great job, and she's certainly very enthusiastic, and I know, um, from my exposure to the library, that the children's services are truly wonderful, and they bring in so many people. So having somebody who is actively involved with that on the library board. I think that's a great thing. Yeah,

[00:23:56] Unknown Speaker: I think she did well in her answers and I think she has done a pretty good job. So, moving on. It's, I'll make the motion to Pat made the motion. I'll second it.

[00:24:09] Unknown Speaker: Great, thank you. Okay. Um, and then so all those in favor of supporting Sharon Sue for the board of trustees position, that looks unanimous. Thank you. Okay, great. All right. So then for the Parks and Recreation Commission, we have, um, What's

[00:24:28] Unknown Speaker: our discussion? I think, um, Mr. Davis is inadequate and good incumbents on that scene. Um, I have no problem with reappointing him. I guess the bigger discussion is what to do about the open seat. But, um, I can make it easily make the motion right now to reappoint Jonathan.

[00:24:54] Member Pat Showalter: And I'll be glad to 2nd that. I was impressed by his answer and I have seen him at a number of events and chatted with him, you know, individually. So I think that he, um, he's serving us well and there is some value in continuity, right?

[00:25:11] Unknown Speaker: Yeah. Okay. Well, um, Jonathan, in my opinion, more than adequate. So, uh, I will say, and perhaps that's, um, you know, I have had the opportunity to, um, interact with Mr. Davis. Um, I guess, when you went for the appointment 4 years ago, and, um, what's been so great is just how, um, he's been able to, like, lead the discussions not only in Parks and Rec as chair, but also for the pollinator habitat in his community in Shoreline West, Mariposa Park is such, um, you know, it wasn't on the list, but it was really the community efforts that decided to include that and we're so fortunate, I think, to have community led efforts to increase our pollinator habitats. And to me, that's quite impressive. In addition to everything else, you and your family does. So, um, why don't we take the vote? So all is in favor of reappointing Jonathan Davis to the Parks and Recreation Commission? All right. That is unanimous.

[00:26:10] Member Pat Showalter: All right. Thank you. Appreciate your work. And can we have a little bit of a discussion about this, this, uh, bylaws for the business? I mean, for the downtown committee. Oh,

[00:26:24] Unknown Speaker: but they said we couldn't. Oh,

[00:26:26] Member Pat Showalter: we could. because it wasn't on agenda, right?

[00:26:27] Unknown Speaker: Yeah, so, well, yeah, you can't change anything because this is not the form for that, but, um, the bylaws do restrict what appointments come out of what category and so that the bylaws specifically carve out that the chamber seat would come out of business that are, um, and the business associations like come out of. The property owner slash representative. Um,

[00:27:01] Member Pat Showalter: have, you know, I know we've been in the process of of redoing the, um, uh, revisiting the resolutions. Have we flown through the downtown committee yet? That

[00:27:11] Unknown Speaker: is with the department, and I don't have an update on what they plan. Okay,

[00:27:16] Member Pat Showalter: so it's possible it could be loosened in the future.

[00:27:20] Unknown Speaker: Yeah, yeah, I would recommend that if that's something you're interested in exploring, to bring it up under item 8, at air discounts. Um, to see if you have consensus from your colleagues, to um, explore that so that staff can bring that back as a more of a fully baked. Okay. Um, item, instead of having to change it. On consent. Does that sound good?

[00:27:45] Member Pat Showalter: Yeah. Okay, okay. I don't hate. So. Emily, maybe you can help me remember that. So how are you doing?

[00:27:55] Unknown Speaker: 632. think you're good. So I mean, are people out there?

[00:28:02] Unknown Speaker: Peter and Marisol are online.

[00:28:05] Unknown Speaker: Okay, great. Let's let's bring them and then we can, yeah, I think Jamil is out there. Oh, great. yes everybody. yeah. these guys in here? Yeah, please. It's your time, guys.

