November 2, 2023 Council Appointments Review Committee

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[00:00:03] Unknown Speaker: Sure, hits. Okay. So, now, um, we get to, okay, so, uh, the first thing is minutes approval. Does anyone have comments on the minutes? Motion would be in order if you don't have comments.

[00:00:24] Unknown Speaker: I move approval. Second. All those in favor.

[00:00:28] Unknown Speaker: Aye. Aye. Okay, the minutes are improved. Um, oral communications from the public. I don't

[00:00:36] Unknown Speaker: think we have any... Okay, we don't... Let me check on... for you. Okay. You don't have any attendees on it. Okay. So,

[00:00:46] Unknown Speaker: we now go into new business, which is for division and committee openings. And the... Okay, there's... So, um, on this, the question is, there, you have a master list of suggested questions? Does anyone want to change any of these questions? And I suggest I'm gonna suggest that I read them all, because that's what we've done in the past, but if you want to participate in reading, you're really, that's really important to you. Do tell me you can object to it. Yeah, the way we've done it before. And we do get, I think, follow up questions, if they're relevant and not giving people special advantages, is what I remember. What do you think? I have

[00:01:40] Unknown Speaker: a suggestion that for the... advisory bodies, where we only have one applicant, we only ask one question. Yeah,

[00:01:48] Unknown Speaker: that's good. Which one?

[00:01:49] Unknown Speaker: It's a library board. Um, I like number one. Okay,

[00:01:54] Unknown Speaker: good. I agree. And then

[00:01:57] Unknown Speaker: I don't have the list, so I'm not sure... Um, I think senior.

[00:02:01] Member Pat Showalter: Senior, yeah, senior, we just have one. First question. Okay.

[00:02:05] Unknown Speaker: That's good. Um, and then, I don't know if we need four questions. And so many questions, for all reasons. Why do you want to serve? What are your thoughts? Which demographic group do you feel? What should be priority? Demographic? Yeah, so I'm...

[00:02:22] Unknown Speaker: Just one? Number... that we need for parks and rec. I'm fine.

[00:02:29] Member Pat Showalter: Okay. Well, I mean, on the other hand, it would, it surprised us. Maybe it would surprise them. Okay,

[00:02:38] Unknown Speaker: what about... I don't like talent and sea. What I would do, if you told me one demographic group, I would think that I had to, that I couldn't vary from that, and I would be, like, four

[00:02:49] Lacey: year olds, Hispanic. Oh, my God, which one?

[00:02:53] Unknown Speaker: You know, it throws you off. So, I... All right. Thoughts, programs, and demographics, I could ask, but I don't want to...

[00:03:00] Member Pat Showalter: The other thing is, the truth is, for, um... Parks and Rec, you have one opening and one incumbent, so... No. Oh, there's just... We have other people. Just got Johannes.

[00:03:12] Unknown Speaker: Well, only one seat open. Right. So,

[00:03:17] Unknown Speaker: two applicants. We have three applicants, right? No, Jill and Jow? She dropped out. She dropped it out. Withdrew her allocated. Sure, we got one memo, and she got the animal. Oh, yeah, I didn't get that. No, no. His earrings. Um, how about if I... What are your thoughts on, uh, programs that you'd like to see offered in demographic groups you'd like to see, well, served? Does that, or does that not happen? I

[00:03:39] Unknown Speaker: would change to, um, because both of the applicants are pretty well informed, I would expand, too, to ask about their thoughts on the parks and recreation strategy.

[00:03:52] Unknown Speaker: Okay, okay. What are your thoughts on that? But that's the same as what do you think should be the priority for? But maybe I... I

[00:04:03] Unknown Speaker: would be fine with asking two questions. Okay.

[00:04:05] Unknown Speaker: Okay, I'll do that. Perks, perks. and rec strategy. Yeah.

[00:04:11] Unknown Speaker: Which, you're right, I think, combines to win four. Okay. Okay.

[00:04:16] Unknown Speaker: Okay. Then, uh, bike pedestrian, what do you want to consider? What are the two most important? Just ask what are the most important? One of the few most... Accommodation. I'm okay with getting rid of three. your shoes.

[00:04:39] Member Pat Showalter: Yeah. Those priorities. That's way too detailed for this. Okay. And

[00:04:44] Unknown Speaker: then, uh, bicycle we have. What is your implement? Okay, what do you think the role? Why do you want to

[00:04:54] Member Pat Showalter: serve? I think for senior advisory community. Why doesn't anybody else want to fly? I don't have that. Well,

[00:05:03] Unknown Speaker: then I can talk to you about that. Are there particular kinds of artwork... public location? Arts committee, I would kind of like to take out two and three and just say, What's your role of visual arts committee? Why do you want to serve, and what do you think will be the most important thing in the coming two years? Yeah.

[00:05:29] Unknown Speaker: It's kind of like parks and rec commission. There's the public arts strategy. And we might want to, I don't know how well versed all of the epicants are, but it might be worth asking, what are your thoughts on the public arts definition?

[00:05:40] Member Pat Showalter: Okay. Yeah, what is your impression of that? Okay. Public art strategy? Yeah. Uh huh. Okay.

[00:05:48] Unknown Speaker: Which will tell us if they've been paying attention. Okay. I'm okay with the mirror reading because I am functionally illiterate, and I couldn't do it anyway. Okay.

[00:06:01] Unknown Speaker: Okay, so... We have questions. Okay, and now...

[00:06:06] Member Pat Showalter: Are we gonna do it? Are we gonna do all the interviews and then make decisions, or are we gonna just make decisions? I mean, messages as we go or how do you want to do this? I know, I was Trump. Can we announce this at the end? I think...

[00:06:18] Unknown Speaker: It is up to you whether or not you want to do it as you go. I mean, you've got people here for interviews, so I might suggest that you move through the interviews. Yeah, I think so. And then make your decision. All right, I think that's fine. You know, if you don't feel like that's too much to kind of hold. No, I think that's good. I

[00:06:33] Unknown Speaker: think that's good. I think I can do that. Because

[00:06:35] Member Pat Showalter: it's really, it's really good. There's really three groups right there.

[00:06:38] Unknown Speaker: So, board of library trustees. Have an update. An attachment three for Tutu Thompson. Um, the percentage of tenants have regular special meetings should be 86%. Okay. And if you're ready for the first person, I'll call them in. His name is Cool Dan. Cool paper?

[00:06:56] Member Pat Showalter: Oh cold it. Okay, cool it. Okay. He's a nice guy. Is that right where?

[00:07:02] Unknown Speaker: I see him all over the place. He's

[00:07:04] Unknown Speaker: everywhere lately. Yeah, he's, um,

[00:07:06] Member Pat Showalter: sounds like it. I mean I don't know who I know him, but I probably do. Hello? Hi. Hi. Oh, yes.

[00:07:12] Cool Deep: Hi. I see some familiar faces. Just saying.

[00:07:17] Unknown Speaker: We were just saying that you're a familiar face. That would be me. Um, yes. Yeah, I mean, it's good that you're going to a lot of community events. Now, so, um, we are, um... First, would my first question is, can you accurately pronounce your, uh, full name for me, so that I won't use pronounce it? Sure.

[00:07:39] Cool Deep: So, cool deep, so think of the eye as a double E. Okay. It always helps, and then, for the last name, ambassador. So the H is silent. Okay, I think. That makes it a lot easier for everyone. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yes.

[00:07:51] Unknown Speaker: I can call you Cool Deep? Yes. Okay. Cool. So, we've narrowed it down to one question, as for this one, I don't know why. The competition is not particularly strong. Um, so the question we have for you is, why do you want to serve on the Board of Library Trustees, and what do you think would be likely areas of particular focus for you on the board? And you can speak, or do we have a timer?

[00:08:18] Unknown Speaker: Yes, but how long would you like for?

[00:08:20] Unknown Speaker: You can speak for three minutes or less if you are more succinct. Sure.

[00:08:24] Cool Deep: So, you know, I think I explained in my application. I grew up all over the place, U.S. and Canada. Eight different cities, two countries, obviously, ten different schools. Libraries were a safe haven for me, and every city and every school. For me, it was just about learning, learning new ideas, learning about different places, et cetera, and it was always just a place. But I treasured growing up, and I've gotten older, and became an investor. It's a place where I do investment research, you know, cool magazines from Flipster, et cetera. It's just a place that I've always seen as a community gathering spot in some ways, you know, you're looking for a job, you may look through job ads at the library, or use computers there. It's just always been a place that's held a special place in my heart, so to speak. And now I think I'm at a stage where I can contribute in terms of, uh, the fact that I have now a well rounded enough background to be able to get back, in terms of, say, uh, looking at, um, so I have a lot of friends in technology, so maybe looking at the website could be one thing that we do. I know that they did a redesign recently, which I think highly of, actually. And then, also, just thinking through other areas where the library could expand into. I know that they do tax prep, for example, and then talks about drug abuse, office book talks, video talks, et cetera, but seeing what the offerings are. See, like, extended or changed. I'm just eager to give back. I think I have a decent record in terms of having led the Stanford Peninsula Alumni Club recently for three years as the president, stepped down for that. So now, looking at new challenges that I want to take on, and I really enjoyed attending the library board meetings that I have, and it would be a great place for me. Thank you. Uh,

[00:10:17] Unknown Speaker: do any other committee members have follow up questions of clarification? You're

[00:10:24] Unknown Speaker: okay with the time commitment? Two to four hours per month, evening, third Monday of each month? Well,

[00:10:30] Cool Deep: I'm self employed, so time is, uh, not usually an issue with me. I have enough time to do my day job, and then to an extensive amount of volunteer work on top of that. So, it's not a problem. Well, that's good.