[00:28:19] Unknown Speaker: Any update on Sarah? Nope, I just left your voicemail. Thank you. Yeah, you still would like to interview her. Okay, great. They call me too. Great. Give it a Zoom info. Hello

[00:28:29] Unknown Speaker: Hello? What are we doing? Have a seat right here. Yes, please. Thank you. All right, so it's gonna be a little bit of a hybrid, because we have people in person, and then we'll have some applicants who will be online. Are they able to undo their video or is it just not possible? I can promote them, but I don't know if they want to show video, but yeah. Okay, great. Well, we're gonna give, um, our apple has the opportunity to come online and and show their video if they'd like, um, because we have applicants also, um, in person in the positive conference room. So, um, for the downtown committee. We have a downtown property owner and a representative of a business in the downtown seat. We have one specifically for the DBA. The applicant is Medisol, and then for business, at large seat. We have 2 seats and it looks like we have 3 applicants. We have Mike Casper Zack, Peter Katz, and Dennis Reitner. Ryder. Ryder. And then for community at large seat. We have one seat. I believe we have 4 applicants, correct? Yes, correct. Heather Green, Anna, Musienko, Rumesh, Ragajavon, and Dennis. Because you can also, you also qualify for the seat as well. And then Sumesh is traveling and we'll try to zoom in tonight. Okay, well, we'll look in the Zoom for them. And then are Heather or Anna joining us? I think that's Anna right there. That's Mary Saul and Peter. Do we have no update on whether Heather or Anna will be interviewing? They didn't say there was interviews

[00:30:13] Unknown Speaker: going to be available after 620 tonight. That's okay. Oh, yes. Okay, so, question mark.

[00:30:21] Unknown Speaker: And then did Anna confirm that she would be joining us in person or virtually? Nope, she did not. Okay,

[00:30:27] Unknown Speaker: so I'm just gonna cross, since we didn't hear it all. Okay.

[00:30:30] Unknown Speaker: And then for our neighborhood seat, we have one seat,

[00:30:32] Unknown Speaker: and we have one applicant, Jimmy. Yay, hi, Jimmy. Okay, so we will do the interviews. There, um, round robin style. So we're just work with us as we go. I think what we'll do. The way that it's ordered is muddy salt then, Mike, then Peter, right? Just go on that order. Okay, perfect. Okay. So we're gonna have to go online and in person and online and in person. So, um, and then we have 3 questions. Each of us will ask the questions and tell you how long that you have as we go through the process. So, um, the 1st person is Marisol and the vice mayor will ask that question.

[00:31:12] Unknown Speaker: And Marissa. Um, this 1st question is 30 seconds. Um, why do you want to serve on the downtown committee? Um,

[00:31:21] Marisol: I want to continue to serve on the downtown committee because I care about Mountain View and the role, the downtown plays in bringing our community together, um, through my work, producing events and collaborating with local businesses. I've seen how vibrant downtown supports both our economy and sense of community and I'd like to help to continue that momentum. Thank

[00:31:44] Unknown Speaker: you. I have the next question. It's 2 minutes. What do you, oh no, sorry. The next me? No, no, no, no, no. Sorry, we have to go question one. Mike. Okay. Um,

[00:31:56] Mike Casper Zack: like Marisol, I too would like to continue serving. Um, I do know that um, I have reached the term limit. But, uh, you know, 30 years of public service. I still want to contribute, contributing to the city of Mountain View. I've also become on the downtown committee somewhat of the historian because I've been around the community so long longer than most of the staff at the city. And, um, I work really closely with, um, staff. So. All right. Thank

[00:32:32] Unknown Speaker: you. The next one is for Mr. Katz. Um, it's 30 seconds. Why would you want to continue to serve on the downtown committee? Thank you.

[00:32:45] Peter Katz: Good evening, everyone. Um, I would like to continue to serve on the committee because I feel that, uh, we have a lot of things ahead of us, um, especially with the Pet Mall, um, going on downtown, and I think it's, uh, truly the the gem of our city, and uh, success downtown means success for all of us. Um, and so I think that the chamber is uniquely positioned in the middle of all these things happening. And, uh, want to make sure that we continue to foster the ecosystem that is down.

[00:33:21] Unknown Speaker: Okay, Mr. Katz. That 32nd time limit is a real stickler. All right, mister. Mr. Ryter.

[00:33:31] Dennis Ryder: Writer. German haider.

[00:33:36] Unknown Speaker: All right, you have 30 seconds for the second.

[00:33:38] Dennis Ryder: Okay, so yeah. Over the last 12 years, I've worked my way up as a food and beverage director now at the Ameswell Hotel, which is a luxury property in Silicon Valley before that at the casino. So I have an invested interest in hospitality, restaurants, hotels and so on and so forth, and they have been struggling over the last few years. So that's why I'm here to put my expert knowledge to good use when it comes to that specifically.

[00:34:08] Unknown Speaker: Wonderful. Um, next, we have Jamil. Oh, hi, thank you.

[00:34:14] Jamil: So the reason I want, like to, sort of on the, on committee because I just love downtown too much, you know, and I would just so close to downtown. I think that downtown is extension to my backyard, and downtown is good. My backyard is good. And with serving that many years, I have pulled up the relationship with the businesses where I can go and take them directly what city has to offer and bring it back to that. Thank you. Hey.

[00:34:50] Unknown Speaker: All right, I have the next question and then it goes, Mike. The next one. All right. Um, 2 minutes. What do you think of downtown Mountain View? How would you improve it? How would you balance the interest of businesses with those of the community?

[00:35:07] Mike Casper Zack: All of that in 2 minutes. Yes. We have a great vibrant downtown. Everybody knows it. But some of the things where we can improve our, we're beginning to get a number of vacancies. I know the council is working on, you know, uh, ways to, uh, combat that or to address that issue, uh, but one of the things is, is like, how long do we hold on to the ideas of retail? Everybody loves a vibrant retail. Maybe we should be putting office spaces or something in what would normally have been like a retail type establishment. Um, getting, you know, having the vibrancy downtown and more office space as well. We really noticed it in the food and beverage industry, without the employees downtown. Uh, you know, lunches are, it's really tough now. in Mountain View compared to what it was before the pandemic, where you had people like pure storage here. They were really, the employees will really get out and spend time down there. And I know this is tough with the community because there are segments of our community that don't think we should be having office space in the downtown. Um, I'm of the opposite belief. I mean, downtowns our where office does belong. We have the infrastructure. We have the parking, we have the transportation infrastructure. So those are some of the things. I've also talked with Amanda and with Christian a little bit about, perhaps the downtown committee should be expanded to being economic development and supporting staff in a broader economic development capacity, not just downtown. So, but those are just like, you know, ideas. Thank you.

[00:37:04] Unknown Speaker: All right. Peter, same question, 2 minutes. Would you like me to repeat it? If you wouldn't mind. What do you think of downtown Mountain View, how would you improve it? How would you balance the interests of businesses with those of the community? Thanks. Um,

[00:37:21] Peter Katz: so, uh, 1st of all, I I said this earlier, and I'll say it again, is I think that, uh, you know, downtown is is a jewel. It's a gem. It is, if you ask people, you know, a dozen people, what do they love most about Mountain View, downtown is always number one or number two. So, um, I think that what we also have is the opportunity to both bring in new businesses as well as preserve the ones that are already there, and the more that we can do to do both those things, helps everyone. Um, everyone loves knowing that there's a small storefront nearby and so we need to make sure that storefront uh, still stays vibrant. Um, I also feel that we um, need to think about downtown as the entire length of Castro Street, not just the 10, 20, 300 blocks, which get most of the attention. What can we do to really bring vibrancy to the rest, the other blocks as well and to really tie it all together? Because, you know, it's that age old thing about, you need people, you need residents, you need businesses, you need, visitors, you need all of the above in order to have a really healthy and thriving downtown. Um, You also need to, I mean, one of the things that makes um, our downtown special too are the people. And so the more that we can do to put a face on the businesses. Um, the event that we had at the uh, Monte Carlo, I think was one step in that direction where we really said, you know, this, this, these are the people behind the storefronts. These are the issues that they're facing. And as importantly, this is what you can do as residents and as visitors to help. Um, all of those kind of activities work together. get us all, get us all rowing in the same direction, if you will. Um, I also feel that um, the more that we can do to encourage people from the outside world, um, to come downtown, um, the better. Um, you know me. I can talk about downtown for for half an hour, but I think I've only got a few seconds left, so thank you.

[00:39:20] Unknown Speaker: Great. Thank you. All right. Dennis, same question for you. Alright. Um,

[00:39:26] Dennis Ryder: yeah, so I'm still fairly new to Mountain Viewer, uh, so I've been only here for 2 years, but from what I've seen in downtown, it has a huge potential. Um, uh, it's a great, nice little area. I love the vibrancy there, the different restaurants and so on and so forth. However, one thing that I noticed right away, it could use a little bit of a modernizing uptick. So what I mean by that is like building a, let's say, a digital infrastructure so that we actually connect the businesses to faces. So have like a cool website that tells you the story about who these business owners are, what are they doing? What is their vision and so on and so forth. And then also taking this a step further into the social media around, uh, of things, because that's what then ultimately connects the community to the business owners, because they start now to learn who these people are and you put a face uh, on that. Another thing is that I could help with is, are these restaurants operating at their maximum best in terms of efficiency. And I know coming from my background, there is a lot of times, it's a family owned business. They don't have the bandwidth or the resources to make it operate as efficiently as possible. And this is where I could help. I could provide resources, know how I've been doing this now for 12 years, large food and beverage operations from like casinos to luxury hotels. And I know that sometimes, the restaurants, they just don't have the bandwidth, or that they need in order to succeed. And then also another thing that I would like to do is to implement something that restaurants understand that they can actually start to share resources, instead of having to battle this out on their own. And they are operating on... Thank