[00:10:43] Member Pat Showalter: What's your favorite genre of literature? I

[00:10:47] Cool Deep: really love books that tell a good story, fictional way, but relate to real life. So I've always... I know this may sound a bit commonplace. But I really fell in love with Greg Gatsby. Scott Fitzgerald, when I was taught it in 11th grade. It was a great critique of the Gilded Age, set up as fiction, and open to interpretation, because Fitzgerald chose every word so efficiently that he left kind of wondering about the meaning of certain things, right? And take a certain word out, you swap another word in, what would it mean? And there's even, you know, to this day, there are so many things about what the book actually means, is that a critique on American greed, is it about race relations, about this, is about that, is... is Gatsby, that era is Bernie Madoff. For example, that's one theory, or is Gatsby secretly? This is one of the more controversial theories, but is Gatsby secretly a black man? Ah, that is controversial. Doesn't love that one. It's a very obscure theory, but it is debated in academic circles, actually. So it's just so... amazing, a book that so many years after it's been published, people are still talking about it. So I really love books like that that make a huge impact. I could

[00:12:08] Unknown Speaker: definitely start a book now, but... Anyway... More questions of clarification. Okay, so the procedure is, we are going, because there are many people waiting. We are going to go through all the interviews. This is a public meeting. You can wait around, if there's room for everybody in this room, we've been booted to, but, um, you can wait around to see whether you get on the committee or not, um, but I I...

[00:12:38] Unknown Speaker: Lots of success or high. Well, be one applicant in the room helps.

[00:12:44] Member Pat Showalter: Thank you so much for coming. Yes, thank you. And for your interest. Yes. In serving the community, right? I appreciate it, yes. Yes. It's

[00:12:52] Cool Deep: been good to, uh, see everyone here. Okay. Pick go. Hey. While

[00:12:58] Unknown Speaker: we're waiting for the next group, Is there a minute assignment you'd like to get into the car?

[00:13:04] Unknown Speaker: I'm taking two minutes for each one. What do you guys think is that, too? Is it

[00:13:07] Unknown Speaker: too long? I'm down for less time. I want everyone to go home before, um, six ideally. Hi,

[00:13:16] Unknown Speaker: welcome. Hello. Hello. I have name plate. Thanks for doing. Hello. Yes. Oh,

[00:13:21] Unknown Speaker: yours are two sided.. So,

[00:13:29] Unknown Speaker: um, let me just get started with the procedure, I'm the committee chair and we'll be asking all the questions. You'll have two minutes for each question. I think we don't have a timer to show you, but... Not a show, but... show, but... We've been booted to a, you know, not our usual room, so I guess we'll be a little informal with that. Maybe you can give a warning at some, some killer time, but we won't. Um, give you demerits for going over, certainly not under people to both of those, especially going under. Um, and we are going to, uh, have our discussion and choice after, we've interviewed everyone, 'cause there are a lot of people waiting out there. You have a choice of either staying here and hanging around, or we can, um, we can notify you later, whichever you prefer. Um, so, with that. And, uh, so with that, I'm gonna, we are going to be asking two questions. And the first question, uh, is for Jessica. Why do you want to serve on the Parks and Rec commission, and what do you think would be likely areas of particular focus for you on the commission? Yeah, um... Thanks

[00:14:53] Jessica: for intervening. Um, I'm interested to serve Mountain View and just represent, um, demographic that I feel like is missing from the NRC. North Mountain View, young professionals, people with young children, so I like to be able to contribute in that way. I feel like I can bring data driven, mindset, creative ideas. I'm not afraid of hard work or solving hard problems. That in my day or day. I think my focus areas will be very dependent on what the outcome of the PRC, sorry, the Parks and Rec strategic planned survey. Joe, I think that that's a really key set of data that we'll want to look at that will help to find a lot of the priorities, so focusing in for me on the strategic plan. But I also think that the biodiversity in urban forestry, management plan is really important, as well. They all go hand in hand. So,

[00:16:01] Unknown Speaker: Joe, the same question. Why do you want to continue to serve on the Parks and Rec commission, and what do you think would be likely areas of particular focus for you on the commission?

[00:16:13] Joe: I'm sorry, I mean, you know, first of all, I just, I really enjoy, um, and care about all the topics that sort of fall under the PRC work plan umbrella. I like working with our community and with city staff. And, you know, improving existing programs, and then also, you know, developing new programs for, you know, emersion needs. I think that now as a time in Mountain View, where PRC topics are especially critical. I'm really looking forward to a strategic plan. I think it's a great opportunity to really take a fresh look at how all the PRC is, or urban managed the mountain views, all of these fees. And I think that the plan will hopefully also provide recommendations for increasing parkland. throughout the city, but especially in some of the underserved areas. You know, I've been involved in, you know, a lot of parks and rec areas over the years since I've lived here, and I really look forward to being an active participant in the strategic planning process. I think that, in some ways, the strategic plan is almost gonna be sort of like creating a vision for parts of Rec for the next 10 or 15 years. So that's a pretty important thing to be doing, and it's a great opportunity. I think the biodiversity strategy is going to inform us about ways for preserving our local environment, and for creating habitats, and corridors, that, you know, promote our local ecosystems. And as part of that, you know, I'd look forward to working on strategies for increasing our tree canopy throughout the city. I'm also really excited about sort of the momentum that we have right now with new city parks. Number 45, just opened a couple weeks ago. And so I really would look forward to working on the final stages of parks that are close to completion. And then also, sort of, the initial design stages of parks that aren't properties that were opportunistically acquired, and I thank City Council for doing that. by San Rafel Avenue, Calderon, and Thompson. So, that's your time. Okay. So,

[00:18:30] Unknown Speaker: but you get another opportunity, we do round robin questions, which makes more sense when they're more than two people. But basically, Joe, that means you are the first person on this question. And this question is, what do you think should, uh, tell me what you think should be the priorities for the perks and rec strategy. Strategy.

[00:18:56] Joe Mitchner: Well, I think, um, you know, I think a lot of it is getting feedback from all of the different, um, parts of our community. Like I said, I think it's sort of a vision. And I think it's just this opportunity to take a fresh look at everything that we're doing. I think that there's gonna be data on parks inventory. I think there's gonna be analysis on what's needed, what the costs are. Hopefully, there'll be some funding ideas for acquiring new new parks. You know, depending on the timing and whether counsel is so inclined. Maybe Parkland acquisition could be part of a revenue ballot measure. I think that that's something that would resonate with voters and art in our community. Um, certainly something I could get behind, going door to door, on. Also, it might bring up opportunities for partnerships with outside organizations, like three way agreements, like, with the water district, and the school district, and what we done at McKelby. So there also might be some opportunities for sort of reimagining the uses of the way we use parks now. So maybe there are more efficient ways to use it, and maybe there are ways that we could put new things in new places. You know, as a PRC member, I'd want to really carefully review all the data and feedback receive, because I'd want to make sure that the eventual recommendations are consistent with what we hear from our residents, and also consistent with, you know, sort of what I've seen in the years that, you know, I've lived here for 30 something years, and so I've seen over that time, and also my involvement with Parks and Rec. I also think it's really important that we're mindful that all voices are heard. I think it's always a challenge to do that. Um, I think the city, um, tries real hard, but... there are other ideas I have. I mean, any outreach that we can do is great, and it needs to be done, whether it's the strategic plan or not. I think it's something you need to be committed to all the time. So,

[00:21:07] Member Pat Showalter: Jessica, the same question, which is, what do you think should be the priorities of the partisan recs, your parts, and recs strategy? Yeah,

[00:21:16] Jessica: I think, um, I think there's a lot of aspects that are important to the Parksburg strategy. Looking closely at data analysis of community inputs, the staff inputs, is one of the major first steps, identifying the needs, comparing that, or collecting, and then comparing it with our existing assessments of what we currently are capable of. Looking at, uh, what are the options to leverage our existing capabilities, and to need those needs, and identifying what are potential solution options to meet needs, where we have gaps. It has a really challenging problem to solve, knowing that land use is wax in Mountain View, and land is expensive. So how can we find strategies to fund, whether it's land acquisition, or new reparation programs, in the city, whether it's a bond measure, or through third parties, or fundraising in other ways? It's gonna be an area where we need to piece different puzzle pieces together, come up with a holistic plan. I don't think that we can solve all of our issues with this, so the strategic plan will need to be realistic. I think we also want to strive for doing a really good job with it, and, um, not shying away from hard problems. There are a lot of opportunities and smart people, and, um, place in Mountain View that we should leverage to be able to do that. Most importantly, I think we can develop a plan. We have to execute on it. This plan needs to be something that... is measurable, is actionable, and... can be, um... monitored and achieved after it's pulling place, not just a plan that is a paper, but something that we have an action plan to achieve. Okay,

[00:23:27] Member Pat Showalter: you finished right on the zero. Um, so do committee members have follow up questions or questions of clarification? And, by the way, are not allowed to ask you new questions? Wow. Okay. Very Okay. Um, so, you now, like I said, you can hang around, or you can, um, wait for him later, whichever you... You're

[00:24:00] Member Alison Hicks: gonna do all the interviews before we make the recommendations. Do you want us to tell you? Tell you...

[00:24:06] Joe Mitchner: What's our choice? No, which are, no, no. No. So I probably would just go for the email.

[00:24:12] Member Pat Showalter: Oh, yeah, I see. No, you don't have to tell us. You can go do whatever you want. Email

[00:24:17] Joe Mitchner: her, regardless, or something.

[00:24:18] Member Pat Showalter: We will email you even if you stick around, yes. So thank you for... Thanks for... Thank you very much.

[00:24:25] Joe Mitchner: Thanks for regarding it. Thank you. Do

[00:24:35] Member Alison Hicks: you happen, um, to have available the, uh, the residents of the applicants or the... Here's

[00:24:44] Member Pat Showalter: a bunch of things. I'm really curious about... I

[00:24:48] Member Alison Hicks: may ask later. You mean their actresses?

[00:24:50] Unknown Speaker: What happened on the app, like, these things? Sorry,

[00:24:53] Member Alison Hicks: I should be clear of all of the arts and rec commissioners. I'm curious to know where they live. You don't have that, that's okay.

[00:25:00] Member Pat Showalter: Not... Not... Not... Something. Maybe an item made, or whatever it is, we can talk about things that we could improve. Well,

[00:25:08] Unknown Speaker: I think we put their addresses down there. Nope.

[00:25:12] Cool Deep: Man, the address is, but we don't have the neighborhoods. Wait,

[00:25:15] Unknown Speaker: what their address is on the entrance? Okay. Okay. Well,

[00:25:19] Member Lucas Ramirez: if it's okay. Yeah. Okay, yes, thank you. Joe Mitchner lives in...

[00:25:27] Member Alison Hicks: I know where each of them live, but I don't know where the other parks and rec commissioners live. Oh, okay. May ask a question.

[00:25:33] Member Lucas Ramirez: Where did Jessica live? She

[00:25:34] Member Alison Hicks: lives in Mauna. Oh,

[00:25:36] Member Lucas Ramirez: okay. And Joe Kitchener lives in Holm Mountain here? No,

[00:25:39] Member Alison Hicks: he lives near, uh, Evan Duggan, and, um... Oh, okay. Yeah. Hi.

[00:25:46] Emil: Hello. Hello. Hi. Oh, nice meeting you.

[00:25:52] Member Pat Showalter: Hi, welcome. Thank you. Sorry, this is a different room than we're used to, so, in some ways, it's nice, 'cause it's a little more intimate, but you haven't been able to listen to the other interviews. So the way this is going to go is, I'm going to ask, uh, three questions. You have two minutes apiece, to answer them, and it's supposed to be in what's called Round Robin, which just, basically, now means, I will not. If I call you first, the first time, you will not. be called first. Then after that, um, we are going to interview all the Africans before we discuss who should be, you know, our choices and so forth. Now, this is a public meeting. So you can hang around and watch all of that, if you want, or, frankly, what most people choose is to... go home and get an email later. Yeah. So, that's what we're going to be doing. And so, we will start now. First question, and do tell me if I'm mispronouncing your name. Uh, Emil? Yep. Okay. did well. Um, so the first question is, why do you want to serve on the bicycle pedestrian advisory committee, and what do you think would be likely areas of particular focus are you on the committee?

[00:27:18] Emil: Oh. Why do I want to serve on the committee in...? Oh. Gotcha. Um, I think I'd be a good choice. for the B practice, 'cause I'm new here. I came from Boston, which is, like, much more of a condensed city. So I'm used to that kind of life. And once I moved here, I have my car, but I rarely ever use it. Maybe once a week to go hiking in a partisan, so I'm biking everywhere. So I'm getting a lay of the land. So I think I'd be a pretty good candidate at really adopting, truly adopting, like, an active lifestyle, or, like, a more pedestrian focused, even, even travel dollars, even take an owl train. Um, stuff like that. I think I have, um, building up the experience, and I think I can offer a lot in that aspect, um, and then what I could focus on. Um, so, I have a computer science background. Um, so maybe I know you guys have, like, data portals and stuff open like that. So if I could look at that kind of stuff, I think that would be, um, very interesting, um, to look at. And I've been attending BMA meetings and things like that. So you're getting a lay of, like, the scene and how things work. So, I think I focused on that. Okay. Thank you.

[00:28:48] Member Pat Showalter: 33 seconds, if you want to add one more comment, but otherwise, feel free to go under, everyone, if you'd like. No pressure. So a lot of, uh, the question, again, is, why, in your case, why do you want to continue to serve on B pack? And what do you think would be likely areas of particular focus for you on the committee? Yeah. So, um,

[00:29:11] Lyle: the first term has been great. I've learned a lot, and, um, in part, I would like to continue just because when I first joined the committee, I did not really know what being on a committee entails, and I'm still learning, but I do know a lot more now, and I think I could be even more useful in another term. I walk and bike all over the place. I also drive, so I kind of, when I'm walking, I'm, you know, thinking about the bikes and cars, and why don't they follow the road more, and, um, yeah, et cetera, and vice versa. Um, so I am very passionate about that. Um, I think if... Even if I don't serve another term, I think one very important part, which might be coming up now, is I've always asked to know the status of projects. So, I think if the city staff starts maintaining a project tracker, it will make being on the beat pack much easier, because I feel like staff holds these cards, which are the improvements that the city can make, and they say, What do you think about this card? And then, we're like, What other cards do you have? And we don't know. And I think, to me, especially important will be implementation. There's so many good things in the pipeline. When I look at the 2015 plan, Very little has been implemented. What has been implemented has been great, and I hope that I can advocate for getting projects done, because there's a lot of very good, um, intent and prioritization, and now I hope it's going to happen. Okay,

[00:31:12] Member Pat Showalter: you got down to the zero, too. Um, you make a little crazy. Yes. I did clients. Now, help me with your name at Siamak?

[00:31:21] Siamak: Siamac, or hey you, I respond to them.

[00:31:24] Member Pat Showalter: I'll use CMAC? Yes, ma'am.

[00:31:26] Siamak: I should have changed it to John Smith years ago. You never got the opportunity. Um, so

[00:31:33] Member Pat Showalter: the question again, see your Mac is... He's okay. I know. Oh, you know it? Okay. Okay, good. Better memory. I've heard it twice. Okay. Why

[00:31:41] Siamak: do I want to join? Number one, I've been BPAC member, not in Mountain View, but in San Jose before. My main passion is safety and training. We have so little of it. And I meet folks that don't appreciate any of it, and I have to be super focused on either not to run them over with my car or not to run them over with my bicycle. So many folks don't know, don't appreciate the highway code, which applies to all of us, drivers and cyclists. And one of my main goals is to become an old cyclist, not a dead one. So I am super focused on safety. Even in spite of the fact that we have challenges on the road, we... drivers. And another thing that I think, last time, somebody, a member of the public suggested, abolish right on turn, right on red. is no need for it. I am both an American and British, and we don't have Right on red. Red, you stop. And then you go, Most people, I think, I understand, it's called the California stuff. have to be super careful. So, anyway, I want to evangelize safety and training. Okay. So question

[00:33:12] Member Pat Showalter: number two. Uh, we're gonna start with you, Lyle, Lyle, this time. What are the most important issues fasting EPAC, and how would you go about resolving them? It actually says, The question says, What are the two most important issues, but I don't want to... Uh... Okay.

[00:33:39] Lyle: I mean, I feel like we're at, um, you know... Okay. I... I can only speak to overall priorities. I think safe routes to school is very important. The city has been making progress, especially improving intersections close to schools. I think that's great. We can continue to encourage that, along with the safety programs at the schools. I think Vision Zero is important. And, I mean, this is more, like, just to say, when I moved to Mountain View, my son was one, when the 2015 plan happened, he started kindergarten. Now he's in high school. I think it's important, like, his whole childhood is going by without, um, many things, like, he won't be here. You'll go off to college before a lot of the improvements are made. And so I think, uh, implementation, uh, and, uh, would be important. I don't know how BPAC can help with that, but as far as it can. Yeah, thank you. So,

[00:34:59] Member Pat Showalter: Samak, now it's for you, uh, this, it says, What are the two most important issues facing BPAC and how would you resolve them? You can do one, you can do three. I don't care.