[00:41:29] Unknown Speaker: you. All right, let's see. Hi. Hi. So

[00:41:36] Jamil: then? I mean, uh, everything would be the set. Plus, um, we're talking about the Jubilee and the Crown, is, is, is, is kind of very interesting to find something which we, all right, but a couple of these things issues we're having there downtown is the empty storefronts. So we need to continue looking at it and comparing us or taking example with other cities, what the other cities are doing constantly. First, we need to help the businesses. By having special programs like we had the program to, I mean, we have lots of money to, on the front of the store. those kind of things. And plus, uh, we need to get other, these businesses involved because what they, so they, they take part in it. Like, we have the program of the Monte Carlo, there's only 3 businesses, some businesses came by. So what we did as a community member, we went out to the other businesses, were you there? No, that's what happened and they were asking questions. We can brought those things up. So we got to take more active role in that one. And, uh... I mean, other thing is, like, earlier, what brought up, that we need to consider the downtown all the way from block one to the all the way to the end, and figure out what we can redo, you know. Or maybe even further on the other side. All the way to the rose market. Yes. Okay. Thank you.

[00:43:13] Unknown Speaker: All right. And I last for this question is Marisol. Just let me know if you want me to repeat it.

[00:43:22] Marisol: The 2 minute question. think I got it. Okay. Um, I think that downtown Mountain View is one of the best examples of a welcome of a walkable and welcoming downtown. Um, it's diverse and it's full of character and when it's activated, it's really lively. That there's always room to grow. I like to see more cultural programming and support for small and emerging businesses so we can continue acting both as residents and visitors. Balancing the needs of a businesses and community really comes down to communication and collaboration. So when the business businesses succeed, the community benefits, and when the community feels connected, they support local businesses. I'd focus to on initiatives that encourage both sides to work together, like public events, outdoor activations and policies that make it easier to do business while maintaining downtown's charm and accessibility. Thank you.

[00:44:15] Unknown Speaker: Right, that's done with question two. So, Question

[00:44:20] Unknown Speaker: 3 is council member show alter, and we'll start with Peter.

[00:44:24] Unknown Speaker: Peter, I didn't Dennis.

[00:44:26] Member Pat Showalter: Oh, all right. Yeah, because it's got around. Okay. So, Peter, here is question 3 and you get one minute for this one. The city has an economic vitality strategy. How can the city assist downtown businesses? You could talk for half hour on this, but... I

[00:44:47] Peter Katz: think the important thing about the economic vitality strategy is that, um, it involves many, many different facets that all work together. And so how can the city help? There are many ways in there, um, in terms of identifying where are the barriers? So, um, we've, uh, both the, uh, economic vitality strategy as well as the, um, the retail report, talk about how, um, the kind of spaces that we have and that some of them are like rabbit warrens and so on. And how can we relax some of those restrictions? How can we have an entertainment district so that you can actually carry your glass from, you know, one place to another? Um, maybe there's some exciting events that we can do like that are unusual, like a maker space or something like that. And all of that involves both permission as well as assistance from the city to make it easier to help with the, um, promotion, et cetera, um, and even funding, um, comes comes into play. Um, you know, are there grants or are there things like that that can happen? Thank

[00:45:50] Member Pat Showalter: you. Thanks. Very good. All right, you got a lot in in 22 minutes. Okay, and next comes. Dennis Ryder. Would you like me to repeat the question? No, no, no.

[00:46:05] Dennis Ryder: I was waiting for the peep, but... Okay. Go wait to the bean. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think one of the challenges for Mount view is because it does so well with the tech world, so you have all the big business, but it's also focusing on the small businesses here as well. So what I think downtown is, is for me, that's the area where the small business needs to thrive. And I think it's all about finding that balance. Another thing is that the daytime traffic for downtown has broken down pretty dramatically since COVID. So I think instead of going after those customers, it's again broadened the reach because those customers most likely will not come back because they're changing consumer habits, but to find new ways to engage maybe people past the boundaries of mountain view. Thank you.

[00:47:05] Member Pat Showalter: Next is... Jamil?

[00:47:09] Jamil: Hi. Can you repeat the question?

[00:47:11] Member Pat Showalter: Of course. Um, yeah, the city has an economic vitality strategy. How can the city assess downtown businesses?