[00:35:12] Siamak: I have attended two meetings so far. Quite interesting. So I don't know precisely the two most important issues, but one, first time I attended a second time, I was thinking, things do take a long time. But then having thought about it, I'm so happy, it says that things don't happen instant, because there are measured approaches. But the specific stuff that has been going on is the comprehensive transport, um, policy that's been worked on. That is very interesting, more research is required so that there is information

[00:35:58] Emil: collection. I

[00:36:00] Siamak: enjoyed your report last time from your act, too. Now, how would I resolve them? I haven't had enough focus on it. I can resolve my stuff at work, but I cannot tell you, if I did, I'll just make it up. I'm not into making things up. But ask me after I've had a few more meetings, then I'll be able to write back.. Okay,

[00:36:27] Member Pat Showalter: thank you. Thank you. Um, I don't want your 45 seconds, I suppose. I yield. Okay. Okay, so, Emil, do you need the question? It is, uh, two more or less important issues facing BPAC and how you would resolve them. Well,

[00:36:49] Emil: I have two important issues. I think, um, two big issues are a lack of coordination, I think, between other agencies. Other committees within our city and other agencies outside of the city to get ideas. I think, like, an example of a good coordination was, I think, our El Camino Royale project, where we, I mean, ETA, was proposing, basically, repaving this project, and then we took advantage of that, and we were able to put bike lanes and stuff like that, coordination between other agencies, and other committees, like, there's, I think, there's, like, a Grey Star project. The Chase Bank, and as part of that, they are putting a whole bunch of, like, bike lanes and stuff, and improving that area. I think being aware of all these other, in the city, and being able to tack on physical pedestrian improvements. I think we could probably do a better job. Yeah, of understanding all that. And I think another big component is truly focusing on all ages and all abilities, hiking in pedestrian infrastructure. Like, I want to be able to, whenever I have kids, I want them to be able to go to piano lessons, go to the gym. go to school completely on their own, unsupervised. They might be selfish, but I want my time back. I do not want to have to drive them, babysit them. all the time, right? I don't want to be their chauffeur. I want them to be able to be repented. And focusing on being able to get children comfortable being alone on bike paths. I think that's a huge, huge issue, and I think we can improve it there. Thank you. And

[00:38:38] Siamaki: I like them to be safe. Yep. Okay,

[00:38:41] Unknown Speaker: so, the last question, and Siamaki, of course, you're first this time. What do you think should be? The same question. We can get it out if you want. We didn't do a good job. Do you want to cut it out? Oh, uh... Well, it's good random. Uh, a random question. You know how I can do that? So the third question is, what do you think should be the priorities for the kid? Which is the same, I think, as important issues? And

[00:39:10] Siamaki: there was an assertion that you wanted to know us better. I mean, we know Emil. He was from Boston. He's just come over. No one asked me who the hell I am. Okay.

[00:39:20] Unknown Speaker: I'll give you, I'll give you each 30 seconds to tell, uh, tell us, personally, something about something we should know about you. relevant, or irrelevant. My

[00:39:33] Siamaki: name is... I am of Persian heritage. My parents sent me to England when I was 16. I suppose it was less dramatic than drowning me, because I was a mischievous kid. So, I lived, I went to university, electronics instrumentation and control for 21 years. I was an avid cyclist, then, and then I decided that I had enough of rain in miserable weathers. So did my wife. So we came over to the only place that counts, Northern California. And it's fantastic. Um, Sunny, um... So, and then I've been here, actually, about 27 years. Okay. So, above the area, mountain views, well. Okay, good. Yeah.

[00:40:27] Unknown Speaker: We know you're from Boston. Tell us something else about yourself that might be relevant, irrelevant. Uh... let's see.

[00:40:36] Emil: Actually, relatively new to Viking. So, yeah, before I was in Austin, um, get around everywhere. I had a car, but I literally only used it for hiking. was trying to replicate that here. I actually specifically picked Mountain View because of how close everything was, and, like, it's fairly flat. So I was like, this is a great city to just start on about fucking, and, like, using it as, like, a vehicle replacement. So, yeah. So that's exactly why I picked this city. It was either this or Palo Alto, but... You think, well. Okay.

[00:41:19] Unknown Speaker: So now, Lotta, tell us something about you that may or may not be relevant.

[00:41:24] Lotta: Uh, yeah, so I really enjoy participating in the Facebook Buy Nothing group, and I offer to deliver the items instead of having people pick up, so I have an excuse to walk or bike, and that way, you get more familiar with at least part of the city. Um, earlier in the day, took Caltrain, and I get very excited. My friend was flying out of SFO, so he said we could meet in Burlingame 'cause it's close. And I'm so excited when I can actually use public transit. And it's convenient. Okay. Thank you, sir. But yours also

[00:42:01] Siamaki: has an infectious smile. Ah,

[00:42:04] Unknown Speaker: okay. Good point. Okay, so I think I've told you what's next. We will interview the rest. Thank you so much for... Thank you. Yes ma'am. I'm not kicking you out. You can hang around. In public place. Thank you for applying. Enjoy your time. It's always nice talking to you so much. Good to meet you. Ple to meet you. Either way. Nice to meet you. Yes. Cheers, Bono. I'd

[00:42:32] Unknown Speaker: like that as a standing question. Tell us something relevant or irrelevant about yourself. Yeah,

[00:42:37] Unknown Speaker: I like that. That's a good one. I can't believe we left two almost identical questions. We

[00:42:44] Unknown Speaker: went through him hastily. It was one. Okay. Yep. I mean, the voters should recall us, but... Brian

[00:42:57] Member Pat Showalter: here? Yes, because, right... Toast.

[00:43:04] Unknown Speaker: Hi. Hi. Welcome. Thank you. So, um... We want to get to know you more. I, um, uh, I I feel fairly confident that you'll be appointed, but, um... And, uh, so what we're going to do here, we're going to, uh, ask you one question. You will have two minutes to answer, and, um, then the other committee members may ask follow up questions, if they have them. of clarification. And then afterwards, this is a public meeting, you can stick around. But we're gonna interview everyone else, uh, before we have the discussion to make decisions, so most people, frankly, go home and get an emails at some later point. So, with that, um, Ryan, the question, oh, and the timer is up there, if you want to look at it, but you don't have to. The question is, why do you want to serve on the senior advisory committee, and what do you think would be likely areas of particular focus for you on the committee? All right.

[00:44:17] Ryan: Um, well, I'm looking for something to do. I was a senior, uh, partner at a big law firm, at law. I started my own firm, and when I turned 65, I'm 68 right now, I semi retired from it, and I'm looking to be on a board or something like that, something... Maybe back to... I'm on the HOA board, my condo development, um, I actually go to a senior orchestra every Wednesday at the senior center. And I see people just hanging out, playing pool, same people playing ping pong. It's not that vibrant. There are some classes that are pretty impressive. But I don't see much enthusiasm, and there's, like, there's a million people, you know, in the area, and there's only, you know, a few people that go to the senior center. And my mother, she's a senior in Princeton, New Jersey. Her senior center is really a vibrant. They have speakers. You know, they talk about art, and, uh, it's more intelligent, more intellectual. So, I'd like to see a little more vibrant. I checked it out. They have movie night, which is nice. And they've got lots of programs. But, you know, I just feel like seniors can do a little more. As a senior, I see, it's kind of tough to find things to do. I'm busy. I'm busy in music and golf and all that stuff. But I see these people, they've got basically not much to do. So, I'd like to somehow get the word out, um, that the senior center is, like, a fun place, and I'd like to see the seniors get together more. I don't see any, like, build social programs there. And I haven't put much time into it, other than to observe it, America, like that. So, I would just like to, uh, you know, make it more fun, and somehow get the word out, I don't know how. But, you know, get it out, maybe help them drive, maybe help them. My ways to get around, get them more activities, get them out, get a bus, go somewhere, go see a play. Hey,

[00:46:35] Unknown Speaker: so, um, now we can ask follow up questions. Do people have follow up questions? I'm actually curious, where do you live in relation to the senior center? Are you very, like walking distance? Yeah, far away. Yeah. Three

[00:46:49] Ryan: minutes away by car? Dinesquuela. I live, uh, pretty much near, uh, Scuela and El Camino, streets away. It's a nice place. You got a nice room. It's number of rooms. And I could just find out more about it. And if I'm on the board, I'll get more involved. You know? There's a good turnout when we have a concert. Maybe more music events. I think getting people more interested in the place. Uh, pretty good, 'cause there's so many seniors, and there's gonna be more and more, and, uh... I just think that there should be more interest in it. So much more potential. Okay, thank you. Are

[00:47:34] Unknown Speaker: there more questions? No? Okay. Well, thank you so much for applying. I guess we're telling everybody the time requirement, which is four to five hours per month, as needed, after noon meetings on the third Wednesday of each month. But

[00:47:52] Member Pat Showalter: that doesn't include the prep time. There's always a little prep time. Good, good.

[00:47:57] Ryan: Yeah, that'll lead into my senior orchestra time, but that's fine. Okay. Me, Wednesday. Wow. Thank you for applying. Sure.

[00:48:06] Unknown Speaker: Yes, thank you so much.

[00:48:07] Lotta: Thank you. Thank you. Bye.

[00:48:10] Unknown Speaker: Do you happen to know why the incumbent decided not to seek reappointment? Her

[00:48:17] Unknown Speaker: husband became sex? Which Oh, for... Even Gilvix was the income?

[00:48:22] Unknown Speaker: Right. Oh. Yeah, and there was somebody else who was going to apply that I talked to from the library... What had been on the library board, but I get it, she didn't. No. She just spoke to me once. I was at a meeting. She spoke to me. Hey, this

[00:48:40] Unknown Speaker: is the... Barn burner right here. Yeah. Okay. There are three openings, is that right? Mm hmm. Are there? Yeah.

[00:48:54] Member Pat Showalter: And two incumbents. Hello. Hi.

[00:49:03] Unknown Speaker: Hi. You all have name tags? I assume they're on both sides, but I actually have... Yes, they are. Okay. Okay, that's good. Ours are... Ours are one side, did you? Oh, you don't have yours? No, I don't. Okay. I can turn it around. Okay. Is there one other person? You know, when I sent out the email, he never replied where there's gonna be here tonight. Oh, yes. Oh,

[00:49:34] Member Pat Showalter: yes. Yes. Yeah. Okay. Anybody recognize him? Well, the red has happened.

[00:49:41] Unknown Speaker: Do you want to move? Sure.

[00:49:45] Lacey: We'll leave Christian over there, just in case. Yeah,

[00:49:48] Unknown Speaker: it comes falling in last

[00:49:49] Unknown Speaker: minute. Okay, so, uh, the process here, if you haven't overheard it from, uh, well, the other people were interviewing, is that, um, we're gonna ask you, uh, it's going to be three questions. You'll have two minutes for each question. The timer is up here. You don't have to take all the time if you don't want to. Um, and we'll do it in... It's called round robin, which means you won't always have to go. Just a little harder window. And second or third? Also, uh, you are... This is a public meeting. You are allowed to stick around. We will be discussing all of them. They, uh, committees after we finish this interview group. Um, frankly, most people go home and wait for an email. But it is a public meeting, so you can watch us discuss everybody, if you'd like. And, uh, yes, and then, in addition to that, I will read the time. The time requirement is approximately three hours per month. There are evening meetings on the second Wednesday of each month. Well, it's a little prep for the meetings, you know, reviewing packets and so forth. So with that, we will start with the first question, um, and you are Christian Line Cliff, if I mispronounce anyone's name, please. Correct. Um, so, the first question, Cliff, is why do you want to continue to serve on the visual arts committee? And what do you think would be likely areas of particular focus for you on the committee?

[00:51:33] Cliff: So, I joined the School Arts Committee years ago, because I was interested in helping advocate for more participation of physical and creative art. And at that time, I discovered that they were doing, or the visual arts were going to do a new strategy, represented the council. I thought, Oh, great opportunity. Well, so I joined, COVID came up. And then we lost all the sitting staff on the visual arts. Big turnover. We've covered, and we're about ready to present it to you. So I like to kind of continue in order to see that through, also finally get your feedback, see if we're in the right direction, and then build upon it. And it's just a strategy, as the staff says, it's not implementation plans. So that has to be worked out. For sure. But first, we have to get your guidance on me in the right direction or not. The other opportunities... So first is to complete the strategy, built upon it, and do new plans, assume that you're adult on the strategy. The other two areas would be opportunities for the transit center, and the pedestrianization of Castro, in the sense of a palate, in order to introduce new visual arts, activities into the city. I like to be able to participate in those... Thank you. Do you have more to say? Okay. So, um,

[00:53:07] Unknown Speaker: Lacey. See, again, the question is, uh, why do you, in particular, want to serve on the visual arts committee, and what do you think would be likely areas of focus for yourself on the committee, you as an individual? So,

[00:53:25] Lacey: uh, I'm an artist, and I'm passionate about community, and, uh, basically, the way that art can... affect and be a signature sort of identity for a community, and I see Mountain View. I've been here for 24 years. I have a home here, and then I lived outside of the country for three years from 2011, 2014. And throughout that, it was a lot of traveling, and then we drove to Patagonia, we went through all the Americas, and then we settled in Ecuador. And what I learned from that is that, again, your visual experience, along with, like, the size of the city is so impactful on people's life, on people that come in, on your own experience, as a resident, and I have free time now. My son just went away. I'm an artist myself, and I'm asking myself, How can I give back at this point? How can I best serve, and with my skills? And I also have, uh, a lot of friends in this area that have expressed, um, interest in participating even in the committees, and, but a lot of people are so busy, they don't know when they're, like, the meetings, they don't know when they're happening. And so I am very good at networking and reaching out. I also have a lot of friends that are artists. The things I think need to be really focused on in downtown is, you know, the walkable streets, and that transition, a new strategy, and, like, getting the team, you guys already know some of the people on the team that have some great ideas. and then also integrating our community and our diverse community into the plan. Being, like, I have worked with all not all nationalities, but many nationalities, and the way they express themselves through art, via street art, be it textiles, and just kind of bringing that in, so people feel a part of, not just, like, I'm a resident, but seeing that. So... I have two minutes.

[00:55:26] Unknown Speaker: So you'll have other questions. So now, Tani, um, the question is, why do you, as an individual, want to serve on the visual arts committee, and what do you think would be likely areas of particular focus for you on the committee?

[00:55:43] Tani: An interest in becoming part of the committee, because I'm a graphic designer, so I've been living here since 2017, and I always look for ways, too, how I could get involved in the city. I'm constantly volunteering in different events, and I'm also part of the chamber as an ambassador, so I think I could put my skills into, um, practicing whatever the new art could be possible art in the city, like, um, I also, like, an illustrator. So I would like to, you know, kind of put my skills in there in whatever decisions, we make, when choosing the art, or choosing the artists, who are showcasing, and also, um, I have, uh, UXUI decide backgrounds, so I could also, if things become digital, I could also help with, um, that because now with everything that turning from and everything to digital, I'm like, we always have to constantly keep evolving. So, I think I just get put my skills into whatever you need me to, and I will, like, to, um, providing, like, whatever I could help in this, the city, um, since I'm constantly, like, helping out and volunteering. Thank you.

[00:57:19] Member Alison Hicks: And now, too, too. I have a question for you, again, it's, uh, why do you want to continue to serve on the visual arts committee, and what do you think would be likely areas of particular focus for you? Thank you.

[00:57:34] Tutu: Hi. Good evening. Um, well, so, I come from, I worked at a private sector, design development center. My background is Bachelor of Art. I also worked as a art teacher at public school. So, the private sector brought me some experiments in, like, learning cost, timeline management, project management, communication among the team member, and between artists and the committee. So that's that, then the, the, the news part, the public and art teacher part is helps me to have a little bit strengths on the, you know, connecting with it. So, I quite enjoy being the community member. Um, like, a cliff was saying, soon as we got on, the COVID hit. So now we finally got back, the meetings happened your monthly, we finally face to face schedule. We finally get become productive. I feel like we're getting in the zone right now, so I... I want to stay. I enjoy this. Um, my, um, my, um, I guess, one thing I want emphasise, if I continue to be on the board, is, um, connecting to the US community, um, Like, for instance, one of the project upcoming project is the shoreline, the pedestrian bridge. So how do we have some more, like, use input in projects like that? In addition to, or besides, the profession artists. So, that's something I'm passionate about. Thank you.

[00:59:17] Member Alison Hicks: Thank you. So now, uh, the next question, Lacey, will start with you. Um, and the second question is what... Uh, what is your impression of the role of the Mitty itself, the visual arts committee? The Visual Arts Committee is... Basically,

[00:59:42] Lacey: what I've seen, like what they're doing now, is the big exciting part, for me, is the strategy, the new strategy that's developing, but having, um, observe the meetings, a few of them. Also, the performing arts has artists that are represented within the performing arts center. So, choosing those artists, and then choosing art for public spaces, and now moving more into, like, private sector, and maybe discussing and moving in a delicate way to more of the private developments, and having sort of more of a communal aspect, integrated with the private entities, and being strategic about doing that, talking to people, Using funds, you know, just getting people more into the community. And then once you care about something, you take care of it. So that's what I see. And then the downtown, the walkable street that's developing and making that more aesthetic and interesting, bringing in... I don't know if people talked much about the, but I have two kids, and a 21 year old who's an artist. I mean, 23 year old. He has artists that are friends in the community. And then bringing in sort of the youth and the age, not only the cultural diversity, but the age diversity. So they feel represented in this town, and then they can grow in envy proud of it. So... that's kind of without repeating myself, what I'm seeing. And I do, I just think it's such an exciting time. And what, me, as a resident and an artist, and living many places of the world, I feel like it's an integral part time to get involved, because, as we know, it's like open spaces. If you put a park in, the park's gonna stay there. If you build over the park, you're not gonna go back and say, Oh, we should have put in a park. So there's so much transition with this with COVID, and then the changes in the city that I care about it. I live here. Thank you. One second left.

[01:01:40] Member Alison Hicks: Okay, Tani, again, the question is, what's your impression of the role of the committee itself? Visual arts committal?

[01:01:49] Tani: What I have seen so far, how they implemented, um, at least, uh, when I've been to the performing arts, and I see the arts public, there, I'm, like, surprised, oh, who is behind the scenes on all of this, and how they make those decisions? And also, I started seeing that there was more artistic needs, I read rock cafés. So, they are kind of making, like, the artists come together in the city, so I got an interest to be part of it, because I would like to just see how the behind the scenes of all of the work, and just how we can bring more people together in the arts, since it's so important, uh, different backgrounds, uh, also, different people of different ages could come together because of art, so I always thought, oh, how important the arts is, and that's how I decided to be in the art and artistic field, because I feel that it's the only way to kind of, how we can communicate with others without knowing, because we all have differences, but then art can bring us together. So I thought, oh, how important role it would be to be part of it. So, I think company is already doing a good job into that, so...