[00:47:20] Jamil: One of the best uh, way would be to talk to business, talk and talk and talk, talk to businesses, get their input a long time, and then, um, Also, uh, see that how this is doing, right now, as compared to what, what, where, you know, per year. And, um, all sorts, the, um, Some of the programs, like, city had, we call the business, businesses, you know, during the certain slow time. Also, um, The, um, other thing what we did, make sure that the businesses, um, I mean, can take advantage of the, what our city has to offer. And uh, It's probably about it, you know.

[00:48:15] Member Pat Showalter: Okay, thank you. All right. It's just 2 minutes, and the next one will be Mike. No, Marisol. And then Mike. Marisol are you there? Yes, I. Would you like me to repeat the question? No, I got it. Okay, thank you. Thank you, though. Um,

[00:48:35] Marisol: so the city can support downtown businesses by making it easier to thrive. So through clear communication and streamline permitting, um, and programs that encourage foot traffic and visibility, continuing to invest in marketing downtown, creating partnerships for events, and supporting business' innovation will keep this area vibrant. In short, the city can be a connector, helping businesses grow while showing downtown welcoming and dynamic. Thank you.

[00:49:04] Member Pat Showalter: And then we get to Mike.

[00:49:08] Mike Casper Zack: So a couple of things. We spent a lot of time in the city working on placemaking. And I think one of the things we can be doing is better place making in downtown Mountain View, you know, the the 300 block, the um, pedestrian mall area is a great way. Great start on that. But placemaking, getting people here that can then use the businesses that are here, whether it's restaurants, retailers, or just regular commercial businesses. The other thing is, Mountain View has to be inviting 2 businesses coming here. It's not just the businesses that are here. We're still not perceived, it's a great place to do business. It's still tough to get permits, get through the planning department. And, you know, I really think, you know, our planning department has gotten used to having to deal with the Googles of the world, and they're not dealing with used to dealing with the Ludwigs of the world. And they have vastly different resources. Thank you.

[00:50:14] Unknown Speaker: Anyone else? everybody, right? That's everything. right. So I think that's everyone who attended. Um, our our downtown committee interviews. So we have one seat for the downtown property, owner and a representative of business. We have 2 for the business at large seats, and we have one for community at large seat, and one for the neighborhood seat. So, um, That concludes the interviews. Thank you to everybody for coming. Uh, I think we're back on schedule. Is that right? Okay, so we're gonna just keep going through the interview process. And, um, the city clerk's office will be in touch about the appointments. So thank you very much. Thank

[00:50:55] Mike Casper Zack: you. I applied for, I think, was the at-large business, but I'm also a resident, so if there's a conference, there was something.

[00:51:03] Unknown Speaker: I think it all sorted itself out where it'll be one person for the downtown property owner and representative, and then we have 3 people under the business at large, but 2 of you can apply for that, and Mr. Ryder can be the community at large seat. And he was the only applicant who came for the community at large seat. Um, so I think it'll sort itself out. Yes. Thank you very much. All right, thank you. Yes, you're welcome to stay or you may go and enjoy the rest of your night.

[00:51:36] Mike Casper Zack: I like the downtown committee. It's morning meetings.

[00:51:39] Unknown Speaker: Yes, I know with coffee and breakfast. No coffee, no breakfast. Okay, well, and my, well, maybe maybe Dennis will do it.

[00:51:48] Mike Casper Zack: Those are, those are the real. Wonderful.

[00:51:51] Unknown Speaker: Thank you. If you don't mind taking your name tag, Mr. Casper Zack. Sorry, I got you. All right. Okay, so we'll move on to performing arts. We have one applicant in one seat. Hello, how are you? See you again. Oh, okay. So you'll ask that one, right? Okay,

[00:52:16] Unknown Speaker: there was a change in the question. So I'm gonna ask the 1st one and then the viceross, the 2nd and the, um, uh, chair member show Alteross, the 3rd one. Okay. I said okay. Um, because I don't put the edits on that. Okay. So, the 1st question for 30 seconds. Why do you want to serve? why do you want to continue serving on the performing arts committee?

[00:52:37] Public Speaker: Well, uh, so I been in mountain you since 1997, and I have been an active member of uh, performing arts, power center for the performing arts. I'm attending almost every play by Federal Works. And I have some ideas, um, to invite other artists and performers. Um, and then I've been active in, attending Lucy, uh, Lucy Packard, uh, theater, in, uh, West Bay Opera, in San Francisco, in... But

[00:53:12] Unknown Speaker: yeah, that's it. Yes, 30 seconds is so fast, but she's gonna

[00:53:15] Unknown Speaker: ask you another question. Yeah, and you get a 2 minute one. But it's a long question too. So bear with me. So this question is a 2 minute answer. Describe your vision of the cultural scene and artistic desires of mountain view and the surrounding community. Oh, uh, so your the, your vision of the cultural scene and artistic communities, and what policies of the performing arts center are you interested in working on?

[00:53:41] Public Speaker: So I, I'd like to, um, you know, focus on like diverse population and mountain view, because we have, um, international community young professionals as well as, um, older, middle-aged, uh, and I would like to introduce some more, like a symphony, symphony performances, perhaps partnering with uh, San Francisco, city of San Francisco, Palalta, and uh, bring in more classical music. Perhaps, um, as well as um, modern uh, singers. And perhaps even organizing something by a dance. Uh, like we had program in uh, the outdoor uh, performers, right? Like we had different bands performing and it was really popular in the summer, but in the winter we can do it indoors. So, um, We can think about the movie nights. Um, just something, something different to appeal to a public because I was observing, um, you know, people different ages, like dancing, uh, when I go into the performance again, it's, uh, it's a certain audience attending, but we can introduce like, um, diverse program to appeal to different, um, by population interest. So, um, what else? I was thinking about uh, having an exhibit, like art exhibits, um, uh, perhaps, again, we can vary like international, um, artists, um, I can, uh, perhaps discuss it, with other members of performing art committee and uh, figure out, uh, who would be uh, good options. But impression is, would be, of course, very interesting. And, uh, I can perhaps, um, figure out with the young museum, with introducing, like, you know, okay.

[00:55:44] Member Pat Showalter: Great. Okay, um. The 3rd question, this is a short one too, just one minute. What do you think should be the priorities of the committee in the coming few years?

[00:55:58] Public Speaker: Ah, so, well, we need to, um, attract more people come in and, um, enjoying our article brings of different nature. And uh, so we wanted to be um, entertaining, safe, um, We want people to be more curious. We want people, uh, to feel safe and, uh, Yeah, it's a, it's a 2 way street, we just, um, bring more talents to mountain view, not necessarily having to drive to cities like San Francisco, San Jose, and, um, collaborate with, um, other, uh, performance centers, like in our sister cities, about the San Jose. And uh, Yeah, basically just have more um, active uh, art scene so that people don't feel obligated to to drive to the city. I would just, you know, focus on that.

[00:57:01] Unknown Speaker: Thank you All right. Well, thank you. Uh, that concludes the our interview questions. Um, and there's uh, one seat and you are the uh, applicant for that. So we will, um, continue on with our interviews, but will the city clerk's office will let you know after we take our road at the end of all our interviews? Thank you very much. And thank you. Yes, thank you for your service. It was a good meeting you. You too. All right. So then I think that brings us to the last committee of the night. right? Which is our senior advisory committee, but we have Deanne, David, and did Maricella. And I sell the show.

[00:57:40] Unknown Speaker: She's on a flight. I don't get a Zoom next. Okay. Oh, okay. Oh, oh, sorry, Deanna with true? Yes,

[00:57:47] Member Pat Showalter: she just withdrew. Okay, so we have David then. Okay. Okay. Got it. All right. Well,

[00:57:55] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: um, I had the pleasure of meeting David last week at his ribbon cutting for his business in Mountain View. And now everyone else gets to meet him as well. Um, okay, so we have, uh, let's see, 2 seats, but one applicant. Well, I guess 2 applicants, but the one we can't interview. So we'll, I guess, have to discuss that later during the discussion portion. So, um, David, we have 3 um, no, we have 4 4 questions. So, how about one, two, do you mind doing three, four? Oh, that's fine. Perfect. All right. Okay. All

[00:58:34] Councilmember Emily Ramos: right, I will start. This 1st question is 30 seconds. They'll come at you fast. Um, why do you want to serve on the senior advisory committee? So

[00:58:43] David Kim: I'm a 25 year resident, Mountain View. So this is where I live. This is where I work. This is where I pray and this is where I play. And for 25 years, I've been so busy with, uh, my work in medical devices, I haven't been able to give back. So this is my 1st time in my 1st opportunity to be able to do my civic duty and provide some support for the work that the city might read. That's it. And

[00:59:11] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: the 2nd question, it's a minute. What do you think would be likely areas of particular focus for you on the committee? I

[00:59:20] David Kim: think this committee is unique in that we don't have a committee for different ethnic groups. So it's a very specific need. And what I'm finding is that, uh, getting all this complex and difficult and challenging. And so for me, the big focus is it's much easier to get old when you have resources. When you don't have resources, it's very complex and difficult to navigate, all the things that you have to do. So for me, a focus for me is to make sure that those that are under resource, that don't have, uh, the, the answers to their questions. They have the ability to get kind of the help they need in order to survive. Thank you. Okay,

[01:00:02] Member Pat Showalter: and um, then this one is 2 minutes. What would you like to see a senior advisory committee do?