[01:03:19] Member Alison Hicks: And now, uh, this is an easy question for incumbents, but, uh, tutu. What's your impression of the role of the visual arts committee? Hmm.

[01:03:31] Tutu: Um, so visual art is, uh... I got visible evidence of a shared humanity. So, Mountain View being such a diversified hub? Um, I feel like, um, we just give people a vision of the opportunity, and I'm giving something enjoyable to, um, talk about. Um, or so, I have my don't look here. And the public art, to invite the audience to enjoy their city, just a little bit more. I feel a little bit more belong, so, other than doing the boring bodies, though. So that's how I feel about the role. Okay.

[01:04:12] Member Alison Hicks: Yeah, that's it. Is that it? Okay, and Cliff. So... your impression of the vote. Roll of the Befort Committee.

[01:04:19] Cliff: So what I saw when we first, when I first started, is that the visual arts activities were at all. Secondary thought. And what we learned is, what I've learned is that we need to make is our view, the activities that we do, especially because there's a lot of these different parts. We needed to view the park as a visual statement. And so we changed our process to bring to us. What is the park design that's gonna be made? Especially the play equipment. If you look at wine dot. You look at pyramid. You look at Fayette Park. Look at the more apartment, beautiful playground equipment that's being introduced. Fantastic, colorful. We never see it. It was a surprise each time the way I go out to it. So we've been trying to bring into us information about what's design, what the play equipment's going to be, so we can know about it, and we can share it with the artists. So they know what the pieces are, that they're gonna create, what it's gonna fit into. So we're trying to create, more of a overall perspective of what the visual statement we're making, 'cause the park's a visual statement. It's not just one piece. So we're trying to kind of expand our... I am trying to expand our thinking around making a visual statement here. Peace, but the, the park is a play equipment. This, it will save it unto itself, and the play equipment is a visual statement. We need to bring that into our thinking process as well. So I'm trying to get us to expand our definition from where I began, which was, let's select these nice little chickens, piece to, what is the, what's the environment that they fit into? And so it's also then when we come to open up the park, it's not a surprise. Oh, this is the visual statement that we made for the city. And that, that, the thinking, may enable us to look at in the pedestrianization of Castle Street, the visual aspects of that hour, and especially the transit center, will become a major statement about it, um, mountain game, and take it in more locals for people. So that's what I kept ordered. So I think we evolve. Good timing.

[01:06:53] Member Alison Hicks: Okay, so this will be the last question. And, honey, you will be answering it first. Um, and it is... So, the, the Visual Arts Committee is working on a public arts strategy. What is important in the coming few years, uh, and... I guess I'm asking, just what is gonna be important in that, uh, in the public arts strategy and over the coming few years?

[01:07:23] Tani: I think what we have to think about it, what the future holds, right? So now with everything, how everything is changing and evolving to digital, in a way, or with AI and everything, we can also have to evolve. So, uh, I feel that, uh, we can give, um, we can kind of, like, have a specific one just for, like, artists that do a lot of, um, things in print, but also given opportunities to people that do things in digital, since we live in Silicon Valley. Um, I think kind of having a mix of those things and kind of work with different type of artists and only um, illustrators and things, but also industrial designers, maybe, or um, architects or someone who builds things. Those things could work, um, together, maybe the future, we can implement different type of ours, not just one type of art, um, things that we can keep evolving, see what the around city needs, and what the people in the EDR are, their skills to, seeing what they, what they, uh, can, um, provide still, because so many people think are, is just one thing, but it could be multiple things, and it can be developed. in many ways, and how people express themselves. So, yes, we could do a lot of things, but open diverse opportunities for diverse deep types of art throughout the city. Thank you.

[01:09:14] Member Alison Hicks: So, Chutu, it's your turn, and the question is, what's important in the coming few years, and what's important in the public arts strategy? Okay, I'm right.

[01:09:31] Tutu: Um, I think I have three points. Um, but these are, the first one is include, is that the right way to say inclusion? Like, it included everyone, include the people from all ethnicity, all background, all interests, that's, like, one of the top things. So, for instance, when we were eating the art. I think it's the tennis building for Rensdorf building. So we choose the what art, we've agreed on is the, say, that the, say, that looks like indulgence people. That's, for instance. And the 2nd is environmentally friendly. So we want to promote environment, environmentally friendly material, environmentally, friendly concepts. My 3rd one is the historical value of mountain view. So, when you have, like, competing artists, um, competing, um, for your jury, um, we typically would say, hey, this one seems, like, more connecting to our mountain view historical routes. So that's something we might, you know, when all things are equal. We might promote that. That's my. Yeah. Thank you very much.

[01:10:48] Member Alison Hicks: So, um, so, Cliff, you address this, actually. But I'll give you a second opportunity. What's important in the coming few years? What's important in the public arts strategy?

[01:11:00] Cliff: Well, how money? So, the question, I'll come to council is... Are you willing to? Just kidding. Fun, more jewelers. Um, and make Mountain View equivalent to Sunnyvale. Look at Sunnyvale's art... It is very, very mature. It's really thought out, but they also have a funding mechanism to support it. And that's going to... That's gonna be the question for you guys. is, um, you want to increase the amount of activities, that he focuses on visual arts or not. And do that, you need to have money. The city needs to have money to do it. I want to pay artists, want to pay staff, or staff. It's really great. Uh, they're not visually, uh, tuned. That's not their skill set. So, and you need an advocate for visual arts in the city to work across... Yeah, that skills set, but that takes funding. The other thing is, we need to include more activities for the residents, get involved, and to express visual arts, and be able to state, have opportunities, in part of Iraq, our rec department, to create art. We need to create that environment of not only receiving art from artists, but the residents have an opportunity to express themselves for art. We need to have activities much more unprinted city. It makes it possible to create art, in parks, in events. We had that a little bit in wine festival where we had the folks, we have an opportunity for kids to come up and paint. Is that correct? Which is wonderful. that, so that the... all the residents have the permission to create art in their environment. Thank you.

[01:13:05] Member Alison Hicks: Now, whether your time is up or not, 'cause the timer just stopped, and then the timer, and then it went,

[01:13:10] Member Alison Hicks: Okay, so, Lacey, I think you have the last word here. The question again is, what's important in the coming few years, and, or what is important in the public arts strategy. So I just want to

[01:13:24] Lacey: really, um, bounce off what was stated about creating a local space for artists. And that's been, like, a discussion that's come around with our... have a... We have a really large community in downtown Mountain View that gets together, and they're mostly tech people, but they have a huge aesthetic interest in the city, and they aren't the people that are living here to make money and leave. They want to be here. They want to love their city. And the biggest thing they've said to me, and, I mean, together is, like, we need a space. We need a space where we are coming together in community as, and to express ourselves in art, not that we're even artists, and just because it's important for balance in a human, we have, like, a pretty big imbalance in the front bing brain here, which, you know, it happens. It's great. It brings success, money, blah, blah, blah, but there's, like, a lacking in a void. So that's been big, and making downtown a great space for art, which would include a space, improving the art scene. A lot of people, we've seen this, I'm sure you guys have seen this. You come into a city, there's an area that's a dilapidated, nobody wants to be there. The artists move in, they make it super interesting. Then other people move in, artists can't afford, they have to leave. So how can we, how can we keep that? Like, bring more balance. So, and then include, like, when the money comes up, maybe be strategic and bring in the discussion of, like, how we can bring heart into, like, more of the public development, that would be a lot of conversations, networking, whatever, and discussions with, like, people that are my friend, not just my friends, but in the community, that have resources, that want to give back, but they're busy. So we reach out as networkers and say, Hey, you know, here's an opportunity, bringing attention, 'cause they don't just don't have the time. Um, and then really acknowledging the diversity as, uh, in reflecting that diversity through art in Mountain View, inclusivity. Huge. And, um, I've done a lot of work in that in the world. where I've lived, I think, and I've seen it. People don't feel seen, and if you just bring in their culture or a representation, it has huge, it has, it's, uh, people identify with art as a cultural. And so I, for me, I'm really passionate about that. It's, like, walk your talk kind of thing, and people, I think we all want to feel apart, part of something, part of where we live, so... Okay,

[01:15:52] Unknown Speaker: your time may or may not be up. Okay. I guess. It is up. Okay. Okay, so, again, thank you so much for coming. We do have our, um, other committee members come ask questions of clarity, if they would like. No, okay, I guess you answered all our questions. I just want to echo your legs.

[01:16:14] Member Pat Showalter: Thanks for plugging you guys. Thank you. This process.

[01:16:17] Unknown Speaker: Thank you for waving out... This is not our usual space. I apologize. We usually have cheers for you. Have fun chatting outside. You had a good time. Okay, I'm glad. Not around? Okay. Okay, so, um, this is the public place you can hang around, but we will just be discussing all the other committees first. Most people go home and get an email. Whether you hang around or not, we will email you. Thank

[01:16:41] Lacey: you, yeah. Thank you. Thank you all for your service, too. Appreciate it. Okay. Hey.