[01:00:11] David Kim: Thank you for the question. Um, I would like to see us represent and give a voice. to those people that are in this stage of life, and actually, I think it's an interesting thing. All of us will hopefully get to that stage of life where we become someone that is represented by this committee. Um, I would like us to make sure that their needs are being represented to, um, to the city, to others, uh, because sometimes it's really easy to disregard those that don't have a voice. And so, for me, I would like to see us amplify the voice of those people, uh, that are in the state of of being old, of having specific issues around being old, um, because there are specific issues around that. Um, many of the, the age that people are, that are in their senior years are retired. So they are living on fixed incomes. And so they have specific challenges, especially living in the Bay Area. Um, associated with being a senior. So I think that's a big thing. They have much more challenges when it comes to medical needs and medical challenges. I think that's that's a unique challenge as well. And I think it's also challenging to get old when you're in a in an area where technology is moving forward so fast that I have a hard time keeping up. And so I think there's, there's a challenge in terms of trying to keep people connected and um, um, having access to the things that they need to do in order to live their day to day lives.

[01:01:44] Member Pat Showalter: Okay. And then we have a 4th one, which is how will you ensure that your personal business activities do not influence or appear to influence your decisions or responsibilities if you were appointed to the senior advisory committee. What?

[01:02:01] David Kim: How long for that question? Um, 2 minutes? Yeah, 2 minutes. Sure. Thank you for the question as well. As a, as a business owner. Um, as a business owner for senior, uh, or actually, it's not senior care, um, uh, business. It is an in-home care business. We serve mostly seniors, but it is anyone that is in need as an adult. Um, I would, I would recuse myself from anything that would give the appearance of some sort of compost. My business is really, I'm there to serve. And so I, I hope that there isn't anything that becomes a complex. What I want to provide isn't a good. It's a person, a human being that can provide services and support for someone that is in need of that sort of support. So I hope that I wouldn't be in a situation where, um, there would be a perceived conflict between how I would, um, represent, um, as seniors and my business. I think in the best case, what is good for the seniors is also good for my business as well. But if there was any, um, issues that would rise to that level, I would simply refuse myself. Thank you. Thank you. Well,

[01:03:27] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: I think that concludes all of our questions for the senior advisor committee, so thank you for patiently waiting. Um, So you're, you're welcome to stay, um, or you may go, whichever you prefer. Um, but the committee will, um, bring the matter back to the committee for discussion and a recommendation to the council. So we already have our board of trustees recommendation, our trusts and your commission, um, recommendation, and I don't believe that did we hear from, um, uh, Sarah? No, we did not hear from Sarah. We're just gonna continue if that's okay. Council members show Walter. We didn't, we didn't, uh, we were giving Sarah an extra opportunity, but she didn't show up. So if that's okay. 710. So, that's reasonable. Okay. Just wanted to check on traffic. Yeah. Well, it's a Monday. It's a Monday. And my childcare was a little late, so that's why I was late. Okay. So, um, and then so now all we have, the balance is the one seat, uh, specifically reserved for the downtown business association portion of the downtown committee, downtown property owner, and a representative of a business in the downtown category, 2 seats for the business at large category, one seat, for the community at large category, and one seat, specifically reserved for the neighborhood association, appointee. We have one seat on the performing arts committee, and 2 seats on the senior advisory committee. So do we have discussion from the committee? I can move forward with emotion.

[01:05:06] Councilmember Emily Ramos: Okay, okay. All right, so let's start with this. For the downtown committee. I move that we recommend to appoint Marisol, Malara, or the downtown property and or a representative of business. My Casper Zack, Peter Katz, for the business at large seat, Dennis writer, writer, for the community at large seat, Jamil Sheikh, for the neighborhood associate, neighborhood association seat. Uh, Irina Kron, or the Performing Arts Commission, and David Kim for the senior advisory committee. I 2nd that. Okay. All right, so we have a motion, right?

[01:05:46] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Are you staring at Romas and a 2nd? Bye, Kelsey for Show Walter. Um, the senior advisory committee has 2 seats, and we do have an applicant who has not withdrawn, but who is unable to be interviewed. Is that correct? Did we want to discuss that? Or do you want to take maybe we take this motion that we can discuss that seat? Okay. All right. So why don't we take the motion at hand? Um so all those in favor of the motion. Okay, that's unanimous. And then, um, did we want to revisit that we have one applicant for senior advisory, um, that we weren't able to interview, or...

[01:06:25] Councilmember Emily Ramos: And, as a family, we use course and rec permission. So what happens to this thing?

[01:06:30] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: Yeah, we actually heard from this person. Oh. Okay. We actually heard from this individual that they were on a new thing. Oh, so that's good. Fair enough. So that they were, that they would, they confirmed interest, but they were on an airplane. I think with the applicant for Parks and Rec. We did not hear anything like that. Okay. Yes.

[01:06:51] Unknown Speaker: I like City. Remind the, um, the, the, uh, council policy requires someone to have interviewed at least once.

[01:07:01] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: I see. And the applicant has not, the senior advisory committee applicant has not been interviewed before. If

[01:07:09] Unknown Speaker: they were an incumbent, you can move forward. Thank you. Okay. So

[01:07:13] Member Pat Showalter: we'll have to have another committee meeting to do Parks and Rec and yeah, senior advisor. Okay. All right. It's

[01:07:22] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: all right. So I think that, um,

[01:07:26] Member Pat Showalter: They would, they would be. Oh, sorry, to interrupt. They would be seated in January anyway, right? Correct. So we have a little bit of, so

[01:07:34] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: I think it's to the, looking to the committee, do we squeeze in? Interviews for those 2 before the end of the year. If we can, I would like to do that.

[01:07:44] Unknown Speaker: The alternative would be if we had applicants, um, when it comes straight to council. Instead of doing a 2 step process, that could be something. Um, what do you want? The council can overwrite it, policy, and that.

[01:08:03] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: But they would have to come and be interviewed in front of all 7 of us, correct? Yeah,

[01:08:07] Unknown Speaker: I mean, that's funny. If you wanted to, but yeah, yeah. The council can waive its policy, but like, like,

[01:08:13] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: committee can't, correct. Understood. Thank you. So quick, appreciate that. So looking to the committee. Since the committees aren't seated till January, it would be great to try to get it full. Right? So maybe we just work together to try to squeeze something in and I, I think our, we would have to reissue the, um, notice them, correct? And then invite those who did not, did not make it tonight that they can have another opportunity. Yeah,

[01:08:50] Member Pat Showalter: this is odd. I think, yeah. I don't know. Yeah, no. No, I think that's a good idea. Yeah, let's do it. If it's, yeah. I just feel, it

[01:09:00] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: would be nice for all our committees to at least be full going into January. And then if there's other issues that arise, you know, other issues arise, but at least, um, so then we probably need to find a date in November or November. I just December gets tricky, but yeah, I mean, we could. Well, it's

[01:09:23] Member Pat Showalter: only going to be half an hour meeting. Yeah. For us. I mean, for you it's a lot more work. Yeah. Well,

[01:09:30] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: and then the noticing, we need, is there a certain duration that we have to have the application out for? No, we just need to notice it again.

[01:09:39] Unknown Speaker: And then noticing it's already been done. This is really just to give people an extra opportunity to apply. So there's no legal requirement. Okay. Okay.

[01:09:48] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: So then. We can try to find. Some more applicants. And then we just need to sync ourselves too. Yeah.

[01:09:59] Councilmember Emily Ramos: But it's only for those 2 committees,

[01:10:01] Unknown Speaker: right? There's also, um, the downtown. Oh, yeah. downtown is in downtown. advertise for that committee also. So three. Right. So,

[01:10:13] Councilmember Ellen Kamei: an hour. An hour. 45 minutes an hour. Yeah, I would say for that one. lets just tell them the time and I'll come at the same time. Right, exactly. And then that way no one is. Confused, yeah. Yeah. Because that can happen, right? Okay, so we will, I think that that's a really great way to try to um, address the issue. We have the motion, the recommendation. This will be brought forward at the December 16th, um, city council meeting, so that gives us opportunity to provide a full recommendation, right? Okay, great. Any other discussion? Okay. All right. So we have, uh, item 6, our committee, staff, comments, questions, committee reports. Anything? All right. So then we can move on to item 7, adjournment. This meeting is adjourned at 715.

[01:11:07] Member Pat Showalter: Oh wonderful. Oh, my God. Thank you so much. Thank you. Congratulations. I really appreciate your service. I know

[01:11:16] David Kim: it's very time consumable, but...

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