[01:17:08] Unknown Speaker: All right. So, first, we start with the library. Um, I move with...

[01:17:18] Unknown Speaker: Second. Okay, all those in favor. Okay. All right. That's done. So, now we move on to Parks and Rec, um... we can, uh, discuss and then make a motion and approve someone. This is... let me just make sure I'm clear. It's one position open. That's correct.

[01:17:43] Member Pat Showalter: I just want to make a statement, is that my philosophy is, generally, you should bring a point incumbents, unless there's a specific reason why not to. And so, I'm just very kind of incumbentcentric.

[01:18:01] Unknown Speaker: I generally share that philosophy. I can't recall a time. I voted against an incumbent, a file serving, um, on the car, or when making appointments to the rental housing committee, or... public safety... I can recall the

[01:18:20] Member Pat Showalter: time when I didn't, but, yeah, I can't recall the time when you didn't. Generally

[01:18:23] Unknown Speaker: speaking, you know, I adhere pretty rigidly to that philosophy, and in this case, I think Joe Kitchener has done good jobs serving into this capacity. Having said that, I think Jessica would be a good addition to the Parks and Rec Commission. And my regret is that the recommendation that I think you had provided Pat, neons ago, about allowing for the possibility of alternates, has yet to come to the council. And I know that's not a city clerk issue that said somewhere else. Um, but, um, I think that that would be, you know, an opportunity for, um, those who have repeatedly, uh, in many cases, expressed interest in serving and who I don't want to lose, because I think we have a lot of talented Mountain View that we're just not able to retain.

[01:19:08] Member Pat Showalter: Right. And in this case, too, with, you know, we're having this park strategy, and there's an advisory board working on the strategy. That's not necessarily exactly the same as the parks and rec board. I would hope that she would... Sounds like she's active in it, I would hope she would remain active. That's

[01:19:27] Unknown Speaker: a good point. I mean, I have to say this, I generally agree with what the two of you are saying, um, I... I guess I draw the line when somebody is not attending a lot... Oh, yeah. Or if they're not prepared for meetings, if they're... That's a good reason not to. But Joe, you know, I don't think he falls in that category. He attended 100%, and I have not heard. And people do complain to me, sometimes about something. But not about Joe has not been complained about. I feel a little bad because I do feel like the mona loma neighborhood, and maybe you asked about, is this the one where you asked what neighborhood everyone's in? You know, the Mauna Loma neighborhood. I feel like it would be good for them to have some representation. I give people a little more weight if they've applied twice and Jessica has applied, and they're good. So I feel I am leaning towards Joe, but I... This is one where I don't... I don't... This committee, I don't... I vote, but I don't always feel good about my votes. This is one I don't feel 100% good about, but I, um, would, uh... Yeah. I leaning towards you. Okay. So,

[01:20:36] Member Pat Showalter: I nominate Job?

[01:20:38] Member Pat Showalter: Second motion. Those in favor? This

[01:20:42] Unknown Speaker: is my least favorite committee for that reason. I hate picking between good people. Oh,

[01:20:47] Unknown Speaker: I can make some of the rest of them. Okay. Now we're on the pack. Um, and this is remind me how many... There's one opening. One opening. Okay. So, I... Maybe I'll start. Uh... So I would actually like to vote for all of them. Again? Yeah, they're over here. Um, I have to say, I lean towards a lot of her two reasons. One is, she's the incumbent. We talked about that. And the second is, I have to say, she is one of the few people who talks in a little bit more detail about pedestrians, whereas most other people come in as bike champs. And I feel like it's as if we have a parks and rec commission where everybody is a neighbor tennis player or something, and nobody does the other things that the committee covers. So, although they did all speak to it. to some degree. But that's the other reason that I lean towards her, and that's my take on it. Yeah,

[01:21:56] Member Pat Showalter: I feel the same way. I'd like to appoint all of them. In this group, I mean, I think they all would bring different things, but, um, like, you know, like Emil, he was saying, Well, I'm new to the area, and I've explored everything on a bicycle, and, I mean, I think that kind of mindset of being willing to put yourself out and do that. That's really, that's really admirable. And it's so appropriate for bikes, and, um, for the repact, but at the same, and, and see a mark. I mean, he has biked in various countries. He was on the San Jose VPAC. I mean, I think he represents older, older, demographic, and I think it's really important. You know, there are a lot of people who are older that are biking because it's flat here. You can still bite. So, but I'm with you. I think we should go with the incumbent, and, and again, there's no... There's no alternate... Yeah. I

[01:23:01] Unknown Speaker: mean, I... something maybe in our item, mate, or whatever it is on this agenda, but, um, uh, the other thing, I thought the point you brought up, Pat was good, that this is... I'm stretching it a little here. But because active transportation, I think, intersects with our perk strategy, um, in that a lot of people are asking for, um, you know, paths to, a lot of people are, uh, acknowledging that walking and biking is, are two of the sports that people undertake, are hiking and hiking, and they want paths that lead to the parks, tree lined paths or bike paths. Possibly, the people that we don't put on beepack, maybe we could suggest that be might want to be on the park's advisory. Maybe they don't see the connection and they don't want to. But we might be able to suggest that. Is there room on that? I don't know. No, I

[01:24:01] Member Pat Showalter: had my... Do not think there is. I had my briefing, but I... I didn't ask. They were unclear about how many people were... They were gonna welcome on that committee. Is that...? It's got to be... And whether or not there were gonna be public meetings.

[01:24:15] Unknown Speaker: The city clerk's office, are you aware of this committee? Oh, so this... I suspect it may not be Brown acted, then. It may just be, like, an... ad hoc. Yeah.

[01:24:28] Unknown Speaker: If I may, so a legislative body, or what you might call a brown act body, is anything that the council creates, either by motion, ordinance, resolution, what have you. So if it's something that stack is creating, then it would not be a brown act or a legislative body, that doesn't preclude the fact that they could be public meetings. It's just that they don't have to adhere to the same. I thought the group was

[01:24:59] Unknown Speaker: not yet formed, but I might be... It isn't it

[01:25:02] Member Pat Showalter: isn't yet formed. But they had a list of, you know, of who they, what kind of representatives they want. And there were a whole bunch of organizations, for instance, that they wanted to be on it. And, um, uh, I'm not sure that any of these people representing those organizations. Well, I guess he, I mean, almost NPCSP. Yeah,

[01:25:23] Unknown Speaker: a different reading from what I got, 'cause you're sharing information I'm not familiar with. Okay. I should probably reach out to John. Apparently,

[01:25:31] Unknown Speaker: she asks different questions. Yeah, maybe. Because I didn't get this information. She...

[01:25:36] Member Pat Showalter: Well, also, I did a lot of stakeholders stuff. So, you know, putting together stakeholder groups. That's something I care about, and I ask a lot of questions about. Mm hmm. And, yeah, it's a good set of questions. Oh, but I... Like, yesterday, I was having a meeting with somebody about Gatekeeper, and we were saying, Well, it's too bad you didn't ask Lucas, 'cause I'm sure if he'd had this briefing, he would know the answer to that. Oh, I went over my head. So... Okay.

[01:25:59] Unknown Speaker: Well, I just thought we might, we might suggest to the people doing it together. Yeah. That they might be interested, anyway. Yeah. That's a good tangent..

[01:26:09] Member Pat Showalter: Okay, so downtown committee. Oh, uh... Nobody showed up. Back, we still have to make the appointment. Oh, I'd Friday. Oh, we haven't voted. Okay, so, um, uh... I moved to... recommend

[01:26:21] Unknown Speaker: the incumbent... Second. All those in favor? Yes, there's no one for the downtown committee. So now we move... Like to make a motion? Yeah,

[01:26:33] Unknown Speaker: two... So we still need a recommendation from this body to appoint Jamil. Should he actually be reelected to his position? I

[01:26:44] Unknown Speaker: have a question about that. Our policy requires us to interview. Um, is that different? I

[01:26:51] Unknown Speaker: think they interviewed once. Oh, right. They don't have to. And

[01:26:56] Unknown Speaker: did he know that? Is that why he didn't come? Oh, that

[01:26:58] Unknown Speaker: I don't know. I think he knows that. Okay. This usually goes everywhere. But I don't want to assume anything.

[01:27:06] Unknown Speaker: It may have been it. Um, but, yeah, you you actually changed your policy to say that they have to have been interviewed at least once.

[01:27:14] Unknown Speaker: Okay, so I forgotten about that.

[01:27:16] Member Pat Showalter: Okay. All right, so I move appointment of, um, Jamil... if he... his election.

[01:27:22] Member Pat Showalter: Second. All goes in the paper? Okay.

[01:27:27] Unknown Speaker: Now, we move on to the senior advisory committee. Mm hmm. Um, discussion or motion about Brian? You know, once

[01:27:38] Member Pat Showalter: he got started talking. I thought he had some pretty good ideas. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Okay, I mean, Brian, I I hope he will be able to recruit some other people.

[01:27:50] Member Pat Showalter: Second. That was... Do a favor? Is he the only person on

[01:27:54] Unknown Speaker: the committee? To which to which term? There's a... Old term. Old term. Okay, thank you. A partial term. Yeah, that would be cruel. We'll try you out. Oh, my God. Okay, so now we have... Uh, official arts committee. And again, let me check in, this is three positions. That's correct. Okay. And so, I'm gonna start off my comment by saying, I have been receiving complaints from, so, I'm gonna contradict what, or, going against what we said earlier, I have been receiving complaints from committee members on the Visual Arts Committee that, uh, that one of the people, one of the incumbents that Tutu has not been reading her, that she misses some good, some amount of meetings, and that she also is not prepared. She's looking through her, she's not reading her materials ahead of time. So there, I have had multiple people express concerns about her, which is why I did some outreach for other, frankly. That's my state, Mom.

[01:29:03] Unknown Speaker: Fair enough. Um, I can't say I have independently corroborated... those complaints. And I have a relative who sears on the... Yeah. Um, who tells me a lot. Um, so I'm... I don't... I don't have that hesitation, but that's mostly because I haven't heard anything. I also haven't been watching the meeting. I'm curious to understand, you... I don't really know all of the material being presented to the visual arts committee regularly. I can't imagine that it's the same, you know, technical caliber of the kind of material that we review. And she could still have good insight and input, even if maybe she hasn't read everything cover to cover.

[01:29:53] Unknown Speaker: The comments that I've gotten are that not only does she not read it, but she doesn't make many comments, and she just often votes along with whatever the last person said. There's... Committing members have expressed a level of, like, very strong discomfort. The lack of, um, of really engaging, in any way, with the material, either reading or having... You can, I suppose, if you're very steeped in the information. You can make comments, even if you're looking over it for the first time at a meeting, but people thought it was to the extent that, um, to the extent that it wasn't really giving the artists a fair chance, because it was pretty, you know, on the fly, and the artists have put a lot of work into it. So there was a certain level of... complained to me, there was a certain level of distress about it.

[01:30:57] Unknown Speaker: So, I, let me mold this over. There are two easy choices for me. One is Cliff, and the other is Lacey. I'm happy to move that Cliff B. reappointed, and that Lacy B. appointed to one of the terms. And then we could deliberate. The

[01:31:13] Unknown Speaker: other two. Okay. I would second that. Okay. Who's in favor? Okay, so what are the merits of, um, honey versus tutu? Well,

[01:31:30] Member Pat Showalter: I think that, um, they both represent, uh, demographics in our community that, um... English is not their first language for mobile, and, uh, to represents the Asian community. Connie represents the Hispanic community, and the truth is, we'd like both of those communities to be very involved. But, um, Tutu and her husband were very active politically. Um, in the, uh, you know, when we had the cannabis discussion, and, um, they, uh, they were very active on WhatsApp in the, in the Chinese community. And, uh, so, I am concerned about how not really approaching her will be weird and the Asian part of her. What, I have to say, I had experience where I used people from the, um, visual arts community as judges for a neighborhood association, um, art on a test we had during COVID, and she didn't keep up her part of the deal, and everybody was like, Oh, yeah, she won't do it. You know, I mean, when it came time to kind of button up and make decisions, they were like, No, no, no, we shouldn't wait for her. She won't show up. So, I did also hear, you know, that she said, No, before, um, really, uh, following 301 obligations. But I haven't heard that, you know, her attendance at meetings is pretty good. She shows up. So...

[01:33:34] Unknown Speaker: Well, it's the lowest of everybody. It is not dismal, but it's the lowest of everybody.

[01:33:41] Unknown Speaker: Well, between Cliff, right? Oh,

[01:33:43] Unknown Speaker: is the cliff set? No,

[01:33:44] Unknown Speaker: no, no, no. Of, there were only two incumbents for this body. Oh,

[01:33:50] Member Alison Hicks: I mean, of all the... The incumbents... Of all the incumbents for anything.

[01:33:54] Member Lucas Ramirez: We reappointed Don white bread, who I strongly supported, who had an even lower attendance. Oh, yeah. This was in, like, the mid '70s.

[01:34:02] Member Alison Hicks: No, I mean, right now. Right. in this round. But

[01:34:04] Member Lucas Ramirez: I... No, it's

[01:34:06] Member Alison Hicks: not terribly loud. Yeah.

[01:34:07] Member Lucas Ramirez: I couldn't use that as an argument to remove her or to not reappoint her. It was not low enough to be alarming. Well,

[01:34:16] Member Alison Hicks: that's why I was... I mean, it's really more the following through that you were talking about engaging with anything at all, so I tend to... I think I would rather give Tani a chance than continue with someone who I've heard is not really, um... It's not engaging with material, although her answers were not terrible, I would say. good. I

[01:34:43] Member Lucas Ramirez: was hoping for more from audience. Uh huh.

[01:34:47] Member Alison Hicks: So I was... Yeah, if Tony had really hit the ball out of the park, that would have been... Yeah. Um,

[01:34:54] Member Lucas Ramirez: and I, um... I'm familiar with... involvement in the chamber. Maybe I should be, but... Mm hmm. She identified herself as an ambassador, and... they do a fair amount of work. I do see them, um, but I'm... It's not a disqualifying fact. I'm... I guess I'm not certain I'm prepared enough to... critique Jutu's performance, because I haven't personally observed meetings, and I haven't received those complaints, so, um, I probably couldn't support a motion to remove or to not reappoints on. Explicitly removing, but, um, I will understand if that is the majority. Yeah,

[01:35:35] Member Pat Showalter: I'm gonna... I'm gonna move to reappointer. I just think there would be a really serious report.. Okay.

[01:35:41] Member Alison Hicks: Well, to be honest with you, I'm just glad that we got... The committee members that I talked to ask that we get somebody who can deeply engage with this, and who knows what the visual acts committee does. So I think with, I think, with Cliff and Lacey, we've gotten that, and I can go along with whatever the two of you want. I'll second the motion. Okay, I'll those in favor. I think

[01:36:09] Member Lucas Ramirez: it would be fair, though. Sue. Share... Constructive feedback. Right. Okay. We have relationships with her. Okay. We're hearing that maybe you could be a little bit more... Okay. Something like that. Maybe

[01:36:24] Member Pat Showalter: your brother can do that. I can talk. Is there

[01:36:28] Member Lucas Ramirez: anything else?

[01:36:29] Member Pat Showalter: Don, white bread's still alone? Yes. Yeah,

[01:36:31] Member Lucas Ramirez: he was reappointed, what, was that last year? Okay. Yeah. Okay,

[01:36:36] Member Alison Hicks: so, um... let's see, where are we on this now? I'm done. Well, do we have, like, an item 8? Do we have committee members and staff reports? No, nobody has... Hey, um, I have

[01:36:51] Member Lucas Ramirez: one thing. Um... I don't know if this is still the case. So my apologies that this information is dreadfully out of date. But I've heard that we don't always, or we don't, send emails to applicants who are not selected, so they're just kind of... Oh, my God. in the dark.

[01:37:10] Member Pat Showalter: No, we gotta send an application. So I'm curious. They do receive it.

[01:37:13] Member Lucas Ramirez: So is that, is that...? Operational lies? Is that part of a policy or something? Yes, it is. Okay. So when we're

[01:37:19] Member Alison Hicks: good? Yeah. Tomorrow? Well, I could say that the committee has recommended this person to, but I don't... He sent it after the council action. Uh huh. Because you're not appointing anyone tonight. I think it I think it would be... You think we should tell them they've been recommended, not just string them, 'cause I told them that they could leave, and that... Yeah, I could send it out. Yeah,

[01:37:48] Member Pat Showalter: I think we're gonna still... And I'll show you something that is about, really appreciate their stepping... filling out the application and coming to the... that stuff.

[01:38:07] Unknown Speaker: But, yeah, no, no applicant is going without, you know? Okay. That's correct.

[01:38:13] Member Lucas Ramirez: Yeah, that there may be very old information at this point. Or

[01:38:16] Member Alison Hicks: maybe somebody like me who doesn't read their personal email very closely. When

[01:38:21] Member Lucas Ramirez: I had applied for the planning commission in 2012, I did not... Oh, it was you. No, no. No, that was years ago, but I had heard it since. I had heard it since, you know? And so I... I... It's a courtesy, and I'm glad that we're here. Yeah, when

[01:38:38] Member Pat Showalter: I was... I applied to... to, um, planning commission. I guess there was email, but it wasn't that common. And so... E mail hadn't been amended. Does that happen? Which has been admitted. I mean, it was the early '90s, but everybody didn't have personal e mail. Yeah. And, um, so they, they called you. Oh, wow. I remember Jim Cochran called me and said, I'd been appointed, and that was... That's very sweet in a conversation. That was very nice, actually. He's a good guy. Good guy, yeah. I've

[01:39:07] Member Alison Hicks: had two people call me today and say. It's a good guy. No, say. Um, I emailed you and you didn't get back to me. Like, random residence. Okay. So I think I'm gonna adjourn the team. Oh, yeah. That is... Uh... I don't have my... Uh, 7 20. 7 20. Wow.

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